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Based on Will I be taxed for accepting money to help needy?, I am wondering how the law goes.
Suppose a kid is taking part in a school activity (e.g. http://www.firstlegoleague.org) along with a team of 5-6 other kids and then there are expenses that all kids share equally. The total cost is $500 and there are 5 kids, and four of the kids pay $100 each to fifth kid's parent, who later does the purchasing of kits etc for $500., without taking a single dime as profit.
Is this collection of $400 from other kids taxable?
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Based on Will I be taxed for accepting money to help needy?, I am wondering how the law goes.
Suppose a kid is taking part in a school activity (e.g. http://www.firstlegoleague.org) along with a team of 5-6 other kids and then there are expenses that all kids share equally. The total cost is $500 and there are 5 kids, and four of the kids pay $100 each to fifth kid's parent, who later does the purchasing of kits etc for $500., without taking a single dime as profit.
Is this collection of $400 from other kids taxable?
united-states income-tax
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Based on Will I be taxed for accepting money to help needy?, I am wondering how the law goes.
Suppose a kid is taking part in a school activity (e.g. http://www.firstlegoleague.org) along with a team of 5-6 other kids and then there are expenses that all kids share equally. The total cost is $500 and there are 5 kids, and four of the kids pay $100 each to fifth kid's parent, who later does the purchasing of kits etc for $500., without taking a single dime as profit.
Is this collection of $400 from other kids taxable?
united-states income-tax
Based on Will I be taxed for accepting money to help needy?, I am wondering how the law goes.
Suppose a kid is taking part in a school activity (e.g. http://www.firstlegoleague.org) along with a team of 5-6 other kids and then there are expenses that all kids share equally. The total cost is $500 and there are 5 kids, and four of the kids pay $100 each to fifth kid's parent, who later does the purchasing of kits etc for $500., without taking a single dime as profit.
Is this collection of $400 from other kids taxable?
united-states income-tax
united-states income-tax
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Consider for a minute what the implications would be if this were a business or nonprofit. Taxes are collected from net earnings. 5 parents contribute $100 each to an organization, the organization buys $500 of stuff.
$500 Revenue
($500) Expenses
—————
0 Net Income
$0 of net income times a 15% tax rate is a tax liability of $0.
If the Legos purchased ultimately only cost $480, there would be $20 that would be taxable, technically. If the numbers you're using are real this probably all falls under diminimus hobby activity anyway. But the $100 received from each payment is definitely not income.
The purpose of non-profit organizations is facitating the ability for donors to deduct their donations from their income, that is the issue being raised in the other question. In your question none of the parents are attempting to deduct the $100 cost/contribution from their income.
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This could easily be considered a personal gift, which doesn't have any tax implications below $15,000 currently. Even if it wouldn't be considered a gift, it shouldn't be considered income for the person who made the purchase on behalf of a group of people, who all benefit from the purchase.
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As someone who has worked with FIRST Robotics and non-profits, you might want to consider looking into what it'll take to start a non-profit org for your team. It doesn't have to be a 501c3, as there are a wide variety of non-profits that don't pay taxes on organizationally related income, but do a little research about what would work best in your case.
Becoming your own non-profit can be a bit expensive for fees, so I don't recommend it unless you are going to be getting and spending a lot of money (as in thousands a year for several years at a time). There's plenty of bookkeeping that goes into a non-profit to satisfy the IRS, so there's a time element involved. It's just something to consider.
You can also see about attaching to another org that is already a non-profit. That way you can donate to a specific fund that the costs of the robot kits and parts come from. This way the parents can benefit from a small tax deduction as well as the org handling any tax related issues, which aren't likely if you get with an educational or crafty/DIY org (like a makerspace). Getting in with the right non-profit is essential so they automatically don't have to worry about taxes for your contributions.
Good luck and have fun!
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Consider for a minute what the implications would be if this were a business or nonprofit. Taxes are collected from net earnings. 5 parents contribute $100 each to an organization, the organization buys $500 of stuff.
$500 Revenue
($500) Expenses
—————
0 Net Income
$0 of net income times a 15% tax rate is a tax liability of $0.
If the Legos purchased ultimately only cost $480, there would be $20 that would be taxable, technically. If the numbers you're using are real this probably all falls under diminimus hobby activity anyway. But the $100 received from each payment is definitely not income.
The purpose of non-profit organizations is facitating the ability for donors to deduct their donations from their income, that is the issue being raised in the other question. In your question none of the parents are attempting to deduct the $100 cost/contribution from their income.
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Consider for a minute what the implications would be if this were a business or nonprofit. Taxes are collected from net earnings. 5 parents contribute $100 each to an organization, the organization buys $500 of stuff.
$500 Revenue
($500) Expenses
—————
0 Net Income
$0 of net income times a 15% tax rate is a tax liability of $0.
If the Legos purchased ultimately only cost $480, there would be $20 that would be taxable, technically. If the numbers you're using are real this probably all falls under diminimus hobby activity anyway. But the $100 received from each payment is definitely not income.
The purpose of non-profit organizations is facitating the ability for donors to deduct their donations from their income, that is the issue being raised in the other question. In your question none of the parents are attempting to deduct the $100 cost/contribution from their income.
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Consider for a minute what the implications would be if this were a business or nonprofit. Taxes are collected from net earnings. 5 parents contribute $100 each to an organization, the organization buys $500 of stuff.
$500 Revenue
($500) Expenses
—————
0 Net Income
$0 of net income times a 15% tax rate is a tax liability of $0.
If the Legos purchased ultimately only cost $480, there would be $20 that would be taxable, technically. If the numbers you're using are real this probably all falls under diminimus hobby activity anyway. But the $100 received from each payment is definitely not income.
