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Can a non-invertible function be inverted by returning a set of all possible solutions?
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Is there a concept of inverting a non-invertible function by returning a set of the possible solutions?
For example:
$g(x) = x^2$
Would it be possible to create an inverse function $f(y)$ where, for example:
$f(4) = {-2,2}$
(I'm pretty sure I'm going about this wrong, but I'm still learning so I don't know *how* I'm wrong)
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Is there a concept of inverting a non-invertible function by returning a set of the possible solutions?
For example:
$g(x) = x^2$
Would it be possible to create an inverse function $f(y)$ where, for example:
$f(4) = {-2,2}$
(I'm pretty sure I'm going about this wrong, but I'm still learning so I don't know *how* I'm wrong)
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If you define $f$ as a function from $mathbb{R}$ to the $textit{power set}$ of $mathbb{R}$, then yes, that would be a function. However, $g circ f$ does not equal the identity anymore, which is a property you'd want/expect from an inverse.
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Is there a concept of inverting a non-invertible function by returning a set of the possible solutions?
For example:
$g(x) = x^2$
Would it be possible to create an inverse function $f(y)$ where, for example:
$f(4) = {-2,2}$
(I'm pretty sure I'm going about this wrong, but I'm still learning so I don't know *how* I'm wrong)
functions inverse-function
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Is there a concept of inverting a non-invertible function by returning a set of the possible solutions?
For example:
$g(x) = x^2$
Would it be possible to create an inverse function $f(y)$ where, for example:
$f(4) = {-2,2}$
(I'm pretty sure I'm going about this wrong, but I'm still learning so I don't know *how* I'm wrong)
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If you define $f$ as a function from $mathbb{R}$ to the $textit{power set}$ of $mathbb{R}$, then yes, that would be a function. However, $g circ f$ does not equal the identity anymore, which is a property you'd want/expect from an inverse.
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– Alexander Geldhof
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If you define $f$ as a function from $mathbb{R}$ to the $textit{power set}$ of $mathbb{R}$, then yes, that would be a function. However, $g circ f$ does not equal the identity anymore, which is a property you'd want/expect from an inverse.
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– Alexander Geldhof
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If you define $f$ as a function from $mathbb{R}$ to the $textit{power set}$ of $mathbb{R}$, then yes, that would be a function. However, $g circ f$ does not equal the identity anymore, which is a property you'd want/expect from an inverse.
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– Alexander Geldhof
8 hours ago
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If you define $f$ as a function from $mathbb{R}$ to the $textit{power set}$ of $mathbb{R}$, then yes, that would be a function. However, $g circ f$ does not equal the identity anymore, which is a property you'd want/expect from an inverse.
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This is a multivalued function (see especially the first example!), or multifunction, or set-valued function. A set-valued map, taking elements of $X$ and producing subsets of $Y$, is often denoted $f : X rightrightarrows Y$.
It can also be denoted more literally by $f : X to 2^Y$, as such maps can be thought of as (ordinary, single-valued) functions from $X$ to the power set of $Y$.
Finally, one could also view them simply as relations with a full domain.
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Multivalued functions were the missing piece - thanks!
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It is common to use the notation $f^{-1}(A)$, where $A$ is a subset of the value range of $f$, as a shorthand to describe the set ${x : f(x) in A }$. Furthermore, if $A$ is a set with only one value $x$ it is also somewhat common to just write $f^{-1}(x)$ instead of $f^{-1}({x})$. So if in your case the context is clear, it is fine to write $g^{-1}(4) = {2, -2}$.
Also there are functions that are multivalued by default like the complex logarithm for example.
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So $g^{-1}(4)$ could be the same as $g^{-1}({4})$ in a certain context? Would that make $g^{-1}$ a multivalued function?
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It is possible to have a set-valued function just like your $f$. The only 'but' is that it is not a function $f: mathbb Rto mathbb R$ but actually $f:mathbb Rtomathcal P(mathbb R)$, i.e. its target is the set of parts (or power set) of $mathbb R$.
