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I'm hoping for some advice on which loans I should focus on paying off first.
I'm 28 and just got my first 'real' job about 2 years ago after 8 years of schooling. I've paid off all my credit card debt and can now focus on these loans.
Debt/Loans:
Unsubsidized Student Loans ($9,000)
US $3100 @ 6.55%
US $2200 @ 6.55%
US $2100 @ 6.55%
US $1600 @ 6.55%
Subsidized Student Loans ($12,300)
US $3000 @ 4.25%
US $4600 @ 3.15%
US $4700 @ 3.15%
Auto Loan
US $24,500 @ 5.99%
Income information:
Gross: US $4600/mo
Net Income after retirement, insurances etc.: US $2,930/month
Rent: $675/mo
I'm not looking at a big promotion potential, so working with my income, I know I'll be able to pay these off in the next 5-7 years (as long as I don't decide to have kids anytime soon)- I'm just wondering if someone has some advice on the strategy I should take toward paying these off.
Should I focus on the Auto loan since it's "Bad debt"? or should I focus on the smaller more accomplish-able unsub. student loans one at a time since they have a slightly higher interest rate? Should I save and drop a big chunk of money on student loans or auto loan at one time (e.g. at the end of the year)?
To me this feels like A LOT of debt, perspective would be great - is this actually a LOT of debt or have I just been living the grad student life for too long and everyone else has this much debt too? #millennialdebt
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I'm hoping for some advice on which loans I should focus on paying off first.
I'm 28 and just got my first 'real' job about 2 years ago after 8 years of schooling. I've paid off all my credit card debt and can now focus on these loans.
Debt/Loans:
Unsubsidized Student Loans ($9,000)
US $3100 @ 6.55%
US $2200 @ 6.55%
US $2100 @ 6.55%
US $1600 @ 6.55%
Subsidized Student Loans ($12,300)
US $3000 @ 4.25%
US $4600 @ 3.15%
US $4700 @ 3.15%
Auto Loan
US $24,500 @ 5.99%
Income information:
Gross: US $4600/mo
Net Income after retirement, insurances etc.: US $2,930/month
Rent: $675/mo
I'm not looking at a big promotion potential, so working with my income, I know I'll be able to pay these off in the next 5-7 years (as long as I don't decide to have kids anytime soon)- I'm just wondering if someone has some advice on the strategy I should take toward paying these off.
Should I focus on the Auto loan since it's "Bad debt"? or should I focus on the smaller more accomplish-able unsub. student loans one at a time since they have a slightly higher interest rate? Should I save and drop a big chunk of money on student loans or auto loan at one time (e.g. at the end of the year)?
To me this feels like A LOT of debt, perspective would be great - is this actually a LOT of debt or have I just been living the grad student life for too long and everyone else has this much debt too? #millennialdebt
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It is a lot of debt. What are the car payments, and how long until it gets paid off? Any plan you make now should take into account how you will replace it. (Best case, you won't need to until years after it is paid off. Worst case: it gets totaled tomorrow and you now need new transportation and you have a loan that insurance almost certainly won't completely cover.)
– chepner
8 hours ago
2
You already have some good answers, but I wanted to address your question of is this actually a LOT of debt... and everyone else has this much debt too? - don't get caught up in comparisons like this - make the plan that's best for you, to achieve what you want to achieve in life. Other people having, or not having, debt shouldn't change that!
– dwizum
8 hours ago
Your rent also sounds absurdly low, which makes me wonder about how that fits into your budget. Is it a rent-controlled apartment (which would imply a city where public transportation might make your car less necessary than you think), or do you have roommates (in which case, how long do you want to continue living with other people out of necessity), or do you live somewhere where your cost of living really is that low?
– chepner
8 hours ago
One website (granted, the first one I stumbled on) suggests 15% of your gross income as the most you should spend on a new car. For perspective, you still owe 44% of your income on your car.
– chepner
8 hours ago
@chepner your link is considering monthly payment, not the value of the car15 percent of gross monthly pay going toward car costs is more the norm, but the amount should not exceed that level.
Considering the indicated net income a "reasonable" car payment would be $440 which is probable given the size of the debt and conservative according to your link's usage of gross income. But this isn't about buying a car, this is about debt repayment, the car and the debt already exist in this scenario.
– quid
3 hours ago
add a comment |
I'm hoping for some advice on which loans I should focus on paying off first.
I'm 28 and just got my first 'real' job about 2 years ago after 8 years of schooling. I've paid off all my credit card debt and can now focus on these loans.
