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Suppose we used SCP-261, the vending machine that produces anything, and ask for a cup of neutron star. The machine instantaneously produces this.
Suppose also that the vending machine is located at a normal office building, not some underground lair or the like.
What effect would this have, and how much damage would it do? Would it kill everyone in the building? Destroy the Earth? Surprisingly very little effect?
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Suppose we used SCP-261, the vending machine that produces anything, and ask for a cup of neutron star. The machine instantaneously produces this.
Suppose also that the vending machine is located at a normal office building, not some underground lair or the like.
What effect would this have, and how much damage would it do? Would it kill everyone in the building? Destroy the Earth? Surprisingly very little effect?
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Where would this vending machine get all that matter, because if it already had that (or the energy equivalent) it would be a chunk of a neutron star itself ? People, as they say, would notice (very, very briefly, before they were wiped out by a globally catastrophic explosion).
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@StephenG - many SCP objects can do things that aren't physically possible (including conjuring mass from other locations).
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Asked for a cup of dark matter but nothing happens, wonder if it is spoilt
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Suppose we used SCP-261, the vending machine that produces anything, and ask for a cup of neutron star. The machine instantaneously produces this.
Suppose also that the vending machine is located at a normal office building, not some underground lair or the like.
What effect would this have, and how much damage would it do? Would it kill everyone in the building? Destroy the Earth? Surprisingly very little effect?
stars astrophysics
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Suppose we used SCP-261, the vending machine that produces anything, and ask for a cup of neutron star. The machine instantaneously produces this.
Suppose also that the vending machine is located at a normal office building, not some underground lair or the like.
What effect would this have, and how much damage would it do? Would it kill everyone in the building? Destroy the Earth? Surprisingly very little effect?
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Where would this vending machine get all that matter, because if it already had that (or the energy equivalent) it would be a chunk of a neutron star itself ? People, as they say, would notice (very, very briefly, before they were wiped out by a globally catastrophic explosion).
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@StephenG - many SCP objects can do things that aren't physically possible (including conjuring mass from other locations).
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– jdunlop
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Asked for a cup of dark matter but nothing happens, wonder if it is spoilt
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Where would this vending machine get all that matter, because if it already had that (or the energy equivalent) it would be a chunk of a neutron star itself ? People, as they say, would notice (very, very briefly, before they were wiped out by a globally catastrophic explosion).
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– StephenG
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@StephenG - many SCP objects can do things that aren't physically possible (including conjuring mass from other locations).
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– jdunlop
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Asked for a cup of dark matter but nothing happens, wonder if it is spoilt
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Where would this vending machine get all that matter, because if it already had that (or the energy equivalent) it would be a chunk of a neutron star itself ? People, as they say, would notice (very, very briefly, before they were wiped out by a globally catastrophic explosion).
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– StephenG
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Where would this vending machine get all that matter, because if it already had that (or the energy equivalent) it would be a chunk of a neutron star itself ? People, as they say, would notice (very, very briefly, before they were wiped out by a globally catastrophic explosion).
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– StephenG
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@StephenG - many SCP objects can do things that aren't physically possible (including conjuring mass from other locations).
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@StephenG - many SCP objects can do things that aren't physically possible (including conjuring mass from other locations).
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Asked for a cup of dark matter but nothing happens, wonder if it is spoilt
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The answer isn't entirely clear what the final state of the Neutron Star matter would be, but it would most definitely completely destroy the "Totally Normal Office Building", and most of the country... and probably most life on Earth.
See this related question: https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/10052/what-would-happen-to-a-teaspoon-of-neutron-star-material-if-released-on-earth
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+1, an answer to the linked question estimated energy release several orders of magnitude higher than Chicxulub impact (an that question was asking only about a teaspoon of "neutronium").
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"Destroy.. and probably most life on Earth" is such a comically conservative "probably" considering the link says the explosion is 3500 times bigger than the one that killed the dinosaurs. Throw in radiation? You're gonna feel this one on Pluto...
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Be fair, @Muuski - you're not going to feel it on Pluto. There are ~50 teaspoons in a cup, so it'd just be 7.5 x 10^27 J, or the emissions of the sun for about 20 seconds released over a shorter timescale. Depending on Earth's position relative to Pluto in the solar system, it might not even be detectable.
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That said, there definitely won't be much left of Earth.
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@jdunlop that's still much less that Theia impact, so Earth as a planet would survive.
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Neutron star matter weighs about a mountain per teaspoonful.
