Do high-wing aircraft represent more difficult engineering challenges than low-wing aircraft?What are the...
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Do high-wing aircraft represent more difficult engineering challenges than low-wing aircraft?
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Generally, it's easier to make things strong in compression than in tension.
In a low-wing plane, the weight of the aircraft is on top of the wing; in a high-wing aircraft, it hangs from it.
It seems to me (I'm not an engineer) that the area of attachment in the latter case has to do a lot more difficult work (suspending the rest of the plane by its bolts) than in the former (bearing the weight from below).
And since in a high-wing aircraft all the structure is in tension (everything is hanging from something above it), presumably it's not just the wing and its attachment points that are affected, but most of the fuselage that has to withstand this tension.
Are these intuitions true, and if so, what are their engineering implications?
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Generally, it's easier to make things strong in compression than in tension.
In a low-wing plane, the weight of the aircraft is on top of the wing; in a high-wing aircraft, it hangs from it.
It seems to me (I'm not an engineer) that the area of attachment in the latter case has to do a lot more difficult work (suspending the rest of the plane by its bolts) than in the former (bearing the weight from below).
And since in a high-wing aircraft all the structure is in tension (everything is hanging from something above it), presumably it's not just the wing and its attachment points that are affected, but most of the fuselage that has to withstand this tension.
Are these intuitions true, and if so, what are their engineering implications?
aircraft-design wing
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Generally, it's easier to make things strong in compression than in tension.
In a low-wing plane, the weight of the aircraft is on top of the wing; in a high-wing aircraft, it hangs from it.
It seems to me (I'm not an engineer) that the area of attachment in the latter case has to do a lot more difficult work (suspending the rest of the plane by its bolts) than in the former (bearing the weight from below).
And since in a high-wing aircraft all the structure is in tension (everything is hanging from something above it), presumably it's not just the wing and its attachment points that are affected, but most of the fuselage that has to withstand this tension.
Are these intuitions true, and if so, what are their engineering implications?
aircraft-design wing
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Generally, it's easier to make things strong in compression than in tension.
In a low-wing plane, the weight of the aircraft is on top of the wing; in a high-wing aircraft, it hangs from it.
It seems to me (I'm not an engineer) that the area of attachment in the latter case has to do a lot more difficult work (suspending the rest of the plane by its bolts) than in the former (bearing the weight from below).
And since in a high-wing aircraft all the structure is in tension (everything is hanging from something above it), presumably it's not just the wing and its attachment points that are affected, but most of the fuselage that has to withstand this tension.
Are these intuitions true, and if so, what are their engineering implications?
aircraft-design wing
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The intuitions depend on the application. Wood is very strong in compression, steel in tension. And we must also consider G loading forces, which only add to the situation.
Airplane designers, over the years, have learned to use sound fundamental structural concepts to advance from opposing tension cables (very strong, not aerodynamic) to cantilever design (loaded triangles in both tension and compression), distribution of load (stressed skin), and tubular design (arch strength), as well as improved building materials
such as aluminum, steel alloys, and titanium.
Although attachment to a high wing as opposed to resting on a low wing does make sense,
the greatest loads are on the wings themselves, and the parts of the fuselage bearing the bending force of elevator and rudder.
So you have a very strong fuselage either resting on or suspended from the wing spars.
Military transports seem to favor high wings, airliners low wings. No strong evidence for either case. But a lot of bolts will make it strong.
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the tensile-versus-compressive stress issues have been worked out to a satisfactory degree many years ago, meaning that the loadpaths for high-versus-low wing aircraft really aren't design differentiators- but there are other issues, as follows.
Low wings furnish a natural location for a wide-stance main landing gear, making for stable landings and easy ground handling. But high wings are less prone to damage from striking rocks or bushes on the ground.
In a low wing layout you can position the pilot and copilot seats over the main wing spar so they do not reduce cabin room, whereas a main spar carry-through in a high wing layout might reduce headroom in the cabin. However, a low wing interferes with the pilot's view of the ground whereas a high wing does not.
These differences- which do not have anything directly to do with stresses in the airframe- affect the pilot's decision-making process with respect to buying and flying a low wing instead of a high wing plane.
I invite the experts here to add their comments.
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For structural weight efficiency, tension wins because stiffness isn't a factor. This means, if structural efficiency is your top priority, a high wing, braced with struts, or for even less weight cables, wins.
