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Does one in jail need to put a mezuzah on his cell? Assuming this is a standard American jail.



If it is a jail owned by a Jew, is there an obligation on the inmate or the owner?










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  • Can we assume the jail cell and its doorway are structured appropriately to need it and your question is just about sufficient ownership?

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  • @DoubleAA I haven’t visited any jails, but I’m assuming it checks out. Or, the answer I’m writing takes it for granted in the source.

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  • Apparently cell sizes in the us are usually 6'x8' which is borderline sufficient size depending how big an ammah is.

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Does one in jail need to put a mezuzah on his cell? Assuming this is a standard American jail.



If it is a jail owned by a Jew, is there an obligation on the inmate or the owner?










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    – Double AA
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  • @DoubleAA I haven’t visited any jails, but I’m assuming it checks out. Or, the answer I’m writing takes it for granted in the source.

    – Dr. Shmuel
    9 hours ago











  • Apparently cell sizes in the us are usually 6'x8' which is borderline sufficient size depending how big an ammah is.

    – Double AA
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Does one in jail need to put a mezuzah on his cell? Assuming this is a standard American jail.



If it is a jail owned by a Jew, is there an obligation on the inmate or the owner?










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If it is a jail owned by a Jew, is there an obligation on the inmate or the owner?







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  • Can we assume the jail cell and its doorway are structured appropriately to need it and your question is just about sufficient ownership?

    – Double AA
    9 hours ago













  • @DoubleAA I haven’t visited any jails, but I’m assuming it checks out. Or, the answer I’m writing takes it for granted in the source.

    – Dr. Shmuel
    9 hours ago











  • Apparently cell sizes in the us are usually 6'x8' which is borderline sufficient size depending how big an ammah is.

    – Double AA
    8 hours ago



















  • Can we assume the jail cell and its doorway are structured appropriately to need it and your question is just about sufficient ownership?

    – Double AA
    9 hours ago













  • @DoubleAA I haven’t visited any jails, but I’m assuming it checks out. Or, the answer I’m writing takes it for granted in the source.

    – Dr. Shmuel
    9 hours ago











  • Apparently cell sizes in the us are usually 6'x8' which is borderline sufficient size depending how big an ammah is.

    – Double AA
    8 hours ago

















Can we assume the jail cell and its doorway are structured appropriately to need it and your question is just about sufficient ownership?

– Double AA
9 hours ago







Can we assume the jail cell and its doorway are structured appropriately to need it and your question is just about sufficient ownership?

– Double AA
9 hours ago















@DoubleAA I haven’t visited any jails, but I’m assuming it checks out. Or, the answer I’m writing takes it for granted in the source.

– Dr. Shmuel
9 hours ago





@DoubleAA I haven’t visited any jails, but I’m assuming it checks out. Or, the answer I’m writing takes it for granted in the source.

– Dr. Shmuel
9 hours ago













Apparently cell sizes in the us are usually 6'x8' which is borderline sufficient size depending how big an ammah is.

– Double AA
8 hours ago





Apparently cell sizes in the us are usually 6'x8' which is borderline sufficient size depending how big an ammah is.

– Double AA
8 hours ago










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This is actually addressed by the Chida in his Birkei Yosef 286:3. He brings the Bais Hillel(not to be confused with Bais Hillel from the gemara) who holds that a jail is not a dwelling of honor,so would be patur from a mezuzah. He also brings a proof from the gemara Yoma 10b which seems to imply that a jail would not require a mezuzah.



The Chida himself seems to disagree with the proof from the gemara and on the grounds of it being a dira l'kovod it would require a mezuzah. (The Shaar Ephraim also implies this).



However, the Chida ends off saying that maybe a jail would be exempt on premise that it's not made for permanent dwelling and only temporary like a boat dwelling. However, it seems that its inconclusive.



Text of the Birkei Yosef:



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    don't jail cells typically include toilets?

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  • Might have a steel wall type mechetzia

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R Gersion Appel here answers your question




A Jew who is serving a sentence does not require a mezuza on his
prison cell, as it is not deemed a respectable residence and it is
unlikely that he would consider it his permanent dwelling.




This is based on Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 11:14




A house that is not designated for permanent dwelling does not require
a mezuzah




This is also in line with the first view described by yeshiva.co.il here. See there for further analysis.



A jail owned by a Jew would not impose a requirement of mezuza on the owner either, see Mishne Torah Mezuza 5:11, here from R Yirmiyohu Kaganoff or this MY question.



Note it is possible the halacha will be different in Israel (see the sources at the beginning of this MY question). And of course, consult your rabbi
before implementing anything you learn here.






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    Leket Hakemach (YD, Mezuzah s.v. Kahal) explains Shaar Ephraim (83) that one who is in a Jewish jail [for several months] is required to affix a mezuzah. His reasoning is that Rambam (Mezuzah 6) did not enumerate a jail as one of ten things which do not require a mezuzah. Shaar Ephraim also brings proof from the Rabbi’s opinion in Yoma (10b) that even one living against their will is still considered a regular living place, and is required to affix a mezuzah.