Debt/Loans:
Unsubsidized Student Loans ($9,000)
US $3100 @ 6.55%
US $2200 @ 6.55%
US $2100 @ 6.55%
US $1600 @ 6.55%
Subsidized Student Loans ($12,300)
US $3000 @ 4.25%
US $4600 @ 3.15%
US $4700 @ 3.15%
Auto Loan
US $24,500 @ 5.99%
Income information:
Gross: US $4600/mo
Net Income after retirement, insurances etc.: US $2,930/month
Rent: $675/mo
I'm not looking at a big promotion potential, so working with my income, I know I'll be able to pay these off in the next 5-7 years (as long as I don't decide to have kids anytime soon)- I'm just wondering if someone has some advice on the strategy I should take toward paying these off.
Should I focus on the Auto loan since it's "Bad debt"? or should I focus on the smaller more accomplish-able unsub. student loans one at a time since they have a slightly higher interest rate? Should I save and drop a big chunk of money on student loans or auto loan at one time (e.g. at the end of the year)?
To me this feels like A LOT of debt, perspective would be great - is this actually a LOT of debt or have I just been living the grad student life for too long and everyone else has this much debt too? #millennialdebt
debt student-loan auto-loan payment
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I'm hoping for some advice on which loans I should focus on paying off first.
I'm 28 and just got my first 'real' job about 2 years ago after 8 years of schooling. I've paid off all my credit card debt and can now focus on these loans.
Debt/Loans:
Unsubsidized Student Loans ($9,000)
US $3100 @ 6.55%
US $2200 @ 6.55%
US $2100 @ 6.55%
US $1600 @ 6.55%
Subsidized Student Loans ($12,300)
US $3000 @ 4.25%
US $4600 @ 3.15%
US $4700 @ 3.15%
Auto Loan
US $24,500 @ 5.99%
Income information:
Gross: US $4600/mo
Net Income after retirement, insurances etc.: US $2,930/month
Rent: $675/mo
I'm not looking at a big promotion potential, so working with my income, I know I'll be able to pay these off in the next 5-7 years (as long as I don't decide to have kids anytime soon)- I'm just wondering if someone has some advice on the strategy I should take toward paying these off.
Should I focus on the Auto loan since it's "Bad debt"? or should I focus on the smaller more accomplish-able unsub. student loans one at a time since they have a slightly higher interest rate? Should I save and drop a big chunk of money on student loans or auto loan at one time (e.g. at the end of the year)?
To me this feels like A LOT of debt, perspective would be great - is this actually a LOT of debt or have I just been living the grad student life for too long and everyone else has this much debt too? #millennialdebt
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It is a lot of debt. What are the car payments, and how long until it gets paid off? Any plan you make now should take into account how you will replace it. (Best case, you won't need to until years after it is paid off. Worst case: it gets totaled tomorrow and you now need new transportation and you have a loan that insurance almost certainly won't completely cover.)
– chepner
8 hours ago
2
You already have some good answers, but I wanted to address your question of is this actually a LOT of debt... and everyone else has this much debt too? - don't get caught up in comparisons like this - make the plan that's best for you, to achieve what you want to achieve in life. Other people having, or not having, debt shouldn't change that!
– dwizum
8 hours ago
Your rent also sounds absurdly low, which makes me wonder about how that fits into your budget. Is it a rent-controlled apartment (which would imply a city where public transportation might make your car less necessary than you think), or do you have roommates (in which case, how long do you want to continue living with other people out of necessity), or do you live somewhere where your cost of living really is that low?
– chepner
8 hours ago
One website (granted, the first one I stumbled on) suggests 15% of your gross income as the most you should spend on a new car. For perspective, you still owe 44% of your income on your car.
– chepner
8 hours ago
@chepner your link is considering monthly payment, not the value of the car15 percent of gross monthly pay going toward car costs is more the norm, but the amount should not exceed that level.
Considering the indicated net income a "reasonable" car payment would be $440 which is probable given the size of the debt and conservative according to your link's usage of gross income. But this isn't about buying a car, this is about debt repayment, the car and the debt already exist in this scenario.
– quid
3 hours ago
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It is a lot of debt. What are the car payments, and how long until it gets paid off? Any plan you make now should take into account how you will replace it. (Best case, you won't need to until years after it is paid off. Worst case: it gets totaled tomorrow and you now need new transportation and you have a loan that insurance almost certainly won't completely cover.)
– chepner
8 hours ago
2
You already have some good answers, but I wanted to address your question of is this actually a LOT of debt... and everyone else has this much debt too? - don't get caught up in comparisons like this - make the plan that's best for you, to achieve what you want to achieve in life. Other people having, or not having, debt shouldn't change that!