With strut bracing, the major structural attachments are simple pin joints, and the highest stress component, the wing strut, is in tension except during reverse or negative loading where it's in compression, but where the requirement is less. There is moderate compression loading along the spar axis directed to the wing root, and along the upper spar cap at the strut attachment, but nothing like the compression stress in a fully cantilevered structure at the wing root.
And for best visualization, really take it to the extreme. Look at a paraglider. You can't compress a string. The wing is "high" and everthing is under tension load. And the whole thing weighs maybe 10lbs but can lift 200+, or 20+ times its weight.
Note that on cantilever high wing airplanes, like a military transport or a Dash 8, the placement of the wing has little structural advantage and there are other issues to favour one or the other, like loading etc.
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Cessna Cardinal is high wing with cantilever beam, no struts. Fixed gear and retractable. Pilot sits slightly ahead of the wing for a great view, and there are no struts to block the side view. Very nice plane to fly. Cessna 210 and P210 are also high wing strutless. I know the pins that hold the ends of the wing spar to the fuselage are pretty big. crossroadsfencing.com/airplane/painting%20pics/IMG_0563.JPG
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Actually, in aircraft construction tension is preferable to compression: aeroplanes are thin walled structures, and compression forces introduce buckling.
In a low wing aircraft, the fuselage is pressing downwards on the top half of the wing, the bit that is under compression. In fact, quite complicated frame structure members are required for the fuselage/wing intersection for low wing aircraft.
So although high vs low wing does have some differences in structural implementation, those are not the deciding factors in the layout. The design considerations for operational use are what drives the choice high-low-mid wing. Picture below from Torenbeek, depicting the Galaxy C-5.
High wing designs are usually applied for aircraft that need quick loading/unloading, and/or operate from airports with limited ground equipment.
- Wing out of the way: good for loading/unloading, and for long extended flaps on STOL aircraft.
- Floor close to the ground: easy cargo handling, good access for passengers, no need for airstrips.
- More room for propellers.
- Lowest induced drag at high lift.
- Self stabilising roll behaviour.
Mid wing has the lowest drag of the three layouts at high speed, but poses a particular problem in running the wing through the fuselage. The wing must be a complete structure, because it has the highest bending loads in the wing centre and we don't want any holes there, best to make the hole in the fuselage to lead the wing through. But this bit of the fuselage cannot be used for passengers or cargo.
Low wing is usually applied in passenger aircraft because:
- The undercarriage can be easily retracted.
- The wing forms an impact structure that absorbs energy in case of a crash. Although the fuel tanks are in the wing...
- The wing is fully underneath the floor and does not impede on the thoroughfare in the fuselage.
- Optimal use of ground effect during take-off and landing.
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The intuitions depend on the application. Wood is very strong in compression, steel in tension. And we must also consider G loading forces, which only add to the situation.
Airplane designers, over the years, have learned to use sound fundamental structural concepts to advance from opposing tension cables (very strong, not aerodynamic) to cantilever design (loaded triangles in both tension and compression), distribution of load (stressed skin), and tubular design (arch strength), as well as improved building materials
such as aluminum, steel alloys, and titanium.
Although attachment to a high wing as opposed to resting on a low wing does make sense,
the greatest loads are on the wings themselves, and the parts of the fuselage bearing the bending force of elevator and rudder.
So you have a very strong fuselage either resting on or suspended from the wing spars.
Military transports seem to favor high wings, airliners low wings. No strong evidence for either case. But a lot of bolts will make it strong.
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The intuitions depend on the application. Wood is very strong in compression, steel in tension. And we must also consider G loading forces, which only add to the situation.
Airplane designers, over the years, have learned to use sound fundamental structural concepts to advance from opposing tension cables (very strong, not aerodynamic) to cantilever design (loaded triangles in both tension and compression), distribution of load (stressed skin), and tubular design (arch strength), as well as improved building materials
such as aluminum, steel alloys, and titanium.
Although attachment to a high wing as opposed to resting on a low wing does make sense,
the greatest loads are on the wings themselves, and the parts of the fuselage bearing the bending force of elevator and rudder.
So you have a very strong fuselage either resting on or suspended from the wing spars.
Military transports seem to favor high wings, airliners low wings. No strong evidence for either case. But a lot of bolts will make it strong.
