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As a lifelong citizen of the United States, I'm accustomed to hearing that the US is the "Land of the Free" and most patriotic celebrations seem to emphasize freedom as one of the unique qualities of life here. However, all of the American freedoms I'm aware of--freedom of speech, freedom of religion, etc.--seem to be found throughout much of Western civilization. Are there any freedoms that are unique to either the United States or the North American continent?
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As a lifelong citizen of the United States, I'm accustomed to hearing that the US is the "Land of the Free" and most patriotic celebrations seem to emphasize freedom as one of the unique qualities of life here. However, all of the American freedoms I'm aware of--freedom of speech, freedom of religion, etc.--seem to be found throughout much of Western civilization. Are there any freedoms that are unique to either the United States or the North American continent?
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While I disagree that the United States is necessarily the most free country, if such a thing can be objectively measured, nonetheless one important thing to note is that those freedoms you mention are interpreted very differently across nations, such that they're not really the same freedoms. For instance, in France bans on burkas, racist speech, and pro-life speech are viewed at least by the law as compatible with freedom of religion and speech.
– Obie 2.0
8 hours ago
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Several people have been arrested for "hate speech" in Europe. They don't have free speech, they have approved speech and it is simply barbaric. Free speech as we enjoy it in the US is unique.
– acpilot
8 hours ago
5
@acpilot - I wouldn't use quite that language. There's a continuum. There a forms of disapproved speech in the United States as well: fighting words, speech that is judged to pose a clear and present danger, defamation and false advertising.
– Obie 2.0
8 hours ago
1
Right. Immediate, credible threats and outright slander are not considered free speech in the US. But there is a stark difference between a man with a knife saying "I'm going to kill you" and a someone "insulting human dignity" on social media. How is convicting people for mere opinions anything but barbaric? It's inexcusable and is absolutely not anything resembling "free speech."
– acpilot
7 hours ago
2
That has a direct, immediate, negative impact on a specific person. That is nothing like saying something generally unpleasant about immigrants. I stand by my statement. Criminalization of opinions is barbaric.
– acpilot
6 hours ago
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As a lifelong citizen of the United States, I'm accustomed to hearing that the US is the "Land of the Free" and most patriotic celebrations seem to emphasize freedom as one of the unique qualities of life here. However, all of the American freedoms I'm aware of--freedom of speech, freedom of religion, etc.--seem to be found throughout much of Western civilization. Are there any freedoms that are unique to either the United States or the North American continent?
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As a lifelong citizen of the United States, I'm accustomed to hearing that the US is the "Land of the Free" and most patriotic celebrations seem to emphasize freedom as one of the unique qualities of life here. However, all of the American freedoms I'm aware of--freedom of speech, freedom of religion, etc.--seem to be found throughout much of Western civilization. Are there any freedoms that are unique to either the United States or the North American continent?
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While I disagree that the United States is necessarily the most free country, if such a thing can be objectively measured, nonetheless one important thing to note is that those freedoms you mention are interpreted very differently across nations, such that they're not really the same freedoms. For instance, in France bans on burkas, racist speech, and pro-life speech are viewed at least by the law as compatible with freedom of religion and speech.
– Obie 2.0
8 hours ago
7
Several people have been arrested for "hate speech" in Europe. They don't have free speech, they have approved speech and it is simply barbaric. Free speech as we enjoy it in the US is unique.
– acpilot
8 hours ago
5
@acpilot - I wouldn't use quite that language. There's a continuum. There a forms of disapproved speech in the United States as well: fighting words, speech that is judged to pose a clear and present danger, defamation and false advertising.
– Obie 2.0
8 hours ago
1
Right. Immediate, credible threats and outright slander are not considered free speech in the US. But there is a stark difference between a man with a knife saying "I'm going to kill you" and a someone "insulting human dignity" on social media. How is convicting people for mere opinions anything but barbaric? It's inexcusable and is absolutely not anything resembling "free speech."
– acpilot
7 hours ago
2
That has a direct, immediate, negative impact on a specific person. That is nothing like saying something generally unpleasant about immigrants. I stand by my statement. Criminalization of opinions is barbaric.