– dwizum
8 hours ago
Your rent also sounds absurdly low, which makes me wonder about how that fits into your budget. Is it a rent-controlled apartment (which would imply a city where public transportation might make your car less necessary than you think), or do you have roommates (in which case, how long do you want to continue living with other people out of necessity), or do you live somewhere where your cost of living really is that low?
– chepner
8 hours ago
One website (granted, the first one I stumbled on) suggests 15% of your gross income as the most you should spend on a new car. For perspective, you still owe 44% of your income on your car.
– chepner
8 hours ago
@chepner your link is considering monthly payment, not the value of the car15 percent of gross monthly pay going toward car costs is more the norm, but the amount should not exceed that level.
Considering the indicated net income a "reasonable" car payment would be $440 which is probable given the size of the debt and conservative according to your link's usage of gross income. But this isn't about buying a car, this is about debt repayment, the car and the debt already exist in this scenario.
– quid
3 hours ago
It is a lot of debt. What are the car payments, and how long until it gets paid off? Any plan you make now should take into account how you will replace it. (Best case, you won't need to until years after it is paid off. Worst case: it gets totaled tomorrow and you now need new transportation and you have a loan that insurance almost certainly won't completely cover.)
– chepner
8 hours ago
It is a lot of debt. What are the car payments, and how long until it gets paid off? Any plan you make now should take into account how you will replace it. (Best case, you won't need to until years after it is paid off. Worst case: it gets totaled tomorrow and you now need new transportation and you have a loan that insurance almost certainly won't completely cover.)
– chepner
8 hours ago
2
2
You already have some good answers, but I wanted to address your question of is this actually a LOT of debt... and everyone else has this much debt too? - don't get caught up in comparisons like this - make the plan that's best for you, to achieve what you want to achieve in life. Other people having, or not having, debt shouldn't change that!
– dwizum
8 hours ago
You already have some good answers, but I wanted to address your question of is this actually a LOT of debt... and everyone else has this much debt too? - don't get caught up in comparisons like this - make the plan that's best for you, to achieve what you want to achieve in life. Other people having, or not having, debt shouldn't change that!
– dwizum
8 hours ago
Your rent also sounds absurdly low, which makes me wonder about how that fits into your budget. Is it a rent-controlled apartment (which would imply a city where public transportation might make your car less necessary than you think), or do you have roommates (in which case, how long do you want to continue living with other people out of necessity), or do you live somewhere where your cost of living really is that low?
– chepner
8 hours ago
Your rent also sounds absurdly low, which makes me wonder about how that fits into your budget. Is it a rent-controlled apartment (which would imply a city where public transportation might make your car less necessary than you think), or do you have roommates (in which case, how long do you want to continue living with other people out of necessity), or do you live somewhere where your cost of living really is that low?
– chepner
8 hours ago
One website (granted, the first one I stumbled on) suggests 15% of your gross income as the most you should spend on a new car. For perspective, you still owe 44% of your income on your car.
– chepner
8 hours ago
One website (granted, the first one I stumbled on) suggests 15% of your gross income as the most you should spend on a new car. For perspective, you still owe 44% of your income on your car.
– chepner
8 hours ago
@chepner your link is considering monthly payment, not the value of the car
15 percent of gross monthly pay going toward car costs is more the norm, but the amount should not exceed that level.
Considering the indicated net income a "reasonable" car payment would be $440 which is probable given the size of the debt and conservative according to your link's usage of gross income. But this isn't about buying a car, this is about debt repayment, the car and the debt already exist in this scenario.– quid
3 hours ago
@chepner your link is considering monthly payment, not the value of the car
15 percent of gross monthly pay going toward car costs is more the norm, but the amount should not exceed that level.
Considering the indicated net income a "reasonable" car payment would be $440 which is probable given the size of the debt and conservative according to your link's usage of gross income. But this isn't about buying a car, this is about debt repayment, the car and the debt already exist in this scenario.– quid
3 hours ago
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The best approach by the numbers is to pay minimums on everything and put all extra towards the debt with the highest interest rate. So, that would be the unsubsidized loans in any order, then the auto loan, then the subdsidized from high interest rate to low. However, with student loans the interest is deductible. Since the top of your income will likely fall around the 22% bracket (assuming filing single) then your student loans actually cost you less in interest than your car loan. So the car loan should be first to go. There's an income phase-out for this student loan interest deduction but based on the provided details you're currently below the threshold.
What you define as 'all extra' here might also need to change, if you can cut spending you can pay this debt down faster and save a nice chunk of interest. Similarly, retirement investing is great, but with the interest rates you're paying it might make sense to cut back on that for a while. Don't forego an employer 401k match, but any extra you're investing currently might be better spent on debt repayment.