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add a comment |
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The intuitions depend on the application. Wood is very strong in compression, steel in tension. And we must also consider G loading forces, which only add to the situation.
Airplane designers, over the years, have learned to use sound fundamental structural concepts to advance from opposing tension cables (very strong, not aerodynamic) to cantilever design (loaded triangles in both tension and compression), distribution of load (stressed skin), and tubular design (arch strength), as well as improved building materials
such as aluminum, steel alloys, and titanium.
Although attachment to a high wing as opposed to resting on a low wing does make sense,
the greatest loads are on the wings themselves, and the parts of the fuselage bearing the bending force of elevator and rudder.
So you have a very strong fuselage either resting on or suspended from the wing spars.
Military transports seem to favor high wings, airliners low wings. No strong evidence for either case. But a lot of bolts will make it strong.
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The intuitions depend on the application. Wood is very strong in compression, steel in tension. And we must also consider G loading forces, which only add to the situation.
Airplane designers, over the years, have learned to use sound fundamental structural concepts to advance from opposing tension cables (very strong, not aerodynamic) to cantilever design (loaded triangles in both tension and compression), distribution of load (stressed skin), and tubular design (arch strength), as well as improved building materials
such as aluminum, steel alloys, and titanium.
Although attachment to a high wing as opposed to resting on a low wing does make sense,
the greatest loads are on the wings themselves, and the parts of the fuselage bearing the bending force of elevator and rudder.
So you have a very strong fuselage either resting on or suspended from the wing spars.
Military transports seem to favor high wings, airliners low wings. No strong evidence for either case. But a lot of bolts will make it strong.
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Robert DiGiovanniRobert DiGiovanni
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the tensile-versus-compressive stress issues have been worked out to a satisfactory degree many years ago, meaning that the loadpaths for high-versus-low wing aircraft really aren't design differentiators- but there are other issues, as follows.
Low wings furnish a natural location for a wide-stance main landing gear, making for stable landings and easy ground handling. But high wings are less prone to damage from striking rocks or bushes on the ground.
In a low wing layout you can position the pilot and copilot seats over the main wing spar so they do not reduce cabin room, whereas a main spar carry-through in a high wing layout might reduce headroom in the cabin. However, a low wing interferes with the pilot's view of the ground whereas a high wing does not.
These differences- which do not have anything directly to do with stresses in the airframe- affect the pilot's decision-making process with respect to buying and flying a low wing instead of a high wing plane.
I invite the experts here to add their comments.
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add a comment |
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the tensile-versus-compressive stress issues have been worked out to a satisfactory degree many years ago, meaning that the loadpaths for high-versus-low wing aircraft really aren't design differentiators- but there are other issues, as follows.
Low wings furnish a natural location for a wide-stance main landing gear, making for stable landings and easy ground handling. But high wings are less prone to damage from striking rocks or bushes on the ground.
In a low wing layout you can position the pilot and copilot seats over the main wing spar so they do not reduce cabin room, whereas a main spar carry-through in a high wing layout might reduce headroom in the cabin. However, a low wing interferes with the pilot's view of the ground whereas a high wing does not.
These differences- which do not have anything directly to do with stresses in the airframe- affect the pilot's decision-making process with respect to buying and flying a low wing instead of a high wing plane.
I invite the experts here to add their comments.
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
the tensile-versus-compressive stress issues have been worked out to a satisfactory degree many years ago, meaning that the loadpaths for high-versus-low wing aircraft really aren't design differentiators- but there are other issues, as follows.
Low wings furnish a natural location for a wide-stance main landing gear, making for stable landings and easy ground handling. But high wings are less prone to damage from striking rocks or bushes on the ground.
In a low wing layout you can position the pilot and copilot seats over the main wing spar so they do not reduce cabin room, whereas a main spar carry-through in a high wing layout might reduce headroom in the cabin. However, a low wing interferes with the pilot's view of the ground whereas a high wing does not.
These differences- which do not have anything directly to do with stresses in the airframe- affect the pilot's decision-making process with respect to buying and flying a low wing instead of a high wing plane.
I invite the experts here to add their comments.
$endgroup$
the tensile-versus-compressive stress issues have been worked out to a satisfactory degree many years ago, meaning that the loadpaths for high-versus-low wing aircraft really aren't design differentiators- but there are other issues, as follows.
