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Once a week we have team meetings that are scheduled during lunch which the company buys (irrelevant to me since I bring my own lunch anyway). I have no problem with the timing, but I find it insanely frustrating when people talk and eat at the same time. Obviously people try not to talk and chew, but unconsciously they do.
We're a small team and we usually have lunch together everyday. In normal days I can space out, don't really have to focus on what people are saying, or if it gets really bad I can just step out and finish lunch later. During company meetings I have no such options.
My manager knows I get irritated when people chew loudly, but I've somewhat downplayed it because I didn't want to seem rude. The meetings however are starting to get to me.
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Once a week we have team meetings that are scheduled during lunch which the company buys (irrelevant to me since I bring my own lunch anyway). I have no problem with the timing, but I find it insanely frustrating when people talk and eat at the same time. Obviously people try not to talk and chew, but unconsciously they do.
We're a small team and we usually have lunch together everyday. In normal days I can space out, don't really have to focus on what people are saying, or if it gets really bad I can just step out and finish lunch later. During company meetings I have no such options.
My manager knows I get irritated when people chew loudly, but I've somewhat downplayed it because I didn't want to seem rude. The meetings however are starting to get to me.
work-environment united-states startup meetings lunch
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Ask, don't tell.
– Joe Strazzere
9 hours ago
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A team meeting should be held on company time, so not your lunch break...
– Solar Mike
8 hours ago
4
@SolarMike and if he goes in and tells the boss that hes not going to have aj ob
– Tina_Sea
8 hours ago
8
@SolarMike - in many places, startup employees would be salaried without a firm distinction between company and break time and without time being precisely tracked at all. If the asker were in a jurisdiction where salaried employees are legally entitled to an inviolate lunch break, or working in an hourly capacity, they would likely have mentioned so. Similarly, if the issue where that they needed their lunch break to run an errand, or even had a personal habit of going outside for sunshine (or if it were their choice, a cigarette). The issue raised in this question is none of those things.
– Chris Stratton
8 hours ago
So, probably depends in the contract...
– Solar Mike
8 hours ago
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Once a week we have team meetings that are scheduled during lunch which the company buys (irrelevant to me since I bring my own lunch anyway). I have no problem with the timing, but I find it insanely frustrating when people talk and eat at the same time. Obviously people try not to talk and chew, but unconsciously they do.
We're a small team and we usually have lunch together everyday. In normal days I can space out, don't really have to focus on what people are saying, or if it gets really bad I can just step out and finish lunch later. During company meetings I have no such options.
My manager knows I get irritated when people chew loudly, but I've somewhat downplayed it because I didn't want to seem rude. The meetings however are starting to get to me.
work-environment united-states startup meetings lunch
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Once a week we have team meetings that are scheduled during lunch which the company buys (irrelevant to me since I bring my own lunch anyway). I have no problem with the timing, but I find it insanely frustrating when people talk and eat at the same time. Obviously people try not to talk and chew, but unconsciously they do.
We're a small team and we usually have lunch together everyday. In normal days I can space out, don't really have to focus on what people are saying, or if it gets really bad I can just step out and finish lunch later. During company meetings I have no such options.
My manager knows I get irritated when people chew loudly, but I've somewhat downplayed it because I didn't want to seem rude. The meetings however are starting to get to me.
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9
Ask, don't tell.
– Joe Strazzere
9 hours ago
1
A team meeting should be held on company time, so not your lunch break...
– Solar Mike
8 hours ago
4
@SolarMike and if he goes in and tells the boss that hes not going to have aj ob
– Tina_Sea
8 hours ago
8
@SolarMike - in many places, startup employees would be salaried without a firm distinction between company and break time and without time being precisely tracked at all. If the asker were in a jurisdiction where salaried employees are legally entitled to an inviolate lunch break, or working in an hourly capacity, they would likely have mentioned so. Similarly, if the issue where that they needed their lunch break to run an errand, or even had a personal habit of going outside for sunshine (or if it were their choice, a cigarette). The issue raised in this question is none of those things.
– Chris Stratton
8 hours ago
So, probably depends in the contract...
– Solar Mike
8 hours ago
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9
Ask, don't tell.
– Joe Strazzere
9 hours ago
1
A team meeting should be held on company time, so not your lunch break...
– Solar Mike
8 hours ago
4
@SolarMike and if he goes in and tells the boss that hes not going to have aj ob
– Tina_Sea
8 hours ago
8
@SolarMike - in many places, startup employees would be salaried without a firm distinction between company and break time and without time being precisely tracked at all. If the asker were in a jurisdiction where salaried employees are legally entitled to an inviolate lunch break, or working in an hourly capacity, they would likely have mentioned so. Similarly, if the issue where that they needed their lunch break to run an errand, or even had a personal habit of going outside for sunshine (or if it were their choice, a cigarette). The issue raised in this question is none of those things.
– Chris Stratton
8 hours ago
So, probably depends in the contract...
– Solar Mike
8 hours ago
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9
Ask, don't tell.
– Joe Strazzere
9 hours ago
Ask, don't tell.