That said, some people prefer to start with the lowest balance debt first. It's not efficient, but for some people it helps psychologically to get something off their books quickly.
One big key to taking this debt repayment and turning it into a healthy financial life in the long-term is to continue to live below your means as your income rises. The temptation many face is increasing spending with every promotion. The car loan is a good example of this, many people buy an expensive new car when they get a job out of school, you might need a car and you might need a car loan to get it, but a less expensive car can save a lot of money in the long-run. As @Pete B. suggests, getting out of that car loan by trading down might be worthwhile.
Edit: Regarding how much debt this really is, it's undoubtedly substantial, but with your income it should be manageable. Learn to love living lean and you'll be out of the woods and piling up money for your future in not much time at all. The best part is that you don't have $25k of credit card debt at 18% interest, your rates and balances are manageable. FWIW I piled up ~$75k in debt from my college years just for a bachelor's due to being wildly irresponsible, it's a distant memory now.
Though don't forget that IRA contributions can be tax-deductible, which might make them more attrartctive than paying down the subsidized student loans. (Indeed, if I had a loan at 3.15%, I'd be making minimum payments while investing money in a good index fund :-))
– jamesqf
6 hours ago
+1 to " Learn to love living lean", aka living below your means.
– RonJohn
4 hours ago
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The good news is that your student loans are lowish and you have low interest rates. The bad news is that your car loans is massive compared to your income. Can you get out of the loan and get something more reasonable?
There are two schools of thought when it comes to paying off debt: debt avalanche and debt snowball. I advocate the latter, but in this case both would agree initially. You should focus on the unsub'd student loans first, smallest to largest. Focus on one loan and make minimum payments on the rest.
You should get on a written budget each and every month in order to maximize your debt repayment. I'd advocate working a side hustle as well bringing in an extra 1K per month greatly reduces the time you have these loans.
Its very doable, and the sooner you get this done the more free you will be. No more debt other than a house. If you are married work together with your spouse.
I would also put retirement savings on pause while you were paying these off. My goal, with your income and a side hustle would be to be done in 18 months. $2100/month gets it done in 22 months, but it will go quicker than that once you start finding efficiencies.
I would not recommend putting your retirement savings completely on pause assuming your employer matches your contributions to some degree. Max out that match percentage at the minimum and then you can consider no additional savings until the debt further paid down.
– Jimmy M.
9 hours ago
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@JimmyM I'd agree if you plan to be in debt for most of your life, as most are. However, if you take a fast track approach better to get it all knocked out of the way. 18 months at the beginning of a career is basically nothing in matches. Its a very small amount that the average US household pays in finance charges each year.
– Pete B.
8 hours ago
I agree with Pete, prioritizing retirement savings in the face of debt is excessive at 28; particularly when your debt to income ratio is the better part of 1. Minimally, I'd knock out the student debt and get the car loan on par with or below the value of the car.
– quid
8 hours ago
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My first thought is to reduce your car expense. I would sell the car for whatever you can get and replace it with a cheap used car so you can focus on your student loans. Unsubsidized first, smallest to largest, then subsidized.
Once you're debt-free you can start saving for a nicer like-new car.
If you can't increase your income from your day job, could you take on a second job part-time?
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The best approach by the numbers is to pay minimums on everything and put all extra towards the debt with the highest interest rate. So, that would be the unsubsidized loans in any order, then the auto loan, then the subdsidized from high interest rate to low. However, with student loans the interest is deductible. Since the top of your income will likely fall around the 22% bracket (assuming filing single) then your student loans actually cost you less in interest than your car loan. So the car loan should be first to go. There's an income phase-out for this student loan interest deduction but based on the provided details you're currently below the threshold.
What you define as 'all extra' here might also need to change, if you can cut spending you can pay this debt down faster and save a nice chunk of interest. Similarly, retirement investing is great, but with the interest rates you're paying it might make sense to cut back on that for a while. Don't forego an employer 401k match, but any extra you're investing currently might be better spent on debt repayment.
That said, some people prefer to start with the lowest balance debt first. It's not efficient, but for some people it helps psychologically to get something off their books quickly.
One big key to taking this debt repayment and turning it into a healthy financial life in the long-term is to continue to live below your means as your income rises. The temptation many face is increasing spending with every promotion. The car loan is a good example of this, many people buy an expensive new car when they get a job out of school, you might need a car and you might need a car loan to get it, but a less expensive car can save a lot of money in the long-run. As @Pete B. suggests, getting out of that car loan by trading down might be worthwhile.
