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Identification of an AC transformer


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I have a broken Philips alarm clock FM/AM radio broken, so I stripped some parts out of it.



One of it seems like an AC converter, but I cannot find any reference/datasheet about it. Do you have any information about this? (or what the meaning of the yellow/green wires are, I assume the black is GND and Red is VCC).



The dimensions of the yellow 'block' are 35.3mm x 29.7mm x 11.6mm.



The text is:



SIL35T0000095
3004


So all wires going out of this transformer and I would like to know the meaning of the yellow and green wires:




  • Blue wire (on the top back), going into the black cable you can see on the right page, it's going to the AC mains power plug (220V).

  • Brown wire (on the top back), going into the black cable you can see on the right page, it's going to the AC mains power plug (220V).

  • Green wire: What is the meaning of this wire?


  • Yellow wire: What is the meaning of this wire?


  • Red wire: I assume this is output? (AC/DC?)

  • Black wire: I assume this is ground


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    Identify it? Yep, it looks like a transformer.
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    – laptop2d
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    @laptop2d I mean, is there any datasheet, or if not, what is the meaning of the yellow/green wire?
    $endgroup$
    – Michel Keijzers
    10 hours ago






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    AC to DC transformers don't exist, only AC to AC.
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    – Huisman
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    @Huisman Ok ... than it's probably an AC to AC transformer (since the input is an (220V) AC.
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    – Michel Keijzers
    9 hours ago






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    You probably won't find a datasheet as the transformer itself quite likely is not a consumer part.
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I have a broken Philips alarm clock FM/AM radio broken, so I stripped some parts out of it.



One of it seems like an AC converter, but I cannot find any reference/datasheet about it. Do you have any information about this? (or what the meaning of the yellow/green wires are, I assume the black is GND and Red is VCC).



The dimensions of the yellow 'block' are 35.3mm x 29.7mm x 11.6mm.



The text is:



SIL35T0000095
3004


So all wires going out of this transformer and I would like to know the meaning of the yellow and green wires:




  • Blue wire (on the top back), going into the black cable you can see on the right page, it's going to the AC mains power plug (220V).

  • Brown wire (on the top back), going into the black cable you can see on the right page, it's going to the AC mains power plug (220V).

  • Green wire: What is the meaning of this wire?


  • Yellow wire: What is the meaning of this wire?


  • Red wire: I assume this is output? (AC/DC?)

  • Black wire: I assume this is ground


enter image description here










share|improve this question











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  • 7




    $begingroup$
    Identify it? Yep, it looks like a transformer.
    $endgroup$
    – laptop2d
    10 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @laptop2d I mean, is there any datasheet, or if not, what is the meaning of the yellow/green wire?
    $endgroup$
    – Michel Keijzers
    10 hours ago






  • 4




    $begingroup$
    AC to DC transformers don't exist, only AC to AC.
    $endgroup$
    – Huisman
    9 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @Huisman Ok ... than it's probably an AC to AC transformer (since the input is an (220V) AC.
    $endgroup$
    – Michel Keijzers
    9 hours ago






  • 4




    $begingroup$
    You probably won't find a datasheet as the transformer itself quite likely is not a consumer part.
    $endgroup$
    – Huisman
    9 hours ago














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I have a broken Philips alarm clock FM/AM radio broken, so I stripped some parts out of it.



One of it seems like an AC converter, but I cannot find any reference/datasheet about it. Do you have any information about this? (or what the meaning of the yellow/green wires are, I assume the black is GND and Red is VCC).



The dimensions of the yellow 'block' are 35.3mm x 29.7mm x 11.6mm.



The text is:



SIL35T0000095
3004


So all wires going out of this transformer and I would like to know the meaning of the yellow and green wires:




  • Blue wire (on the top back), going into the black cable you can see on the right page, it's going to the AC mains power plug (220V).

  • Brown wire (on the top back), going into the black cable you can see on the right page, it's going to the AC mains power plug (220V).

  • Green wire: What is the meaning of this wire?


  • Yellow wire: What is the meaning of this wire?


  • Red wire: I assume this is output? (AC/DC?)