So much that if I had a piece of it here and let it go I could hardly prevent it from falling. It would effortlessly pass through the Earth like a knife through warm butter. It would carve a hole for itself completely through the Earth emerging out the other side perhaps in China. The people there might be walking along when a tiny lump of neutron star matter comes booming out of the ground and then falls back again.
The incident might make an agreeable break in the routine of the day.
The neutron star matter, pulled back by the Earth's gravity would plunge again through the Earth eventually punching hundreds of thousands of holes before friction with the interior of our planet stopped the motion.
By the time it's at rest at the center of the Earth the inside of our world would look a little bit like Swiss cheese.
– Carl Sagan, Cosmos : A Personal Voyage, s01e09, The Lives of the Stars
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A quote from Sagan's "Cosmos" is a pretty good bet to get an upvote from me. :)
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– StephenG
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-1 I believe this is incorrect. If you "let it go", the lack of sufficient gravity holding the mass together would cause it to explosively expand.
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Yes, the quote assumes that the piece of matter is solid and stays so. This is not what would actually happen, Sagan was just making a point about the density.
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According to the answers to the Physics question linked by abestrange this would result in the Earth being hit by 250 million tonnes of neutrons travelling at .1c+. I feel confident this would turn everything above horizon radioactive including significant portion of the ground beneath. Neutron scattering would extend this beyond the horizon too.
Bulk of the energy would then transform into heat creating a huge fire storm that lifts much of the irradiated material into stratosphere. Gravity will then bring it down "somewhere". Normally you'd have to start thinking about wind patterns and the amount of debris but in this case I think we can just assume the entire surface of the Earth comes covered by radioactive crap.
Which is a good thing because once it is down it is no longer stopping sunlight.
Just noticed that the amount in this question is much larger than the one in the physics question but frankly it doesn't really matter, does it? Only real change is that the extra energy removes all need you might have had to worry about the fallout coverage.
So "everybody dies"? Although people who still have nuclear fallout shelters and are far enough will have time to take cover. Not sure how survivable that actually is. I think they were mostly intended to protect people when the city they are in gets blasted not to support populations when the entire surface is irradiated.
EDIT: I guess I must reconsider this. On second thought the explosion would be powerful enough to cause a shock wave that causes powerful earth quakes world wide. And the ionizing radiation would cause an EMP. So evacuation to shelters probably would not be possible. People would probably just have time to get confused about what is going on before everything starts shaking and collapsing.
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If you google for "density of neutron star in kg/cm3, you get an example of one that reaches 7 x 1014 grams per cc. A 200 ml cup would have 1.4 x 1014 kilograms of mass.
Let me rephrase without exponentiation. It would have a mass of 140,000,000,000,000 kilograms.
For comparison, the mass of the Earth is close to 6 x 1024 kg. That is 10 billion times more massive than your cup, but at a density that is closer to 5.5 grams per cc.
Anyway, back to the office. The cup will fall from the machine and rip a hole as it sinks to the core of the Earth, displacing crust and exposing a bit of mantle in the way. The people and things closer to it will be torn apart and pulled along it due to its gravity - it may be a ten-billionth as massive as the Earth but you are 6,400 km closer to its center of mass.
Throughout the Earth, powerful tectonic shockwaves cross the planet a couple or more times. The Planet will wobble a bit as its center of gravity readjusts. Earth will be slightly more massive, so its gravity will be stronger - but not enough for us to perceive.
The only lasting effect noticeable by us is that the orbital period of the Moon will be shortened by a few hours. Oh, and the mega crater at wherever the office with the vending machine was located.
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I was skeptical that people nearby would "feel" the gravity of the cup's contents - boy was I wrong. Some back of the envelope says that for an 80kg human 30m away the force towards the cup would be equal to the downward force due to the Earth's gravity. Seems like apart from any secondary effects most of the people in the building and surrounding area are having a very bad day. And I thought the guy microwaving fish in the break room was bad...
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I don't have the full answer you're looking for - exactly how much damage will be done - but that is definitely going to explode, very spectacularly. And the vapour that used to be your coffee cup will be radioactive.
You suddenly have more stuff in your cup than should reasonably exist in your whole building. The pressure will, eventually, equalise. There will be a shockwave while that works itself out.
Free neutrons will not exist for more than a few minutes at Earth pressure. They would decay, releasing a lot of energy. Unless they collide with an atom first, which will tend to make the atom unstable (ie radioactive). There are more free neutrons in that cup than there are atoms in your office, so this isn't going to be pleasant.