Low wings furnish a natural location for a wide-stance main landing gear, making for stable landings and easy ground handling. But high wings are less prone to damage from striking rocks or bushes on the ground.
In a low wing layout you can position the pilot and copilot seats over the main wing spar so they do not reduce cabin room, whereas a main spar carry-through in a high wing layout might reduce headroom in the cabin. However, a low wing interferes with the pilot's view of the ground whereas a high wing does not.
These differences- which do not have anything directly to do with stresses in the airframe- affect the pilot's decision-making process with respect to buying and flying a low wing instead of a high wing plane.
I invite the experts here to add their comments.
answered 2 hours ago
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For structural weight efficiency, tension wins because stiffness isn't a factor. This means, if structural efficiency is your top priority, a high wing, braced with struts, or for even less weight cables, wins.
With strut bracing, the major structural attachments are simple pin joints, and the highest stress component, the wing strut, is in tension except during reverse or negative loading where it's in compression, but where the requirement is less. There is moderate compression loading along the spar axis directed to the wing root, and along the upper spar cap at the strut attachment, but nothing like the compression stress in a fully cantilevered structure at the wing root.
And for best visualization, really take it to the extreme. Look at a paraglider. You can't compress a string. The wing is "high" and everthing is under tension load. And the whole thing weighs maybe 10lbs but can lift 200+, or 20+ times its weight.
Note that on cantilever high wing airplanes, like a military transport or a Dash 8, the placement of the wing has little structural advantage and there are other issues to favour one or the other, like loading etc.
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Cessna Cardinal is high wing with cantilever beam, no struts. Fixed gear and retractable. Pilot sits slightly ahead of the wing for a great view, and there are no struts to block the side view. Very nice plane to fly. Cessna 210 and P210 are also high wing strutless. I know the pins that hold the ends of the wing spar to the fuselage are pretty big. crossroadsfencing.com/airplane/painting%20pics/IMG_0563.JPG
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For structural weight efficiency, tension wins because stiffness isn't a factor. This means, if structural efficiency is your top priority, a high wing, braced with struts, or for even less weight cables, wins.
With strut bracing, the major structural attachments are simple pin joints, and the highest stress component, the wing strut, is in tension except during reverse or negative loading where it's in compression, but where the requirement is less. There is moderate compression loading along the spar axis directed to the wing root, and along the upper spar cap at the strut attachment, but nothing like the compression stress in a fully cantilevered structure at the wing root.
And for best visualization, really take it to the extreme. Look at a paraglider. You can't compress a string. The wing is "high" and everthing is under tension load. And the whole thing weighs maybe 10lbs but can lift 200+, or 20+ times its weight.
Note that on cantilever high wing airplanes, like a military transport or a Dash 8, the placement of the wing has little structural advantage and there are other issues to favour one or the other, like loading etc.
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Cessna Cardinal is high wing with cantilever beam, no struts. Fixed gear and retractable. Pilot sits slightly ahead of the wing for a great view, and there are no struts to block the side view. Very nice plane to fly. Cessna 210 and P210 are also high wing strutless. I know the pins that hold the ends of the wing spar to the fuselage are pretty big. crossroadsfencing.com/airplane/painting%20pics/IMG_0563.JPG
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– CrossRoads
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For structural weight efficiency, tension wins because stiffness isn't a factor. This means, if structural efficiency is your top priority, a high wing, braced with struts, or for even less weight cables, wins.
With strut bracing, the major structural attachments are simple pin joints, and the highest stress component, the wing strut, is in tension except during reverse or negative loading where it's in compression, but where the requirement is less. There is moderate compression loading along the spar axis directed to the wing root, and along the upper spar cap at the strut attachment, but nothing like the compression stress in a fully cantilevered structure at the wing root.
And for best visualization, really take it to the extreme. Look at a paraglider. You can't compress a string. The wing is "high" and everthing is under tension load. And the whole thing weighs maybe 10lbs but can lift 200+, or 20+ times its weight.
Note that on cantilever high wing airplanes, like a military transport or a Dash 8, the placement of the wing has little structural advantage and there are other issues to favour one or the other, like loading etc.
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For structural weight efficiency, tension wins because stiffness isn't a factor. This means, if structural efficiency is your top priority, a high wing, braced with struts, or for even less weight cables, wins.