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      don't jail cells typically include toilets?

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    This is actually addressed by the Chida in his Birkei Yosef 286:3. He brings the Bais Hillel(not to be confused with Bais Hillel from the gemara) who holds that a jail is not a dwelling of honor,so would be patur from a mezuzah. He also brings a proof from the gemara Yoma 10b which seems to imply that a jail would not require a mezuzah.



    The Chida himself seems to disagree with the proof from the gemara and on the grounds of it being a dira l'kovod it would require a mezuzah. (The Shaar Ephraim also implies this).



    However, the Chida ends off saying that maybe a jail would be exempt on premise that it's not made for permanent dwelling and only temporary like a boat dwelling. However, it seems that its inconclusive.



    Text of the Birkei Yosef:



    enter image description here






    share|improve this answer





















    • 1





      don't jail cells typically include toilets?

      – Loewian
      7 hours ago











    • Might have a steel wall type mechetzia

      – sam
      7 hours ago
















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    This is actually addressed by the Chida in his Birkei Yosef 286:3. He brings the Bais Hillel(not to be confused with Bais Hillel from the gemara) who holds that a jail is not a dwelling of honor,so would be patur from a mezuzah. He also brings a proof from the gemara Yoma 10b which seems to imply that a jail would not require a mezuzah.



    The Chida himself seems to disagree with the proof from the gemara and on the grounds of it being a dira l'kovod it would require a mezuzah. (The Shaar Ephraim also implies this).



    However, the Chida ends off saying that maybe a jail would be exempt on premise that it's not made for permanent dwelling and only temporary like a boat dwelling. However, it seems that its inconclusive.



    Text of the Birkei Yosef:



    enter image description here






    share|improve this answer





















    • 1





      don't jail cells typically include toilets?

      – Loewian
      7 hours ago











    • Might have a steel wall type mechetzia

      – sam
      7 hours ago














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    This is actually addressed by the Chida in his Birkei Yosef 286:3. He brings the Bais Hillel(not to be confused with Bais Hillel from the gemara) who holds that a jail is not a dwelling of honor,so would be patur from a mezuzah. He also brings a proof from the gemara Yoma 10b which seems to imply that a jail would not require a mezuzah.



    The Chida himself seems to disagree with the proof from the gemara and on the grounds of it being a dira l'kovod it would require a mezuzah. (The Shaar Ephraim also implies this).



    However, the Chida ends off saying that maybe a jail would be exempt on premise that it's not made for permanent dwelling and only temporary like a boat dwelling. However, it seems that its inconclusive.



    Text of the Birkei Yosef:



    enter image description here






    share|improve this answer













    This is actually addressed by the Chida in his Birkei Yosef 286:3. He brings the Bais Hillel(not to be confused with Bais Hillel from the gemara) who holds that a jail is not a dwelling of honor,so would be patur from a mezuzah. He also brings a proof from the gemara Yoma 10b which seems to imply that a jail would not require a mezuzah.



    The Chida himself seems to disagree with the proof from the gemara and on the grounds of it being a dira l'kovod it would require a mezuzah. (The Shaar Ephraim also implies this).



    However, the Chida ends off saying that maybe a jail would be exempt on premise that it's not made for permanent dwelling and only temporary like a boat dwelling. However, it seems that its inconclusive.



    Text of the Birkei Yosef:



    enter image description here







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      don't jail cells typically include toilets?

      – Loewian
      7 hours ago











    • Might have a steel wall type mechetzia

      – sam
      7 hours ago














    • 1





      don't jail cells typically include toilets?

      – Loewian
      7 hours ago











    • Might have a steel wall type mechetzia

      – sam
      7 hours ago








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    don't jail cells typically include toilets?

    – Loewian
    7 hours ago





    don't jail cells typically include toilets?

    – Loewian
    7 hours ago













    Might have a steel wall type mechetzia

    – sam
    7 hours ago





    Might have a steel wall type mechetzia

    – sam
    7 hours ago













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    R Gersion Appel here answers your question




    A Jew who is serving a sentence does not require a mezuza on his
    prison cell, as it is not deemed a respectable residence and it is
    unlikely that he would consider it his permanent dwelling.




    This is based on Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 11:14




    A house that is not designated for permanent dwelling does not require
    a mezuzah




    This is also in line with the first view described by yeshiva.co.il here. See there for further analysis.



    A jail owned by a Jew would not impose a requirement of mezuza on the owner either, see Mishne Torah Mezuza 5:11, here from R Yirmiyohu Kaganoff or this MY question.



    Note it is possible the halacha will be different in Israel (see the sources at the beginning of this MY question). And of course, consult your rabbi
    before implementing anything you learn here.






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      R Gersion Appel here answers your question




      A Jew who is serving a sentence does not require a mezuza on his
      prison cell, as it is not deemed a respectable residence and it is
      unlikely that he would consider it his permanent dwelling.