  • Black wire: I assume this is ground


enter image description here










share|improve this question











$endgroup$




I have a broken Philips alarm clock FM/AM radio broken, so I stripped some parts out of it.



One of it seems like an AC converter, but I cannot find any reference/datasheet about it. Do you have any information about this? (or what the meaning of the yellow/green wires are, I assume the black is GND and Red is VCC).



The dimensions of the yellow 'block' are 35.3mm x 29.7mm x 11.6mm.



The text is:



SIL35T0000095
3004


So all wires going out of this transformer and I would like to know the meaning of the yellow and green wires:




  • Blue wire (on the top back), going into the black cable you can see on the right page, it's going to the AC mains power plug (220V).

  • Brown wire (on the top back), going into the black cable you can see on the right page, it's going to the AC mains power plug (220V).

  • Green wire: What is the meaning of this wire?


  • Yellow wire: What is the meaning of this wire?


  • Red wire: I assume this is output? (AC/DC?)

  • Black wire: I assume this is ground


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  • 7




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    Identify it? Yep, it looks like a transformer.
    $endgroup$
    – laptop2d
    10 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @laptop2d I mean, is there any datasheet, or if not, what is the meaning of the yellow/green wire?
    $endgroup$
    – Michel Keijzers
    10 hours ago






  • 4




    $begingroup$
    AC to DC transformers don't exist, only AC to AC.
    $endgroup$
    – Huisman
    9 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @Huisman Ok ... than it's probably an AC to AC transformer (since the input is an (220V) AC.
    $endgroup$
    – Michel Keijzers
    9 hours ago






  • 4




    $begingroup$
    You probably won't find a datasheet as the transformer itself quite likely is not a consumer part.
    $endgroup$
    – Huisman
    9 hours ago














  • 7




    $begingroup$
    Identify it? Yep, it looks like a transformer.
    $endgroup$
    – laptop2d
    10 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @laptop2d I mean, is there any datasheet, or if not, what is the meaning of the yellow/green wire?
    $endgroup$
    – Michel Keijzers
    10 hours ago






  • 4




    $begingroup$
    AC to DC transformers don't exist, only AC to AC.
    $endgroup$
    – Huisman
    9 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @Huisman Ok ... than it's probably an AC to AC transformer (since the input is an (220V) AC.
    $endgroup$
    – Michel Keijzers
    9 hours ago






  • 4




    $begingroup$
    You probably won't find a datasheet as the transformer itself quite likely is not a consumer part.
    $endgroup$
    – Huisman
    9 hours ago








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Identify it? Yep, it looks like a transformer.
$endgroup$
– laptop2d
10 hours ago




$begingroup$
Identify it? Yep, it looks like a transformer.
$endgroup$
– laptop2d
10 hours ago












$begingroup$
@laptop2d I mean, is there any datasheet, or if not, what is the meaning of the yellow/green wire?
$endgroup$
– Michel Keijzers
10 hours ago




$begingroup$
@laptop2d I mean, is there any datasheet, or if not, what is the meaning of the yellow/green wire?
$endgroup$
– Michel Keijzers
10 hours ago




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$begingroup$
AC to DC transformers don't exist, only AC to AC.
$endgroup$
– Huisman
9 hours ago




$begingroup$
AC to DC transformers don't exist, only AC to AC.
$endgroup$
– Huisman
9 hours ago












$begingroup$
@Huisman Ok ... than it's probably an AC to AC transformer (since the input is an (220V) AC.
$endgroup$
– Michel Keijzers
9 hours ago




$begingroup$
@Huisman Ok ... than it's probably an AC to AC transformer (since the input is an (220V) AC.
$endgroup$
– Michel Keijzers
9 hours ago




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4




$begingroup$
You probably won't find a datasheet as the transformer itself quite likely is not a consumer part.
$endgroup$
– Huisman
9 hours ago




$begingroup$
You probably won't find a datasheet as the transformer itself quite likely is not a consumer part.
$endgroup$
– Huisman
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It's an AC/AC transformer, the rectifier was probably on the red/black lines. Usually YellowGreen lines are for AC mains (according to international standards, but it also depends on the age of the device).



Your best bet is to hook up a signal generator, and see what the step down ratio is if you want to use it.