With strut bracing, the major structural attachments are simple pin joints, and the highest stress component, the wing strut, is in tension except during reverse or negative loading where it's in compression, but where the requirement is less. There is moderate compression loading along the spar axis directed to the wing root, and along the upper spar cap at the strut attachment, but nothing like the compression stress in a fully cantilevered structure at the wing root.
And for best visualization, really take it to the extreme. Look at a paraglider. You can't compress a string. The wing is "high" and everthing is under tension load. And the whole thing weighs maybe 10lbs but can lift 200+, or 20+ times its weight.
Note that on cantilever high wing airplanes, like a military transport or a Dash 8, the placement of the wing has little structural advantage and there are other issues to favour one or the other, like loading etc.
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John KJohn K
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Cessna Cardinal is high wing with cantilever beam, no struts. Fixed gear and retractable. Pilot sits slightly ahead of the wing for a great view, and there are no struts to block the side view. Very nice plane to fly. Cessna 210 and P210 are also high wing strutless. I know the pins that hold the ends of the wing spar to the fuselage are pretty big. crossroadsfencing.com/airplane/painting%20pics/IMG_0563.JPG
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Cessna Cardinal is high wing with cantilever beam, no struts. Fixed gear and retractable. Pilot sits slightly ahead of the wing for a great view, and there are no struts to block the side view. Very nice plane to fly. Cessna 210 and P210 are also high wing strutless. I know the pins that hold the ends of the wing spar to the fuselage are pretty big. crossroadsfencing.com/airplane/painting%20pics/IMG_0563.JPG
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– CrossRoads
49 mins ago
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Cessna Cardinal is high wing with cantilever beam, no struts. Fixed gear and retractable. Pilot sits slightly ahead of the wing for a great view, and there are no struts to block the side view. Very nice plane to fly. Cessna 210 and P210 are also high wing strutless. I know the pins that hold the ends of the wing spar to the fuselage are pretty big. crossroadsfencing.com/airplane/painting%20pics/IMG_0563.JPG
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– CrossRoads
49 mins ago
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Cessna Cardinal is high wing with cantilever beam, no struts. Fixed gear and retractable. Pilot sits slightly ahead of the wing for a great view, and there are no struts to block the side view. Very nice plane to fly. Cessna 210 and P210 are also high wing strutless. I know the pins that hold the ends of the wing spar to the fuselage are pretty big. crossroadsfencing.com/airplane/painting%20pics/IMG_0563.JPG
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Actually, in aircraft construction tension is preferable to compression: aeroplanes are thin walled structures, and compression forces introduce buckling.
In a low wing aircraft, the fuselage is pressing downwards on the top half of the wing, the bit that is under compression. In fact, quite complicated frame structure members are required for the fuselage/wing intersection for low wing aircraft.
So although high vs low wing does have some differences in structural implementation, those are not the deciding factors in the layout. The design considerations for operational use are what drives the choice high-low-mid wing. Picture below from Torenbeek, depicting the Galaxy C-5.
High wing designs are usually applied for aircraft that need quick loading/unloading, and/or operate from airports with limited ground equipment.
- Wing out of the way: good for loading/unloading, and for long extended flaps on STOL aircraft.
- Floor close to the ground: easy cargo handling, good access for passengers, no need for airstrips.
- More room for propellers.
- Lowest induced drag at high lift.
- Self stabilising roll behaviour.
Mid wing has the lowest drag of the three layouts at high speed, but poses a particular problem in running the wing through the fuselage. The wing must be a complete structure, because it has the highest bending loads in the wing centre and we don't want any holes there, best to make the hole in the fuselage to lead the wing through. But this bit of the fuselage cannot be used for passengers or cargo.
Low wing is usually applied in passenger aircraft because:
- The undercarriage can be easily retracted.
- The wing forms an impact structure that absorbs energy in case of a crash. Although the fuel tanks are in the wing...
- The wing is fully underneath the floor and does not impede on the thoroughfare in the fuselage.
- Optimal use of ground effect during take-off and landing.
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Actually, in aircraft construction tension is preferable to compression: aeroplanes are thin walled structures, and compression forces introduce buckling.
In a low wing aircraft, the fuselage is pressing downwards on the top half of the wing, the bit that is under compression. In fact, quite complicated frame structure members are required for the fuselage/wing intersection for low wing aircraft.
