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So I tried to derive the product rule without adding $f(x)g(x+Delta x)-f(x)g(x+Delta x)$ as we used to. Instead I started deriving it directly and ran into a strange conclusion that $(uv)'=u'v$. The derivation looks like this:
begin{align}
(uv)' & = lim_{Delta xto0} frac{u(x+Delta x)v(x+Delta x)-u(x)v(x)}{Delta x} \
& = lim_{Delta xto0} frac{u(x+Delta x)v(x+Delta x)}{Delta x}-lim_{Delta xto0} frac{u(x)v(x)}{Delta x} \
& = lim_{Delta xto0} frac{u(x+Delta x)}{Delta x}lim_{Delta xto0} v(x+Delta x)-lim_{Delta xto0} frac{u(x)}{Delta x}lim_{Delta xto0} v(x) \
& = lim_{Delta xto0} frac{u(x+Delta x)}{Delta x}v(x)-lim_{Delta xto0} frac{u(x)}{Delta x}v(x) \
& = v(x)(lim_{Delta xto0} frac{u(x+Delta x)}{Delta x}-lim_{Delta xto0} frac{u(x)}{Delta x}) \
& = v(x)lim_{Delta xto0} frac{u(x+Delta x)-u(x)}{Delta x} \
& = u'v
end{align}
Apparently there is a mistake somewhere, but I can't figure out where exactly. Any ideas?
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So I tried to derive the product rule without adding $f(x)g(x+Delta x)-f(x)g(x+Delta x)$ as we used to. Instead I started deriving it directly and ran into a strange conclusion that $(uv)'=u'v$. The derivation looks like this:
begin{align}
(uv)' & = lim_{Delta xto0} frac{u(x+Delta x)v(x+Delta x)-u(x)v(x)}{Delta x} \
& = lim_{Delta xto0} frac{u(x+Delta x)v(x+Delta x)}{Delta x}-lim_{Delta xto0} frac{u(x)v(x)}{Delta x} \
& = lim_{Delta xto0} frac{u(x+Delta x)}{Delta x}lim_{Delta xto0} v(x+Delta x)-lim_{Delta xto0} frac{u(x)}{Delta x}lim_{Delta xto0} v(x) \
& = lim_{Delta xto0} frac{u(x+Delta x)}{Delta x}v(x)-lim_{Delta xto0} frac{u(x)}{Delta x}v(x) \
& = v(x)(lim_{Delta xto0} frac{u(x+Delta x)}{Delta x}-lim_{Delta xto0} frac{u(x)}{Delta x}) \
& = v(x)lim_{Delta xto0} frac{u(x+Delta x)-u(x)}{Delta x} \
& = u'v
end{align}
Apparently there is a mistake somewhere, but I can't figure out where exactly. Any ideas?
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Most of the limits you have written during your working do not exist due to division by zero. Hence this kind of invalidates the working.
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– Peter Foreman
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Normally a problem comes when you split a limit up into different parts e.g. $$lim_{xto a}f(x)g(x)=left(lim_{xto a}f(x)right)left(lim_{xto a}g(x)right)$$
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$lim_{Delta x rightarrow 0} frac{v(x)u(x)}{Delta x}$ is certainly not defined in general
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We can't say that $lim_{x to a} f(x) - g(x) = lim_{x to a} f(x) - lim_{x to a} g(x)$ if either $f$ or $g$ do not have a limit as $x$ approaches $a$.
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as mentioned above, there are division by zero issues, and also, the standard limit rules like $lim (f-g) = lim(f) - lim(g)$ and likewise for products etc are only valid AFTER you know that the limits exist. In your derivation, you applied these limit rules without checking whether the limit actually exists (eg. your second line). I suggest that you do not use the symbols $lim_{Delta x to 0}$ unless you know the limit exists. Instead, start with $dfrac{(fg)(x + Delta x) - (fg)(x)}{Delta x}$, do a bunch of algebra, and only in the final step, take the limit $lim_{Delta x to 0}$.
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So I tried to derive the product rule without adding $f(x)g(x+Delta x)-f(x)g(x+Delta x)$ as we used to. Instead I started deriving it directly and ran into a strange conclusion that $(uv)'=u'v$. The derivation looks like this:
begin{align}
(uv)' & = lim_{Delta xto0} frac{u(x+Delta x)v(x+Delta x)-u(x)v(x)}{Delta x} \
& = lim_{Delta xto0} frac{u(x+Delta x)v(x+Delta x)}{Delta x}-lim_{Delta xto0} frac{u(x)v(x)}{Delta x} \
& = lim_{Delta xto0} frac{u(x+Delta x)}{Delta x}lim_{Delta xto0} v(x+Delta x)-lim_{Delta xto0} frac{u(x)}{Delta x}lim_{Delta xto0} v(x) \
& = lim_{Delta xto0} frac{u(x+Delta x)}{Delta x}v(x)-lim_{Delta xto0} frac{u(x)}{Delta x}v(x) \
& = v(x)(lim_{Delta xto0} frac{u(x+Delta x)}{Delta x}-lim_{Delta xto0} frac{u(x)}{Delta x}) \
& = v(x)lim_{Delta xto0} frac{u(x+Delta x)-u(x)}{Delta x} \
& = u'v
end{align}
Apparently there is a mistake somewhere, but I can't figure out where exactly. Any ideas?
limits proof-verification derivatives fake-proofs
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So I tried to derive the product rule without adding $f(x)g(x+Delta x)-f(x)g(x+Delta x)$ as we used to. Instead I started deriving it directly and ran into a strange conclusion that $(uv)'=u'v$. The derivation looks like this:
begin{align}
(uv)' & = lim_{Delta xto0} frac{u(x+Delta x)v(x+Delta x)-u(x)v(x)}{Delta x} \
& = lim_{Delta xto0} frac{u(x+Delta x)v(x+Delta x)}{Delta x}-lim_{Delta xto0} frac{u(x)v(x)}{Delta x} \
& = lim_{Delta xto0} frac{u(x+Delta x)}{Delta x}lim_{Delta xto0} v(x+Delta x)-lim_{Delta xto0} frac{u(x)}{Delta x}lim_{Delta xto0} v(x) \
& = lim_{Delta xto0} frac{u(x+Delta x)}{Delta x}v(x)-lim_{Delta xto0} frac{u(x)}{Delta x}v(x) \
& = v(x)(lim_{Delta xto0} frac{u(x+Delta x)}{Delta x}-lim_{Delta xto0} frac{u(x)}{Delta x}) \
& = v(x)lim_{Delta xto0} frac{u(x+Delta x)-u(x)}{Delta x} \
& = u'v
end{align}
Apparently there is a mistake somewhere, but I can't figure out where exactly. Any ideas?