– Joe Strazzere
9 hours ago
1
1
A team meeting should be held on company time, so not your lunch break...
– Solar Mike
8 hours ago
A team meeting should be held on company time, so not your lunch break...
– Solar Mike
8 hours ago
4
4
@SolarMike and if he goes in and tells the boss that hes not going to have aj ob
– Tina_Sea
8 hours ago
@SolarMike and if he goes in and tells the boss that hes not going to have aj ob
– Tina_Sea
8 hours ago
8
8
@SolarMike - in many places, startup employees would be salaried without a firm distinction between company and break time and without time being precisely tracked at all. If the asker were in a jurisdiction where salaried employees are legally entitled to an inviolate lunch break, or working in an hourly capacity, they would likely have mentioned so. Similarly, if the issue where that they needed their lunch break to run an errand, or even had a personal habit of going outside for sunshine (or if it were their choice, a cigarette). The issue raised in this question is none of those things.
– Chris Stratton
8 hours ago
@SolarMike - in many places, startup employees would be salaried without a firm distinction between company and break time and without time being precisely tracked at all. If the asker were in a jurisdiction where salaried employees are legally entitled to an inviolate lunch break, or working in an hourly capacity, they would likely have mentioned so. Similarly, if the issue where that they needed their lunch break to run an errand, or even had a personal habit of going outside for sunshine (or if it were their choice, a cigarette). The issue raised in this question is none of those things.
– Chris Stratton
8 hours ago
So, probably depends in the contract...
– Solar Mike
8 hours ago
So, probably depends in the contract...
– Solar Mike
8 hours ago
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While probably not what you want to hear, when one has a unique aversive objection to something that is a widespread social norm within an industry and cannot realistically be argued to be harmful, the best solution may be trying to mitigate the sensitivity, rather than to change other's behavior.
Of course what is considered a norm and what is offensive is contextual to a society. It would, for example, be quite possible to have a society where office workers did not typically use underarm deodorant, and the resulting natural odors were considered, well, natural. Someone in that context objecting to the odor of their co-workers would be counseled that the issue is with their sensitivity, not others behavior. In contrast, in most current office settings, it would be the person not wearing deodorant who would receive some behind closed doors counseling (one could then ask about the case of objection to a co-worker's use of excessive artificial scent... but that is another topic)
You are in a society (and especially in a startup, a subset of it) where eating during informal small group meetings is not in general viewed as improper. In contrast, many startups foster a type of mindset which would view this type of thing as drawing a team together.
That's not to say that all activities which draw a team together are necessarily unobjectionable - if you didn't want to go out drinking as an official company function (because of the alcohol) or playing lasertag (because of the simulated violence) or participate in a holiday party tied to a particular religion, those are kinds of situations where there's a general acknowledgement that what may be positive for some is not positive for all, and accomodation is more likely to be made - and in some cases or places, may be legally required.
Or to take a more extreme example, some teams might feel "drawn together" by the act of sharing off-color jokes. While that may be a long tradition in many industries and subsets of society, there's a growing recognition that it is improper, can be very unwelcoming and exclusionary, thus it is generally not permitted now.
But for the specific issue of talking while eating, it may be deeply objectionable to you, but you are going to have a hard time making an argument for harm, at least as the listener. Any accommodation offered is going to be purely at the discretion of others - hence varying by situation and likely to be often forgotten. If planning to continue in an industry segment where this is common, the only truly universal, lasting, and reliable solution is going to be working to overcome the aversion itself.
To be clear, "working to overcome the aversion" is not the same thing as pretending that the issue does not exist. The process of coping with averse feelings can be a complex one, and while it may be something that some can accomplish purely by exercise of will on their own, for others it may be a path best pursued with assistance. This will be different for each person.
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TL;DR Your colleagues' eating behaviour may be subjectively disgusting, but it's your problem not theirs. You can't escape the meetings, so stop whining and learn to live with it. (I don't agree, btw; this is just my summary of the answer)
– Justin
8 hours ago
1
To add to this, One could also simply...ask to manager if they could schedule meetings not at lunch and bring up a reasonable reason such as, ‘i want an actual break’ ...but if the company is buying lunch...and if this is anything like my job...when the boss buys lunch the lunch break all of a sudden doubles or triples in length...at this point well. The OP should just get used to it.
– morbo
8 hours ago
@Justin It's not merely the OP's problem if the colleagues' behavior is limiting the effectiveness of the meeting. If they're obscuring important information, there's no doubt they're out of line. (If they're only being distracting to a reasonable observer, it's less clear-cut but they're still out of line.)
– CynicallyNaive
6 hours ago
1
@CynicallyNaive - your claim that this behavior is "out of line" is a misunderstanding of the situation at the asker's company. Eating during the meeting is officially encouraged behavior. When management schedules a meeting during lunch and provides food at the same it, it is the specific intention that people will eat it. Otherwise they would sequence the activities, possibly having a brief meeting before taking covers off of the catering trays or otherwise inviting employees to begin partaking of the food.