The other thing that will be of use is any markings on the outside of the clock that specify the current and voltage (you need the current) because that will give you a good idea of the saturation point of the transformer and how much power can be run through it.






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    Thanks ... There are two other wires going to AC mains (so there are 4 wires (green/yellow/white/red) PLUS the main cable (on the right of the picture). To be honest, I never used a transformer, and I don't know what a step down ration is, or the saturation point ... but I will check it (I also could get a clue on the plastic box of the clock probably).
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    – Michel Keijzers
    9 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Btw ... I do not have a signal generator, but it seems there are too many variables/properties anyway that I can make use of it probably.
    $endgroup$
    – Michel Keijzers
    9 hours ago






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    Or, if your careful, you could use AC mains itself, the transformer should be isolated also, and you could use a DMM or scope to see what the voltage is. If measuring from primary to secondary, you should get close to an open circuit with a DMM
    $endgroup$
    – laptop2d
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    The primary is going to be yellow/green. The secondary is red/black. Every transformer has a primary and a secondary, they do not pass (or should not) pass DC
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    – laptop2d
    8 hours ago






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    @laptop2d - Hi, Re your comment that: "The primary is going to be yellow/green." That doesn't seem correct, because in a comment above, the OP said: "there are 4 wires (green/yellow/white/red) PLUS the main cable (on the right of the picture)" (the OP means black /red, not white/red) so the yellow/green aren't the primary - the wires we can't see on the other side of the transformer, going to the black mains cable on the right of the photo, are the primary. Yes?
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You probably won't find a datasheet as the transformer itself quite likely is not a consumer part but a Philips internal design, tailered to this specific product (alarm clock FM/AM radio) and to mass production.



I wouldn't bother investigating it, but just buy a transformer that fits your need, made by a reliable manufacturer with a well defined datasheet. They're not that expensive...






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    Thanks ... I was just 'hoping' it would be some very generic item that I always could use when I would need some AC transformation.
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It's a transformer. It outputs lower-voltage AC on the secondary wires.



As you surmised, the red/yellow/green/black are secondary windings and the blue/brown are primary going to the mains voltage. You have that figured out so far. Now the next step is to figure out how the secondary windings are connected and what their outputs are to see if they're useful (they very probably are.)



The 'safe' way: Use an ohmmeter to determine which coils connect to which, and how they relate to each other. Determine this by seeing the relative series resistance between each wire. You may find that there are two separate coils, or that they're a single coil with multiple taps. More about this in a bit.



The 'fun' way: test it. Connect AC up to the primary and use the voltmeter to measure the secondary AC voltages, wire-to-wire, to figure this out. Do this with care obviously, though the secondaries are low enough voltage that you're not at significant risk for shock.



"More about this". If this unit came from a VF (vacuum fluorescent) type clock, my guess is that it has two separate windings: one for 3VAC for VF tube filament, and the other 7~9VAC for logic power which would have fed to a full-wave bridge on the board (maybe you can check this if you still have the board.)



If I had to wager further, the logic power pair would be the black and red pair.






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    It's an AC/AC transformer, the rectifier was probably on the red/black lines. Usually YellowGreen lines are for AC mains (according to international standards, but it also depends on the age of the device).



    Your best bet is to hook up a signal generator, and see what the step down ratio is if you want to use it.



    The other thing that will be of use is any markings on the outside of the clock that specify the current and voltage (you need the current) because that will give you a good idea of the saturation point of the transformer and how much power can be run through it.






    share|improve this answer











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    • $begingroup$
      Thanks ... There are two other wires going to AC mains (so there are 4 wires (green/yellow/white/red) PLUS the main cable (on the right of the picture). To be honest, I never used a transformer, and I don't know what a step down ration is, or the saturation point ... but I will check it (I also could get a clue on the plastic box of the clock probably).
      $endgroup$
      – Michel Keijzers
      9 hours ago










    • $begingroup$
      Btw ... I do not have a signal generator, but it seems there are too many variables/properties anyway that I can make use of it probably.
      $endgroup$
      – Michel Keijzers
      9 hours ago