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Most of the limits you have written during your working do not exist due to division by zero. Hence this kind of invalidates the working.
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– Peter Foreman
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Normally a problem comes when you split a limit up into different parts e.g. $$lim_{xto a}f(x)g(x)=left(lim_{xto a}f(x)right)left(lim_{xto a}g(x)right)$$
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$lim_{Delta x rightarrow 0} frac{v(x)u(x)}{Delta x}$ is certainly not defined in general
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– Dayton
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We can't say that $lim_{x to a} f(x) - g(x) = lim_{x to a} f(x) - lim_{x to a} g(x)$ if either $f$ or $g$ do not have a limit as $x$ approaches $a$.
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– littleO
7 hours ago
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as mentioned above, there are division by zero issues, and also, the standard limit rules like $lim (f-g) = lim(f) - lim(g)$ and likewise for products etc are only valid AFTER you know that the limits exist. In your derivation, you applied these limit rules without checking whether the limit actually exists (eg. your second line). I suggest that you do not use the symbols $lim_{Delta x to 0}$ unless you know the limit exists. Instead, start with $dfrac{(fg)(x + Delta x) - (fg)(x)}{Delta x}$, do a bunch of algebra, and only in the final step, take the limit $lim_{Delta x to 0}$.
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Most of the limits you have written during your working do not exist due to division by zero. Hence this kind of invalidates the working.
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– Peter Foreman
8 hours ago
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Normally a problem comes when you split a limit up into different parts e.g. $$lim_{xto a}f(x)g(x)=left(lim_{xto a}f(x)right)left(lim_{xto a}g(x)right)$$
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– Henry Lee
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$lim_{Delta x rightarrow 0} frac{v(x)u(x)}{Delta x}$ is certainly not defined in general
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– Dayton
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We can't say that $lim_{x to a} f(x) - g(x) = lim_{x to a} f(x) - lim_{x to a} g(x)$ if either $f$ or $g$ do not have a limit as $x$ approaches $a$.
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– littleO
7 hours ago
$begingroup$
as mentioned above, there are division by zero issues, and also, the standard limit rules like $lim (f-g) = lim(f) - lim(g)$ and likewise for products etc are only valid AFTER you know that the limits exist. In your derivation, you applied these limit rules without checking whether the limit actually exists (eg. your second line). I suggest that you do not use the symbols $lim_{Delta x to 0}$ unless you know the limit exists. Instead, start with $dfrac{(fg)(x + Delta x) - (fg)(x)}{Delta x}$, do a bunch of algebra, and only in the final step, take the limit $lim_{Delta x to 0}$.
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Most of the limits you have written during your working do not exist due to division by zero. Hence this kind of invalidates the working.
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– Peter Foreman
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Most of the limits you have written during your working do not exist due to division by zero. Hence this kind of invalidates the working.
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– Peter Foreman
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Normally a problem comes when you split a limit up into different parts e.g. $$lim_{xto a}f(x)g(x)=left(lim_{xto a}f(x)right)left(lim_{xto a}g(x)right)$$
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– Henry Lee
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Normally a problem comes when you split a limit up into different parts e.g. $$lim_{xto a}f(x)g(x)=left(lim_{xto a}f(x)right)left(lim_{xto a}g(x)right)$$
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$lim_{Delta x rightarrow 0} frac{v(x)u(x)}{Delta x}$ is certainly not defined in general
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– Dayton
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$lim_{Delta x rightarrow 0} frac{v(x)u(x)}{Delta x}$ is certainly not defined in general
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– Dayton
7 hours ago
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We can't say that $lim_{x to a} f(x) - g(x) = lim_{x to a} f(x) - lim_{x to a} g(x)$ if either $f$ or $g$ do not have a limit as $x$ approaches $a$.
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– littleO
7 hours ago
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We can't say that $lim_{x to a} f(x) - g(x) = lim_{x to a} f(x) - lim_{x to a} g(x)$ if either $f$ or $g$ do not have a limit as $x$ approaches $a$.
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– littleO
7 hours ago
$begingroup$
as mentioned above, there are division by zero issues, and also, the standard limit rules like $lim (f-g) = lim(f) - lim(g)$ and likewise for products etc are only valid AFTER you know that the limits exist. In your derivation, you applied these limit rules without checking whether the limit actually exists (eg. your second line). I suggest that you do not use the symbols $lim_{Delta x to 0}$ unless you know the limit exists. Instead, start with $dfrac{(fg)(x + Delta x) - (fg)(x)}{Delta x}$, do a bunch of algebra, and only in the final step, take the limit $lim_{Delta x to 0}$.
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– peek-a-boo
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as mentioned above, there are division by zero issues, and also, the standard limit rules like $lim (f-g) = lim(f) - lim(g)$ and likewise for products etc are only valid AFTER you know that the limits exist. In your derivation, you applied these limit rules without checking whether the limit actually exists (eg. your second line). I suggest that you do not use the symbols $lim_{Delta x to 0}$ unless you know the limit exists. Instead, start with $dfrac{(fg)(x + Delta x) - (fg)(x)}{Delta x}$, do a bunch of algebra, and only in the final step, take the limit $lim_{Delta x to 0}$.
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I find your notation very cumbersome. Now, taking into account that differentiability implies continuity, we can write
$$frac{f(x)g(x)-f(x_0)g(x_0)}{x-x_0}=frac{f(x)g(x)-f(x)g(x_0)+f(x)g(x_0)-f(x_0)g(x_0)}{x-x_0}=$$
$$=f(x)frac{g(x)-g(x_0)}{x-x_0}+frac{f(x)-f(x_0)}{x-x_0}g(x)xrightarrow[xto x_0]{}f(x_0)g'(x_0)+f'(x_0)g(x_0)$$
Complete details. The above is the easiest proof I know of the product rule for derivative. The trick in the first step is also used in general limits.