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The answer isn't entirely clear what the final state of the Neutron Star matter would be, but it would most definitely completely destroy the "Totally Normal Office Building", and most of the country... and probably most life on Earth.
See this related question: https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/10052/what-would-happen-to-a-teaspoon-of-neutron-star-material-if-released-on-earth
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+1, an answer to the linked question estimated energy release several orders of magnitude higher than Chicxulub impact (an that question was asking only about a teaspoon of "neutronium").
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– Alexander
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"Destroy.. and probably most life on Earth" is such a comically conservative "probably" considering the link says the explosion is 3500 times bigger than the one that killed the dinosaurs. Throw in radiation? You're gonna feel this one on Pluto...
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Be fair, @Muuski - you're not going to feel it on Pluto. There are ~50 teaspoons in a cup, so it'd just be 7.5 x 10^27 J, or the emissions of the sun for about 20 seconds released over a shorter timescale. Depending on Earth's position relative to Pluto in the solar system, it might not even be detectable.
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That said, there definitely won't be much left of Earth.
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@jdunlop that's still much less that Theia impact, so Earth as a planet would survive.
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The answer isn't entirely clear what the final state of the Neutron Star matter would be, but it would most definitely completely destroy the "Totally Normal Office Building", and most of the country... and probably most life on Earth.
See this related question: https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/10052/what-would-happen-to-a-teaspoon-of-neutron-star-material-if-released-on-earth
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+1, an answer to the linked question estimated energy release several orders of magnitude higher than Chicxulub impact (an that question was asking only about a teaspoon of "neutronium").
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– Alexander
7 hours ago
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"Destroy.. and probably most life on Earth" is such a comically conservative "probably" considering the link says the explosion is 3500 times bigger than the one that killed the dinosaurs. Throw in radiation? You're gonna feel this one on Pluto...
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– Muuski
7 hours ago
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Be fair, @Muuski - you're not going to feel it on Pluto. There are ~50 teaspoons in a cup, so it'd just be 7.5 x 10^27 J, or the emissions of the sun for about 20 seconds released over a shorter timescale. Depending on Earth's position relative to Pluto in the solar system, it might not even be detectable.
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– jdunlop
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That said, there definitely won't be much left of Earth.
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– jdunlop
6 hours ago
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@jdunlop that's still much less that Theia impact, so Earth as a planet would survive.
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– Alexander
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The answer isn't entirely clear what the final state of the Neutron Star matter would be, but it would most definitely completely destroy the "Totally Normal Office Building", and most of the country... and probably most life on Earth.
See this related question: https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/10052/what-would-happen-to-a-teaspoon-of-neutron-star-material-if-released-on-earth
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The answer isn't entirely clear what the final state of the Neutron Star matter would be, but it would most definitely completely destroy the "Totally Normal Office Building", and most of the country... and probably most life on Earth.
See this related question: https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/10052/what-would-happen-to-a-teaspoon-of-neutron-star-material-if-released-on-earth
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+1, an answer to the linked question estimated energy release several orders of magnitude higher than Chicxulub impact (an that question was asking only about a teaspoon of "neutronium").
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– Alexander
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"Destroy.. and probably most life on Earth" is such a comically conservative "probably" considering the link says the explosion is 3500 times bigger than the one that killed the dinosaurs. Throw in radiation? You're gonna feel this one on Pluto...
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– Muuski
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Be fair, @Muuski - you're not going to feel it on Pluto. There are ~50 teaspoons in a cup, so it'd just be 7.5 x 10^27 J, or the emissions of the sun for about 20 seconds released over a shorter timescale. Depending on Earth's position relative to Pluto in the solar system, it might not even be detectable.
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– jdunlop
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That said, there definitely won't be much left of Earth.
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– jdunlop
6 hours ago
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@jdunlop that's still much less that Theia impact, so Earth as a planet would survive.
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– Alexander
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+1, an answer to the linked question estimated energy release several orders of magnitude higher than Chicxulub impact (an that question was asking only about a teaspoon of "neutronium").
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– Alexander
7 hours ago
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"Destroy.. and probably most life on Earth" is such a comically conservative "probably" considering the link says the explosion is 3500 times bigger than the one that killed the dinosaurs. Throw in radiation? You're gonna feel this one on Pluto...
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– Muuski
7 hours ago
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Be fair, @Muuski - you're not going to feel it on Pluto. There are ~50 teaspoons in a cup, so it'd just be 7.5 x 10^27 J, or the emissions of the sun for about 20 seconds released over a shorter timescale. Depending on Earth's position relative to Pluto in the solar system, it might not even be detectable.