– Chris Stratton
6 hours ago
Chris, I agree 100% that your sequencing would be better. I consider talking with food in one's mouth, especially if that denies important info, to be the offensive behavior. The company is catering the meeting, so eating while others talk isn't out of line, but surely the company can't be advocating eating and talking simultaneously.
– CynicallyNaive
5 hours ago
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Best solution: Talk to your boss
You should politely reiterate to your boss how much this bothers you. "Seeming rude" is often in our own perception.
Hey, Boss, got a second? I love that we have a weekly meeting to hear from each other, and I'm worried I'm not able to engage fully because I can't hear what people are saying when they chew and talk. Not just that, but I'm really sensitive to noise. I know we talked about this in passing, and since then I've come to realize it's really hindering me from participating. Is there anything we can do about it?
You seem to have ruled that out, though. So then, I suggest both the following--but only if done in chronological order.
Next-best ideas
Even if your boss isn't receptive to your suggestions, try talking to a couple of your colleagues--probably the ones you're on best terms with--to get their assessment of the situation. If they agree with you, you have allies to change the culture of this meeting. If they don't, at least they know it bothers you. Assuming good faith, they'll still make a bit more effort not to do it when you're in the conversation.
If the talking and chewing is impeding your ability to understand important information from your colleagues, you should not feel shy about asking them to repeat themselves. Don't do this to the point of being obnoxious! The tone you use to do it matters a lot. A gentle, "I'm sorry, I didn't catch that," once or twice per meeting suffices.
The second point may seem like a passive-aggressive solution.
Passive-aggressiveness isn't very good as a default mode; typically
it impedes important communication and leads to a guessing game. In
this case you've already talked to your boss and to a couple of
colleagues, so you're not using this as your Plan A. Moreover, you
do have a right to ask about info germane to your job. Encouraging them to change their behavior is a nice spillover benefit, but you need to hear important info even if they never change their behavior.
Again, don't overdo this (e.g. 3 or more times in an hour meeting), or you really will become a villain.
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Just say sorry and then repeat the information you understood 100% and then wait for them to repeat the rest. Repeat until you get it all. No big discussion about why you didn't undestand it, maybe a jokingly "thanks, much easier to understand when you don't chew a pizza at the same time". If you know some funny way how you teach children not to talk with their mouth full, maybe add this from time to time. Or you can say it is important to train this now so they won't do it in a lunch meeting with a customer. Try to be, or at least appear, helpful and not a drama queen and nobody will have a problem with it and best case the situation improves over time.
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While probably not what you want to hear, when one has a unique aversive objection to something that is a widespread social norm within an industry and cannot realistically be argued to be harmful, the best solution may be trying to mitigate the sensitivity, rather than to change other's behavior.
Of course what is considered a norm and what is offensive is contextual to a society. It would, for example, be quite possible to have a society where office workers did not typically use underarm deodorant, and the resulting natural odors were considered, well, natural. Someone in that context objecting to the odor of their co-workers would be counseled that the issue is with their sensitivity, not others behavior. In contrast, in most current office settings, it would be the person not wearing deodorant who would receive some behind closed doors counseling (one could then ask about the case of objection to a co-worker's use of excessive artificial scent... but that is another topic)
You are in a society (and especially in a startup, a subset of it) where eating during informal small group meetings is not in general viewed as improper. In contrast, many startups foster a type of mindset which would view this type of thing as drawing a team together.
That's not to say that all activities which draw a team together are necessarily unobjectionable - if you didn't want to go out drinking as an official company function (because of the alcohol) or playing lasertag (because of the simulated violence) or participate in a holiday party tied to a particular religion, those are kinds of situations where there's a general acknowledgement that what may be positive for some is not positive for all, and accomodation is more likely to be made - and in some cases or places, may be legally required.
Or to take a more extreme example, some teams might feel "drawn together" by the act of sharing off-color jokes. While that may be a long tradition in many industries and subsets of society, there's a growing recognition that it is improper, can be very unwelcoming and exclusionary, thus it is generally not permitted now.
But for the specific issue of talking while eating, it may be deeply objectionable to you, but you are going to have a hard time making an argument for harm, at least as the listener. Any accommodation offered is going to be purely at the discretion of others - hence varying by situation and likely to be often forgotten. If planning to continue in an industry segment where this is common, the only truly universal, lasting, and reliable solution is going to be working to overcome the aversion itself.
To be clear, "working to overcome the aversion" is not the same thing as pretending that the issue does not exist. The process of coping with averse feelings can be a complex one, and while it may be something that some can accomplish purely by exercise of will on their own, for others it may be a path best pursued with assistance. This will be different for each person.
9
TL;DR Your colleagues' eating behaviour may be subjectively disgusting, but it's your problem not theirs. You can't escape the meetings, so stop whining and learn to live with it. (I don't agree, btw; this is just my summary of the answer)
– Justin
8 hours ago
1
To add to this, One could also simply...ask to manager if they could schedule meetings not at lunch and bring up a reasonable reason such as, ‘i want an actual break’ ...but if the company is buying lunch...and if this is anything like my job...when the boss buys lunch the lunch break all of a sudden doubles or triples in length...at this point well. The OP should just get used to it.