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Yes, I know. But for some reason this addition-subtraction step wasn't the first that came to my mind when I decided to do this derivation as a warmup. For me in most cases it's unclear what exactly should I add and subtract to simplify the expression, so usually I prefer to evade such methods.
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That preference is okay, but sometimes it is unevadable. After all, you need to arrange the limit definition of $[uv]'$ into that for $ucdot v'+u'cdot v$. $$lim_{hto 0}tfrac{[uv](x+h)-[uv](x)}h=u(x)lim_{hto 0} tfrac{v(x+h)-v(x)}h+v(x)lim_{hto 0}tfrac{u(x+h)-u(x)}h$$ [The trick is recognising $u(x)=limlimits_{hto 0}u(x{+}h)$]
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This may not be exactly what you are looking for, but one easy way to arrive at the product rule is to use logarithms. So, if $y=uv$ then
begin{align} log{y}&=log{uv}&\
&=log{u} +log{v}end{align}
Hence,
$frac{y'}{y}=frac{u'}{u}+frac{v'}{v}$
Now, multiply by $y$ and you get $y'=u'v+v'u$ I mention this approach only as an alternative since other posters have already given satisfactory explanations using the difference quotient definition. With regard to where you went wrong in your original posting, it is in the second line. You have writen a limit of the form $infty -infty$ which is indeterminate. Remember, $x$ is fixed, so $u(x), v(x)$ are also fixed, therefore, the factor $frac{u(x+Delta x)}{Delta x}$ of the first term in line 4 and $frac{u(x)}{Delta x}$ of the second term of line 4 have infinite limits as $Delta x rightarrow 0$. But really, you already had this error present from line 2.
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Taking the idea that a $u'$ has to do with the change in $u$ over the change in $x$, write $Delta u = u(x+Delta x) - u(x).$
Likewise write $Delta v = v(x+Delta x) - v(x).$
That is, $u(x+Delta x) = u(x) + Delta u$ and $v(x+Delta x) = v(x) + Delta v.$
Now plug this into your first formula and plod along without knowing where we're going until we get there.
begin{align}
(uv)'
&= lim_{Delta xto0} frac{u(x + Delta x)v(x + Delta x) - u(x)v(x)}{Delta x} \
&= lim_{Delta xto0} frac{(u(x) + Delta u)(v(x) + Delta v) - u(x)v(x)}{Delta x} \
&= lim_{Delta xto0} frac{(u(x)v(x) + (Delta u)v(x) + u(x)(Delta v)
+ (Delta u)(Delta v)) - u(x)v(x)}{Delta x} \
&= lim_{Delta xto0} frac{(Delta u)v(x) + u(x)(Delta v)
+ (Delta u)(Delta v)}{Delta x} \
end{align}
Now observe that
begin{align}
lim_{Delta xto0} frac{Delta u}{Delta x}
&= lim_{Delta xto0} frac{u(x+Delta x) - u(x)}{Delta x} = u'(x), \
lim_{Delta xto0} frac{Delta v}{Delta x}
&= lim_{Delta xto0} frac{v(x+Delta x) - v(x)}{Delta x} = u'(x), \
lim_{Delta xto0} frac{(Delta u)(Delta v)}{Delta x}
&= left(lim_{Delta xto0} frac{Delta u}{Delta x}right)
left(lim_{Delta xto0} Delta vright) = 0
end{align}
since $lim_{Delta xto0} Delta v = 0.$
Putting all of this together,
begin{align}
(uv)'
&= v(x)lim_{Delta xto0} frac{Delta u}{Delta x}
+ u(x)lim_{Delta xto0} frac{Delta v}{Delta x}
+ lim_{Delta xto0} frac{(Delta u)(Delta v)}{Delta x} \
&= v(x) u'(x) + u(x) v'(x) + 0 \
&= u' v + u v'.
end{align}
No tricks with adding and subtracting a mysterious term or other great inspiration, just distribution of multiplication over addition and beating on the monster until it's dead.
Personally I like the more inspired solutions, but sometimes when you're stuck for inspiration you can just push your way through.
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Let $h>0$, then
$$frac{u(x+h)v(x+h) - u(x)v(x)}{h} = frac{u(x+h)}{h}v(x+h) -frac{u(x)v(x)}{h}$$
$$=frac{u(x+h)}{h}v(x+h) +frac{u(x)[v(x+h) - v(x) - v(x+h)]}{h}$$
$$= frac{u(x+h) + u(x)}{h}v(x+h) - frac{u(x)[v(x) +v(x+h)] }{h}$$
$$= frac{u(x+h) + u(x)}{h}v(x+h) - frac{u(x)[v(x) -v(x+h) + 2v(x+h)]}{h}$$
$$= frac{u(x+h) - u(x)}{h}v(x+h) + frac{v(x+h) - v(x)}{h}u(x)$$
taking the limit gives
$$(uv)' = u'v + v'u$$
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Remember you may only use the additive and multiplicative rules for limits when you can justify that those limits do have finite convergence. So we just need to arrange the limit definition of $[uv]'$ into that for $ucdot v'+u'cdot v$ (or vice versa). This is fairly straight forward, as long as you recognise that: $u(x)=limlimits_{hto 0}u(x{+}h)$.