    • 1




      $begingroup$
      Or, if your careful, you could use AC mains itself, the transformer should be isolated also, and you could use a DMM or scope to see what the voltage is. If measuring from primary to secondary, you should get close to an open circuit with a DMM
      $endgroup$
      – laptop2d
      8 hours ago








    • 1




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      The primary is going to be yellow/green. The secondary is red/black. Every transformer has a primary and a secondary, they do not pass (or should not) pass DC
      $endgroup$
      – laptop2d
      8 hours ago






    • 1




      $begingroup$
      @laptop2d - Hi, Re your comment that: "The primary is going to be yellow/green." That doesn't seem correct, because in a comment above, the OP said: "there are 4 wires (green/yellow/white/red) PLUS the main cable (on the right of the picture)" (the OP means black /red, not white/red) so the yellow/green aren't the primary - the wires we can't see on the other side of the transformer, going to the black mains cable on the right of the photo, are the primary. Yes?
      $endgroup$
      – SamGibson
      7 hours ago


















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    It's an AC/AC transformer, the rectifier was probably on the red/black lines. Usually YellowGreen lines are for AC mains (according to international standards, but it also depends on the age of the device).



    Your best bet is to hook up a signal generator, and see what the step down ratio is if you want to use it.



    The other thing that will be of use is any markings on the outside of the clock that specify the current and voltage (you need the current) because that will give you a good idea of the saturation point of the transformer and how much power can be run through it.






    share|improve this answer











    $endgroup$













    • $begingroup$
      Thanks ... There are two other wires going to AC mains (so there are 4 wires (green/yellow/white/red) PLUS the main cable (on the right of the picture). To be honest, I never used a transformer, and I don't know what a step down ration is, or the saturation point ... but I will check it (I also could get a clue on the plastic box of the clock probably).
      $endgroup$
      – Michel Keijzers
      9 hours ago










    • $begingroup$
      Btw ... I do not have a signal generator, but it seems there are too many variables/properties anyway that I can make use of it probably.
      $endgroup$
      – Michel Keijzers
      9 hours ago






    • 1




      $begingroup$
      Or, if your careful, you could use AC mains itself, the transformer should be isolated also, and you could use a DMM or scope to see what the voltage is. If measuring from primary to secondary, you should get close to an open circuit with a DMM
      $endgroup$
      – laptop2d
      8 hours ago








    • 1




      $begingroup$
      The primary is going to be yellow/green. The secondary is red/black. Every transformer has a primary and a secondary, they do not pass (or should not) pass DC
      $endgroup$
      – laptop2d
      8 hours ago






    • 1




      $begingroup$
      @laptop2d - Hi, Re your comment that: "The primary is going to be yellow/green." That doesn't seem correct, because in a comment above, the OP said: "there are 4 wires (green/yellow/white/red) PLUS the main cable (on the right of the picture)" (the OP means black /red, not white/red) so the yellow/green aren't the primary - the wires we can't see on the other side of the transformer, going to the black mains cable on the right of the photo, are the primary. Yes?
      $endgroup$
      – SamGibson
      7 hours ago
















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    It's an AC/AC transformer, the rectifier was probably on the red/black lines. Usually YellowGreen lines are for AC mains (according to international standards, but it also depends on the age of the device).



    Your best bet is to hook up a signal generator, and see what the step down ratio is if you want to use it.



    The other thing that will be of use is any markings on the outside of the clock that specify the current and voltage (you need the current) because that will give you a good idea of the saturation point of the transformer and how much power can be run through it.






    share|improve this answer











    $endgroup$



    It's an AC/AC transformer, the rectifier was probably on the red/black lines. Usually YellowGreen lines are for AC mains (according to international standards, but it also depends on the age of the device).



    Your best bet is to hook up a signal generator, and see what the step down ratio is if you want to use it.



    The other thing that will be of use is any markings on the outside of the clock that specify the current and voltage (you need the current) because that will give you a good idea of the saturation point of the transformer and how much power can be run through it.