– morbo
8 hours ago
@Justin It's not merely the OP's problem if the colleagues' behavior is limiting the effectiveness of the meeting. If they're obscuring important information, there's no doubt they're out of line. (If they're only being distracting to a reasonable observer, it's less clear-cut but they're still out of line.)
– CynicallyNaive
6 hours ago
1
@CynicallyNaive - your claim that this behavior is "out of line" is a misunderstanding of the situation at the asker's company. Eating during the meeting is officially encouraged behavior. When management schedules a meeting during lunch and provides food at the same it, it is the specific intention that people will eat it. Otherwise they would sequence the activities, possibly having a brief meeting before taking covers off of the catering trays or otherwise inviting employees to begin partaking of the food.
– Chris Stratton
6 hours ago
Chris, I agree 100% that your sequencing would be better. I consider talking with food in one's mouth, especially if that denies important info, to be the offensive behavior. The company is catering the meeting, so eating while others talk isn't out of line, but surely the company can't be advocating eating and talking simultaneously.
– CynicallyNaive
5 hours ago
add a comment
|
While probably not what you want to hear, when one has a unique aversive objection to something that is a widespread social norm within an industry and cannot realistically be argued to be harmful, the best solution may be trying to mitigate the sensitivity, rather than to change other's behavior.
Of course what is considered a norm and what is offensive is contextual to a society. It would, for example, be quite possible to have a society where office workers did not typically use underarm deodorant, and the resulting natural odors were considered, well, natural. Someone in that context objecting to the odor of their co-workers would be counseled that the issue is with their sensitivity, not others behavior. In contrast, in most current office settings, it would be the person not wearing deodorant who would receive some behind closed doors counseling (one could then ask about the case of objection to a co-worker's use of excessive artificial scent... but that is another topic)
You are in a society (and especially in a startup, a subset of it) where eating during informal small group meetings is not in general viewed as improper. In contrast, many startups foster a type of mindset which would view this type of thing as drawing a team together.
That's not to say that all activities which draw a team together are necessarily unobjectionable - if you didn't want to go out drinking as an official company function (because of the alcohol) or playing lasertag (because of the simulated violence) or participate in a holiday party tied to a particular religion, those are kinds of situations where there's a general acknowledgement that what may be positive for some is not positive for all, and accomodation is more likely to be made - and in some cases or places, may be legally required.
Or to take a more extreme example, some teams might feel "drawn together" by the act of sharing off-color jokes. While that may be a long tradition in many industries and subsets of society, there's a growing recognition that it is improper, can be very unwelcoming and exclusionary, thus it is generally not permitted now.
But for the specific issue of talking while eating, it may be deeply objectionable to you, but you are going to have a hard time making an argument for harm, at least as the listener. Any accommodation offered is going to be purely at the discretion of others - hence varying by situation and likely to be often forgotten. If planning to continue in an industry segment where this is common, the only truly universal, lasting, and reliable solution is going to be working to overcome the aversion itself.
To be clear, "working to overcome the aversion" is not the same thing as pretending that the issue does not exist. The process of coping with averse feelings can be a complex one, and while it may be something that some can accomplish purely by exercise of will on their own, for others it may be a path best pursued with assistance. This will be different for each person.
9
TL;DR Your colleagues' eating behaviour may be subjectively disgusting, but it's your problem not theirs. You can't escape the meetings, so stop whining and learn to live with it. (I don't agree, btw; this is just my summary of the answer)
– Justin
8 hours ago
1
To add to this, One could also simply...ask to manager if they could schedule meetings not at lunch and bring up a reasonable reason such as, ‘i want an actual break’ ...but if the company is buying lunch...and if this is anything like my job...when the boss buys lunch the lunch break all of a sudden doubles or triples in length...at this point well. The OP should just get used to it.
– morbo
8 hours ago
@Justin It's not merely the OP's problem if the colleagues' behavior is limiting the effectiveness of the meeting. If they're obscuring important information, there's no doubt they're out of line. (If they're only being distracting to a reasonable observer, it's less clear-cut but they're still out of line.)
– CynicallyNaive
6 hours ago
1
@CynicallyNaive - your claim that this behavior is "out of line" is a misunderstanding of the situation at the asker's company. Eating during the meeting is officially encouraged behavior. When management schedules a meeting during lunch and provides food at the same it, it is the specific intention that people will eat it. Otherwise they would sequence the activities, possibly having a brief meeting before taking covers off of the catering trays or otherwise inviting employees to begin partaking of the food.
– Chris Stratton
6 hours ago
Chris, I agree 100% that your sequencing would be better. I consider talking with food in one's mouth, especially if that denies important info, to be the offensive behavior. The company is catering the meeting, so eating while others talk isn't out of line, but surely the company can't be advocating eating and talking simultaneously.