$$begin{align}[uv'+u'v](x)&=u(x)left(lim_{hto 0}dfrac{v(x{+}h)-v(x)}{h}right)+left(lim_{hto 0}dfrac{u(x{+}h)-u(x)}{h}right)v(x)
\[1ex]&= left(lim_{hto 0}u(x{+}h)right)left(lim_{hto 0}dfrac{v(x{+}h)-v(x)}{h}right)+left(lim_{hto 0}dfrac{u(x{+}h)-u(x)}{h}right)v(x)
\[1ex]&=lim_{hto 0}dfrac{u(x{+}h)left(v(x{+}h)-v(x)right)+left(u(x{+}h)-u(x)right)v(x)}{h}\[1ex]&=lim_{hto x}dfrac{u(x{+}h),v(x{+}h)-u(x{+}h),v(x)+u(x{+}h),v(x)-u(x),v(x)}{h}\[1ex]&=lim_{hto 0}dfrac{u(x{+}h),v(x{+}h)-u(x),v(x)}{h}\[3ex][uv'+u'v](x)&= [uv]'(x)end{align}$$
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I find your notation very cumbersome. Now, taking into account that differentiability implies continuity, we can write
$$frac{f(x)g(x)-f(x_0)g(x_0)}{x-x_0}=frac{f(x)g(x)-f(x)g(x_0)+f(x)g(x_0)-f(x_0)g(x_0)}{x-x_0}=$$
$$=f(x)frac{g(x)-g(x_0)}{x-x_0}+frac{f(x)-f(x_0)}{x-x_0}g(x)xrightarrow[xto x_0]{}f(x_0)g'(x_0)+f'(x_0)g(x_0)$$
Complete details. The above is the easiest proof I know of the product rule for derivative. The trick in the first step is also used in general limits.
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Yes, I know. But for some reason this addition-subtraction step wasn't the first that came to my mind when I decided to do this derivation as a warmup. For me in most cases it's unclear what exactly should I add and subtract to simplify the expression, so usually I prefer to evade such methods.
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That preference is okay, but sometimes it is unevadable. After all, you need to arrange the limit definition of $[uv]'$ into that for $ucdot v'+u'cdot v$. $$lim_{hto 0}tfrac{[uv](x+h)-[uv](x)}h=u(x)lim_{hto 0} tfrac{v(x+h)-v(x)}h+v(x)lim_{hto 0}tfrac{u(x+h)-u(x)}h$$ [The trick is recognising $u(x)=limlimits_{hto 0}u(x{+}h)$]
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I find your notation very cumbersome. Now, taking into account that differentiability implies continuity, we can write
$$frac{f(x)g(x)-f(x_0)g(x_0)}{x-x_0}=frac{f(x)g(x)-f(x)g(x_0)+f(x)g(x_0)-f(x_0)g(x_0)}{x-x_0}=$$
$$=f(x)frac{g(x)-g(x_0)}{x-x_0}+frac{f(x)-f(x_0)}{x-x_0}g(x)xrightarrow[xto x_0]{}f(x_0)g'(x_0)+f'(x_0)g(x_0)$$
Complete details. The above is the easiest proof I know of the product rule for derivative. The trick in the first step is also used in general limits.
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Yes, I know. But for some reason this addition-subtraction step wasn't the first that came to my mind when I decided to do this derivation as a warmup. For me in most cases it's unclear what exactly should I add and subtract to simplify the expression, so usually I prefer to evade such methods.
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That preference is okay, but sometimes it is unevadable. After all, you need to arrange the limit definition of $[uv]'$ into that for $ucdot v'+u'cdot v$. $$lim_{hto 0}tfrac{[uv](x+h)-[uv](x)}h=u(x)lim_{hto 0} tfrac{v(x+h)-v(x)}h+v(x)lim_{hto 0}tfrac{u(x+h)-u(x)}h$$ [The trick is recognising $u(x)=limlimits_{hto 0}u(x{+}h)$]
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I find your notation very cumbersome. Now, taking into account that differentiability implies continuity, we can write
$$frac{f(x)g(x)-f(x_0)g(x_0)}{x-x_0}=frac{f(x)g(x)-f(x)g(x_0)+f(x)g(x_0)-f(x_0)g(x_0)}{x-x_0}=$$
$$=f(x)frac{g(x)-g(x_0)}{x-x_0}+frac{f(x)-f(x_0)}{x-x_0}g(x)xrightarrow[xto x_0]{}f(x_0)g'(x_0)+f'(x_0)g(x_0)$$
Complete details. The above is the easiest proof I know of the product rule for derivative. The trick in the first step is also used in general limits.
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I find your notation very cumbersome. Now, taking into account that differentiability implies continuity, we can write
$$frac{f(x)g(x)-f(x_0)g(x_0)}{x-x_0}=frac{f(x)g(x)-f(x)g(x_0)+f(x)g(x_0)-f(x_0)g(x_0)}{x-x_0}=$$
$$=f(x)frac{g(x)-g(x_0)}{x-x_0}+frac{f(x)-f(x_0)}{x-x_0}g(x)xrightarrow[xto x_0]{}f(x_0)g'(x_0)+f'(x_0)g(x_0)$$
Complete details. The above is the easiest proof I know of the product rule for derivative. The trick in the first step is also used in general limits.
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Yes, I know. But for some reason this addition-subtraction step wasn't the first that came to my mind when I decided to do this derivation as a warmup. For me in most cases it's unclear what exactly should I add and subtract to simplify the expression, so usually I prefer to evade such methods.
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That preference is okay, but sometimes it is unevadable. After all, you need to arrange the limit definition of $[uv]'$ into that for $ucdot v'+u'cdot v$. $$lim_{hto 0}tfrac{[uv](x+h)-[uv](x)}h=u(x)lim_{hto 0} tfrac{v(x+h)-v(x)}h+v(x)lim_{hto 0}tfrac{u(x+h)-u(x)}h$$ [The trick is recognising $u(x)=limlimits_{hto 0}u(x{+}h)$]
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Yes, I know. But for some reason this addition-subtraction step wasn't the first that came to my mind when I decided to do this derivation as a warmup. For me in most cases it's unclear what exactly should I add and subtract to simplify the expression, so usually I prefer to evade such methods.
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That preference is okay, but sometimes it is unevadable. After all, you need to arrange the limit definition of $[uv]'$ into that for $ucdot v'+u'cdot v$. $$lim_{hto 0}tfrac{[uv](x+h)-[uv](x)}h=u(x)lim_{hto 0} tfrac{v(x+h)-v(x)}h+v(x)lim_{hto 0}tfrac{u(x+h)-u(x)}h$$ [The trick is recognising $u(x)=limlimits_{hto 0}u(x{+}h)$]
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Yes, I know. But for some reason this addition-subtraction step wasn't the first that came to my mind when I decided to do this derivation as a warmup. For me in most cases it's unclear what exactly should I add and subtract to simplify the expression, so usually I prefer to evade such methods.