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– jdunlop
6 hours ago
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That said, there definitely won't be much left of Earth.
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– jdunlop
6 hours ago
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@jdunlop that's still much less that Theia impact, so Earth as a planet would survive.
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– Alexander
6 hours ago
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+1, an answer to the linked question estimated energy release several orders of magnitude higher than Chicxulub impact (an that question was asking only about a teaspoon of "neutronium").
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– Alexander
7 hours ago
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+1, an answer to the linked question estimated energy release several orders of magnitude higher than Chicxulub impact (an that question was asking only about a teaspoon of "neutronium").
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– Alexander
7 hours ago
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"Destroy.. and probably most life on Earth" is such a comically conservative "probably" considering the link says the explosion is 3500 times bigger than the one that killed the dinosaurs. Throw in radiation? You're gonna feel this one on Pluto...
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– Muuski
7 hours ago
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"Destroy.. and probably most life on Earth" is such a comically conservative "probably" considering the link says the explosion is 3500 times bigger than the one that killed the dinosaurs. Throw in radiation? You're gonna feel this one on Pluto...
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– Muuski
7 hours ago
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Be fair, @Muuski - you're not going to feel it on Pluto. There are ~50 teaspoons in a cup, so it'd just be 7.5 x 10^27 J, or the emissions of the sun for about 20 seconds released over a shorter timescale. Depending on Earth's position relative to Pluto in the solar system, it might not even be detectable.
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– jdunlop
6 hours ago
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Be fair, @Muuski - you're not going to feel it on Pluto. There are ~50 teaspoons in a cup, so it'd just be 7.5 x 10^27 J, or the emissions of the sun for about 20 seconds released over a shorter timescale. Depending on Earth's position relative to Pluto in the solar system, it might not even be detectable.
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– jdunlop
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That said, there definitely won't be much left of Earth.
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– jdunlop
6 hours ago
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That said, there definitely won't be much left of Earth.
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@jdunlop that's still much less that Theia impact, so Earth as a planet would survive.
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– Alexander
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@jdunlop that's still much less that Theia impact, so Earth as a planet would survive.
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Neutron star matter weighs about a mountain per teaspoonful.
So much that if I had a piece of it here and let it go I could hardly prevent it from falling. It would effortlessly pass through the Earth like a knife through warm butter. It would carve a hole for itself completely through the Earth emerging out the other side perhaps in China. The people there might be walking along when a tiny lump of neutron star matter comes booming out of the ground and then falls back again.
The incident might make an agreeable break in the routine of the day.
The neutron star matter, pulled back by the Earth's gravity would plunge again through the Earth eventually punching hundreds of thousands of holes before friction with the interior of our planet stopped the motion.
By the time it's at rest at the center of the Earth the inside of our world would look a little bit like Swiss cheese.
– Carl Sagan, Cosmos : A Personal Voyage, s01e09, The Lives of the Stars
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A quote from Sagan's "Cosmos" is a pretty good bet to get an upvote from me. :)
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– StephenG
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-1 I believe this is incorrect. If you "let it go", the lack of sufficient gravity holding the mass together would cause it to explosively expand.
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Yes, the quote assumes that the piece of matter is solid and stays so. This is not what would actually happen, Sagan was just making a point about the density.
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– Ville Niemi
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Neutron star matter weighs about a mountain per teaspoonful.
So much that if I had a piece of it here and let it go I could hardly prevent it from falling. It would effortlessly pass through the Earth like a knife through warm butter. It would carve a hole for itself completely through the Earth emerging out the other side perhaps in China. The people there might be walking along when a tiny lump of neutron star matter comes booming out of the ground and then falls back again.
The incident might make an agreeable break in the routine of the day.
The neutron star matter, pulled back by the Earth's gravity would plunge again through the Earth eventually punching hundreds of thousands of holes before friction with the interior of our planet stopped the motion.
By the time it's at rest at the center of the Earth the inside of our world would look a little bit like Swiss cheese.
– Carl Sagan, Cosmos : A Personal Voyage, s01e09, The Lives of the Stars
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A quote from Sagan's "Cosmos" is a pretty good bet to get an upvote from me. :)
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– StephenG
4 hours ago
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-1 I believe this is incorrect. If you "let it go", the lack of sufficient gravity holding the mass together would cause it to explosively expand.
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– forest
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Yes, the quote assumes that the piece of matter is solid and stays so. This is not what would actually happen, Sagan was just making a point about the density.
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– Ville Niemi
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Neutron star matter weighs about a mountain per teaspoonful.
