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I'm currently running a campaign with a fairly typical group of 4 players. Everyone gets along pretty well, however one of my player's Rogue has been struggling to find his niche in the party. To remedy this I had an NPC secretly give him a thief/spy "quest" for him to complete with or without help from the others.



The player took to this pretty wholeheartedly and has come up with an elaborate plan that he intends to execute alone while the other PCs sleep. He also wants the quest to remain secret from the PCs. I'm excited by the prospect of him finally having a unique role, and I think that there will be some interesting encounters, however I'm worried that it'll be boring for the other players to watch him play out his plan over the course of an hour or so.



Would it be appropriate for me to run a one-on-one session, just me and the Rogue?



I'm just worried that a) the other players will feel neglected and b) that they'll feel blindsided by any potential impact this quest has on the campaign's progression.










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    Is there any reason for the other party members to be in the session? Usually a 1 on 1 sessions that I've DMed have been just with the person in question.
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    Can you clarify what you mean by if you can? Clearly you can, there's nobody stopping you. If you're wondering if your players are going to be OK with that there's no point asking us, you have primary sources for that.
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I'm currently running a campaign with a fairly typical group of 4 players. Everyone gets along pretty well, however one of my player's Rogue has been struggling to find his niche in the party. To remedy this I had an NPC secretly give him a thief/spy "quest" for him to complete with or without help from the others.



The player took to this pretty wholeheartedly and has come up with an elaborate plan that he intends to execute alone while the other PCs sleep. He also wants the quest to remain secret from the PCs. I'm excited by the prospect of him finally having a unique role, and I think that there will be some interesting encounters, however I'm worried that it'll be boring for the other players to watch him play out his plan over the course of an hour or so.



Would it be appropriate for me to run a one-on-one session, just me and the Rogue?



I'm just worried that a) the other players will feel neglected and b) that they'll feel blindsided by any potential impact this quest has on the campaign's progression.










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    Is there any reason for the other party members to be in the session? Usually a 1 on 1 sessions that I've DMed have been just with the person in question.
    $endgroup$
    – Chepelink
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    Can you clarify what you mean by if you can? Clearly you can, there's nobody stopping you. If you're wondering if your players are going to be OK with that there's no point asking us, you have primary sources for that.
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I'm currently running a campaign with a fairly typical group of 4 players. Everyone gets along pretty well, however one of my player's Rogue has been struggling to find his niche in the party. To remedy this I had an NPC secretly give him a thief/spy "quest" for him to complete with or without help from the others.



The player took to this pretty wholeheartedly and has come up with an elaborate plan that he intends to execute alone while the other PCs sleep. He also wants the quest to remain secret from the PCs. I'm excited by the prospect of him finally having a unique role, and I think that there will be some interesting encounters, however I'm worried that it'll be boring for the other players to watch him play out his plan over the course of an hour or so.



Would it be appropriate for me to run a one-on-one session, just me and the Rogue?



I'm just worried that a) the other players will feel neglected and b) that they'll feel blindsided by any potential impact this quest has on the campaign's progression.










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I'm currently running a campaign with a fairly typical group of 4 players. Everyone gets along pretty well, however one of my player's Rogue has been struggling to find his niche in the party. To remedy this I had an NPC secretly give him a thief/spy "quest" for him to complete with or without help from the others.



The player took to this pretty wholeheartedly and has come up with an elaborate plan that he intends to execute alone while the other PCs sleep. He also wants the quest to remain secret from the PCs. I'm excited by the prospect of him finally having a unique role, and I think that there will be some interesting encounters, however I'm worried that it'll be boring for the other players to watch him play out his plan over the course of an hour or so.



Would it be appropriate for me to run a one-on-one session, just me and the Rogue?



I'm just worried that a) the other players will feel neglected and b) that they'll feel blindsided by any potential impact this quest has on the campaign's progression.