What you are actually describing by your $f$ is the level sets of $g$. Any more I would add is contained in @LionCoder's comment, so I invite you to continue reading his input instead of repeating what they have said.
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To give a function is the same to give the sets where the function is constant: $cmapsto f^{-1}(c)$. This would be a map $F:mathbb{R}to power(mathbb{R})$. The function $F$ is almost injective (since $f^{-1}(c)cap f^{-1}(c')=emptyset$ for $cneq c'$). It might not be injective if $f^{-1}(c)=f^{-1}(c')=emptyset$, that is, if $c$ and $c'$ are not in the range of $f$. The result is:
$$F: Image(f)to power(mathbb{R})$$
is injective.
This map can never be surjective (by cardinality), so this is the best we can say. If you restrict an injective function to its image, then it becomes bijective.
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We usually want functions to only take one value in value space.
If there are several different possible ones, we call them branches of a function.
For example $f^{-1}(t) = -sqrt{t}$ is one such branch that is inverse to $f(t) = t^2$
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This is a multivalued function (see especially the first example!), or multifunction, or set-valued function. A set-valued map, taking elements of $X$ and producing subsets of $Y$, is often denoted $f : X rightrightarrows Y$.
It can also be denoted more literally by $f : X to 2^Y$, as such maps can be thought of as (ordinary, single-valued) functions from $X$ to the power set of $Y$.
Finally, one could also view them simply as relations with a full domain.
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Multivalued functions were the missing piece - thanks!
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– Code Slinger
4 hours ago
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This is a multivalued function (see especially the first example!), or multifunction, or set-valued function. A set-valued map, taking elements of $X$ and producing subsets of $Y$, is often denoted $f : X rightrightarrows Y$.
It can also be denoted more literally by $f : X to 2^Y$, as such maps can be thought of as (ordinary, single-valued) functions from $X$ to the power set of $Y$.
Finally, one could also view them simply as relations with a full domain.
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Multivalued functions were the missing piece - thanks!
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– Code Slinger
4 hours ago
add a comment |
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This is a multivalued function (see especially the first example!), or multifunction, or set-valued function. A set-valued map, taking elements of $X$ and producing subsets of $Y$, is often denoted $f : X rightrightarrows Y$.
It can also be denoted more literally by $f : X to 2^Y$, as such maps can be thought of as (ordinary, single-valued) functions from $X$ to the power set of $Y$.
Finally, one could also view them simply as relations with a full domain.
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This is a multivalued function (see especially the first example!), or multifunction, or set-valued function. A set-valued map, taking elements of $X$ and producing subsets of $Y$, is often denoted $f : X rightrightarrows Y$.
It can also be denoted more literally by $f : X to 2^Y$, as such maps can be thought of as (ordinary, single-valued) functions from $X$ to the power set of $Y$.
Finally, one could also view them simply as relations with a full domain.
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Multivalued functions were the missing piece - thanks!
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Multivalued functions were the missing piece - thanks!
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Multivalued functions were the missing piece - thanks!
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Multivalued functions were the missing piece - thanks!
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It is common to use the notation $f^{-1}(A)$, where $A$ is a subset of the value range of $f$, as a shorthand to describe the set ${x : f(x) in A }$. Furthermore, if $A$ is a set with only one value $x$ it is also somewhat common to just write $f^{-1}(x)$ instead of $f^{-1}({x})$. So if in your case the context is clear, it is fine to write $g^{-1}(4) = {2, -2}$.
Also there are functions that are multivalued by default like the complex logarithm for example.
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So $g^{-1}(4)$ could be the same as $g^{-1}({4})$ in a certain context? Would that make $g^{-1}$ a multivalued function?
