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While we have to learn the entire Torah, I remember once learning that "everyone has a specific area of Torah that they're specifically drawn to/ naturally comes easier to them"

(for example: monetary laws, Hilchos Sukkah, Yoreh Deah etc).



Is there a source for where this idea can be found?










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    I'm not sure if it's exactly that or it's its "practical implication" in that every person has a specific set or types of mitzvoth that the is attracted to.

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    How is this different from everyone having a favorite food that it needs a source? Is this more of an ontological claim?

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  • @DanF yep or that too

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    On a mystical level - I don’t know, though on a practical level Chazal seemed OK and likely encouraged individuals to pursue personal interest in different areas of Torah. See AZ 19a. Often enough when a sage would “enter a different playing field” he was remonstrated with a “stick to your forte” (“...כלך ל”).

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While we have to learn the entire Torah, I remember once learning that "everyone has a specific area of Torah that they're specifically drawn to/ naturally comes easier to them"

(for example: monetary laws, Hilchos Sukkah, Yoreh Deah etc).



Is there a source for where this idea can be found?










share|improve this question




















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    I'm not sure if it's exactly that or it's its "practical implication" in that every person has a specific set or types of mitzvoth that the is attracted to.

    – DanF
    10 hours ago






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    How is this different from everyone having a favorite food that it needs a source? Is this more of an ontological claim?

    – Double AA
    9 hours ago













  • @DanF yep or that too

    – alicht
    9 hours ago






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    On a mystical level - I don’t know, though on a practical level Chazal seemed OK and likely encouraged individuals to pursue personal interest in different areas of Torah. See AZ 19a. Often enough when a sage would “enter a different playing field” he was remonstrated with a “stick to your forte” (“...כלך ל”).

    – Oliver
    9 hours ago














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While we have to learn the entire Torah, I remember once learning that "everyone has a specific area of Torah that they're specifically drawn to/ naturally comes easier to them"

(for example: monetary laws, Hilchos Sukkah, Yoreh Deah etc).



Is there a source for where this idea can be found?










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While we have to learn the entire Torah, I remember once learning that "everyone has a specific area of Torah that they're specifically drawn to/ naturally comes easier to them"

(for example: monetary laws, Hilchos Sukkah, Yoreh Deah etc).



Is there a source for where this idea can be found?







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    I'm not sure if it's exactly that or it's its "practical implication" in that every person has a specific set or types of mitzvoth that the is attracted to.

    – DanF
    10 hours ago






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    How is this different from everyone having a favorite food that it needs a source? Is this more of an ontological claim?

    – Double AA
    9 hours ago













  • @DanF yep or that too

    – alicht
    9 hours ago






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    On a mystical level - I don’t know, though on a practical level Chazal seemed OK and likely encouraged individuals to pursue personal interest in different areas of Torah. See AZ 19a. Often enough when a sage would “enter a different playing field” he was remonstrated with a “stick to your forte” (“...כלך ל”).

    – Oliver
    9 hours ago














  • 1





    I'm not sure if it's exactly that or it's its "practical implication" in that every person has a specific set or types of mitzvoth that the is attracted to.

    – DanF
    10 hours ago






  • 1





    How is this different from everyone having a favorite food that it needs a source? Is this more of an ontological claim?

    – Double AA
    9 hours ago













  • @DanF yep or that too

    – alicht
    9 hours ago






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    On a mystical level - I don’t know, though on a practical level Chazal seemed OK and likely encouraged individuals to pursue personal interest in different areas of Torah. See AZ 19a. Often enough when a sage would “enter a different playing field” he was remonstrated with a “stick to your forte” (“...כלך ל”).

    – Oliver
    9 hours ago








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I'm not sure if it's exactly that or it's its "practical implication" in that every person has a specific set or types of mitzvoth that the is attracted to.

– DanF
10 hours ago





I'm not sure if it's exactly that or it's its "practical implication" in that every person has a specific set or types of mitzvoth that the is attracted to.

– DanF
10 hours ago




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How is this different from everyone having a favorite food that it needs a source? Is this more of an ontological claim?