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  • $begingroup$
    Is there any reason for the other party members to be in the session? Usually a 1 on 1 sessions that I've DMed have been just with the person in question.
    $endgroup$
    – Chepelink
    8 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Can you clarify what you mean by if you can? Clearly you can, there's nobody stopping you. If you're wondering if your players are going to be OK with that there's no point asking us, you have primary sources for that.
    $endgroup$
    – Cubic
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  • $begingroup$
    Is there any reason for the other party members to be in the session? Usually a 1 on 1 sessions that I've DMed have been just with the person in question.
    $endgroup$
    – Chepelink
    8 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Can you clarify what you mean by if you can? Clearly you can, there's nobody stopping you. If you're wondering if your players are going to be OK with that there's no point asking us, you have primary sources for that.
    $endgroup$
    – Cubic
    8 hours ago
















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Is there any reason for the other party members to be in the session? Usually a 1 on 1 sessions that I've DMed have been just with the person in question.
$endgroup$
– Chepelink
8 hours ago




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Is there any reason for the other party members to be in the session? Usually a 1 on 1 sessions that I've DMed have been just with the person in question.
$endgroup$
– Chepelink
8 hours ago












$begingroup$
Can you clarify what you mean by if you can? Clearly you can, there's nobody stopping you. If you're wondering if your players are going to be OK with that there's no point asking us, you have primary sources for that.
$endgroup$
– Cubic
8 hours ago




$begingroup$
Can you clarify what you mean by if you can? Clearly you can, there's nobody stopping you. If you're wondering if your players are going to be OK with that there's no point asking us, you have primary sources for that.
$endgroup$
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If possible, run the side session on another time or day with just those participating



We've actually done this a number of times in a campaign I'm playing in. The players or DM occasionally come up with side quests relevant to a select few players, who we then find a time to play through an another day of the week. This prevents it from disrupting the group as a whole by keeping them from playing, while allowing for the side-quest to still take place.



The smaller group also helps the interaction go much faster. One session was literally the DM and I on a 15 minute car ride, playing in the theater of the mind. Another one was just my coming along to assist on another player's side quest, and only took us half an hour. Yet another of mine took about an hour, and was very similar to what you described above (me, the rogue, on a secret thieving quest).



So yes, this is entirely possible and normal. As I mentioned above, just do your best to avoid disrupting the other players, either by making them sit through it, or by making them have to skip what would have normally been a group session altogether.



Be aware though that by allowing this for one character, it may open up the door for others to request the same. This doesn't mean you have to oblige, especially if you only intended this to be a one-off opportunity for help the other player connect to their character better. But be prepared to know how you intend to respond and handle such requests.



Impact to the main story



This part is a little more dependent on you as the DM, and how you want this to affect your world. In the same way that backstories can (and should) affect the overall plot to increase character engagement, so can and should present stories. Ideally you might want to avoid consequences that take agency away from other players in their part of the story, but that doesn't mean it can't be relevant.



For example, in my thieving side quest I mentioned above, completion of the task got me into a city-wide underground criminal network. This allowed me to help other members of my party as an informant, who could get information on quests and goals we as the whole party sought, and helped increase our group dynamic. This had an affect on the story by helping to improve my investment in it and provided another resource for the other players, but didn't take anything away from the others.



Side-note: Handling XP



As NautArch suggested in a comment below, one thing to keep in mind is how this might affect XP gain. Depending on what method of leveling you use (standard XP, milestone, 3 pillar, etc), you will want to be careful that these side quests don't give someone an unfair lead over their fellow players. In our campaign, side quests typically only granted XP to those who were behind the others, often with the quest itself being an intentional way for that player to catch up.



As someone who typically attended every session and was at the lead in XP, I would often agree with my DM to forgo it altogether in order to simply enjoy the adventure, or in other cases would join on someone else's side quest (if they were ok with it) as a way to help them level their character faster. Again, this will all depend on your group and how leveling works, but so long as the side quests aren't giving them an unfair/special advantage, you should be good.






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    @NautArch We use a slight variant of the 3 pillars XP system, such that being above or below the median player level nets you less or more XP respectively, and those who miss a whole-group session gain half XP. Over time this has kept things fairly normalized. In many cases, the side quests were actually ways for players who had missed a few sessions to have a chance to catch up to the group. Since I was usually at the forefront in leveling though, I'd often forgo XP for the sake of just having the adventure.
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If possible, run the side session on another time or day with just those participating



We've actually done this a number of times in a campaign I'm playing in. The players or DM occasionally come up with side quests relevant to a select few players, who we then find a time to play through an another day of the week. This prevents it from disrupting the group as a whole by keeping them from playing, while allowing for the side-quest to still take place.



