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Let's say one of my players comes up with an ingenious idea. It's fun, it's creative and it makes sense for their character. I want to reward them and inspiration is the obvious choice. But then they try to execute the idea and, maybe due to a bad roll, it unfortunately fails. Do I still get to give them inspiration?
I thought this was obvious but I am not looking for an explanation of what inspiration is. I know that. I am asking what you would do if an inspiration-worthy idea goes pear shaped.
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Let's say one of my players comes up with an ingenious idea. It's fun, it's creative and it makes sense for their character. I want to reward them and inspiration is the obvious choice. But then they try to execute the idea and, maybe due to a bad roll, it unfortunately fails. Do I still get to give them inspiration?
I thought this was obvious but I am not looking for an explanation of what inspiration is. I know that. I am asking what you would do if an inspiration-worthy idea goes pear shaped.
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– JohnP
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I'm glad you found my answer useful and very pleased that you accepted it. But I wanted to mention that it's common practice on this stack to hold off on accepting an answer for ~24 hours in order to encourage more answers. Some users are less likely to answer questions that already have accepted answers, and we may miss out on some good insights.
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– Upper_Case
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Thank you, I'll keep that in mind!
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@JohnP While it is very similar subject-matter, this question is more specific, and addresses "good idea"/"failed implementation".
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– Black Spike
7 hours ago
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@BlackSpike from the linked answer: it's a mechanical reward for playing the way the Dungeon Master appreciates which I felt answered this question well. Doesn't matter the outcome, the player did something the dm appreciated so yeah, given them a point.
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Let's say one of my players comes up with an ingenious idea. It's fun, it's creative and it makes sense for their character. I want to reward them and inspiration is the obvious choice. But then they try to execute the idea and, maybe due to a bad roll, it unfortunately fails. Do I still get to give them inspiration?
I thought this was obvious but I am not looking for an explanation of what inspiration is. I know that. I am asking what you would do if an inspiration-worthy idea goes pear shaped.
dnd-5e inspiration
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Let's say one of my players comes up with an ingenious idea. It's fun, it's creative and it makes sense for their character. I want to reward them and inspiration is the obvious choice. But then they try to execute the idea and, maybe due to a bad roll, it unfortunately fails. Do I still get to give them inspiration?
I thought this was obvious but I am not looking for an explanation of what inspiration is. I know that. I am asking what you would do if an inspiration-worthy idea goes pear shaped.
dnd-5e inspiration
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– JohnP
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I'm glad you found my answer useful and very pleased that you accepted it. But I wanted to mention that it's common practice on this stack to hold off on accepting an answer for ~24 hours in order to encourage more answers. Some users are less likely to answer questions that already have accepted answers, and we may miss out on some good insights.
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– Upper_Case
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Thank you, I'll keep that in mind!
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@JohnP While it is very similar subject-matter, this question is more specific, and addresses "good idea"/"failed implementation".
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– Black Spike
7 hours ago
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@BlackSpike from the linked answer: it's a mechanical reward for playing the way the Dungeon Master appreciates which I felt answered this question well. Doesn't matter the outcome, the player did something the dm appreciated so yeah, given them a point.
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I'm glad you found my answer useful and very pleased that you accepted it. But I wanted to mention that it's common practice on this stack to hold off on accepting an answer for ~24 hours in order to encourage more answers. Some users are less likely to answer questions that already have accepted answers, and we may miss out on some good insights.
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Thank you, I'll keep that in mind!
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7 hours ago
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@JohnP While it is very similar subject-matter, this question is more specific, and addresses "good idea"/"failed implementation".
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– Black Spike
7 hours ago
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@BlackSpike from the linked answer: it's a mechanical reward for playing the way the Dungeon Master appreciates which I felt answered this question well. Doesn't matter the outcome, the player did something the dm appreciated so yeah, given them a point.
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– JohnP
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– JohnP
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I'm glad you found my answer useful and very pleased that you accepted it. But I wanted to mention that it's common practice on this stack to hold off on accepting an answer for ~24 hours in order to encourage more answers. Some users are less likely to answer questions that already have accepted answers, and we may miss out on some good insights.
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– Upper_Case
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I'm glad you found my answer useful and very pleased that you accepted it. But I wanted to mention that it's common practice on this stack to hold off on accepting an answer for ~24 hours in order to encourage more answers. Some users are less likely to answer questions that already have accepted answers, and we may miss out on some good insights.
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– Upper_Case
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Thank you, I'll keep that in mind!
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– pttg
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Thank you, I'll keep that in mind!
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– pttg
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@JohnP While it is very similar subject-matter, this question is more specific, and addresses "good idea"/"failed implementation".
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– Black Spike
7 hours ago
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@JohnP While it is very similar subject-matter, this question is more specific, and addresses "good idea"/"failed implementation".
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– Black Spike
7 hours ago
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@BlackSpike from the linked answer: it's a mechanical reward for playing the way the Dungeon Master appreciates which I felt answered this question well. Doesn't matter the outcome, the player did something the dm appreciated so yeah, given them a point.