– acpilot
6 hours ago
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show 10 more comments
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While I disagree that the United States is necessarily the most free country, if such a thing can be objectively measured, nonetheless one important thing to note is that those freedoms you mention are interpreted very differently across nations, such that they're not really the same freedoms. For instance, in France bans on burkas, racist speech, and pro-life speech are viewed at least by the law as compatible with freedom of religion and speech.
– Obie 2.0
8 hours ago
7
Several people have been arrested for "hate speech" in Europe. They don't have free speech, they have approved speech and it is simply barbaric. Free speech as we enjoy it in the US is unique.
– acpilot
8 hours ago
5
@acpilot - I wouldn't use quite that language. There's a continuum. There a forms of disapproved speech in the United States as well: fighting words, speech that is judged to pose a clear and present danger, defamation and false advertising.
– Obie 2.0
8 hours ago
1
Right. Immediate, credible threats and outright slander are not considered free speech in the US. But there is a stark difference between a man with a knife saying "I'm going to kill you" and a someone "insulting human dignity" on social media. How is convicting people for mere opinions anything but barbaric? It's inexcusable and is absolutely not anything resembling "free speech."
– acpilot
7 hours ago
2
That has a direct, immediate, negative impact on a specific person. That is nothing like saying something generally unpleasant about immigrants. I stand by my statement. Criminalization of opinions is barbaric.
– acpilot
6 hours ago
3
3
While I disagree that the United States is necessarily the most free country, if such a thing can be objectively measured, nonetheless one important thing to note is that those freedoms you mention are interpreted very differently across nations, such that they're not really the same freedoms. For instance, in France bans on burkas, racist speech, and pro-life speech are viewed at least by the law as compatible with freedom of religion and speech.
– Obie 2.0
8 hours ago
While I disagree that the United States is necessarily the most free country, if such a thing can be objectively measured, nonetheless one important thing to note is that those freedoms you mention are interpreted very differently across nations, such that they're not really the same freedoms. For instance, in France bans on burkas, racist speech, and pro-life speech are viewed at least by the law as compatible with freedom of religion and speech.
– Obie 2.0
8 hours ago
7
7
Several people have been arrested for "hate speech" in Europe. They don't have free speech, they have approved speech and it is simply barbaric. Free speech as we enjoy it in the US is unique.
– acpilot
8 hours ago
Several people have been arrested for "hate speech" in Europe. They don't have free speech, they have approved speech and it is simply barbaric. Free speech as we enjoy it in the US is unique.
– acpilot
8 hours ago
5
5
@acpilot - I wouldn't use quite that language. There's a continuum. There a forms of disapproved speech in the United States as well: fighting words, speech that is judged to pose a clear and present danger, defamation and false advertising.
– Obie 2.0
8 hours ago
@acpilot - I wouldn't use quite that language. There's a continuum. There a forms of disapproved speech in the United States as well: fighting words, speech that is judged to pose a clear and present danger, defamation and false advertising.
– Obie 2.0
8 hours ago
1
1
Right. Immediate, credible threats and outright slander are not considered free speech in the US. But there is a stark difference between a man with a knife saying "I'm going to kill you" and a someone "insulting human dignity" on social media. How is convicting people for mere opinions anything but barbaric? It's inexcusable and is absolutely not anything resembling "free speech."
– acpilot
7 hours ago
Right. Immediate, credible threats and outright slander are not considered free speech in the US. But there is a stark difference between a man with a knife saying "I'm going to kill you" and a someone "insulting human dignity" on social media. How is convicting people for mere opinions anything but barbaric? It's inexcusable and is absolutely not anything resembling "free speech."
– acpilot
7 hours ago
2
2
That has a direct, immediate, negative impact on a specific person. That is nothing like saying something generally unpleasant about immigrants. I stand by my statement. Criminalization of opinions is barbaric.
– acpilot
6 hours ago
That has a direct, immediate, negative impact on a specific person. That is nothing like saying something generally unpleasant about immigrants. I stand by my statement. Criminalization of opinions is barbaric.
– acpilot
6 hours ago
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The Right to Bear Arms is found in only three nations: the USA, Mexico, and Guatemala.
While other countries allow their citizens to own firearms, they have no constitutional backing if the governments decide they can no longer allow this.