– CynicallyNaive
5 hours ago
add a comment
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While probably not what you want to hear, when one has a unique aversive objection to something that is a widespread social norm within an industry and cannot realistically be argued to be harmful, the best solution may be trying to mitigate the sensitivity, rather than to change other's behavior.
Of course what is considered a norm and what is offensive is contextual to a society. It would, for example, be quite possible to have a society where office workers did not typically use underarm deodorant, and the resulting natural odors were considered, well, natural. Someone in that context objecting to the odor of their co-workers would be counseled that the issue is with their sensitivity, not others behavior. In contrast, in most current office settings, it would be the person not wearing deodorant who would receive some behind closed doors counseling (one could then ask about the case of objection to a co-worker's use of excessive artificial scent... but that is another topic)
You are in a society (and especially in a startup, a subset of it) where eating during informal small group meetings is not in general viewed as improper. In contrast, many startups foster a type of mindset which would view this type of thing as drawing a team together.
That's not to say that all activities which draw a team together are necessarily unobjectionable - if you didn't want to go out drinking as an official company function (because of the alcohol) or playing lasertag (because of the simulated violence) or participate in a holiday party tied to a particular religion, those are kinds of situations where there's a general acknowledgement that what may be positive for some is not positive for all, and accomodation is more likely to be made - and in some cases or places, may be legally required.
Or to take a more extreme example, some teams might feel "drawn together" by the act of sharing off-color jokes. While that may be a long tradition in many industries and subsets of society, there's a growing recognition that it is improper, can be very unwelcoming and exclusionary, thus it is generally not permitted now.
But for the specific issue of talking while eating, it may be deeply objectionable to you, but you are going to have a hard time making an argument for harm, at least as the listener. Any accommodation offered is going to be purely at the discretion of others - hence varying by situation and likely to be often forgotten. If planning to continue in an industry segment where this is common, the only truly universal, lasting, and reliable solution is going to be working to overcome the aversion itself.
To be clear, "working to overcome the aversion" is not the same thing as pretending that the issue does not exist. The process of coping with averse feelings can be a complex one, and while it may be something that some can accomplish purely by exercise of will on their own, for others it may be a path best pursued with assistance. This will be different for each person.
While probably not what you want to hear, when one has a unique aversive objection to something that is a widespread social norm within an industry and cannot realistically be argued to be harmful, the best solution may be trying to mitigate the sensitivity, rather than to change other's behavior.
Of course what is considered a norm and what is offensive is contextual to a society. It would, for example, be quite possible to have a society where office workers did not typically use underarm deodorant, and the resulting natural odors were considered, well, natural. Someone in that context objecting to the odor of their co-workers would be counseled that the issue is with their sensitivity, not others behavior. In contrast, in most current office settings, it would be the person not wearing deodorant who would receive some behind closed doors counseling (one could then ask about the case of objection to a co-worker's use of excessive artificial scent... but that is another topic)
You are in a society (and especially in a startup, a subset of it) where eating during informal small group meetings is not in general viewed as improper. In contrast, many startups foster a type of mindset which would view this type of thing as drawing a team together.
That's not to say that all activities which draw a team together are necessarily unobjectionable - if you didn't want to go out drinking as an official company function (because of the alcohol) or playing lasertag (because of the simulated violence) or participate in a holiday party tied to a particular religion, those are kinds of situations where there's a general acknowledgement that what may be positive for some is not positive for all, and accomodation is more likely to be made - and in some cases or places, may be legally required.
Or to take a more extreme example, some teams might feel "drawn together" by the act of sharing off-color jokes. While that may be a long tradition in many industries and subsets of society, there's a growing recognition that it is improper, can be very unwelcoming and exclusionary, thus it is generally not permitted now.
But for the specific issue of talking while eating, it may be deeply objectionable to you, but you are going to have a hard time making an argument for harm, at least as the listener. Any accommodation offered is going to be purely at the discretion of others - hence varying by situation and likely to be often forgotten. If planning to continue in an industry segment where this is common, the only truly universal, lasting, and reliable solution is going to be working to overcome the aversion itself.
To be clear, "working to overcome the aversion" is not the same thing as pretending that the issue does not exist. The process of coping with averse feelings can be a complex one, and while it may be something that some can accomplish purely by exercise of will on their own, for others it may be a path best pursued with assistance. This will be different for each person.
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TL;DR Your colleagues' eating behaviour may be subjectively disgusting, but it's your problem not theirs. You can't escape the meetings, so stop whining and learn to live with it. (I don't agree, btw; this is just my summary of the answer)
– Justin
8 hours ago
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To add to this, One could also simply...ask to manager if they could schedule meetings not at lunch and bring up a reasonable reason such as, ‘i want an actual break’ ...but if the company is buying lunch...and if this is anything like my job...when the boss buys lunch the lunch break all of a sudden doubles or triples in length...at this point well. The OP should just get used to it.
– morbo
8 hours ago
@Justin It's not merely the OP's problem if the colleagues' behavior is limiting the effectiveness of the meeting. If they're obscuring important information, there's no doubt they're out of line. (If they're only being distracting to a reasonable observer, it's less clear-cut but they're still out of line.)