      This is based on Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 11:14




      A house that is not designated for permanent dwelling does not require
      a mezuzah




      This is also in line with the first view described by yeshiva.co.il here. See there for further analysis.



      A jail owned by a Jew would not impose a requirement of mezuza on the owner either, see Mishne Torah Mezuza 5:11, here from R Yirmiyohu Kaganoff or this MY question.



      Note it is possible the halacha will be different in Israel (see the sources at the beginning of this MY question). And of course, consult your rabbi
      before implementing anything you learn here.






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        R Gersion Appel here answers your question




        A Jew who is serving a sentence does not require a mezuza on his
        prison cell, as it is not deemed a respectable residence and it is
        unlikely that he would consider it his permanent dwelling.




        This is based on Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 11:14




        A house that is not designated for permanent dwelling does not require
        a mezuzah




        This is also in line with the first view described by yeshiva.co.il here. See there for further analysis.



        A jail owned by a Jew would not impose a requirement of mezuza on the owner either, see Mishne Torah Mezuza 5:11, here from R Yirmiyohu Kaganoff or this MY question.



        Note it is possible the halacha will be different in Israel (see the sources at the beginning of this MY question). And of course, consult your rabbi
        before implementing anything you learn here.






        share|improve this answer















        R Gersion Appel here answers your question




        A Jew who is serving a sentence does not require a mezuza on his
        prison cell, as it is not deemed a respectable residence and it is
        unlikely that he would consider it his permanent dwelling.




        This is based on Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 11:14




        A house that is not designated for permanent dwelling does not require
        a mezuzah




        This is also in line with the first view described by yeshiva.co.il here. See there for further analysis.



        A jail owned by a Jew would not impose a requirement of mezuza on the owner either, see Mishne Torah Mezuza 5:11, here from R Yirmiyohu Kaganoff or this MY question.



        Note it is possible the halacha will be different in Israel (see the sources at the beginning of this MY question). And of course, consult your rabbi
        before implementing anything you learn here.







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            Leket Hakemach (YD, Mezuzah s.v. Kahal) explains Shaar Ephraim (83) that one who is in a Jewish jail [for several months] is required to affix a mezuzah. His reasoning is that Rambam (Mezuzah 6) did not enumerate a jail as one of ten things which do not require a mezuzah. Shaar Ephraim also brings proof from the Rabbi’s opinion in Yoma (10b) that even one living against their will is still considered a regular living place, and is required to affix a mezuzah.






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              don't jail cells typically include toilets?

              – Loewian
              7 hours ago











            • I guess it’s not a typical one. Don’t know, haven’t been.

              – Dr. Shmuel
              7 hours ago
















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            Leket Hakemach (YD, Mezuzah s.v. Kahal) explains Shaar Ephraim (83) that one who is in a Jewish jail [for several months] is required to affix a mezuzah. His reasoning is that Rambam (Mezuzah 6) did not enumerate a jail as one of ten things which do not require a mezuzah. Shaar Ephraim also brings proof from the Rabbi’s opinion in Yoma (10b) that even one living against their will is still considered a regular living place, and is required to affix a mezuzah.






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              don't jail cells typically include toilets?

              – Loewian
              7 hours ago











            • I guess it’s not a typical one. Don’t know, haven’t been.

              – Dr. Shmuel
              7 hours ago














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            Leket Hakemach (YD, Mezuzah s.v. Kahal) explains Shaar Ephraim (83) that one who is in a Jewish jail [for several months] is required to affix a mezuzah. His reasoning is that Rambam (Mezuzah 6) did not enumerate a jail as one of ten things which do not require a mezuzah. Shaar Ephraim also brings proof from the Rabbi’s opinion in Yoma (10b) that even one living against their will is still considered a regular living place, and is required to affix a mezuzah.






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            Leket Hakemach (YD, Mezuzah s.v. Kahal) explains Shaar Ephraim (83) that one who is in a Jewish jail [for several months] is required to affix a mezuzah. His reasoning is that Rambam (Mezuzah 6) did not enumerate a jail as one of ten things which do not require a mezuzah. Shaar Ephraim also brings proof from the Rabbi’s opinion in Yoma (10b) that even one living against their will is still considered a regular living place, and is required to affix a mezuzah.







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              don't jail cells typically include toilets?

              – Loewian
              7 hours ago











            • I guess it’s not a typical one. Don’t know, haven’t been.

              – Dr. Shmuel
              7 hours ago














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              don't jail cells typically include toilets?

              – Loewian
              7 hours ago











            • I guess it’s not a typical one. Don’t know, haven’t been.

              – Dr. Shmuel
              7 hours ago








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            don't jail cells typically include toilets?

            – Loewian
            7 hours ago





            don't jail cells typically include toilets?

            – Loewian
            7 hours ago













            I guess it’s not a typical one. Don’t know, haven’t been.

            – Dr. Shmuel
            7 hours ago





            I guess it’s not a typical one. Don’t know, haven’t been.

            – Dr. Shmuel
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