The smaller group also helps the interaction go much faster. One session was literally the DM and I on a 15 minute car ride, playing in the theater of the mind. Another one was just my coming along to assist on another player's side quest, and only took us half an hour. Yet another of mine took about an hour, and was very similar to what you described above (me, the rogue, on a secret thieving quest).



So yes, this is entirely possible and normal. As I mentioned above, just do your best to avoid disrupting the other players, either by making them sit through it, or by making them have to skip what would have normally been a group session altogether.



Be aware though that by allowing this for one character, it may open up the door for others to request the same. This doesn't mean you have to oblige, especially if you only intended this to be a one-off opportunity for help the other player connect to their character better. But be prepared to know how you intend to respond and handle such requests.



Impact to the main story



This part is a little more dependent on you as the DM, and how you want this to affect your world. In the same way that backstories can (and should) affect the overall plot to increase character engagement, so can and should present stories. Ideally you might want to avoid consequences that take agency away from other players in their part of the story, but that doesn't mean it can't be relevant.



For example, in my thieving side quest I mentioned above, completion of the task got me into a city-wide underground criminal network. This allowed me to help other members of my party as an informant, who could get information on quests and goals we as the whole party sought, and helped increase our group dynamic. This had an affect on the story by helping to improve my investment in it and provided another resource for the other players, but didn't take anything away from the others.



Side-note: Handling XP



As NautArch suggested in a comment below, one thing to keep in mind is how this might affect XP gain. Depending on what method of leveling you use (standard XP, milestone, 3 pillar, etc), you will want to be careful that these side quests don't give someone an unfair lead over their fellow players. In our campaign, side quests typically only granted XP to those who were behind the others, often with the quest itself being an intentional way for that player to catch up.



As someone who typically attended every session and was at the lead in XP, I would often agree with my DM to forgo it altogether in order to simply enjoy the adventure, or in other cases would join on someone else's side quest (if they were ok with it) as a way to help them level their character faster. Again, this will all depend on your group and how leveling works, but so long as the side quests aren't giving them an unfair/special advantage, you should be good.






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    @NautArch We use a slight variant of the 3 pillars XP system, such that being above or below the median player level nets you less or more XP respectively, and those who miss a whole-group session gain half XP. Over time this has kept things fairly normalized. In many cases, the side quests were actually ways for players who had missed a few sessions to have a chance to catch up to the group. Since I was usually at the forefront in leveling though, I'd often forgo XP for the sake of just having the adventure.
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If possible, run the side session on another time or day with just those participating



We've actually done this a number of times in a campaign I'm playing in. The players or DM occasionally come up with side quests relevant to a select few players, who we then find a time to play through an another day of the week. This prevents it from disrupting the group as a whole by keeping them from playing, while allowing for the side-quest to still take place.



The smaller group also helps the interaction go much faster. One session was literally the DM and I on a 15 minute car ride, playing in the theater of the mind. Another one was just my coming along to assist on another player's side quest, and only took us half an hour. Yet another of mine took about an hour, and was very similar to what you described above (me, the rogue, on a secret thieving quest).



So yes, this is entirely possible and normal. As I mentioned above, just do your best to avoid disrupting the other players, either by making them sit through it, or by making them have to skip what would have normally been a group session altogether.



Be aware though that by allowing this for one character, it may open up the door for others to request the same. This doesn't mean you have to oblige, especially if you only intended this to be a one-off opportunity for help the other player connect to their character better. But be prepared to know how you intend to respond and handle such requests.



Impact to the main story



This part is a little more dependent on you as the DM, and how you want this to affect your world. In the same way that backstories can (and should) affect the overall plot to increase character engagement, so can and should present stories. Ideally you might want to avoid consequences that take agency away from other players in their part of the story, but that doesn't mean it can't be relevant.



For example, in my thieving side quest I mentioned above, completion of the task got me into a city-wide underground criminal network. This allowed me to help other members of my party as an informant, who could get information on quests and goals we as the whole party sought, and helped increase our group dynamic. This had an affect on the story by helping to improve my investment in it and provided another resource for the other players, but didn't take anything away from the others.