So although high vs low wing does have some differences in structural implementation, those are not the deciding factors in the layout. The design considerations for operational use are what drives the choice high-low-mid wing. Picture below from Torenbeek, depicting the Galaxy C-5.
High wing designs are usually applied for aircraft that need quick loading/unloading, and/or operate from airports with limited ground equipment.
- Wing out of the way: good for loading/unloading, and for long extended flaps on STOL aircraft.
- Floor close to the ground: easy cargo handling, good access for passengers, no need for airstrips.
- More room for propellers.
- Lowest induced drag at high lift.
- Self stabilising roll behaviour.
Mid wing has the lowest drag of the three layouts at high speed, but poses a particular problem in running the wing through the fuselage. The wing must be a complete structure, because it has the highest bending loads in the wing centre and we don't want any holes there, best to make the hole in the fuselage to lead the wing through. But this bit of the fuselage cannot be used for passengers or cargo.
Low wing is usually applied in passenger aircraft because:
- The undercarriage can be easily retracted.
- The wing forms an impact structure that absorbs energy in case of a crash. Although the fuel tanks are in the wing...
- The wing is fully underneath the floor and does not impede on the thoroughfare in the fuselage.
- Optimal use of ground effect during take-off and landing.
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Actually, in aircraft construction tension is preferable to compression: aeroplanes are thin walled structures, and compression forces introduce buckling.
In a low wing aircraft, the fuselage is pressing downwards on the top half of the wing, the bit that is under compression. In fact, quite complicated frame structure members are required for the fuselage/wing intersection for low wing aircraft.
So although high vs low wing does have some differences in structural implementation, those are not the deciding factors in the layout. The design considerations for operational use are what drives the choice high-low-mid wing. Picture below from Torenbeek, depicting the Galaxy C-5.
High wing designs are usually applied for aircraft that need quick loading/unloading, and/or operate from airports with limited ground equipment.
- Wing out of the way: good for loading/unloading, and for long extended flaps on STOL aircraft.
- Floor close to the ground: easy cargo handling, good access for passengers, no need for airstrips.
- More room for propellers.
- Lowest induced drag at high lift.
- Self stabilising roll behaviour.
Mid wing has the lowest drag of the three layouts at high speed, but poses a particular problem in running the wing through the fuselage. The wing must be a complete structure, because it has the highest bending loads in the wing centre and we don't want any holes there, best to make the hole in the fuselage to lead the wing through. But this bit of the fuselage cannot be used for passengers or cargo.
Low wing is usually applied in passenger aircraft because:
- The undercarriage can be easily retracted.
- The wing forms an impact structure that absorbs energy in case of a crash. Although the fuel tanks are in the wing...
- The wing is fully underneath the floor and does not impede on the thoroughfare in the fuselage.
- Optimal use of ground effect during take-off and landing.
$endgroup$
Actually, in aircraft construction tension is preferable to compression: aeroplanes are thin walled structures, and compression forces introduce buckling.
In a low wing aircraft, the fuselage is pressing downwards on the top half of the wing, the bit that is under compression. In fact, quite complicated frame structure members are required for the fuselage/wing intersection for low wing aircraft.
So although high vs low wing does have some differences in structural implementation, those are not the deciding factors in the layout. The design considerations for operational use are what drives the choice high-low-mid wing. Picture below from Torenbeek, depicting the Galaxy C-5.
High wing designs are usually applied for aircraft that need quick loading/unloading, and/or operate from airports with limited ground equipment.
- Wing out of the way: good for loading/unloading, and for long extended flaps on STOL aircraft.
- Floor close to the ground: easy cargo handling, good access for passengers, no need for airstrips.
- More room for propellers.
- Lowest induced drag at high lift.
- Self stabilising roll behaviour.
Mid wing has the lowest drag of the three layouts at high speed, but poses a particular problem in running the wing through the fuselage. The wing must be a complete structure, because it has the highest bending loads in the wing centre and we don't want any holes there, best to make the hole in the fuselage to lead the wing through. But this bit of the fuselage cannot be used for passengers or cargo.
Low wing is usually applied in passenger aircraft because:
- The undercarriage can be easily retracted.
- The wing forms an impact structure that absorbs energy in case of a crash. Although the fuel tanks are in the wing...
- The wing is fully underneath the floor and does not impede on the thoroughfare in the fuselage.
- Optimal use of ground effect during take-off and landing.
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