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Yes, I know. But for some reason this addition-subtraction step wasn't the first that came to my mind when I decided to do this derivation as a warmup. For me in most cases it's unclear what exactly should I add and subtract to simplify the expression, so usually I prefer to evade such methods.
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That preference is okay, but sometimes it is unevadable. After all, you need to arrange the limit definition of $[uv]'$ into that for $ucdot v'+u'cdot v$. $$lim_{hto 0}tfrac{[uv](x+h)-[uv](x)}h=u(x)lim_{hto 0} tfrac{v(x+h)-v(x)}h+v(x)lim_{hto 0}tfrac{u(x+h)-u(x)}h$$ [The trick is recognising $u(x)=limlimits_{hto 0}u(x{+}h)$]
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That preference is okay, but sometimes it is unevadable. After all, you need to arrange the limit definition of $[uv]'$ into that for $ucdot v'+u'cdot v$. $$lim_{hto 0}tfrac{[uv](x+h)-[uv](x)}h=u(x)lim_{hto 0} tfrac{v(x+h)-v(x)}h+v(x)lim_{hto 0}tfrac{u(x+h)-u(x)}h$$ [The trick is recognising $u(x)=limlimits_{hto 0}u(x{+}h)$]
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This may not be exactly what you are looking for, but one easy way to arrive at the product rule is to use logarithms. So, if $y=uv$ then
begin{align} log{y}&=log{uv}&\
&=log{u} +log{v}end{align}
Hence,
$frac{y'}{y}=frac{u'}{u}+frac{v'}{v}$
Now, multiply by $y$ and you get $y'=u'v+v'u$ I mention this approach only as an alternative since other posters have already given satisfactory explanations using the difference quotient definition. With regard to where you went wrong in your original posting, it is in the second line. You have writen a limit of the form $infty -infty$ which is indeterminate. Remember, $x$ is fixed, so $u(x), v(x)$ are also fixed, therefore, the factor $frac{u(x+Delta x)}{Delta x}$ of the first term in line 4 and $frac{u(x)}{Delta x}$ of the second term of line 4 have infinite limits as $Delta x rightarrow 0$. But really, you already had this error present from line 2.
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This may not be exactly what you are looking for, but one easy way to arrive at the product rule is to use logarithms. So, if $y=uv$ then
begin{align} log{y}&=log{uv}&\
&=log{u} +log{v}end{align}
Hence,
$frac{y'}{y}=frac{u'}{u}+frac{v'}{v}$
Now, multiply by $y$ and you get $y'=u'v+v'u$ I mention this approach only as an alternative since other posters have already given satisfactory explanations using the difference quotient definition. With regard to where you went wrong in your original posting, it is in the second line. You have writen a limit of the form $infty -infty$ which is indeterminate. Remember, $x$ is fixed, so $u(x), v(x)$ are also fixed, therefore, the factor $frac{u(x+Delta x)}{Delta x}$ of the first term in line 4 and $frac{u(x)}{Delta x}$ of the second term of line 4 have infinite limits as $Delta x rightarrow 0$. But really, you already had this error present from line 2.
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This may not be exactly what you are looking for, but one easy way to arrive at the product rule is to use logarithms. So, if $y=uv$ then
begin{align} log{y}&=log{uv}&\
&=log{u} +log{v}end{align}
Hence,
$frac{y'}{y}=frac{u'}{u}+frac{v'}{v}$
Now, multiply by $y$ and you get $y'=u'v+v'u$ I mention this approach only as an alternative since other posters have already given satisfactory explanations using the difference quotient definition. With regard to where you went wrong in your original posting, it is in the second line. You have writen a limit of the form $infty -infty$ which is indeterminate. Remember, $x$ is fixed, so $u(x), v(x)$ are also fixed, therefore, the factor $frac{u(x+Delta x)}{Delta x}$ of the first term in line 4 and $frac{u(x)}{Delta x}$ of the second term of line 4 have infinite limits as $Delta x rightarrow 0$. But really, you already had this error present from line 2.
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This may not be exactly what you are looking for, but one easy way to arrive at the product rule is to use logarithms. So, if $y=uv$ then
begin{align} log{y}&=log{uv}&\
&=log{u} +log{v}end{align}
Hence,
$frac{y'}{y}=frac{u'}{u}+frac{v'}{v}$
Now, multiply by $y$ and you get $y'=u'v+v'u$ I mention this approach only as an alternative since other posters have already given satisfactory explanations using the difference quotient definition. With regard to where you went wrong in your original posting, it is in the second line. You have writen a limit of the form $infty -infty$ which is indeterminate. Remember, $x$ is fixed, so $u(x), v(x)$ are also fixed, therefore, the factor $frac{u(x+Delta x)}{Delta x}$ of the first term in line 4 and $frac{u(x)}{Delta x}$ of the second term of line 4 have infinite limits as $Delta x rightarrow 0$. But really, you already had this error present from line 2.
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Taking the idea that a $u'$ has to do with the change in $u$ over the change in $x$, write $Delta u = u(x+Delta x) - u(x).$
Likewise write $Delta v = v(x+Delta x) - v(x).$
That is, $u(x+Delta x) = u(x) + Delta u$ and $v(x+Delta x) = v(x) + Delta v.$
Now plug this into your first formula and plod along without knowing where we're going until we get there.
begin{align}
(uv)'
&= lim_{Delta xto0} frac{u(x + Delta x)v(x + Delta x) - u(x)v(x)}{Delta x} \
&= lim_{Delta xto0} frac{(u(x) + Delta u)(v(x) + Delta v) - u(x)v(x)}{Delta x} \
&= lim_{Delta xto0} frac{(u(x)v(x) + (Delta u)v(x) + u(x)(Delta v)
+ (Delta u)(Delta v)) - u(x)v(x)}{Delta x} \
&= lim_{Delta xto0} frac{(Delta u)v(x) + u(x)(Delta v)
+ (Delta u)(Delta v)}{Delta x} \
end{align}
Now observe that
begin{align}
lim_{Delta xto0} frac{Delta u}{Delta x}
&= lim_{Delta xto0} frac{u(x+Delta x) - u(x)}{Delta x} = u'(x), \
lim_{Delta xto0} frac{Delta v}{Delta x}
&= lim_{Delta xto0} frac{v(x+Delta x) - v(x)}{Delta x} = u'(x), \
lim_{Delta xto0} frac{(Delta u)(Delta v)}{Delta x}
&= left(lim_{Delta xto0} frac{Delta u}{Delta x}right)
left(lim_{Delta xto0} Delta vright) = 0
end{align}
since $lim_{Delta xto0} Delta v = 0.$
Putting all of this together,
begin{align}
(uv)'
&= v(x)lim_{Delta xto0} frac{Delta u}{Delta x}
+ u(x)lim_{Delta xto0} frac{Delta v}{Delta x}
+ lim_{Delta xto0} frac{(Delta u)(Delta v)}{Delta x} \
&= v(x) u'(x) + u(x) v'(x) + 0 \
&= u' v + u v'.
end{align}
No tricks with adding and subtracting a mysterious term or other great inspiration, just distribution of multiplication over addition and beating on the monster until it's dead.