Edit: Regarding how much debt this really is, it's undoubtedly substantial, but with your income it should be manageable. Learn to love living lean and you'll be out of the woods and piling up money for your future in not much time at all. The best part is that you don't have $25k of credit card debt at 18% interest, your rates and balances are manageable. FWIW I piled up ~$75k in debt from my college years just for a bachelor's due to being wildly irresponsible, it's a distant memory now.
Though don't forget that IRA contributions can be tax-deductible, which might make them more attrartctive than paying down the subsidized student loans. (Indeed, if I had a loan at 3.15%, I'd be making minimum payments while investing money in a good index fund :-))
– jamesqf
6 hours ago
+1 to " Learn to love living lean", aka living below your means.
– RonJohn
4 hours ago
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The best approach by the numbers is to pay minimums on everything and put all extra towards the debt with the highest interest rate. So, that would be the unsubsidized loans in any order, then the auto loan, then the subdsidized from high interest rate to low. However, with student loans the interest is deductible. Since the top of your income will likely fall around the 22% bracket (assuming filing single) then your student loans actually cost you less in interest than your car loan. So the car loan should be first to go. There's an income phase-out for this student loan interest deduction but based on the provided details you're currently below the threshold.
What you define as 'all extra' here might also need to change, if you can cut spending you can pay this debt down faster and save a nice chunk of interest. Similarly, retirement investing is great, but with the interest rates you're paying it might make sense to cut back on that for a while. Don't forego an employer 401k match, but any extra you're investing currently might be better spent on debt repayment.
That said, some people prefer to start with the lowest balance debt first. It's not efficient, but for some people it helps psychologically to get something off their books quickly.
One big key to taking this debt repayment and turning it into a healthy financial life in the long-term is to continue to live below your means as your income rises. The temptation many face is increasing spending with every promotion. The car loan is a good example of this, many people buy an expensive new car when they get a job out of school, you might need a car and you might need a car loan to get it, but a less expensive car can save a lot of money in the long-run. As @Pete B. suggests, getting out of that car loan by trading down might be worthwhile.
Edit: Regarding how much debt this really is, it's undoubtedly substantial, but with your income it should be manageable. Learn to love living lean and you'll be out of the woods and piling up money for your future in not much time at all. The best part is that you don't have $25k of credit card debt at 18% interest, your rates and balances are manageable. FWIW I piled up ~$75k in debt from my college years just for a bachelor's due to being wildly irresponsible, it's a distant memory now.
Though don't forget that IRA contributions can be tax-deductible, which might make them more attrartctive than paying down the subsidized student loans. (Indeed, if I had a loan at 3.15%, I'd be making minimum payments while investing money in a good index fund :-))
– jamesqf
6 hours ago
+1 to " Learn to love living lean", aka living below your means.
– RonJohn
4 hours ago
add a comment |
The best approach by the numbers is to pay minimums on everything and put all extra towards the debt with the highest interest rate. So, that would be the unsubsidized loans in any order, then the auto loan, then the subdsidized from high interest rate to low. However, with student loans the interest is deductible. Since the top of your income will likely fall around the 22% bracket (assuming filing single) then your student loans actually cost you less in interest than your car loan. So the car loan should be first to go. There's an income phase-out for this student loan interest deduction but based on the provided details you're currently below the threshold.
What you define as 'all extra' here might also need to change, if you can cut spending you can pay this debt down faster and save a nice chunk of interest. Similarly, retirement investing is great, but with the interest rates you're paying it might make sense to cut back on that for a while. Don't forego an employer 401k match, but any extra you're investing currently might be better spent on debt repayment.
That said, some people prefer to start with the lowest balance debt first. It's not efficient, but for some people it helps psychologically to get something off their books quickly.
One big key to taking this debt repayment and turning it into a healthy financial life in the long-term is to continue to live below your means as your income rises. The temptation many face is increasing spending with every promotion. The car loan is a good example of this, many people buy an expensive new car when they get a job out of school, you might need a car and you might need a car loan to get it, but a less expensive car can save a lot of money in the long-run. As @Pete B. suggests, getting out of that car loan by trading down might be worthwhile.
Edit: Regarding how much debt this really is, it's undoubtedly substantial, but with your income it should be manageable. Learn to love living lean and you'll be out of the woods and piling up money for your future in not much time at all. The best part is that you don't have $25k of credit card debt at 18% interest, your rates and balances are manageable. FWIW I piled up ~$75k in debt from my college years just for a bachelor's due to being wildly irresponsible, it's a distant memory now.