So much that if I had a piece of it here and let it go I could hardly prevent it from falling. It would effortlessly pass through the Earth like a knife through warm butter. It would carve a hole for itself completely through the Earth emerging out the other side perhaps in China. The people there might be walking along when a tiny lump of neutron star matter comes booming out of the ground and then falls back again.
The incident might make an agreeable break in the routine of the day.
The neutron star matter, pulled back by the Earth's gravity would plunge again through the Earth eventually punching hundreds of thousands of holes before friction with the interior of our planet stopped the motion.
By the time it's at rest at the center of the Earth the inside of our world would look a little bit like Swiss cheese.
– Carl Sagan, Cosmos : A Personal Voyage, s01e09, The Lives of the Stars
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Neutron star matter weighs about a mountain per teaspoonful.
So much that if I had a piece of it here and let it go I could hardly prevent it from falling. It would effortlessly pass through the Earth like a knife through warm butter. It would carve a hole for itself completely through the Earth emerging out the other side perhaps in China. The people there might be walking along when a tiny lump of neutron star matter comes booming out of the ground and then falls back again.
The incident might make an agreeable break in the routine of the day.
The neutron star matter, pulled back by the Earth's gravity would plunge again through the Earth eventually punching hundreds of thousands of holes before friction with the interior of our planet stopped the motion.
By the time it's at rest at the center of the Earth the inside of our world would look a little bit like Swiss cheese.
– Carl Sagan, Cosmos : A Personal Voyage, s01e09, The Lives of the Stars
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A quote from Sagan's "Cosmos" is a pretty good bet to get an upvote from me. :)
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– StephenG
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-1 I believe this is incorrect. If you "let it go", the lack of sufficient gravity holding the mass together would cause it to explosively expand.
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– forest
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Yes, the quote assumes that the piece of matter is solid and stays so. This is not what would actually happen, Sagan was just making a point about the density.
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– Ville Niemi
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A quote from Sagan's "Cosmos" is a pretty good bet to get an upvote from me. :)
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– StephenG
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-1 I believe this is incorrect. If you "let it go", the lack of sufficient gravity holding the mass together would cause it to explosively expand.
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– forest
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Yes, the quote assumes that the piece of matter is solid and stays so. This is not what would actually happen, Sagan was just making a point about the density.
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– Ville Niemi
35 mins ago
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A quote from Sagan's "Cosmos" is a pretty good bet to get an upvote from me. :)
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– StephenG
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A quote from Sagan's "Cosmos" is a pretty good bet to get an upvote from me. :)
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– StephenG
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-1 I believe this is incorrect. If you "let it go", the lack of sufficient gravity holding the mass together would cause it to explosively expand.
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– forest
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-1 I believe this is incorrect. If you "let it go", the lack of sufficient gravity holding the mass together would cause it to explosively expand.
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– forest
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Yes, the quote assumes that the piece of matter is solid and stays so. This is not what would actually happen, Sagan was just making a point about the density.
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– Ville Niemi
35 mins ago
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Yes, the quote assumes that the piece of matter is solid and stays so. This is not what would actually happen, Sagan was just making a point about the density.
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According to the answers to the Physics question linked by abestrange this would result in the Earth being hit by 250 million tonnes of neutrons travelling at .1c+. I feel confident this would turn everything above horizon radioactive including significant portion of the ground beneath. Neutron scattering would extend this beyond the horizon too.
Bulk of the energy would then transform into heat creating a huge fire storm that lifts much of the irradiated material into stratosphere. Gravity will then bring it down "somewhere". Normally you'd have to start thinking about wind patterns and the amount of debris but in this case I think we can just assume the entire surface of the Earth comes covered by radioactive crap.
Which is a good thing because once it is down it is no longer stopping sunlight.
Just noticed that the amount in this question is much larger than the one in the physics question but frankly it doesn't really matter, does it? Only real change is that the extra energy removes all need you might have had to worry about the fallout coverage.
So "everybody dies"? Although people who still have nuclear fallout shelters and are far enough will have time to take cover. Not sure how survivable that actually is. I think they were mostly intended to protect people when the city they are in gets blasted not to support populations when the entire surface is irradiated.
EDIT: I guess I must reconsider this. On second thought the explosion would be powerful enough to cause a shock wave that causes powerful earth quakes world wide. And the ionizing radiation would cause an EMP. So evacuation to shelters probably would not be possible. People would probably just have time to get confused about what is going on before everything starts shaking and collapsing.