Personally I like the more inspired solutions, but sometimes when you're stuck for inspiration you can just push your way through.
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Taking the idea that a $u'$ has to do with the change in $u$ over the change in $x$, write $Delta u = u(x+Delta x) - u(x).$
Likewise write $Delta v = v(x+Delta x) - v(x).$
That is, $u(x+Delta x) = u(x) + Delta u$ and $v(x+Delta x) = v(x) + Delta v.$
Now plug this into your first formula and plod along without knowing where we're going until we get there.
begin{align}
(uv)'
&= lim_{Delta xto0} frac{u(x + Delta x)v(x + Delta x) - u(x)v(x)}{Delta x} \
&= lim_{Delta xto0} frac{(u(x) + Delta u)(v(x) + Delta v) - u(x)v(x)}{Delta x} \
&= lim_{Delta xto0} frac{(u(x)v(x) + (Delta u)v(x) + u(x)(Delta v)
+ (Delta u)(Delta v)) - u(x)v(x)}{Delta x} \
&= lim_{Delta xto0} frac{(Delta u)v(x) + u(x)(Delta v)
+ (Delta u)(Delta v)}{Delta x} \
end{align}
Now observe that
begin{align}
lim_{Delta xto0} frac{Delta u}{Delta x}
&= lim_{Delta xto0} frac{u(x+Delta x) - u(x)}{Delta x} = u'(x), \
lim_{Delta xto0} frac{Delta v}{Delta x}
&= lim_{Delta xto0} frac{v(x+Delta x) - v(x)}{Delta x} = u'(x), \
lim_{Delta xto0} frac{(Delta u)(Delta v)}{Delta x}
&= left(lim_{Delta xto0} frac{Delta u}{Delta x}right)
left(lim_{Delta xto0} Delta vright) = 0
end{align}
since $lim_{Delta xto0} Delta v = 0.$
Putting all of this together,
begin{align}
(uv)'
&= v(x)lim_{Delta xto0} frac{Delta u}{Delta x}
+ u(x)lim_{Delta xto0} frac{Delta v}{Delta x}
+ lim_{Delta xto0} frac{(Delta u)(Delta v)}{Delta x} \
&= v(x) u'(x) + u(x) v'(x) + 0 \
&= u' v + u v'.
end{align}
No tricks with adding and subtracting a mysterious term or other great inspiration, just distribution of multiplication over addition and beating on the monster until it's dead.
Personally I like the more inspired solutions, but sometimes when you're stuck for inspiration you can just push your way through.
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Taking the idea that a $u'$ has to do with the change in $u$ over the change in $x$, write $Delta u = u(x+Delta x) - u(x).$
Likewise write $Delta v = v(x+Delta x) - v(x).$
That is, $u(x+Delta x) = u(x) + Delta u$ and $v(x+Delta x) = v(x) + Delta v.$
Now plug this into your first formula and plod along without knowing where we're going until we get there.
begin{align}
(uv)'
&= lim_{Delta xto0} frac{u(x + Delta x)v(x + Delta x) - u(x)v(x)}{Delta x} \
&= lim_{Delta xto0} frac{(u(x) + Delta u)(v(x) + Delta v) - u(x)v(x)}{Delta x} \
&= lim_{Delta xto0} frac{(u(x)v(x) + (Delta u)v(x) + u(x)(Delta v)
+ (Delta u)(Delta v)) - u(x)v(x)}{Delta x} \
&= lim_{Delta xto0} frac{(Delta u)v(x) + u(x)(Delta v)
+ (Delta u)(Delta v)}{Delta x} \
end{align}
Now observe that
begin{align}
lim_{Delta xto0} frac{Delta u}{Delta x}
&= lim_{Delta xto0} frac{u(x+Delta x) - u(x)}{Delta x} = u'(x), \
lim_{Delta xto0} frac{Delta v}{Delta x}
&= lim_{Delta xto0} frac{v(x+Delta x) - v(x)}{Delta x} = u'(x), \
lim_{Delta xto0} frac{(Delta u)(Delta v)}{Delta x}
&= left(lim_{Delta xto0} frac{Delta u}{Delta x}right)
left(lim_{Delta xto0} Delta vright) = 0
end{align}
since $lim_{Delta xto0} Delta v = 0.$
Putting all of this together,
begin{align}
(uv)'
&= v(x)lim_{Delta xto0} frac{Delta u}{Delta x}
+ u(x)lim_{Delta xto0} frac{Delta v}{Delta x}
+ lim_{Delta xto0} frac{(Delta u)(Delta v)}{Delta x} \
&= v(x) u'(x) + u(x) v'(x) + 0 \
&= u' v + u v'.
end{align}
No tricks with adding and subtracting a mysterious term or other great inspiration, just distribution of multiplication over addition and beating on the monster until it's dead.
Personally I like the more inspired solutions, but sometimes when you're stuck for inspiration you can just push your way through.