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– Code Slinger
4 hours ago
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It is common to use the notation $f^{-1}(A)$, where $A$ is a subset of the value range of $f$, as a shorthand to describe the set ${x : f(x) in A }$. Furthermore, if $A$ is a set with only one value $x$ it is also somewhat common to just write $f^{-1}(x)$ instead of $f^{-1}({x})$. So if in your case the context is clear, it is fine to write $g^{-1}(4) = {2, -2}$.
Also there are functions that are multivalued by default like the complex logarithm for example.
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So $g^{-1}(4)$ could be the same as $g^{-1}({4})$ in a certain context? Would that make $g^{-1}$ a multivalued function?
$endgroup$
– Code Slinger
4 hours ago
add a comment |
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It is common to use the notation $f^{-1}(A)$, where $A$ is a subset of the value range of $f$, as a shorthand to describe the set ${x : f(x) in A }$. Furthermore, if $A$ is a set with only one value $x$ it is also somewhat common to just write $f^{-1}(x)$ instead of $f^{-1}({x})$. So if in your case the context is clear, it is fine to write $g^{-1}(4) = {2, -2}$.
Also there are functions that are multivalued by default like the complex logarithm for example.
$endgroup$
It is common to use the notation $f^{-1}(A)$, where $A$ is a subset of the value range of $f$, as a shorthand to describe the set ${x : f(x) in A }$. Furthermore, if $A$ is a set with only one value $x$ it is also somewhat common to just write $f^{-1}(x)$ instead of $f^{-1}({x})$. So if in your case the context is clear, it is fine to write $g^{-1}(4) = {2, -2}$.
Also there are functions that are multivalued by default like the complex logarithm for example.
answered 8 hours ago
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So $g^{-1}(4)$ could be the same as $g^{-1}({4})$ in a certain context? Would that make $g^{-1}$ a multivalued function?
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– Code Slinger
4 hours ago
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So $g^{-1}(4)$ could be the same as $g^{-1}({4})$ in a certain context? Would that make $g^{-1}$ a multivalued function?
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– Code Slinger
4 hours ago
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So $g^{-1}(4)$ could be the same as $g^{-1}({4})$ in a certain context? Would that make $g^{-1}$ a multivalued function?
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– Code Slinger
4 hours ago
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So $g^{-1}(4)$ could be the same as $g^{-1}({4})$ in a certain context? Would that make $g^{-1}$ a multivalued function?
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– Code Slinger
4 hours ago
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It is possible to have a set-valued function just like your $f$. The only 'but' is that it is not a function $f: mathbb Rto mathbb R$ but actually $f:mathbb Rtomathcal P(mathbb R)$, i.e. its target is the set of parts (or power set) of $mathbb R$.
What you are actually describing by your $f$ is the level sets of $g$. Any more I would add is contained in @LionCoder's comment, so I invite you to continue reading his input instead of repeating what they have said.
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add a comment |
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It is possible to have a set-valued function just like your $f$. The only 'but' is that it is not a function $f: mathbb Rto mathbb R$ but actually $f:mathbb Rtomathcal P(mathbb R)$, i.e. its target is the set of parts (or power set) of $mathbb R$.
What you are actually describing by your $f$ is the level sets of $g$. Any more I would add is contained in @LionCoder's comment, so I invite you to continue reading his input instead of repeating what they have said.
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
It is possible to have a set-valued function just like your $f$. The only 'but' is that it is not a function $f: mathbb Rto mathbb R$ but actually $f:mathbb Rtomathcal P(mathbb R)$, i.e. its target is the set of parts (or power set) of $mathbb R$.
What you are actually describing by your $f$ is the level sets of $g$. Any more I would add is contained in @LionCoder's comment, so I invite you to continue reading his input instead of repeating what they have said.
$endgroup$
It is possible to have a set-valued function just like your $f$. The only 'but' is that it is not a function $f: mathbb Rto mathbb R$ but actually $f:mathbb Rtomathcal P(mathbb R)$, i.e. its target is the set of parts (or power set) of $mathbb R$.