The best approach by the numbers is to pay minimums on everything and put all extra towards the debt with the highest interest rate. So, that would be the unsubsidized loans in any order, then the auto loan, then the subdsidized from high interest rate to low. However, with student loans the interest is deductible. Since the top of your income will likely fall around the 22% bracket (assuming filing single) then your student loans actually cost you less in interest than your car loan. So the car loan should be first to go. There's an income phase-out for this student loan interest deduction but based on the provided details you're currently below the threshold.
What you define as 'all extra' here might also need to change, if you can cut spending you can pay this debt down faster and save a nice chunk of interest. Similarly, retirement investing is great, but with the interest rates you're paying it might make sense to cut back on that for a while. Don't forego an employer 401k match, but any extra you're investing currently might be better spent on debt repayment.
That said, some people prefer to start with the lowest balance debt first. It's not efficient, but for some people it helps psychologically to get something off their books quickly.
One big key to taking this debt repayment and turning it into a healthy financial life in the long-term is to continue to live below your means as your income rises. The temptation many face is increasing spending with every promotion. The car loan is a good example of this, many people buy an expensive new car when they get a job out of school, you might need a car and you might need a car loan to get it, but a less expensive car can save a lot of money in the long-run. As @Pete B. suggests, getting out of that car loan by trading down might be worthwhile.
Edit: Regarding how much debt this really is, it's undoubtedly substantial, but with your income it should be manageable. Learn to love living lean and you'll be out of the woods and piling up money for your future in not much time at all. The best part is that you don't have $25k of credit card debt at 18% interest, your rates and balances are manageable. FWIW I piled up ~$75k in debt from my college years just for a bachelor's due to being wildly irresponsible, it's a distant memory now.
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Though don't forget that IRA contributions can be tax-deductible, which might make them more attrartctive than paying down the subsidized student loans. (Indeed, if I had a loan at 3.15%, I'd be making minimum payments while investing money in a good index fund :-))
– jamesqf
6 hours ago
+1 to " Learn to love living lean", aka living below your means.
– RonJohn
4 hours ago
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Though don't forget that IRA contributions can be tax-deductible, which might make them more attrartctive than paying down the subsidized student loans. (Indeed, if I had a loan at 3.15%, I'd be making minimum payments while investing money in a good index fund :-))
– jamesqf
6 hours ago
+1 to " Learn to love living lean", aka living below your means.
– RonJohn
4 hours ago
Though don't forget that IRA contributions can be tax-deductible, which might make them more attrartctive than paying down the subsidized student loans. (Indeed, if I had a loan at 3.15%, I'd be making minimum payments while investing money in a good index fund :-))
– jamesqf
6 hours ago
Though don't forget that IRA contributions can be tax-deductible, which might make them more attrartctive than paying down the subsidized student loans. (Indeed, if I had a loan at 3.15%, I'd be making minimum payments while investing money in a good index fund :-))
– jamesqf
6 hours ago
+1 to " Learn to love living lean", aka living below your means.
– RonJohn
4 hours ago
+1 to " Learn to love living lean", aka living below your means.
– RonJohn
4 hours ago
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The good news is that your student loans are lowish and you have low interest rates. The bad news is that your car loans is massive compared to your income. Can you get out of the loan and get something more reasonable?
There are two schools of thought when it comes to paying off debt: debt avalanche and debt snowball. I advocate the latter, but in this case both would agree initially. You should focus on the unsub'd student loans first, smallest to largest. Focus on one loan and make minimum payments on the rest.
You should get on a written budget each and every month in order to maximize your debt repayment. I'd advocate working a side hustle as well bringing in an extra 1K per month greatly reduces the time you have these loans.
Its very doable, and the sooner you get this done the more free you will be. No more debt other than a house. If you are married work together with your spouse.
I would also put retirement savings on pause while you were paying these off. My goal, with your income and a side hustle would be to be done in 18 months. $2100/month gets it done in 22 months, but it will go quicker than that once you start finding efficiencies.
I would not recommend putting your retirement savings completely on pause assuming your employer matches your contributions to some degree. Max out that match percentage at the minimum and then you can consider no additional savings until the debt further paid down.
– Jimmy M.
9 hours ago
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@JimmyM I'd agree if you plan to be in debt for most of your life, as most are. However, if you take a fast track approach better to get it all knocked out of the way. 18 months at the beginning of a career is basically nothing in matches. Its a very small amount that the average US household pays in finance charges each year.
– Pete B.
8 hours ago
I agree with Pete, prioritizing retirement savings in the face of debt is excessive at 28; particularly when your debt to income ratio is the better part of 1. Minimally, I'd knock out the student debt and get the car loan on par with or below the value of the car.