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Taking the idea that a $u'$ has to do with the change in $u$ over the change in $x$, write $Delta u = u(x+Delta x) - u(x).$
Likewise write $Delta v = v(x+Delta x) - v(x).$
That is, $u(x+Delta x) = u(x) + Delta u$ and $v(x+Delta x) = v(x) + Delta v.$
Now plug this into your first formula and plod along without knowing where we're going until we get there.
begin{align}
(uv)'
&= lim_{Delta xto0} frac{u(x + Delta x)v(x + Delta x) - u(x)v(x)}{Delta x} \
&= lim_{Delta xto0} frac{(u(x) + Delta u)(v(x) + Delta v) - u(x)v(x)}{Delta x} \
&= lim_{Delta xto0} frac{(u(x)v(x) + (Delta u)v(x) + u(x)(Delta v)
+ (Delta u)(Delta v)) - u(x)v(x)}{Delta x} \
&= lim_{Delta xto0} frac{(Delta u)v(x) + u(x)(Delta v)
+ (Delta u)(Delta v)}{Delta x} \
end{align}
Now observe that
begin{align}
lim_{Delta xto0} frac{Delta u}{Delta x}
&= lim_{Delta xto0} frac{u(x+Delta x) - u(x)}{Delta x} = u'(x), \
lim_{Delta xto0} frac{Delta v}{Delta x}
&= lim_{Delta xto0} frac{v(x+Delta x) - v(x)}{Delta x} = u'(x), \
lim_{Delta xto0} frac{(Delta u)(Delta v)}{Delta x}
&= left(lim_{Delta xto0} frac{Delta u}{Delta x}right)
left(lim_{Delta xto0} Delta vright) = 0
end{align}
since $lim_{Delta xto0} Delta v = 0.$
Putting all of this together,
begin{align}
(uv)'
&= v(x)lim_{Delta xto0} frac{Delta u}{Delta x}
+ u(x)lim_{Delta xto0} frac{Delta v}{Delta x}
+ lim_{Delta xto0} frac{(Delta u)(Delta v)}{Delta x} \
&= v(x) u'(x) + u(x) v'(x) + 0 \
&= u' v + u v'.
end{align}
No tricks with adding and subtracting a mysterious term or other great inspiration, just distribution of multiplication over addition and beating on the monster until it's dead.
Personally I like the more inspired solutions, but sometimes when you're stuck for inspiration you can just push your way through.
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Let $h>0$, then
$$frac{u(x+h)v(x+h) - u(x)v(x)}{h} = frac{u(x+h)}{h}v(x+h) -frac{u(x)v(x)}{h}$$
$$=frac{u(x+h)}{h}v(x+h) +frac{u(x)[v(x+h) - v(x) - v(x+h)]}{h}$$
$$= frac{u(x+h) + u(x)}{h}v(x+h) - frac{u(x)[v(x) +v(x+h)] }{h}$$
$$= frac{u(x+h) + u(x)}{h}v(x+h) - frac{u(x)[v(x) -v(x+h) + 2v(x+h)]}{h}$$
$$= frac{u(x+h) - u(x)}{h}v(x+h) + frac{v(x+h) - v(x)}{h}u(x)$$
taking the limit gives
$$(uv)' = u'v + v'u$$
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Let $h>0$, then
$$frac{u(x+h)v(x+h) - u(x)v(x)}{h} = frac{u(x+h)}{h}v(x+h) -frac{u(x)v(x)}{h}$$
$$=frac{u(x+h)}{h}v(x+h) +frac{u(x)[v(x+h) - v(x) - v(x+h)]}{h}$$
$$= frac{u(x+h) + u(x)}{h}v(x+h) - frac{u(x)[v(x) +v(x+h)] }{h}$$
$$= frac{u(x+h) + u(x)}{h}v(x+h) - frac{u(x)[v(x) -v(x+h) + 2v(x+h)]}{h}$$
$$= frac{u(x+h) - u(x)}{h}v(x+h) + frac{v(x+h) - v(x)}{h}u(x)$$
taking the limit gives
$$(uv)' = u'v + v'u$$
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Let $h>0$, then
$$frac{u(x+h)v(x+h) - u(x)v(x)}{h} = frac{u(x+h)}{h}v(x+h) -frac{u(x)v(x)}{h}$$
$$=frac{u(x+h)}{h}v(x+h) +frac{u(x)[v(x+h) - v(x) - v(x+h)]}{h}$$
$$= frac{u(x+h) + u(x)}{h}v(x+h) - frac{u(x)[v(x) +v(x+h)] }{h}$$
$$= frac{u(x+h) + u(x)}{h}v(x+h) - frac{u(x)[v(x) -v(x+h) + 2v(x+h)]}{h}$$
$$= frac{u(x+h) - u(x)}{h}v(x+h) + frac{v(x+h) - v(x)}{h}u(x)$$
taking the limit gives
$$(uv)' = u'v + v'u$$
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Let $h>0$, then
$$frac{u(x+h)v(x+h) - u(x)v(x)}{h} = frac{u(x+h)}{h}v(x+h) -frac{u(x)v(x)}{h}$$
$$=frac{u(x+h)}{h}v(x+h) +frac{u(x)[v(x+h) - v(x) - v(x+h)]}{h}$$
$$= frac{u(x+h) + u(x)}{h}v(x+h) - frac{u(x)[v(x) +v(x+h)] }{h}$$
$$= frac{u(x+h) + u(x)}{h}v(x+h) - frac{u(x)[v(x) -v(x+h) + 2v(x+h)]}{h}$$
$$= frac{u(x+h) - u(x)}{h}v(x+h) + frac{v(x+h) - v(x)}{h}u(x)$$
taking the limit gives
$$(uv)' = u'v + v'u$$
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Remember you may only use the additive and multiplicative rules for limits when you can justify that those limits do have finite convergence. So we just need to arrange the limit definition of $[uv]'$ into that for $ucdot v'+u'cdot v$ (or vice versa). This is fairly straight forward, as long as you recognise that: $u(x)=limlimits_{hto 0}u(x{+}h)$.