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– JohnP
5 hours ago
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@BlackSpike from the linked answer: it's a mechanical reward for playing the way the Dungeon Master appreciates which I felt answered this question well. Doesn't matter the outcome, the player did something the dm appreciated so yeah, given them a point.
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If you're the DM, you can give inspiration for anything you want. But dice roll results are probably not what you want to encourage here.
Obviously the DM is in charge of everything at the table, up to and including overruling any published rule or detail from any official or unofficial source. But inspiration is even more explicitly under your control.
Ultimately, inspiration is a reward for playing in a way that the DM likes. If one of your players comes up with an idea that is creative and true to their character, as described in your question, I would award inspiration on the spot. For me, what earns the inspiration is the player thinking like their character and engaging with the game enough to come up with a clever idea.
Execution of the idea is irrelevant to the gameplay features I care about, and dependent on dice. Inspiration is not meant to be a randomly awarded prize. I would want to reward the player's approach to the game and creativity, and not the outcome of an arbitrary roll.
As novel example, I play tabletop games with a lot of people that like to min-max stats and experiment with optimized builds. But that's at the metagame level, and has nothing to do with the in-game behaviors that I particularly appreciate.
So my players won't get inspiration for taking an off-the-shelf build and playing it with a mathematical eye. However, if one of these players makes a suboptimal decision in-game (or even an outright error, given meta-knowledge) because it is true to their character or deepens the game in some way, I very well might award inspiration even though that choice makes "success" less likely.
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From the DMG p240:
... inspiration should make the
game more enjoyable for everyone. Award inspiration
when players take actions that make the game more
exciting, amusing, or memorable ...
As the DM, you are free to award Inspiration for whatever you see fit.
There is no guidance for handing out inspiration for "ingenious ideas", but I feel it would be a proper use of this mechanic.
It follows the guidance that Inspiration should:
encourage roleplaying and risk-taking.
So the plan fails? That's what "risk-taking" means! It's not a risk if it always succeeds!
Give them their Inspiration Point!
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If you're the DM, you can give inspiration for anything you want. But dice roll results are probably not what you want to encourage here.
Obviously the DM is in charge of everything at the table, up to and including overruling any published rule or detail from any official or unofficial source. But inspiration is even more explicitly under your control.
Ultimately, inspiration is a reward for playing in a way that the DM likes. If one of your players comes up with an idea that is creative and true to their character, as described in your question, I would award inspiration on the spot. For me, what earns the inspiration is the player thinking like their character and engaging with the game enough to come up with a clever idea.
Execution of the idea is irrelevant to the gameplay features I care about, and dependent on dice. Inspiration is not meant to be a randomly awarded prize. I would want to reward the player's approach to the game and creativity, and not the outcome of an arbitrary roll.
As novel example, I play tabletop games with a lot of people that like to min-max stats and experiment with optimized builds. But that's at the metagame level, and has nothing to do with the in-game behaviors that I particularly appreciate.
So my players won't get inspiration for taking an off-the-shelf build and playing it with a mathematical eye. However, if one of these players makes a suboptimal decision in-game (or even an outright error, given meta-knowledge) because it is true to their character or deepens the game in some way, I very well might award inspiration even though that choice makes "success" less likely.
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If you're the DM, you can give inspiration for anything you want. But dice roll results are probably not what you want to encourage here.
Obviously the DM is in charge of everything at the table, up to and including overruling any published rule or detail from any official or unofficial source. But inspiration is even more explicitly under your control.
Ultimately, inspiration is a reward for playing in a way that the DM likes. If one of your players comes up with an idea that is creative and true to their character, as described in your question, I would award inspiration on the spot. For me, what earns the inspiration is the player thinking like their character and engaging with the game enough to come up with a clever idea.
Execution of the idea is irrelevant to the gameplay features I care about, and dependent on dice. Inspiration is not meant to be a randomly awarded prize. I would want to reward the player's approach to the game and creativity, and not the outcome of an arbitrary roll.
As novel example, I play tabletop games with a lot of people that like to min-max stats and experiment with optimized builds. But that's at the metagame level, and has nothing to do with the in-game behaviors that I particularly appreciate.
So my players won't get inspiration for taking an off-the-shelf build and playing it with a mathematical eye. However, if one of these players makes a suboptimal decision in-game (or even an outright error, given meta-knowledge) because it is true to their character or deepens the game in some way, I very well might award inspiration even though that choice makes "success" less likely.
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If you're the DM, you can give inspiration for anything you want. But dice roll results are probably not what you want to encourage here.
Obviously the DM is in charge of everything at the table, up to and including overruling any published rule or detail from any official or unofficial source. But inspiration is even more explicitly under your control.
Ultimately, inspiration is a reward for playing in a way that the DM likes. If one of your players comes up with an idea that is creative and true to their character, as described in your question, I would award inspiration on the spot. For me, what earns the inspiration is the player thinking like their character and engaging with the game enough to come up with a clever idea.