– quid
8 hours ago
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The good news is that your student loans are lowish and you have low interest rates. The bad news is that your car loans is massive compared to your income. Can you get out of the loan and get something more reasonable?
There are two schools of thought when it comes to paying off debt: debt avalanche and debt snowball. I advocate the latter, but in this case both would agree initially. You should focus on the unsub'd student loans first, smallest to largest. Focus on one loan and make minimum payments on the rest.
You should get on a written budget each and every month in order to maximize your debt repayment. I'd advocate working a side hustle as well bringing in an extra 1K per month greatly reduces the time you have these loans.
Its very doable, and the sooner you get this done the more free you will be. No more debt other than a house. If you are married work together with your spouse.
I would also put retirement savings on pause while you were paying these off. My goal, with your income and a side hustle would be to be done in 18 months. $2100/month gets it done in 22 months, but it will go quicker than that once you start finding efficiencies.
I would not recommend putting your retirement savings completely on pause assuming your employer matches your contributions to some degree. Max out that match percentage at the minimum and then you can consider no additional savings until the debt further paid down.
– Jimmy M.
9 hours ago
1
@JimmyM I'd agree if you plan to be in debt for most of your life, as most are. However, if you take a fast track approach better to get it all knocked out of the way. 18 months at the beginning of a career is basically nothing in matches. Its a very small amount that the average US household pays in finance charges each year.
– Pete B.
8 hours ago
I agree with Pete, prioritizing retirement savings in the face of debt is excessive at 28; particularly when your debt to income ratio is the better part of 1. Minimally, I'd knock out the student debt and get the car loan on par with or below the value of the car.
– quid
8 hours ago
add a comment |
The good news is that your student loans are lowish and you have low interest rates. The bad news is that your car loans is massive compared to your income. Can you get out of the loan and get something more reasonable?
There are two schools of thought when it comes to paying off debt: debt avalanche and debt snowball. I advocate the latter, but in this case both would agree initially. You should focus on the unsub'd student loans first, smallest to largest. Focus on one loan and make minimum payments on the rest.
You should get on a written budget each and every month in order to maximize your debt repayment. I'd advocate working a side hustle as well bringing in an extra 1K per month greatly reduces the time you have these loans.
Its very doable, and the sooner you get this done the more free you will be. No more debt other than a house. If you are married work together with your spouse.
I would also put retirement savings on pause while you were paying these off. My goal, with your income and a side hustle would be to be done in 18 months. $2100/month gets it done in 22 months, but it will go quicker than that once you start finding efficiencies.
The good news is that your student loans are lowish and you have low interest rates. The bad news is that your car loans is massive compared to your income. Can you get out of the loan and get something more reasonable?
There are two schools of thought when it comes to paying off debt: debt avalanche and debt snowball. I advocate the latter, but in this case both would agree initially. You should focus on the unsub'd student loans first, smallest to largest. Focus on one loan and make minimum payments on the rest.
You should get on a written budget each and every month in order to maximize your debt repayment. I'd advocate working a side hustle as well bringing in an extra 1K per month greatly reduces the time you have these loans.
Its very doable, and the sooner you get this done the more free you will be. No more debt other than a house. If you are married work together with your spouse.
I would also put retirement savings on pause while you were paying these off. My goal, with your income and a side hustle would be to be done in 18 months. $2100/month gets it done in 22 months, but it will go quicker than that once you start finding efficiencies.
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Pete B.Pete B.
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I would not recommend putting your retirement savings completely on pause assuming your employer matches your contributions to some degree. Max out that match percentage at the minimum and then you can consider no additional savings until the debt further paid down.
– Jimmy M.
9 hours ago
1
@JimmyM I'd agree if you plan to be in debt for most of your life, as most are. However, if you take a fast track approach better to get it all knocked out of the way. 18 months at the beginning of a career is basically nothing in matches. Its a very small amount that the average US household pays in finance charges each year.
– Pete B.
8 hours ago
I agree with Pete, prioritizing retirement savings in the face of debt is excessive at 28; particularly when your debt to income ratio is the better part of 1. Minimally, I'd knock out the student debt and get the car loan on par with or below the value of the car.
– quid
8 hours ago
add a comment |
I would not recommend putting your retirement savings completely on pause assuming your employer matches your contributions to some degree. Max out that match percentage at the minimum and then you can consider no additional savings until the debt further paid down.
– Jimmy M.
9 hours ago
1
@JimmyM I'd agree if you plan to be in debt for most of your life, as most are. However, if you take a fast track approach better to get it all knocked out of the way. 18 months at the beginning of a career is basically nothing in matches. Its a very small amount that the average US household pays in finance charges each year.