1
For the sake of accuracy, the US Constitution does not grant citizens the right to bear arms. The drafters considered a person's right to bear arms a natural right, granted by God. What the Constitution does is ensure that this right "shall not be infringed". The US Government has no authority to take away this right. It's way outside its jurisdiction.
– Michael_B
7 hours ago
5
@Michael_B - That's a bit of linguistic specificity. Whether or not God grants such rights, the US constitution must also grant them in order for them to have any practical meaning. And the US government most certainly can take away this or any other right, with two thirds of the legislature and the approval of three quarters of the states. This applies to everything from the process of remuneration of politicians in the 27th amendment to the freedom of religion in the First.
– Obie 2.0
6 hours ago
1
Yes, the government has the power to infringe on these rights and attempt to take them away. That would be a sure way to spark a Civil War.
– Michael_B
6 hours ago
1
@Michael_B - You will note, of course, that that is the Declaration of Independence, not the Constitution, let alone the Bill of Rights.
– Obie 2.0
6 hours ago
2
@Michael_B - A civil war against any amendment agreed to by at least three quarters of the population, and quite likely more, would be amusingly one-sided.
– Obie 2.0
6 hours ago
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The Third Amendment to the United States Constitution is a pretty good candidate:
No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without
the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be
prescribed by law.
I imagine this right is effectively in place in many other countries, but without the prominence of being explicitly enumerated in their constitutions.
Great catch. Quartering soldiers has only very rarely been a concern in human history, and the US just happened to be formed in that little sliver of time. I doubt many other countries even considered it!
– Michael W.
2 hours ago
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The Right to Bear Arms is found in only three nations: the USA, Mexico, and Guatemala.
While other countries allow their citizens to own firearms, they have no constitutional backing if the governments decide they can no longer allow this.
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For the sake of accuracy, the US Constitution does not grant citizens the right to bear arms. The drafters considered a person's right to bear arms a natural right, granted by God. What the Constitution does is ensure that this right "shall not be infringed". The US Government has no authority to take away this right. It's way outside its jurisdiction.
– Michael_B
7 hours ago
5
@Michael_B - That's a bit of linguistic specificity. Whether or not God grants such rights, the US constitution must also grant them in order for them to have any practical meaning. And the US government most certainly can take away this or any other right, with two thirds of the legislature and the approval of three quarters of the states. This applies to everything from the process of remuneration of politicians in the 27th amendment to the freedom of religion in the First.
– Obie 2.0
6 hours ago
1
Yes, the government has the power to infringe on these rights and attempt to take them away. That would be a sure way to spark a Civil War.
– Michael_B
6 hours ago
1
@Michael_B - You will note, of course, that that is the Declaration of Independence, not the Constitution, let alone the Bill of Rights.
– Obie 2.0
6 hours ago
2
@Michael_B - A civil war against any amendment agreed to by at least three quarters of the population, and quite likely more, would be amusingly one-sided.
– Obie 2.0
6 hours ago
|
show 5 more comments
The Right to Bear Arms is found in only three nations: the USA, Mexico, and Guatemala.
While other countries allow their citizens to own firearms, they have no constitutional backing if the governments decide they can no longer allow this.
1
For the sake of accuracy, the US Constitution does not grant citizens the right to bear arms. The drafters considered a person's right to bear arms a natural right, granted by God. What the Constitution does is ensure that this right "shall not be infringed". The US Government has no authority to take away this right. It's way outside its jurisdiction.
– Michael_B
7 hours ago
5
@Michael_B - That's a bit of linguistic specificity. Whether or not God grants such rights, the US constitution must also grant them in order for them to have any practical meaning. And the US government most certainly can take away this or any other right, with two thirds of the legislature and the approval of three quarters of the states. This applies to everything from the process of remuneration of politicians in the 27th amendment to the freedom of religion in the First.
– Obie 2.0
6 hours ago
1
Yes, the government has the power to infringe on these rights and attempt to take them away. That would be a sure way to spark a Civil War.
– Michael_B
6 hours ago
1
@Michael_B - You will note, of course, that that is the Declaration of Independence, not the Constitution, let alone the Bill of Rights.
– Obie 2.0
6 hours ago
2
@Michael_B - A civil war against any amendment agreed to by at least three quarters of the population, and quite likely more, would be amusingly one-sided.