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    • $begingroup$
      Thanks ... There are two other wires going to AC mains (so there are 4 wires (green/yellow/white/red) PLUS the main cable (on the right of the picture). To be honest, I never used a transformer, and I don't know what a step down ration is, or the saturation point ... but I will check it (I also could get a clue on the plastic box of the clock probably).
      $endgroup$
      – Michel Keijzers
      9 hours ago










    • $begingroup$
      Btw ... I do not have a signal generator, but it seems there are too many variables/properties anyway that I can make use of it probably.
      $endgroup$
      – Michel Keijzers
      9 hours ago






    • 1




      $begingroup$
      Or, if your careful, you could use AC mains itself, the transformer should be isolated also, and you could use a DMM or scope to see what the voltage is. If measuring from primary to secondary, you should get close to an open circuit with a DMM
      $endgroup$
      – laptop2d
      8 hours ago








    • 1




      $begingroup$
      The primary is going to be yellow/green. The secondary is red/black. Every transformer has a primary and a secondary, they do not pass (or should not) pass DC
      $endgroup$
      – laptop2d
      8 hours ago






    • 1




      $begingroup$
      @laptop2d - Hi, Re your comment that: "The primary is going to be yellow/green." That doesn't seem correct, because in a comment above, the OP said: "there are 4 wires (green/yellow/white/red) PLUS the main cable (on the right of the picture)" (the OP means black /red, not white/red) so the yellow/green aren't the primary - the wires we can't see on the other side of the transformer, going to the black mains cable on the right of the photo, are the primary. Yes?
      $endgroup$
      – SamGibson
      7 hours ago




















    • $begingroup$
      Thanks ... There are two other wires going to AC mains (so there are 4 wires (green/yellow/white/red) PLUS the main cable (on the right of the picture). To be honest, I never used a transformer, and I don't know what a step down ration is, or the saturation point ... but I will check it (I also could get a clue on the plastic box of the clock probably).
      $endgroup$
      – Michel Keijzers
      9 hours ago










    • $begingroup$
      Btw ... I do not have a signal generator, but it seems there are too many variables/properties anyway that I can make use of it probably.
      $endgroup$
      – Michel Keijzers
      9 hours ago






    • 1




      $begingroup$
      Or, if your careful, you could use AC mains itself, the transformer should be isolated also, and you could use a DMM or scope to see what the voltage is. If measuring from primary to secondary, you should get close to an open circuit with a DMM
      $endgroup$
      – laptop2d
      8 hours ago








    • 1




      $begingroup$
      The primary is going to be yellow/green. The secondary is red/black. Every transformer has a primary and a secondary, they do not pass (or should not) pass DC
      $endgroup$
      – laptop2d
      8 hours ago






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      @laptop2d - Hi, Re your comment that: "The primary is going to be yellow/green." That doesn't seem correct, because in a comment above, the OP said: "there are 4 wires (green/yellow/white/red) PLUS the main cable (on the right of the picture)" (the OP means black /red, not white/red) so the yellow/green aren't the primary - the wires we can't see on the other side of the transformer, going to the black mains cable on the right of the photo, are the primary. Yes?
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    Thanks ... There are two other wires going to AC mains (so there are 4 wires (green/yellow/white/red) PLUS the main cable (on the right of the picture). To be honest, I never used a transformer, and I don't know what a step down ration is, or the saturation point ... but I will check it (I also could get a clue on the plastic box of the clock probably).
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    – Michel Keijzers
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    Thanks ... There are two other wires going to AC mains (so there are 4 wires (green/yellow/white/red) PLUS the main cable (on the right of the picture). To be honest, I never used a transformer, and I don't know what a step down ration is, or the saturation point ... but I will check it (I also could get a clue on the plastic box of the clock probably).
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    Btw ... I do not have a signal generator, but it seems there are too many variables/properties anyway that I can make use of it probably.
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    – Michel Keijzers
    9 hours ago




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    Btw ... I do not have a signal generator, but it seems there are too many variables/properties anyway that I can make use of it probably.
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    – Michel Keijzers
    9 hours ago




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    Or, if your careful, you could use AC mains itself, the transformer should be isolated also, and you could use a DMM or scope to see what the voltage is. If measuring from primary to secondary, you should get close to an open circuit with a DMM
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    – laptop2d
    8 hours ago