– CynicallyNaive
6 hours ago
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@CynicallyNaive - your claim that this behavior is "out of line" is a misunderstanding of the situation at the asker's company. Eating during the meeting is officially encouraged behavior. When management schedules a meeting during lunch and provides food at the same it, it is the specific intention that people will eat it. Otherwise they would sequence the activities, possibly having a brief meeting before taking covers off of the catering trays or otherwise inviting employees to begin partaking of the food.
– Chris Stratton
6 hours ago
Chris, I agree 100% that your sequencing would be better. I consider talking with food in one's mouth, especially if that denies important info, to be the offensive behavior. The company is catering the meeting, so eating while others talk isn't out of line, but surely the company can't be advocating eating and talking simultaneously.
– CynicallyNaive
5 hours ago
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TL;DR Your colleagues' eating behaviour may be subjectively disgusting, but it's your problem not theirs. You can't escape the meetings, so stop whining and learn to live with it. (I don't agree, btw; this is just my summary of the answer)
– Justin
8 hours ago
1
To add to this, One could also simply...ask to manager if they could schedule meetings not at lunch and bring up a reasonable reason such as, ‘i want an actual break’ ...but if the company is buying lunch...and if this is anything like my job...when the boss buys lunch the lunch break all of a sudden doubles or triples in length...at this point well. The OP should just get used to it.
– morbo
8 hours ago
@Justin It's not merely the OP's problem if the colleagues' behavior is limiting the effectiveness of the meeting. If they're obscuring important information, there's no doubt they're out of line. (If they're only being distracting to a reasonable observer, it's less clear-cut but they're still out of line.)
– CynicallyNaive
6 hours ago
1
@CynicallyNaive - your claim that this behavior is "out of line" is a misunderstanding of the situation at the asker's company. Eating during the meeting is officially encouraged behavior. When management schedules a meeting during lunch and provides food at the same it, it is the specific intention that people will eat it. Otherwise they would sequence the activities, possibly having a brief meeting before taking covers off of the catering trays or otherwise inviting employees to begin partaking of the food.
– Chris Stratton
6 hours ago
Chris, I agree 100% that your sequencing would be better. I consider talking with food in one's mouth, especially if that denies important info, to be the offensive behavior. The company is catering the meeting, so eating while others talk isn't out of line, but surely the company can't be advocating eating and talking simultaneously.
– CynicallyNaive
5 hours ago
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TL;DR Your colleagues' eating behaviour may be subjectively disgusting, but it's your problem not theirs. You can't escape the meetings, so stop whining and learn to live with it. (I don't agree, btw; this is just my summary of the answer)
– Justin
8 hours ago
TL;DR Your colleagues' eating behaviour may be subjectively disgusting, but it's your problem not theirs. You can't escape the meetings, so stop whining and learn to live with it. (I don't agree, btw; this is just my summary of the answer)
– Justin
8 hours ago
1
1
To add to this, One could also simply...ask to manager if they could schedule meetings not at lunch and bring up a reasonable reason such as, ‘i want an actual break’ ...but if the company is buying lunch...and if this is anything like my job...when the boss buys lunch the lunch break all of a sudden doubles or triples in length...at this point well. The OP should just get used to it.
– morbo
8 hours ago
To add to this, One could also simply...ask to manager if they could schedule meetings not at lunch and bring up a reasonable reason such as, ‘i want an actual break’ ...but if the company is buying lunch...and if this is anything like my job...when the boss buys lunch the lunch break all of a sudden doubles or triples in length...at this point well. The OP should just get used to it.
– morbo
8 hours ago
@Justin It's not merely the OP's problem if the colleagues' behavior is limiting the effectiveness of the meeting. If they're obscuring important information, there's no doubt they're out of line. (If they're only being distracting to a reasonable observer, it's less clear-cut but they're still out of line.)
– CynicallyNaive
6 hours ago
@Justin It's not merely the OP's problem if the colleagues' behavior is limiting the effectiveness of the meeting. If they're obscuring important information, there's no doubt they're out of line. (If they're only being distracting to a reasonable observer, it's less clear-cut but they're still out of line.)
– CynicallyNaive
6 hours ago
1
1
@CynicallyNaive - your claim that this behavior is "out of line" is a misunderstanding of the situation at the asker's company. Eating during the meeting is officially encouraged behavior. When management schedules a meeting during lunch and provides food at the same it, it is the specific intention that people will eat it. Otherwise they would sequence the activities, possibly having a brief meeting before taking covers off of the catering trays or otherwise inviting employees to begin partaking of the food.
– Chris Stratton
6 hours ago
@CynicallyNaive - your claim that this behavior is "out of line" is a misunderstanding of the situation at the asker's company. Eating during the meeting is officially encouraged behavior. When management schedules a meeting during lunch and provides food at the same it, it is the specific intention that people will eat it. Otherwise they would sequence the activities, possibly having a brief meeting before taking covers off of the catering trays or otherwise inviting employees to begin partaking of the food.