– Obie 2.0
6 hours ago
|
show 5 more comments
The Right to Bear Arms is found in only three nations: the USA, Mexico, and Guatemala.
While other countries allow their citizens to own firearms, they have no constitutional backing if the governments decide they can no longer allow this.
The Right to Bear Arms is found in only three nations: the USA, Mexico, and Guatemala.
While other countries allow their citizens to own firearms, they have no constitutional backing if the governments decide they can no longer allow this.
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For the sake of accuracy, the US Constitution does not grant citizens the right to bear arms. The drafters considered a person's right to bear arms a natural right, granted by God. What the Constitution does is ensure that this right "shall not be infringed". The US Government has no authority to take away this right. It's way outside its jurisdiction.
– Michael_B
7 hours ago
5
@Michael_B - That's a bit of linguistic specificity. Whether or not God grants such rights, the US constitution must also grant them in order for them to have any practical meaning. And the US government most certainly can take away this or any other right, with two thirds of the legislature and the approval of three quarters of the states. This applies to everything from the process of remuneration of politicians in the 27th amendment to the freedom of religion in the First.
– Obie 2.0
6 hours ago
1
Yes, the government has the power to infringe on these rights and attempt to take them away. That would be a sure way to spark a Civil War.
– Michael_B
6 hours ago
1
@Michael_B - You will note, of course, that that is the Declaration of Independence, not the Constitution, let alone the Bill of Rights.
– Obie 2.0
6 hours ago
2
@Michael_B - A civil war against any amendment agreed to by at least three quarters of the population, and quite likely more, would be amusingly one-sided.
– Obie 2.0
6 hours ago
|
show 5 more comments
1
For the sake of accuracy, the US Constitution does not grant citizens the right to bear arms. The drafters considered a person's right to bear arms a natural right, granted by God. What the Constitution does is ensure that this right "shall not be infringed". The US Government has no authority to take away this right. It's way outside its jurisdiction.
– Michael_B
7 hours ago
5
@Michael_B - That's a bit of linguistic specificity. Whether or not God grants such rights, the US constitution must also grant them in order for them to have any practical meaning. And the US government most certainly can take away this or any other right, with two thirds of the legislature and the approval of three quarters of the states. This applies to everything from the process of remuneration of politicians in the 27th amendment to the freedom of religion in the First.
– Obie 2.0
6 hours ago
1
Yes, the government has the power to infringe on these rights and attempt to take them away. That would be a sure way to spark a Civil War.
– Michael_B
6 hours ago
1
@Michael_B - You will note, of course, that that is the Declaration of Independence, not the Constitution, let alone the Bill of Rights.
– Obie 2.0
6 hours ago
2
@Michael_B - A civil war against any amendment agreed to by at least three quarters of the population, and quite likely more, would be amusingly one-sided.
– Obie 2.0
6 hours ago
1
1
For the sake of accuracy, the US Constitution does not grant citizens the right to bear arms. The drafters considered a person's right to bear arms a natural right, granted by God. What the Constitution does is ensure that this right "shall not be infringed". The US Government has no authority to take away this right. It's way outside its jurisdiction.
– Michael_B
7 hours ago
For the sake of accuracy, the US Constitution does not grant citizens the right to bear arms. The drafters considered a person's right to bear arms a natural right, granted by God. What the Constitution does is ensure that this right "shall not be infringed". The US Government has no authority to take away this right. It's way outside its jurisdiction.
– Michael_B
7 hours ago
5
5
@Michael_B - That's a bit of linguistic specificity. Whether or not God grants such rights, the US constitution must also grant them in order for them to have any practical meaning. And the US government most certainly can take away this or any other right, with two thirds of the legislature and the approval of three quarters of the states. This applies to everything from the process of remuneration of politicians in the 27th amendment to the freedom of religion in the First.
– Obie 2.0
6 hours ago
@Michael_B - That's a bit of linguistic specificity. Whether or not God grants such rights, the US constitution must also grant them in order for them to have any practical meaning. And the US government most certainly can take away this or any other right, with two thirds of the legislature and the approval of three quarters of the states. This applies to everything from the process of remuneration of politicians in the 27th amendment to the freedom of religion in the First.
– Obie 2.0
6 hours ago
1
1
Yes, the government has the power to infringe on these rights and attempt to take them away. That would be a sure way to spark a Civil War.