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    Or, if your careful, you could use AC mains itself, the transformer should be isolated also, and you could use a DMM or scope to see what the voltage is. If measuring from primary to secondary, you should get close to an open circuit with a DMM
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    – laptop2d
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    The primary is going to be yellow/green. The secondary is red/black. Every transformer has a primary and a secondary, they do not pass (or should not) pass DC
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    The primary is going to be yellow/green. The secondary is red/black. Every transformer has a primary and a secondary, they do not pass (or should not) pass DC
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    – laptop2d
    8 hours ago




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    @laptop2d - Hi, Re your comment that: "The primary is going to be yellow/green." That doesn't seem correct, because in a comment above, the OP said: "there are 4 wires (green/yellow/white/red) PLUS the main cable (on the right of the picture)" (the OP means black /red, not white/red) so the yellow/green aren't the primary - the wires we can't see on the other side of the transformer, going to the black mains cable on the right of the photo, are the primary. Yes?
    $endgroup$
    – SamGibson
    7 hours ago






    $begingroup$
    @laptop2d - Hi, Re your comment that: "The primary is going to be yellow/green." That doesn't seem correct, because in a comment above, the OP said: "there are 4 wires (green/yellow/white/red) PLUS the main cable (on the right of the picture)" (the OP means black /red, not white/red) so the yellow/green aren't the primary - the wires we can't see on the other side of the transformer, going to the black mains cable on the right of the photo, are the primary. Yes?
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    You probably won't find a datasheet as the transformer itself quite likely is not a consumer part but a Philips internal design, tailered to this specific product (alarm clock FM/AM radio) and to mass production.



    I wouldn't bother investigating it, but just buy a transformer that fits your need, made by a reliable manufacturer with a well defined datasheet. They're not that expensive...






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      Thanks ... I was just 'hoping' it would be some very generic item that I always could use when I would need some AC transformation.
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      – Michel Keijzers
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    You probably won't find a datasheet as the transformer itself quite likely is not a consumer part but a Philips internal design, tailered to this specific product (alarm clock FM/AM radio) and to mass production.



    I wouldn't bother investigating it, but just buy a transformer that fits your need, made by a reliable manufacturer with a well defined datasheet. They're not that expensive...






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    • $begingroup$
      Thanks ... I was just 'hoping' it would be some very generic item that I always could use when I would need some AC transformation.
      $endgroup$
      – Michel Keijzers
      9 hours ago














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    $begingroup$

    You probably won't find a datasheet as the transformer itself quite likely is not a consumer part but a Philips internal design, tailered to this specific product (alarm clock FM/AM radio) and to mass production.



    I wouldn't bother investigating it, but just buy a transformer that fits your need, made by a reliable manufacturer with a well defined datasheet. They're not that expensive...






    share|improve this answer









    $endgroup$



    You probably won't find a datasheet as the transformer itself quite likely is not a consumer part but a Philips internal design, tailered to this specific product (alarm clock FM/AM radio) and to mass production.



    I wouldn't bother investigating it, but just buy a transformer that fits your need, made by a reliable manufacturer with a well defined datasheet. They're not that expensive...







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    • $begingroup$
      Thanks ... I was just 'hoping' it would be some very generic item that I always could use when I would need some AC transformation.
      $endgroup$
      – Michel Keijzers
      9 hours ago


















    • $begingroup$
      Thanks ... I was just 'hoping' it would be some very generic item that I always could use when I would need some AC transformation.
      $endgroup$
      – Michel Keijzers
      9 hours ago
















    $begingroup$
    Thanks ... I was just 'hoping' it would be some very generic item that I always could use when I would need some AC transformation.
    $endgroup$
    – Michel Keijzers
    9 hours ago




    $begingroup$
    Thanks ... I was just 'hoping' it would be some very generic item that I always could use when I would need some AC transformation.
    $endgroup$
    – Michel Keijzers
    9 hours ago











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    It's a transformer. It outputs lower-voltage AC on the secondary wires.



    As you surmised, the red/yellow/green/black are secondary windings and the blue/brown are primary going to the mains voltage. You have that figured out so far. Now the next step is to figure out how the secondary windings are connected and what their outputs are to see if they're useful (they very probably are.)