Execution of the idea is irrelevant to the gameplay features I care about, and dependent on dice. Inspiration is not meant to be a randomly awarded prize. I would want to reward the player's approach to the game and creativity, and not the outcome of an arbitrary roll.
As novel example, I play tabletop games with a lot of people that like to min-max stats and experiment with optimized builds. But that's at the metagame level, and has nothing to do with the in-game behaviors that I particularly appreciate.
So my players won't get inspiration for taking an off-the-shelf build and playing it with a mathematical eye. However, if one of these players makes a suboptimal decision in-game (or even an outright error, given meta-knowledge) because it is true to their character or deepens the game in some way, I very well might award inspiration even though that choice makes "success" less likely.
answered 8 hours ago
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If you're the DM, you can give inspiration for anything you want. But dice roll results are probably not what you want to encourage here.
Obviously the DM is in charge of everything at the table, up to and including overruling any published rule or detail from any official or unofficial source. But inspiration is even more explicitly under your control.
Ultimately, inspiration is a reward for playing in a way that the DM likes. If one of your players comes up with an idea that is creative and true to their character, as described in your question, I would award inspiration on the spot. For me, what earns the inspiration is the player thinking like their character and engaging with the game enough to come up with a clever idea.
Execution of the idea is irrelevant to the gameplay features I care about, and dependent on dice. Inspiration is not meant to be a randomly awarded prize. I would want to reward the player's approach to the game and creativity, and not the outcome of an arbitrary roll.
As novel example, I play tabletop games with a lot of people that like to min-max stats and experiment with optimized builds. But that's at the metagame level, and has nothing to do with the in-game behaviors that I particularly appreciate.
So my players won't get inspiration for taking an off-the-shelf build and playing it with a mathematical eye. However, if one of these players makes a suboptimal decision in-game (or even an outright error, given meta-knowledge) because it is true to their character or deepens the game in some way, I very well might award inspiration even though that choice makes "success" less likely.
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From the DMG p240:
... inspiration should make the
game more enjoyable for everyone. Award inspiration
when players take actions that make the game more
exciting, amusing, or memorable ...
As the DM, you are free to award Inspiration for whatever you see fit.
There is no guidance for handing out inspiration for "ingenious ideas", but I feel it would be a proper use of this mechanic.
It follows the guidance that Inspiration should:
encourage roleplaying and risk-taking.
So the plan fails? That's what "risk-taking" means! It's not a risk if it always succeeds!
Give them their Inspiration Point!
answered 7 hours ago
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From the DMG p240:
... inspiration should make the
game more enjoyable for everyone. Award inspiration
when players take actions that make the game more
exciting, amusing, or memorable ...
As the DM, you are free to award Inspiration for whatever you see fit.
There is no guidance for handing out inspiration for "ingenious ideas", but I feel it would be a proper use of this mechanic.
It follows the guidance that Inspiration should:
encourage roleplaying and risk-taking.
So the plan fails? That's what "risk-taking" means! It's not a risk if it always succeeds!
Give them their Inspiration Point!
answered 7 hours ago
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From the DMG p240:
... inspiration should make the
game more enjoyable for everyone. Award inspiration
when players take actions that make the game more
exciting, amusing, or memorable ...
As the DM, you are free to award Inspiration for whatever you see fit.
There is no guidance for handing out inspiration for "ingenious ideas", but I feel it would be a proper use of this mechanic.
It follows the guidance that Inspiration should:
encourage roleplaying and risk-taking.
So the plan fails? That's what "risk-taking" means! It's not a risk if it always succeeds!
Give them their Inspiration Point!
answered 7 hours ago
Black SpikeBlack Spike
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From the DMG p240:
... inspiration should make the
game more enjoyable for everyone. Award inspiration
when players take actions that make the game more
exciting, amusing, or memorable ...
As the DM, you are free to award Inspiration for whatever you see fit.
There is no guidance for handing out inspiration for "ingenious ideas", but I feel it would be a proper use of this mechanic.
It follows the guidance that Inspiration should:
encourage roleplaying and risk-taking.
So the plan fails? That's what "risk-taking" means! It's not a risk if it always succeeds!
Give them their Inspiration Point!
answered 7 hours ago
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I'm glad you found my answer useful and very pleased that you accepted it. But I wanted to mention that it's common practice on this stack to hold off on accepting an answer for ~24 hours in order to encourage more answers. Some users are less likely to answer questions that already have accepted answers, and we may miss out on some good insights.
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Thank you, I'll keep that in mind!
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@JohnP While it is very similar subject-matter, this question is more specific, and addresses "good idea"/"failed implementation".
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7 hours ago
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@BlackSpike from the linked answer: it's a mechanical reward for playing the way the Dungeon Master appreciates which I felt answered this question well. Doesn't matter the outcome, the player did something the dm appreciated so yeah, given them a point.
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