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According to the answers to the Physics question linked by abestrange this would result in the Earth being hit by 250 million tonnes of neutrons travelling at .1c+. I feel confident this would turn everything above horizon radioactive including significant portion of the ground beneath. Neutron scattering would extend this beyond the horizon too.
Bulk of the energy would then transform into heat creating a huge fire storm that lifts much of the irradiated material into stratosphere. Gravity will then bring it down "somewhere". Normally you'd have to start thinking about wind patterns and the amount of debris but in this case I think we can just assume the entire surface of the Earth comes covered by radioactive crap.
Which is a good thing because once it is down it is no longer stopping sunlight.
Just noticed that the amount in this question is much larger than the one in the physics question but frankly it doesn't really matter, does it? Only real change is that the extra energy removes all need you might have had to worry about the fallout coverage.
So "everybody dies"? Although people who still have nuclear fallout shelters and are far enough will have time to take cover. Not sure how survivable that actually is. I think they were mostly intended to protect people when the city they are in gets blasted not to support populations when the entire surface is irradiated.
EDIT: I guess I must reconsider this. On second thought the explosion would be powerful enough to cause a shock wave that causes powerful earth quakes world wide. And the ionizing radiation would cause an EMP. So evacuation to shelters probably would not be possible. People would probably just have time to get confused about what is going on before everything starts shaking and collapsing.
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According to the answers to the Physics question linked by abestrange this would result in the Earth being hit by 250 million tonnes of neutrons travelling at .1c+. I feel confident this would turn everything above horizon radioactive including significant portion of the ground beneath. Neutron scattering would extend this beyond the horizon too.
Bulk of the energy would then transform into heat creating a huge fire storm that lifts much of the irradiated material into stratosphere. Gravity will then bring it down "somewhere". Normally you'd have to start thinking about wind patterns and the amount of debris but in this case I think we can just assume the entire surface of the Earth comes covered by radioactive crap.
Which is a good thing because once it is down it is no longer stopping sunlight.
Just noticed that the amount in this question is much larger than the one in the physics question but frankly it doesn't really matter, does it? Only real change is that the extra energy removes all need you might have had to worry about the fallout coverage.
So "everybody dies"? Although people who still have nuclear fallout shelters and are far enough will have time to take cover. Not sure how survivable that actually is. I think they were mostly intended to protect people when the city they are in gets blasted not to support populations when the entire surface is irradiated.
EDIT: I guess I must reconsider this. On second thought the explosion would be powerful enough to cause a shock wave that causes powerful earth quakes world wide. And the ionizing radiation would cause an EMP. So evacuation to shelters probably would not be possible. People would probably just have time to get confused about what is going on before everything starts shaking and collapsing.
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According to the answers to the Physics question linked by abestrange this would result in the Earth being hit by 250 million tonnes of neutrons travelling at .1c+. I feel confident this would turn everything above horizon radioactive including significant portion of the ground beneath. Neutron scattering would extend this beyond the horizon too.
Bulk of the energy would then transform into heat creating a huge fire storm that lifts much of the irradiated material into stratosphere. Gravity will then bring it down "somewhere". Normally you'd have to start thinking about wind patterns and the amount of debris but in this case I think we can just assume the entire surface of the Earth comes covered by radioactive crap.
Which is a good thing because once it is down it is no longer stopping sunlight.
Just noticed that the amount in this question is much larger than the one in the physics question but frankly it doesn't really matter, does it? Only real change is that the extra energy removes all need you might have had to worry about the fallout coverage.
So "everybody dies"? Although people who still have nuclear fallout shelters and are far enough will have time to take cover. Not sure how survivable that actually is. I think they were mostly intended to protect people when the city they are in gets blasted not to support populations when the entire surface is irradiated.
EDIT: I guess I must reconsider this. On second thought the explosion would be powerful enough to cause a shock wave that causes powerful earth quakes world wide. And the ionizing radiation would cause an EMP. So evacuation to shelters probably would not be possible. People would probably just have time to get confused about what is going on before everything starts shaking and collapsing.
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If you google for "density of neutron star in kg/cm3, you get an example of one that reaches 7 x 1014 grams per cc. A 200 ml cup would have 1.4 x 1014 kilograms of mass.
Let me rephrase without exponentiation. It would have a mass of 140,000,000,000,000 kilograms.
For comparison, the mass of the Earth is close to 6 x 1024 kg. That is 10 billion times more massive than your cup, but at a density that is closer to 5.5 grams per cc.