    The 'safe' way: Use an ohmmeter to determine which coils connect to which, and how they relate to each other. Determine this by seeing the relative series resistance between each wire. You may find that there are two separate coils, or that they're a single coil with multiple taps. More about this in a bit.



    The 'fun' way: test it. Connect AC up to the primary and use the voltmeter to measure the secondary AC voltages, wire-to-wire, to figure this out. Do this with care obviously, though the secondaries are low enough voltage that you're not at significant risk for shock.



    "More about this". If this unit came from a VF (vacuum fluorescent) type clock, my guess is that it has two separate windings: one for 3VAC for VF tube filament, and the other 7~9VAC for logic power which would have fed to a full-wave bridge on the board (maybe you can check this if you still have the board.)



    If I had to wager further, the logic power pair would be the black and red pair.






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      It's a transformer. It outputs lower-voltage AC on the secondary wires.



      As you surmised, the red/yellow/green/black are secondary windings and the blue/brown are primary going to the mains voltage. You have that figured out so far. Now the next step is to figure out how the secondary windings are connected and what their outputs are to see if they're useful (they very probably are.)



      The 'safe' way: Use an ohmmeter to determine which coils connect to which, and how they relate to each other. Determine this by seeing the relative series resistance between each wire. You may find that there are two separate coils, or that they're a single coil with multiple taps. More about this in a bit.



      The 'fun' way: test it. Connect AC up to the primary and use the voltmeter to measure the secondary AC voltages, wire-to-wire, to figure this out. Do this with care obviously, though the secondaries are low enough voltage that you're not at significant risk for shock.



      "More about this". If this unit came from a VF (vacuum fluorescent) type clock, my guess is that it has two separate windings: one for 3VAC for VF tube filament, and the other 7~9VAC for logic power which would have fed to a full-wave bridge on the board (maybe you can check this if you still have the board.)



      If I had to wager further, the logic power pair would be the black and red pair.






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        $begingroup$

        It's a transformer. It outputs lower-voltage AC on the secondary wires.



        As you surmised, the red/yellow/green/black are secondary windings and the blue/brown are primary going to the mains voltage. You have that figured out so far. Now the next step is to figure out how the secondary windings are connected and what their outputs are to see if they're useful (they very probably are.)



        The 'safe' way: Use an ohmmeter to determine which coils connect to which, and how they relate to each other. Determine this by seeing the relative series resistance between each wire. You may find that there are two separate coils, or that they're a single coil with multiple taps. More about this in a bit.



        The 'fun' way: test it. Connect AC up to the primary and use the voltmeter to measure the secondary AC voltages, wire-to-wire, to figure this out. Do this with care obviously, though the secondaries are low enough voltage that you're not at significant risk for shock.



        "More about this". If this unit came from a VF (vacuum fluorescent) type clock, my guess is that it has two separate windings: one for 3VAC for VF tube filament, and the other 7~9VAC for logic power which would have fed to a full-wave bridge on the board (maybe you can check this if you still have the board.)



        If I had to wager further, the logic power pair would be the black and red pair.






        share|improve this answer











        $endgroup$



        It's a transformer. It outputs lower-voltage AC on the secondary wires.



        As you surmised, the red/yellow/green/black are secondary windings and the blue/brown are primary going to the mains voltage. You have that figured out so far. Now the next step is to figure out how the secondary windings are connected and what their outputs are to see if they're useful (they very probably are.)



        The 'safe' way: Use an ohmmeter to determine which coils connect to which, and how they relate to each other. Determine this by seeing the relative series resistance between each wire. You may find that there are two separate coils, or that they're a single coil with multiple taps. More about this in a bit.



        The 'fun' way: test it. Connect AC up to the primary and use the voltmeter to measure the secondary AC voltages, wire-to-wire, to figure this out. Do this with care obviously, though the secondaries are low enough voltage that you're not at significant risk for shock.



        "More about this". If this unit came from a VF (vacuum fluorescent) type clock, my guess is that it has two separate windings: one for 3VAC for VF tube filament, and the other 7~9VAC for logic power which would have fed to a full-wave bridge on the board (maybe you can check this if you still have the board.)



        If I had to wager further, the logic power pair would be the black and red pair.







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