– Pete B.
8 hours ago
I agree with Pete, prioritizing retirement savings in the face of debt is excessive at 28; particularly when your debt to income ratio is the better part of 1. Minimally, I'd knock out the student debt and get the car loan on par with or below the value of the car.
– quid
8 hours ago
I would not recommend putting your retirement savings completely on pause assuming your employer matches your contributions to some degree. Max out that match percentage at the minimum and then you can consider no additional savings until the debt further paid down.
– Jimmy M.
9 hours ago
I would not recommend putting your retirement savings completely on pause assuming your employer matches your contributions to some degree. Max out that match percentage at the minimum and then you can consider no additional savings until the debt further paid down.
– Jimmy M.
9 hours ago
1
1
@JimmyM I'd agree if you plan to be in debt for most of your life, as most are. However, if you take a fast track approach better to get it all knocked out of the way. 18 months at the beginning of a career is basically nothing in matches. Its a very small amount that the average US household pays in finance charges each year.
– Pete B.
8 hours ago
@JimmyM I'd agree if you plan to be in debt for most of your life, as most are. However, if you take a fast track approach better to get it all knocked out of the way. 18 months at the beginning of a career is basically nothing in matches. Its a very small amount that the average US household pays in finance charges each year.
– Pete B.
8 hours ago
I agree with Pete, prioritizing retirement savings in the face of debt is excessive at 28; particularly when your debt to income ratio is the better part of 1. Minimally, I'd knock out the student debt and get the car loan on par with or below the value of the car.
– quid
8 hours ago
I agree with Pete, prioritizing retirement savings in the face of debt is excessive at 28; particularly when your debt to income ratio is the better part of 1. Minimally, I'd knock out the student debt and get the car loan on par with or below the value of the car.
– quid
8 hours ago
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My first thought is to reduce your car expense. I would sell the car for whatever you can get and replace it with a cheap used car so you can focus on your student loans. Unsubsidized first, smallest to largest, then subsidized.
Once you're debt-free you can start saving for a nicer like-new car.
If you can't increase your income from your day job, could you take on a second job part-time?
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My first thought is to reduce your car expense. I would sell the car for whatever you can get and replace it with a cheap used car so you can focus on your student loans. Unsubsidized first, smallest to largest, then subsidized.
Once you're debt-free you can start saving for a nicer like-new car.
If you can't increase your income from your day job, could you take on a second job part-time?
New contributor
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My first thought is to reduce your car expense. I would sell the car for whatever you can get and replace it with a cheap used car so you can focus on your student loans. Unsubsidized first, smallest to largest, then subsidized.
Once you're debt-free you can start saving for a nicer like-new car.
If you can't increase your income from your day job, could you take on a second job part-time?
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My first thought is to reduce your car expense. I would sell the car for whatever you can get and replace it with a cheap used car so you can focus on your student loans. Unsubsidized first, smallest to largest, then subsidized.
Once you're debt-free you can start saving for a nicer like-new car.
If you can't increase your income from your day job, could you take on a second job part-time?
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It is a lot of debt. What are the car payments, and how long until it gets paid off? Any plan you make now should take into account how you will replace it. (Best case, you won't need to until years after it is paid off. Worst case: it gets totaled tomorrow and you now need new transportation and you have a loan that insurance almost certainly won't completely cover.)
– chepner
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You already have some good answers, but I wanted to address your question of is this actually a LOT of debt... and everyone else has this much debt too? - don't get caught up in comparisons like this - make the plan that's best for you, to achieve what you want to achieve in life. Other people having, or not having, debt shouldn't change that!
– dwizum
8 hours ago
Your rent also sounds absurdly low, which makes me wonder about how that fits into your budget. Is it a rent-controlled apartment (which would imply a city where public transportation might make your car less necessary than you think), or do you have roommates (in which case, how long do you want to continue living with other people out of necessity), or do you live somewhere where your cost of living really is that low?
– chepner
8 hours ago
One website (granted, the first one I stumbled on) suggests 15% of your gross income as the most you should spend on a new car. For perspective, you still owe 44% of your income on your car.
– chepner
8 hours ago
@chepner your link is considering monthly payment, not the value of the car
15 percent of gross monthly pay going toward car costs is more the norm, but the amount should not exceed that level.
Considering the indicated net income a "reasonable" car payment would be $440 which is probable given the size of the debt and conservative according to your link's usage of gross income. But this isn't about buying a car, this is about debt repayment, the car and the debt already exist in this scenario.– quid
3 hours ago