– Chris Stratton
6 hours ago
Chris, I agree 100% that your sequencing would be better. I consider talking with food in one's mouth, especially if that denies important info, to be the offensive behavior. The company is catering the meeting, so eating while others talk isn't out of line, but surely the company can't be advocating eating and talking simultaneously.
– CynicallyNaive
5 hours ago
Chris, I agree 100% that your sequencing would be better. I consider talking with food in one's mouth, especially if that denies important info, to be the offensive behavior. The company is catering the meeting, so eating while others talk isn't out of line, but surely the company can't be advocating eating and talking simultaneously.
– CynicallyNaive
5 hours ago
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Best solution: Talk to your boss
You should politely reiterate to your boss how much this bothers you. "Seeming rude" is often in our own perception.
Hey, Boss, got a second? I love that we have a weekly meeting to hear from each other, and I'm worried I'm not able to engage fully because I can't hear what people are saying when they chew and talk. Not just that, but I'm really sensitive to noise. I know we talked about this in passing, and since then I've come to realize it's really hindering me from participating. Is there anything we can do about it?
You seem to have ruled that out, though. So then, I suggest both the following--but only if done in chronological order.
Next-best ideas
Even if your boss isn't receptive to your suggestions, try talking to a couple of your colleagues--probably the ones you're on best terms with--to get their assessment of the situation. If they agree with you, you have allies to change the culture of this meeting. If they don't, at least they know it bothers you. Assuming good faith, they'll still make a bit more effort not to do it when you're in the conversation.
If the talking and chewing is impeding your ability to understand important information from your colleagues, you should not feel shy about asking them to repeat themselves. Don't do this to the point of being obnoxious! The tone you use to do it matters a lot. A gentle, "I'm sorry, I didn't catch that," once or twice per meeting suffices.
The second point may seem like a passive-aggressive solution.
Passive-aggressiveness isn't very good as a default mode; typically
it impedes important communication and leads to a guessing game. In
this case you've already talked to your boss and to a couple of
colleagues, so you're not using this as your Plan A. Moreover, you
do have a right to ask about info germane to your job. Encouraging them to change their behavior is a nice spillover benefit, but you need to hear important info even if they never change their behavior.
Again, don't overdo this (e.g. 3 or more times in an hour meeting), or you really will become a villain.
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Best solution: Talk to your boss
You should politely reiterate to your boss how much this bothers you. "Seeming rude" is often in our own perception.
Hey, Boss, got a second? I love that we have a weekly meeting to hear from each other, and I'm worried I'm not able to engage fully because I can't hear what people are saying when they chew and talk. Not just that, but I'm really sensitive to noise. I know we talked about this in passing, and since then I've come to realize it's really hindering me from participating. Is there anything we can do about it?
You seem to have ruled that out, though. So then, I suggest both the following--but only if done in chronological order.
Next-best ideas
Even if your boss isn't receptive to your suggestions, try talking to a couple of your colleagues--probably the ones you're on best terms with--to get their assessment of the situation. If they agree with you, you have allies to change the culture of this meeting. If they don't, at least they know it bothers you. Assuming good faith, they'll still make a bit more effort not to do it when you're in the conversation.
If the talking and chewing is impeding your ability to understand important information from your colleagues, you should not feel shy about asking them to repeat themselves. Don't do this to the point of being obnoxious! The tone you use to do it matters a lot. A gentle, "I'm sorry, I didn't catch that," once or twice per meeting suffices.
The second point may seem like a passive-aggressive solution.
Passive-aggressiveness isn't very good as a default mode; typically
it impedes important communication and leads to a guessing game. In
this case you've already talked to your boss and to a couple of
colleagues, so you're not using this as your Plan A. Moreover, you
do have a right to ask about info germane to your job. Encouraging them to change their behavior is a nice spillover benefit, but you need to hear important info even if they never change their behavior.
Again, don't overdo this (e.g. 3 or more times in an hour meeting), or you really will become a villain.
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Best solution: Talk to your boss
You should politely reiterate to your boss how much this bothers you. "Seeming rude" is often in our own perception.
Hey, Boss, got a second? I love that we have a weekly meeting to hear from each other, and I'm worried I'm not able to engage fully because I can't hear what people are saying when they chew and talk. Not just that, but I'm really sensitive to noise. I know we talked about this in passing, and since then I've come to realize it's really hindering me from participating. Is there anything we can do about it?
You seem to have ruled that out, though. So then, I suggest both the following--but only if done in chronological order.
Next-best ideas
Even if your boss isn't receptive to your suggestions, try talking to a couple of your colleagues--probably the ones you're on best terms with--to get their assessment of the situation. If they agree with you, you have allies to change the culture of this meeting. If they don't, at least they know it bothers you. Assuming good faith, they'll still make a bit more effort not to do it when you're in the conversation.
If the talking and chewing is impeding your ability to understand important information from your colleagues, you should not feel shy about asking them to repeat themselves. Don't do this to the point of being obnoxious! The tone you use to do it matters a lot. A gentle, "I'm sorry, I didn't catch that," once or twice per meeting suffices.