– Double AA
9 hours ago







How is this different from everyone having a favorite food that it needs a source? Is this more of an ontological claim?

– Double AA
9 hours ago















@DanF yep or that too

– alicht
9 hours ago





@DanF yep or that too

– alicht
9 hours ago




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On a mystical level - I don’t know, though on a practical level Chazal seemed OK and likely encouraged individuals to pursue personal interest in different areas of Torah. See AZ 19a. Often enough when a sage would “enter a different playing field” he was remonstrated with a “stick to your forte” (“...כלך ל”).

– Oliver
9 hours ago





On a mystical level - I don’t know, though on a practical level Chazal seemed OK and likely encouraged individuals to pursue personal interest in different areas of Torah. See AZ 19a. Often enough when a sage would “enter a different playing field” he was remonstrated with a “stick to your forte” (“...כלך ל”).

– Oliver
9 hours ago










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You probably refer to Gemmorah in Avodah Zarah 19a:




אָמַר רַבִּי: אֵין אָדָם לוֹמֵד תּוֹרָה אֶלָּא מִמָּקוֹם שֶׁלִּבּוֹ חָפֵץ,

.(שֶׁנֶּאֱמַר: "כִּי אִם בְּתוֹרַת ה' חֶפְצוֹ"(תהילים א, ב



Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi says: A person can learn Torah only from a place in the Torah that his heart desires, as it is stated: But his delight is in the Torah of the Lord (i.e., his delight is in the part of the Torah that he wishes to study).




THe Gemmorah continues with some examples:




לוי ור"ש ברבי יתבי קמיה דרבי וקא פסקי סידרא סליק ספרא לוי אמר לייתו [לן] משלי ר"ש ברבי אמר לייתו [לן] תילים כפייה ללוי ואייתו תילים כי מטו הכא כי אם בתורת ה' חפצו פריש רבי ואמר אין אדם לומד תורה אלא ממקום שלבו חפץ אמר לוי רבי נתת לנו רשות לעמוד



The Gemara relates: Levi and Rabbi Shimon, son of Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi, were sitting before Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi, and they were learning the Torah portion. When they finished the book that they were learning and were ready to begin a new subject, Levi said: Let them bring us the book of Proverbs; and Rabbi Shimon, son of Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi, said: Let them bring us the book of Psalms. He compelled Levi to acquiesce, and they brought a book of Psalms. When they arrived here, at the verse: “But his delight is in the Torah of the Lord,” Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi explained the verse and said: A person can learn Torah only from a place in the Torah that his heart desires. Levi said: My teacher, you have given us, i.e., me, permission to rise and leave, as I wish to study Proverbs, not Psalms.







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  • Please,read the whole page, because many different aspects are discussed there.

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  • Maybe you mean the end of the posuk - בתורתו יהגה - [the person] will emerge his own Torah, so to say.

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You probably refer to Gemmorah in Avodah Zarah 19a:




אָמַר רַבִּי: אֵין אָדָם לוֹמֵד תּוֹרָה אֶלָּא מִמָּקוֹם שֶׁלִּבּוֹ חָפֵץ,

.(שֶׁנֶּאֱמַר: "כִּי אִם בְּתוֹרַת ה' חֶפְצוֹ"(תהילים א, ב



Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi says: A person can learn Torah only from a place in the Torah that his heart desires, as it is stated: But his delight is in the Torah of the Lord (i.e., his delight is in the part of the Torah that he wishes to study).