Anyway, back to the office. The cup will fall from the machine and rip a hole as it sinks to the core of the Earth, displacing crust and exposing a bit of mantle in the way. The people and things closer to it will be torn apart and pulled along it due to its gravity - it may be a ten-billionth as massive as the Earth but you are 6,400 km closer to its center of mass.
Throughout the Earth, powerful tectonic shockwaves cross the planet a couple or more times. The Planet will wobble a bit as its center of gravity readjusts. Earth will be slightly more massive, so its gravity will be stronger - but not enough for us to perceive.
The only lasting effect noticeable by us is that the orbital period of the Moon will be shortened by a few hours. Oh, and the mega crater at wherever the office with the vending machine was located.
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I was skeptical that people nearby would "feel" the gravity of the cup's contents - boy was I wrong. Some back of the envelope says that for an 80kg human 30m away the force towards the cup would be equal to the downward force due to the Earth's gravity. Seems like apart from any secondary effects most of the people in the building and surrounding area are having a very bad day. And I thought the guy microwaving fish in the break room was bad...
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– ben
4 hours ago
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If you google for "density of neutron star in kg/cm3, you get an example of one that reaches 7 x 1014 grams per cc. A 200 ml cup would have 1.4 x 1014 kilograms of mass.
Let me rephrase without exponentiation. It would have a mass of 140,000,000,000,000 kilograms.
For comparison, the mass of the Earth is close to 6 x 1024 kg. That is 10 billion times more massive than your cup, but at a density that is closer to 5.5 grams per cc.
Anyway, back to the office. The cup will fall from the machine and rip a hole as it sinks to the core of the Earth, displacing crust and exposing a bit of mantle in the way. The people and things closer to it will be torn apart and pulled along it due to its gravity - it may be a ten-billionth as massive as the Earth but you are 6,400 km closer to its center of mass.
Throughout the Earth, powerful tectonic shockwaves cross the planet a couple or more times. The Planet will wobble a bit as its center of gravity readjusts. Earth will be slightly more massive, so its gravity will be stronger - but not enough for us to perceive.
The only lasting effect noticeable by us is that the orbital period of the Moon will be shortened by a few hours. Oh, and the mega crater at wherever the office with the vending machine was located.
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I was skeptical that people nearby would "feel" the gravity of the cup's contents - boy was I wrong. Some back of the envelope says that for an 80kg human 30m away the force towards the cup would be equal to the downward force due to the Earth's gravity. Seems like apart from any secondary effects most of the people in the building and surrounding area are having a very bad day. And I thought the guy microwaving fish in the break room was bad...
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– ben
4 hours ago
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If you google for "density of neutron star in kg/cm3, you get an example of one that reaches 7 x 1014 grams per cc. A 200 ml cup would have 1.4 x 1014 kilograms of mass.
Let me rephrase without exponentiation. It would have a mass of 140,000,000,000,000 kilograms.
For comparison, the mass of the Earth is close to 6 x 1024 kg. That is 10 billion times more massive than your cup, but at a density that is closer to 5.5 grams per cc.
Anyway, back to the office. The cup will fall from the machine and rip a hole as it sinks to the core of the Earth, displacing crust and exposing a bit of mantle in the way. The people and things closer to it will be torn apart and pulled along it due to its gravity - it may be a ten-billionth as massive as the Earth but you are 6,400 km closer to its center of mass.
Throughout the Earth, powerful tectonic shockwaves cross the planet a couple or more times. The Planet will wobble a bit as its center of gravity readjusts. Earth will be slightly more massive, so its gravity will be stronger - but not enough for us to perceive.
The only lasting effect noticeable by us is that the orbital period of the Moon will be shortened by a few hours. Oh, and the mega crater at wherever the office with the vending machine was located.
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If you google for "density of neutron star in kg/cm3, you get an example of one that reaches 7 x 1014 grams per cc. A 200 ml cup would have 1.4 x 1014 kilograms of mass.
Let me rephrase without exponentiation. It would have a mass of 140,000,000,000,000 kilograms.
For comparison, the mass of the Earth is close to 6 x 1024 kg. That is 10 billion times more massive than your cup, but at a density that is closer to 5.5 grams per cc.
Anyway, back to the office. The cup will fall from the machine and rip a hole as it sinks to the core of the Earth, displacing crust and exposing a bit of mantle in the way. The people and things closer to it will be torn apart and pulled along it due to its gravity - it may be a ten-billionth as massive as the Earth but you are 6,400 km closer to its center of mass.
Throughout the Earth, powerful tectonic shockwaves cross the planet a couple or more times. The Planet will wobble a bit as its center of gravity readjusts. Earth will be slightly more massive, so its gravity will be stronger - but not enough for us to perceive.