The second point may seem like a passive-aggressive solution.
Passive-aggressiveness isn't very good as a default mode; typically
it impedes important communication and leads to a guessing game. In
this case you've already talked to your boss and to a couple of
colleagues, so you're not using this as your Plan A. Moreover, you
do have a right to ask about info germane to your job. Encouraging them to change their behavior is a nice spillover benefit, but you need to hear important info even if they never change their behavior.
Again, don't overdo this (e.g. 3 or more times in an hour meeting), or you really will become a villain.
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Best solution: Talk to your boss
You should politely reiterate to your boss how much this bothers you. "Seeming rude" is often in our own perception.
Hey, Boss, got a second? I love that we have a weekly meeting to hear from each other, and I'm worried I'm not able to engage fully because I can't hear what people are saying when they chew and talk. Not just that, but I'm really sensitive to noise. I know we talked about this in passing, and since then I've come to realize it's really hindering me from participating. Is there anything we can do about it?
You seem to have ruled that out, though. So then, I suggest both the following--but only if done in chronological order.
Next-best ideas
Even if your boss isn't receptive to your suggestions, try talking to a couple of your colleagues--probably the ones you're on best terms with--to get their assessment of the situation. If they agree with you, you have allies to change the culture of this meeting. If they don't, at least they know it bothers you. Assuming good faith, they'll still make a bit more effort not to do it when you're in the conversation.
If the talking and chewing is impeding your ability to understand important information from your colleagues, you should not feel shy about asking them to repeat themselves. Don't do this to the point of being obnoxious! The tone you use to do it matters a lot. A gentle, "I'm sorry, I didn't catch that," once or twice per meeting suffices.
The second point may seem like a passive-aggressive solution.
Passive-aggressiveness isn't very good as a default mode; typically
it impedes important communication and leads to a guessing game. In
this case you've already talked to your boss and to a couple of
colleagues, so you're not using this as your Plan A. Moreover, you
do have a right to ask about info germane to your job. Encouraging them to change their behavior is a nice spillover benefit, but you need to hear important info even if they never change their behavior.
Again, don't overdo this (e.g. 3 or more times in an hour meeting), or you really will become a villain.
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Just say sorry and then repeat the information you understood 100% and then wait for them to repeat the rest. Repeat until you get it all. No big discussion about why you didn't undestand it, maybe a jokingly "thanks, much easier to understand when you don't chew a pizza at the same time". If you know some funny way how you teach children not to talk with their mouth full, maybe add this from time to time. Or you can say it is important to train this now so they won't do it in a lunch meeting with a customer. Try to be, or at least appear, helpful and not a drama queen and nobody will have a problem with it and best case the situation improves over time.
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Just say sorry and then repeat the information you understood 100% and then wait for them to repeat the rest. Repeat until you get it all. No big discussion about why you didn't undestand it, maybe a jokingly "thanks, much easier to understand when you don't chew a pizza at the same time". If you know some funny way how you teach children not to talk with their mouth full, maybe add this from time to time. Or you can say it is important to train this now so they won't do it in a lunch meeting with a customer. Try to be, or at least appear, helpful and not a drama queen and nobody will have a problem with it and best case the situation improves over time.
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Just say sorry and then repeat the information you understood 100% and then wait for them to repeat the rest. Repeat until you get it all. No big discussion about why you didn't undestand it, maybe a jokingly "thanks, much easier to understand when you don't chew a pizza at the same time". If you know some funny way how you teach children not to talk with their mouth full, maybe add this from time to time. Or you can say it is important to train this now so they won't do it in a lunch meeting with a customer. Try to be, or at least appear, helpful and not a drama queen and nobody will have a problem with it and best case the situation improves over time.
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Just say sorry and then repeat the information you understood 100% and then wait for them to repeat the rest. Repeat until you get it all. No big discussion about why you didn't undestand it, maybe a jokingly "thanks, much easier to understand when you don't chew a pizza at the same time". If you know some funny way how you teach children not to talk with their mouth full, maybe add this from time to time. Or you can say it is important to train this now so they won't do it in a lunch meeting with a customer. Try to be, or at least appear, helpful and not a drama queen and nobody will have a problem with it and best case the situation improves over time.
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– Joe Strazzere
9 hours ago
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A team meeting should be held on company time, so not your lunch break...
– Solar Mike
8 hours ago
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@SolarMike and if he goes in and tells the boss that hes not going to have aj ob
– Tina_Sea
8 hours ago
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@SolarMike - in many places, startup employees would be salaried without a firm distinction between company and break time and without time being precisely tracked at all. If the asker were in a jurisdiction where salaried employees are legally entitled to an inviolate lunch break, or working in an hourly capacity, they would likely have mentioned so. Similarly, if the issue where that they needed their lunch break to run an errand, or even had a personal habit of going outside for sunshine (or if it were their choice, a cigarette). The issue raised in this question is none of those things.
– Chris Stratton
8 hours ago
So, probably depends in the contract...
– Solar Mike
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