Side-note: Handling XP



As NautArch suggested in a comment below, one thing to keep in mind is how this might affect XP gain. Depending on what method of leveling you use (standard XP, milestone, 3 pillar, etc), you will want to be careful that these side quests don't give someone an unfair lead over their fellow players. In our campaign, side quests typically only granted XP to those who were behind the others, often with the quest itself being an intentional way for that player to catch up.



As someone who typically attended every session and was at the lead in XP, I would often agree with my DM to forgo it altogether in order to simply enjoy the adventure, or in other cases would join on someone else's side quest (if they were ok with it) as a way to help them level their character faster. Again, this will all depend on your group and how leveling works, but so long as the side quests aren't giving them an unfair/special advantage, you should be good.






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  • $begingroup$
    @NautArch We use a slight variant of the 3 pillars XP system, such that being above or below the median player level nets you less or more XP respectively, and those who miss a whole-group session gain half XP. Over time this has kept things fairly normalized. In many cases, the side quests were actually ways for players who had missed a few sessions to have a chance to catch up to the group. Since I was usually at the forefront in leveling though, I'd often forgo XP for the sake of just having the adventure.
    $endgroup$
    – Mwr247
    8 hours ago






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    Thanks for the answer, I'll try this out and see how it goes.
    $endgroup$
    – Andre Perrin
    7 hours ago














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If possible, run the side session on another time or day with just those participating



We've actually done this a number of times in a campaign I'm playing in. The players or DM occasionally come up with side quests relevant to a select few players, who we then find a time to play through an another day of the week. This prevents it from disrupting the group as a whole by keeping them from playing, while allowing for the side-quest to still take place.



The smaller group also helps the interaction go much faster. One session was literally the DM and I on a 15 minute car ride, playing in the theater of the mind. Another one was just my coming along to assist on another player's side quest, and only took us half an hour. Yet another of mine took about an hour, and was very similar to what you described above (me, the rogue, on a secret thieving quest).



So yes, this is entirely possible and normal. As I mentioned above, just do your best to avoid disrupting the other players, either by making them sit through it, or by making them have to skip what would have normally been a group session altogether.



Be aware though that by allowing this for one character, it may open up the door for others to request the same. This doesn't mean you have to oblige, especially if you only intended this to be a one-off opportunity for help the other player connect to their character better. But be prepared to know how you intend to respond and handle such requests.



Impact to the main story



This part is a little more dependent on you as the DM, and how you want this to affect your world. In the same way that backstories can (and should) affect the overall plot to increase character engagement, so can and should present stories. Ideally you might want to avoid consequences that take agency away from other players in their part of the story, but that doesn't mean it can't be relevant.



For example, in my thieving side quest I mentioned above, completion of the task got me into a city-wide underground criminal network. This allowed me to help other members of my party as an informant, who could get information on quests and goals we as the whole party sought, and helped increase our group dynamic. This had an affect on the story by helping to improve my investment in it and provided another resource for the other players, but didn't take anything away from the others.



Side-note: Handling XP



As NautArch suggested in a comment below, one thing to keep in mind is how this might affect XP gain. Depending on what method of leveling you use (standard XP, milestone, 3 pillar, etc), you will want to be careful that these side quests don't give someone an unfair lead over their fellow players. In our campaign, side quests typically only granted XP to those who were behind the others, often with the quest itself being an intentional way for that player to catch up.



As someone who typically attended every session and was at the lead in XP, I would often agree with my DM to forgo it altogether in order to simply enjoy the adventure, or in other cases would join on someone else's side quest (if they were ok with it) as a way to help them level their character faster. Again, this will all depend on your group and how leveling works, but so long as the side quests aren't giving them an unfair/special advantage, you should be good.






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If possible, run the side session on another time or day with just those participating



We've actually done this a number of times in a campaign I'm playing in. The players or DM occasionally come up with side quests relevant to a select few players, who we then find a time to play through an another day of the week. This prevents it from disrupting the group as a whole by keeping them from playing, while allowing for the side-quest to still take place.