– Michael_B
6 hours ago
Yes, the government has the power to infringe on these rights and attempt to take them away. That would be a sure way to spark a Civil War.
– Michael_B
6 hours ago
1
1
@Michael_B - You will note, of course, that that is the Declaration of Independence, not the Constitution, let alone the Bill of Rights.
– Obie 2.0
6 hours ago
@Michael_B - You will note, of course, that that is the Declaration of Independence, not the Constitution, let alone the Bill of Rights.
– Obie 2.0
6 hours ago
2
2
@Michael_B - A civil war against any amendment agreed to by at least three quarters of the population, and quite likely more, would be amusingly one-sided.
– Obie 2.0
6 hours ago
@Michael_B - A civil war against any amendment agreed to by at least three quarters of the population, and quite likely more, would be amusingly one-sided.
– Obie 2.0
6 hours ago
|
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The Third Amendment to the United States Constitution is a pretty good candidate:
No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without
the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be
prescribed by law.
I imagine this right is effectively in place in many other countries, but without the prominence of being explicitly enumerated in their constitutions.
Great catch. Quartering soldiers has only very rarely been a concern in human history, and the US just happened to be formed in that little sliver of time. I doubt many other countries even considered it!
– Michael W.
2 hours ago
add a comment |
The Third Amendment to the United States Constitution is a pretty good candidate:
No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without
the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be
prescribed by law.
I imagine this right is effectively in place in many other countries, but without the prominence of being explicitly enumerated in their constitutions.
Great catch. Quartering soldiers has only very rarely been a concern in human history, and the US just happened to be formed in that little sliver of time. I doubt many other countries even considered it!
– Michael W.
2 hours ago
add a comment |
The Third Amendment to the United States Constitution is a pretty good candidate:
No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without
the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be
prescribed by law.
I imagine this right is effectively in place in many other countries, but without the prominence of being explicitly enumerated in their constitutions.
The Third Amendment to the United States Constitution is a pretty good candidate:
No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without
the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be
prescribed by law.
I imagine this right is effectively in place in many other countries, but without the prominence of being explicitly enumerated in their constitutions.
answered 7 hours ago
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Great catch. Quartering soldiers has only very rarely been a concern in human history, and the US just happened to be formed in that little sliver of time. I doubt many other countries even considered it!
– Michael W.
2 hours ago
add a comment |
Great catch. Quartering soldiers has only very rarely been a concern in human history, and the US just happened to be formed in that little sliver of time. I doubt many other countries even considered it!
– Michael W.
2 hours ago
Great catch. Quartering soldiers has only very rarely been a concern in human history, and the US just happened to be formed in that little sliver of time. I doubt many other countries even considered it!
– Michael W.
2 hours ago
Great catch. Quartering soldiers has only very rarely been a concern in human history, and the US just happened to be formed in that little sliver of time. I doubt many other countries even considered it!
– Michael W.
2 hours ago
add a comment |
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While I disagree that the United States is necessarily the most free country, if such a thing can be objectively measured, nonetheless one important thing to note is that those freedoms you mention are interpreted very differently across nations, such that they're not really the same freedoms. For instance, in France bans on burkas, racist speech, and pro-life speech are viewed at least by the law as compatible with freedom of religion and speech.
– Obie 2.0
8 hours ago
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Several people have been arrested for "hate speech" in Europe. They don't have free speech, they have approved speech and it is simply barbaric. Free speech as we enjoy it in the US is unique.
– acpilot
8 hours ago
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@acpilot - I wouldn't use quite that language. There's a continuum. There a forms of disapproved speech in the United States as well: fighting words, speech that is judged to pose a clear and present danger, defamation and false advertising.
– Obie 2.0
8 hours ago
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Right. Immediate, credible threats and outright slander are not considered free speech in the US. But there is a stark difference between a man with a knife saying "I'm going to kill you" and a someone "insulting human dignity" on social media. How is convicting people for mere opinions anything but barbaric? It's inexcusable and is absolutely not anything resembling "free speech."
– acpilot
7 hours ago
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That has a direct, immediate, negative impact on a specific person. That is nothing like saying something generally unpleasant about immigrants. I stand by my statement. Criminalization of opinions is barbaric.
– acpilot
6 hours ago