THe Gemmorah continues with some examples:




לוי ור"ש ברבי יתבי קמיה דרבי וקא פסקי סידרא סליק ספרא לוי אמר לייתו [לן] משלי ר"ש ברבי אמר לייתו [לן] תילים כפייה ללוי ואייתו תילים כי מטו הכא כי אם בתורת ה' חפצו פריש רבי ואמר אין אדם לומד תורה אלא ממקום שלבו חפץ אמר לוי רבי נתת לנו רשות לעמוד



The Gemara relates: Levi and Rabbi Shimon, son of Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi, were sitting before Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi, and they were learning the Torah portion. When they finished the book that they were learning and were ready to begin a new subject, Levi said: Let them bring us the book of Proverbs; and Rabbi Shimon, son of Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi, said: Let them bring us the book of Psalms. He compelled Levi to acquiesce, and they brought a book of Psalms. When they arrived here, at the verse: “But his delight is in the Torah of the Lord,” Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi explained the verse and said: A person can learn Torah only from a place in the Torah that his heart desires. Levi said: My teacher, you have given us, i.e., me, permission to rise and leave, as I wish to study Proverbs, not Psalms.







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  • Thanks for the answer! Kind of like this but with more specific wording, ie like in the question

    – alicht
    9 hours ago











  • Please,read the whole page, because many different aspects are discussed there.

    – Al Berko
    9 hours ago











  • Maybe you mean the end of the posuk - בתורתו יהגה - [the person] will emerge his own Torah, so to say.

    – Al Berko
    9 hours ago
















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You probably refer to Gemmorah in Avodah Zarah 19a:




אָמַר רַבִּי: אֵין אָדָם לוֹמֵד תּוֹרָה אֶלָּא מִמָּקוֹם שֶׁלִּבּוֹ חָפֵץ,

.(שֶׁנֶּאֱמַר: "כִּי אִם בְּתוֹרַת ה' חֶפְצוֹ"(תהילים א, ב



Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi says: A person can learn Torah only from a place in the Torah that his heart desires, as it is stated: But his delight is in the Torah of the Lord (i.e., his delight is in the part of the Torah that he wishes to study).




THe Gemmorah continues with some examples:




לוי ור"ש ברבי יתבי קמיה דרבי וקא פסקי סידרא סליק ספרא לוי אמר לייתו [לן] משלי ר"ש ברבי אמר לייתו [לן] תילים כפייה ללוי ואייתו תילים כי מטו הכא כי אם בתורת ה' חפצו פריש רבי ואמר אין אדם לומד תורה אלא ממקום שלבו חפץ אמר לוי רבי נתת לנו רשות לעמוד



The Gemara relates: Levi and Rabbi Shimon, son of Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi, were sitting before Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi, and they were learning the Torah portion. When they finished the book that they were learning and were ready to begin a new subject, Levi said: Let them bring us the book of Proverbs; and Rabbi Shimon, son of Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi, said: Let them bring us the book of Psalms. He compelled Levi to acquiesce, and they brought a book of Psalms. When they arrived here, at the verse: “But his delight is in the Torah of the Lord,” Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi explained the verse and said: A person can learn Torah only from a place in the Torah that his heart desires. Levi said: My teacher, you have given us, i.e., me, permission to rise and leave, as I wish to study Proverbs, not Psalms.







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  • Thanks for the answer! Kind of like this but with more specific wording, ie like in the question

    – alicht
    9 hours ago











  • Please,read the whole page, because many different aspects are discussed there.

    – Al Berko
    9 hours ago











  • Maybe you mean the end of the posuk - בתורתו יהגה - [the person] will emerge his own Torah, so to say.

    – Al Berko
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You probably refer to Gemmorah in Avodah Zarah 19a:




אָמַר רַבִּי: אֵין אָדָם לוֹמֵד תּוֹרָה אֶלָּא מִמָּקוֹם שֶׁלִּבּוֹ חָפֵץ,

.(שֶׁנֶּאֱמַר: "כִּי אִם בְּתוֹרַת ה' חֶפְצוֹ"(תהילים א, ב



Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi says: A person can learn Torah only from a place in the Torah that his heart desires, as it is stated: But his delight is in the Torah of the Lord (i.e., his delight is in the part of the Torah that he wishes to study).