The smaller group also helps the interaction go much faster. One session was literally the DM and I on a 15 minute car ride, playing in the theater of the mind. Another one was just my coming along to assist on another player's side quest, and only took us half an hour. Yet another of mine took about an hour, and was very similar to what you described above (me, the rogue, on a secret thieving quest).



So yes, this is entirely possible and normal. As I mentioned above, just do your best to avoid disrupting the other players, either by making them sit through it, or by making them have to skip what would have normally been a group session altogether.



Be aware though that by allowing this for one character, it may open up the door for others to request the same. This doesn't mean you have to oblige, especially if you only intended this to be a one-off opportunity for help the other player connect to their character better. But be prepared to know how you intend to respond and handle such requests.



Impact to the main story



This part is a little more dependent on you as the DM, and how you want this to affect your world. In the same way that backstories can (and should) affect the overall plot to increase character engagement, so can and should present stories. Ideally you might want to avoid consequences that take agency away from other players in their part of the story, but that doesn't mean it can't be relevant.



For example, in my thieving side quest I mentioned above, completion of the task got me into a city-wide underground criminal network. This allowed me to help other members of my party as an informant, who could get information on quests and goals we as the whole party sought, and helped increase our group dynamic. This had an affect on the story by helping to improve my investment in it and provided another resource for the other players, but didn't take anything away from the others.



Side-note: Handling XP



As NautArch suggested in a comment below, one thing to keep in mind is how this might affect XP gain. Depending on what method of leveling you use (standard XP, milestone, 3 pillar, etc), you will want to be careful that these side quests don't give someone an unfair lead over their fellow players. In our campaign, side quests typically only granted XP to those who were behind the others, often with the quest itself being an intentional way for that player to catch up.



As someone who typically attended every session and was at the lead in XP, I would often agree with my DM to forgo it altogether in order to simply enjoy the adventure, or in other cases would join on someone else's side quest (if they were ok with it) as a way to help them level their character faster. Again, this will all depend on your group and how leveling works, but so long as the side quests aren't giving them an unfair/special advantage, you should be good.







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    @NautArch We use a slight variant of the 3 pillars XP system, such that being above or below the median player level nets you less or more XP respectively, and those who miss a whole-group session gain half XP. Over time this has kept things fairly normalized. In many cases, the side quests were actually ways for players who had missed a few sessions to have a chance to catch up to the group. Since I was usually at the forefront in leveling though, I'd often forgo XP for the sake of just having the adventure.
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    Thanks for the answer, I'll try this out and see how it goes.
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  • $begingroup$
    @NautArch We use a slight variant of the 3 pillars XP system, such that being above or below the median player level nets you less or more XP respectively, and those who miss a whole-group session gain half XP. Over time this has kept things fairly normalized. In many cases, the side quests were actually ways for players who had missed a few sessions to have a chance to catch up to the group. Since I was usually at the forefront in leveling though, I'd often forgo XP for the sake of just having the adventure.
    $endgroup$
    – Mwr247
    8 hours ago






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    $begingroup$
    Thanks for the answer, I'll try this out and see how it goes.
    $endgroup$
    – Andre Perrin
    7 hours ago
















$begingroup$
@NautArch We use a slight variant of the 3 pillars XP system, such that being above or below the median player level nets you less or more XP respectively, and those who miss a whole-group session gain half XP. Over time this has kept things fairly normalized. In many cases, the side quests were actually ways for players who had missed a few sessions to have a chance to catch up to the group. Since I was usually at the forefront in leveling though, I'd often forgo XP for the sake of just having the adventure.
$endgroup$
– Mwr247
8 hours ago




$begingroup$
@NautArch We use a slight variant of the 3 pillars XP system, such that being above or below the median player level nets you less or more XP respectively, and those who miss a whole-group session gain half XP. Over time this has kept things fairly normalized. In many cases, the side quests were actually ways for players who had missed a few sessions to have a chance to catch up to the group. Since I was usually at the forefront in leveling though, I'd often forgo XP for the sake of just having the adventure.
$endgroup$
– Mwr247
8 hours ago




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Thanks for the answer, I'll try this out and see how it goes.
$endgroup$
– Andre Perrin
7 hours ago




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Thanks for the answer, I'll try this out and see how it goes.
$endgroup$
– Andre Perrin
7 hours ago










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