$$begin{align}[uv'+u'v](x)&=u(x)left(lim_{hto 0}dfrac{v(x{+}h)-v(x)}{h}right)+left(lim_{hto 0}dfrac{u(x{+}h)-u(x)}{h}right)v(x)
\[1ex]&= left(lim_{hto 0}u(x{+}h)right)left(lim_{hto 0}dfrac{v(x{+}h)-v(x)}{h}right)+left(lim_{hto 0}dfrac{u(x{+}h)-u(x)}{h}right)v(x)
\[1ex]&=lim_{hto 0}dfrac{u(x{+}h)left(v(x{+}h)-v(x)right)+left(u(x{+}h)-u(x)right)v(x)}{h}\[1ex]&=lim_{hto x}dfrac{u(x{+}h),v(x{+}h)-u(x{+}h),v(x)+u(x{+}h),v(x)-u(x),v(x)}{h}\[1ex]&=lim_{hto 0}dfrac{u(x{+}h),v(x{+}h)-u(x),v(x)}{h}\[3ex][uv'+u'v](x)&= [uv]'(x)end{align}$$
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Remember you may only use the additive and multiplicative rules for limits when you can justify that those limits do have finite convergence. So we just need to arrange the limit definition of $[uv]'$ into that for $ucdot v'+u'cdot v$ (or vice versa). This is fairly straight forward, as long as you recognise that: $u(x)=limlimits_{hto 0}u(x{+}h)$.
$$begin{align}[uv'+u'v](x)&=u(x)left(lim_{hto 0}dfrac{v(x{+}h)-v(x)}{h}right)+left(lim_{hto 0}dfrac{u(x{+}h)-u(x)}{h}right)v(x)
\[1ex]&= left(lim_{hto 0}u(x{+}h)right)left(lim_{hto 0}dfrac{v(x{+}h)-v(x)}{h}right)+left(lim_{hto 0}dfrac{u(x{+}h)-u(x)}{h}right)v(x)
\[1ex]&=lim_{hto 0}dfrac{u(x{+}h)left(v(x{+}h)-v(x)right)+left(u(x{+}h)-u(x)right)v(x)}{h}\[1ex]&=lim_{hto x}dfrac{u(x{+}h),v(x{+}h)-u(x{+}h),v(x)+u(x{+}h),v(x)-u(x),v(x)}{h}\[1ex]&=lim_{hto 0}dfrac{u(x{+}h),v(x{+}h)-u(x),v(x)}{h}\[3ex][uv'+u'v](x)&= [uv]'(x)end{align}$$
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Remember you may only use the additive and multiplicative rules for limits when you can justify that those limits do have finite convergence. So we just need to arrange the limit definition of $[uv]'$ into that for $ucdot v'+u'cdot v$ (or vice versa). This is fairly straight forward, as long as you recognise that: $u(x)=limlimits_{hto 0}u(x{+}h)$.
$$begin{align}[uv'+u'v](x)&=u(x)left(lim_{hto 0}dfrac{v(x{+}h)-v(x)}{h}right)+left(lim_{hto 0}dfrac{u(x{+}h)-u(x)}{h}right)v(x)
\[1ex]&= left(lim_{hto 0}u(x{+}h)right)left(lim_{hto 0}dfrac{v(x{+}h)-v(x)}{h}right)+left(lim_{hto 0}dfrac{u(x{+}h)-u(x)}{h}right)v(x)
\[1ex]&=lim_{hto 0}dfrac{u(x{+}h)left(v(x{+}h)-v(x)right)+left(u(x{+}h)-u(x)right)v(x)}{h}\[1ex]&=lim_{hto x}dfrac{u(x{+}h),v(x{+}h)-u(x{+}h),v(x)+u(x{+}h),v(x)-u(x),v(x)}{h}\[1ex]&=lim_{hto 0}dfrac{u(x{+}h),v(x{+}h)-u(x),v(x)}{h}\[3ex][uv'+u'v](x)&= [uv]'(x)end{align}$$
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Remember you may only use the additive and multiplicative rules for limits when you can justify that those limits do have finite convergence. So we just need to arrange the limit definition of $[uv]'$ into that for $ucdot v'+u'cdot v$ (or vice versa). This is fairly straight forward, as long as you recognise that: $u(x)=limlimits_{hto 0}u(x{+}h)$.
$$begin{align}[uv'+u'v](x)&=u(x)left(lim_{hto 0}dfrac{v(x{+}h)-v(x)}{h}right)+left(lim_{hto 0}dfrac{u(x{+}h)-u(x)}{h}right)v(x)
\[1ex]&= left(lim_{hto 0}u(x{+}h)right)left(lim_{hto 0}dfrac{v(x{+}h)-v(x)}{h}right)+left(lim_{hto 0}dfrac{u(x{+}h)-u(x)}{h}right)v(x)
\[1ex]&=lim_{hto 0}dfrac{u(x{+}h)left(v(x{+}h)-v(x)right)+left(u(x{+}h)-u(x)right)v(x)}{h}\[1ex]&=lim_{hto x}dfrac{u(x{+}h),v(x{+}h)-u(x{+}h),v(x)+u(x{+}h),v(x)-u(x),v(x)}{h}\[1ex]&=lim_{hto 0}dfrac{u(x{+}h),v(x{+}h)-u(x),v(x)}{h}\[3ex][uv'+u'v](x)&= [uv]'(x)end{align}$$
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Most of the limits you have written during your working do not exist due to division by zero. Hence this kind of invalidates the working.
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– Peter Foreman
8 hours ago
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Normally a problem comes when you split a limit up into different parts e.g. $$lim_{xto a}f(x)g(x)=left(lim_{xto a}f(x)right)left(lim_{xto a}g(x)right)$$
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– Henry Lee
8 hours ago
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$lim_{Delta x rightarrow 0} frac{v(x)u(x)}{Delta x}$ is certainly not defined in general
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– Dayton
7 hours ago
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We can't say that $lim_{x to a} f(x) - g(x) = lim_{x to a} f(x) - lim_{x to a} g(x)$ if either $f$ or $g$ do not have a limit as $x$ approaches $a$.
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– littleO
7 hours ago
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as mentioned above, there are division by zero issues, and also, the standard limit rules like $lim (f-g) = lim(f) - lim(g)$ and likewise for products etc are only valid AFTER you know that the limits exist. In your derivation, you applied these limit rules without checking whether the limit actually exists (eg. your second line). I suggest that you do not use the symbols $lim_{Delta x to 0}$ unless you know the limit exists. Instead, start with $dfrac{(fg)(x + Delta x) - (fg)(x)}{Delta x}$, do a bunch of algebra, and only in the final step, take the limit $lim_{Delta x to 0}$.
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– peek-a-boo
7 hours ago