The purpose of non-profit organizations is facitating the ability for donors to deduct their donations from their income, that is the issue being raised in the other question. In your question none of the parents are attempting to deduct the $100 cost/contribution from their income.
Consider for a minute what the implications would be if this were a business or nonprofit. Taxes are collected from net earnings. 5 parents contribute $100 each to an organization, the organization buys $500 of stuff.
$500 Revenue
($500) Expenses
—————
0 Net Income
$0 of net income times a 15% tax rate is a tax liability of $0.
If the Legos purchased ultimately only cost $480, there would be $20 that would be taxable, technically. If the numbers you're using are real this probably all falls under diminimus hobby activity anyway. But the $100 received from each payment is definitely not income.
The purpose of non-profit organizations is facitating the ability for donors to deduct their donations from their income, that is the issue being raised in the other question. In your question none of the parents are attempting to deduct the $100 cost/contribution from their income.
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This could easily be considered a personal gift, which doesn't have any tax implications below $15,000 currently. Even if it wouldn't be considered a gift, it shouldn't be considered income for the person who made the purchase on behalf of a group of people, who all benefit from the purchase.
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This could easily be considered a personal gift, which doesn't have any tax implications below $15,000 currently. Even if it wouldn't be considered a gift, it shouldn't be considered income for the person who made the purchase on behalf of a group of people, who all benefit from the purchase.
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This could easily be considered a personal gift, which doesn't have any tax implications below $15,000 currently. Even if it wouldn't be considered a gift, it shouldn't be considered income for the person who made the purchase on behalf of a group of people, who all benefit from the purchase.
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This could easily be considered a personal gift, which doesn't have any tax implications below $15,000 currently. Even if it wouldn't be considered a gift, it shouldn't be considered income for the person who made the purchase on behalf of a group of people, who all benefit from the purchase.
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As someone who has worked with FIRST Robotics and non-profits, you might want to consider looking into what it'll take to start a non-profit org for your team. It doesn't have to be a 501c3, as there are a wide variety of non-profits that don't pay taxes on organizationally related income, but do a little research about what would work best in your case.
Becoming your own non-profit can be a bit expensive for fees, so I don't recommend it unless you are going to be getting and spending a lot of money (as in thousands a year for several years at a time). There's plenty of bookkeeping that goes into a non-profit to satisfy the IRS, so there's a time element involved. It's just something to consider.
You can also see about attaching to another org that is already a non-profit. That way you can donate to a specific fund that the costs of the robot kits and parts come from. This way the parents can benefit from a small tax deduction as well as the org handling any tax related issues, which aren't likely if you get with an educational or crafty/DIY org (like a makerspace). Getting in with the right non-profit is essential so they automatically don't have to worry about taxes for your contributions.
Good luck and have fun!
add a comment |
As someone who has worked with FIRST Robotics and non-profits, you might want to consider looking into what it'll take to start a non-profit org for your team. It doesn't have to be a 501c3, as there are a wide variety of non-profits that don't pay taxes on organizationally related income, but do a little research about what would work best in your case.
Becoming your own non-profit can be a bit expensive for fees, so I don't recommend it unless you are going to be getting and spending a lot of money (as in thousands a year for several years at a time). There's plenty of bookkeeping that goes into a non-profit to satisfy the IRS, so there's a time element involved. It's just something to consider.
You can also see about attaching to another org that is already a non-profit. That way you can donate to a specific fund that the costs of the robot kits and parts come from. This way the parents can benefit from a small tax deduction as well as the org handling any tax related issues, which aren't likely if you get with an educational or crafty/DIY org (like a makerspace). Getting in with the right non-profit is essential so they automatically don't have to worry about taxes for your contributions.
Good luck and have fun!
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As someone who has worked with FIRST Robotics and non-profits, you might want to consider looking into what it'll take to start a non-profit org for your team. It doesn't have to be a 501c3, as there are a wide variety of non-profits that don't pay taxes on organizationally related income, but do a little research about what would work best in your case.
Becoming your own non-profit can be a bit expensive for fees, so I don't recommend it unless you are going to be getting and spending a lot of money (as in thousands a year for several years at a time). There's plenty of bookkeeping that goes into a non-profit to satisfy the IRS, so there's a time element involved. It's just something to consider.
You can also see about attaching to another org that is already a non-profit. That way you can donate to a specific fund that the costs of the robot kits and parts come from. This way the parents can benefit from a small tax deduction as well as the org handling any tax related issues, which aren't likely if you get with an educational or crafty/DIY org (like a makerspace). Getting in with the right non-profit is essential so they automatically don't have to worry about taxes for your contributions.
Good luck and have fun!
As someone who has worked with FIRST Robotics and non-profits, you might want to consider looking into what it'll take to start a non-profit org for your team. It doesn't have to be a 501c3, as there are a wide variety of non-profits that don't pay taxes on organizationally related income, but do a little research about what would work best in your case.
Becoming your own non-profit can be a bit expensive for fees, so I don't recommend it unless you are going to be getting and spending a lot of money (as in thousands a year for several years at a time). There's plenty of bookkeeping that goes into a non-profit to satisfy the IRS, so there's a time element involved. It's just something to consider.
You can also see about attaching to another org that is already a non-profit. That way you can donate to a specific fund that the costs of the robot kits and parts come from. This way the parents can benefit from a small tax deduction as well as the org handling any tax related issues, which aren't likely if you get with an educational or crafty/DIY org (like a makerspace). Getting in with the right non-profit is essential so they automatically don't have to worry about taxes for your contributions.
Good luck and have fun!
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