The only lasting effect noticeable by us is that the orbital period of the Moon will be shortened by a few hours. Oh, and the mega crater at wherever the office with the vending machine was located.
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I was skeptical that people nearby would "feel" the gravity of the cup's contents - boy was I wrong. Some back of the envelope says that for an 80kg human 30m away the force towards the cup would be equal to the downward force due to the Earth's gravity. Seems like apart from any secondary effects most of the people in the building and surrounding area are having a very bad day. And I thought the guy microwaving fish in the break room was bad...
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– ben
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I was skeptical that people nearby would "feel" the gravity of the cup's contents - boy was I wrong. Some back of the envelope says that for an 80kg human 30m away the force towards the cup would be equal to the downward force due to the Earth's gravity. Seems like apart from any secondary effects most of the people in the building and surrounding area are having a very bad day. And I thought the guy microwaving fish in the break room was bad...
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– ben
4 hours ago
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I was skeptical that people nearby would "feel" the gravity of the cup's contents - boy was I wrong. Some back of the envelope says that for an 80kg human 30m away the force towards the cup would be equal to the downward force due to the Earth's gravity. Seems like apart from any secondary effects most of the people in the building and surrounding area are having a very bad day. And I thought the guy microwaving fish in the break room was bad...
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– ben
4 hours ago
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I was skeptical that people nearby would "feel" the gravity of the cup's contents - boy was I wrong. Some back of the envelope says that for an 80kg human 30m away the force towards the cup would be equal to the downward force due to the Earth's gravity. Seems like apart from any secondary effects most of the people in the building and surrounding area are having a very bad day. And I thought the guy microwaving fish in the break room was bad...
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– ben
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I don't have the full answer you're looking for - exactly how much damage will be done - but that is definitely going to explode, very spectacularly. And the vapour that used to be your coffee cup will be radioactive.
You suddenly have more stuff in your cup than should reasonably exist in your whole building. The pressure will, eventually, equalise. There will be a shockwave while that works itself out.
Free neutrons will not exist for more than a few minutes at Earth pressure. They would decay, releasing a lot of energy. Unless they collide with an atom first, which will tend to make the atom unstable (ie radioactive). There are more free neutrons in that cup than there are atoms in your office, so this isn't going to be pleasant.
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I don't have the full answer you're looking for - exactly how much damage will be done - but that is definitely going to explode, very spectacularly. And the vapour that used to be your coffee cup will be radioactive.
You suddenly have more stuff in your cup than should reasonably exist in your whole building. The pressure will, eventually, equalise. There will be a shockwave while that works itself out.
Free neutrons will not exist for more than a few minutes at Earth pressure. They would decay, releasing a lot of energy. Unless they collide with an atom first, which will tend to make the atom unstable (ie radioactive). There are more free neutrons in that cup than there are atoms in your office, so this isn't going to be pleasant.
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I don't have the full answer you're looking for - exactly how much damage will be done - but that is definitely going to explode, very spectacularly. And the vapour that used to be your coffee cup will be radioactive.
You suddenly have more stuff in your cup than should reasonably exist in your whole building. The pressure will, eventually, equalise. There will be a shockwave while that works itself out.
Free neutrons will not exist for more than a few minutes at Earth pressure. They would decay, releasing a lot of energy. Unless they collide with an atom first, which will tend to make the atom unstable (ie radioactive). There are more free neutrons in that cup than there are atoms in your office, so this isn't going to be pleasant.
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I don't have the full answer you're looking for - exactly how much damage will be done - but that is definitely going to explode, very spectacularly. And the vapour that used to be your coffee cup will be radioactive.
You suddenly have more stuff in your cup than should reasonably exist in your whole building. The pressure will, eventually, equalise. There will be a shockwave while that works itself out.
Free neutrons will not exist for more than a few minutes at Earth pressure. They would decay, releasing a lot of energy. Unless they collide with an atom first, which will tend to make the atom unstable (ie radioactive). There are more free neutrons in that cup than there are atoms in your office, so this isn't going to be pleasant.
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Where would this vending machine get all that matter, because if it already had that (or the energy equivalent) it would be a chunk of a neutron star itself ? People, as they say, would notice (very, very briefly, before they were wiped out by a globally catastrophic explosion).
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– StephenG
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@StephenG - many SCP objects can do things that aren't physically possible (including conjuring mass from other locations).
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– jdunlop
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Asked for a cup of dark matter but nothing happens, wonder if it is spoilt
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