THe Gemmorah continues with some examples:




לוי ור"ש ברבי יתבי קמיה דרבי וקא פסקי סידרא סליק ספרא לוי אמר לייתו [לן] משלי ר"ש ברבי אמר לייתו [לן] תילים כפייה ללוי ואייתו תילים כי מטו הכא כי אם בתורת ה' חפצו פריש רבי ואמר אין אדם לומד תורה אלא ממקום שלבו חפץ אמר לוי רבי נתת לנו רשות לעמוד



The Gemara relates: Levi and Rabbi Shimon, son of Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi, were sitting before Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi, and they were learning the Torah portion. When they finished the book that they were learning and were ready to begin a new subject, Levi said: Let them bring us the book of Proverbs; and Rabbi Shimon, son of Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi, said: Let them bring us the book of Psalms. He compelled Levi to acquiesce, and they brought a book of Psalms. When they arrived here, at the verse: “But his delight is in the Torah of the Lord,” Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi explained the verse and said: A person can learn Torah only from a place in the Torah that his heart desires. Levi said: My teacher, you have given us, i.e., me, permission to rise and leave, as I wish to study Proverbs, not Psalms.







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You probably refer to Gemmorah in Avodah Zarah 19a:




אָמַר רַבִּי: אֵין אָדָם לוֹמֵד תּוֹרָה אֶלָּא מִמָּקוֹם שֶׁלִּבּוֹ חָפֵץ,

.(שֶׁנֶּאֱמַר: "כִּי אִם בְּתוֹרַת ה' חֶפְצוֹ"(תהילים א, ב



Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi says: A person can learn Torah only from a place in the Torah that his heart desires, as it is stated: But his delight is in the Torah of the Lord (i.e., his delight is in the part of the Torah that he wishes to study).




THe Gemmorah continues with some examples:




לוי ור"ש ברבי יתבי קמיה דרבי וקא פסקי סידרא סליק ספרא לוי אמר לייתו [לן] משלי ר"ש ברבי אמר לייתו [לן] תילים כפייה ללוי ואייתו תילים כי מטו הכא כי אם בתורת ה' חפצו פריש רבי ואמר אין אדם לומד תורה אלא ממקום שלבו חפץ אמר לוי רבי נתת לנו רשות לעמוד



The Gemara relates: Levi and Rabbi Shimon, son of Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi, were sitting before Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi, and they were learning the Torah portion. When they finished the book that they were learning and were ready to begin a new subject, Levi said: Let them bring us the book of Proverbs; and Rabbi Shimon, son of Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi, said: Let them bring us the book of Psalms. He compelled Levi to acquiesce, and they brought a book of Psalms. When they arrived here, at the verse: “But his delight is in the Torah of the Lord,” Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi explained the verse and said: A person can learn Torah only from a place in the Torah that his heart desires. Levi said: My teacher, you have given us, i.e., me, permission to rise and leave, as I wish to study Proverbs, not Psalms.








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  • Thanks for the answer! Kind of like this but with more specific wording, ie like in the question

    – alicht
    9 hours ago











  • Please,read the whole page, because many different aspects are discussed there.

    – Al Berko
    9 hours ago











  • Maybe you mean the end of the posuk - בתורתו יהגה - [the person] will emerge his own Torah, so to say.

    – Al Berko
    9 hours ago



















  • Thanks for the answer! Kind of like this but with more specific wording, ie like in the question

    – alicht
    9 hours ago











  • Please,read the whole page, because many different aspects are discussed there.

    – Al Berko
    9 hours ago











  • Maybe you mean the end of the posuk - בתורתו יהגה - [the person] will emerge his own Torah, so to say.

    – Al Berko
    9 hours ago

















Thanks for the answer! Kind of like this but with more specific wording, ie like in the question

– alicht
9 hours ago





Thanks for the answer! Kind of like this but with more specific wording, ie like in the question

– alicht
9 hours ago













Please,read the whole page, because many different aspects are discussed there.

– Al Berko
9 hours ago





Please,read the whole page, because many different aspects are discussed there.

– Al Berko
9 hours ago













Maybe you mean the end of the posuk - בתורתו יהגה - [the person] will emerge his own Torah, so to say.

– Al Berko
9 hours ago





Maybe you mean the end of the posuk - בתורתו יהגה - [the person] will emerge his own Torah, so to say.

– Al Berko
9 hours ago



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