What you are actually describing by your $f$ is the level sets of $g$. Any more I would add is contained in @LionCoder's comment, so I invite you to continue reading his input instead of repeating what they have said.
answered 8 hours ago
Sam SkywalkerSam Skywalker
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To give a function is the same to give the sets where the function is constant: $cmapsto f^{-1}(c)$. This would be a map $F:mathbb{R}to power(mathbb{R})$. The function $F$ is almost injective (since $f^{-1}(c)cap f^{-1}(c')=emptyset$ for $cneq c'$). It might not be injective if $f^{-1}(c)=f^{-1}(c')=emptyset$, that is, if $c$ and $c'$ are not in the range of $f$. The result is:
$$F: Image(f)to power(mathbb{R})$$
is injective.
This map can never be surjective (by cardinality), so this is the best we can say. If you restrict an injective function to its image, then it becomes bijective.
$endgroup$
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$begingroup$
To give a function is the same to give the sets where the function is constant: $cmapsto f^{-1}(c)$. This would be a map $F:mathbb{R}to power(mathbb{R})$. The function $F$ is almost injective (since $f^{-1}(c)cap f^{-1}(c')=emptyset$ for $cneq c'$). It might not be injective if $f^{-1}(c)=f^{-1}(c')=emptyset$, that is, if $c$ and $c'$ are not in the range of $f$. The result is:
$$F: Image(f)to power(mathbb{R})$$
is injective.
This map can never be surjective (by cardinality), so this is the best we can say. If you restrict an injective function to its image, then it becomes bijective.
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
To give a function is the same to give the sets where the function is constant: $cmapsto f^{-1}(c)$. This would be a map $F:mathbb{R}to power(mathbb{R})$. The function $F$ is almost injective (since $f^{-1}(c)cap f^{-1}(c')=emptyset$ for $cneq c'$). It might not be injective if $f^{-1}(c)=f^{-1}(c')=emptyset$, that is, if $c$ and $c'$ are not in the range of $f$. The result is:
$$F: Image(f)to power(mathbb{R})$$
is injective.
This map can never be surjective (by cardinality), so this is the best we can say. If you restrict an injective function to its image, then it becomes bijective.
$endgroup$
To give a function is the same to give the sets where the function is constant: $cmapsto f^{-1}(c)$. This would be a map $F:mathbb{R}to power(mathbb{R})$. The function $F$ is almost injective (since $f^{-1}(c)cap f^{-1}(c')=emptyset$ for $cneq c'$). It might not be injective if $f^{-1}(c)=f^{-1}(c')=emptyset$, that is, if $c$ and $c'$ are not in the range of $f$. The result is:
$$F: Image(f)to power(mathbb{R})$$
is injective.
This map can never be surjective (by cardinality), so this is the best we can say. If you restrict an injective function to its image, then it becomes bijective.
answered 8 hours ago
Hudson LimaHudson Lima
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We usually want functions to only take one value in value space.
If there are several different possible ones, we call them branches of a function.
For example $f^{-1}(t) = -sqrt{t}$ is one such branch that is inverse to $f(t) = t^2$
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$begingroup$
We usually want functions to only take one value in value space.
If there are several different possible ones, we call them branches of a function.
For example $f^{-1}(t) = -sqrt{t}$ is one such branch that is inverse to $f(t) = t^2$
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
We usually want functions to only take one value in value space.
If there are several different possible ones, we call them branches of a function.
For example $f^{-1}(t) = -sqrt{t}$ is one such branch that is inverse to $f(t) = t^2$
$endgroup$
We usually want functions to only take one value in value space.
If there are several different possible ones, we call them branches of a function.
For example $f^{-1}(t) = -sqrt{t}$ is one such branch that is inverse to $f(t) = t^2$
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If you define $f$ as a function from $mathbb{R}$ to the $textit{power set}$ of $mathbb{R}$, then yes, that would be a function. However, $g circ f$ does not equal the identity anymore, which is a property you'd want/expect from an inverse.
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