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Decrypting Multi-Prime RSA with e, N, and factors of N given


What makes RSA secure by using prime numbers?Knowing N and a relationship between the 2 prime numbers(p and q) find p and q generated with RSACan multi-prime RSA be used to create an abuse-resistant lawful interception mechanism?What's wrong with RSA and OpenSSL?Is it possible to check if a number is the product of two primes without factorizing it?






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I was wondering if there was any way to compute the private key $d$ when knowing only $e$ and $N$, and being able to factor $N$ as 4 prime numbers $p, q, r$ and $s$. I've been searching for days and I can't find any way.










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    "being able to factor $N$ as 4 prime numbers $p, q, r$ and $s$" - does this mean that you know/can find the values of $p, q, r, s$, or merely that you know that $N$ has 4 factors?
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    I have found p, q, r and s. But I have no clue what way to go next. I've tried calculating the totient but I don't think that's the good way because I didn't get the answer I wanted.
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    Thank you!! I will try it
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I was wondering if there was any way to compute the private key $d$ when knowing only $e$ and $N$, and being able to factor $N$ as 4 prime numbers $p, q, r$ and $s$. I've been searching for days and I can't find any way.










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  • $begingroup$
    "being able to factor $N$ as 4 prime numbers $p, q, r$ and $s$" - does this mean that you know/can find the values of $p, q, r, s$, or merely that you know that $N$ has 4 factors?
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    I have found p, q, r and s. But I have no clue what way to go next. I've tried calculating the totient but I don't think that's the good way because I didn't get the answer I wanted.
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    Thank you!! I will try it
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I was wondering if there was any way to compute the private key $d$ when knowing only $e$ and $N$, and being able to factor $N$ as 4 prime numbers $p, q, r$ and $s$. I've been searching for days and I can't find any way.










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  • $begingroup$
    "being able to factor $N$ as 4 prime numbers $p, q, r$ and $s$" - does this mean that you know/can find the values of $p, q, r, s$, or merely that you know that $N$ has 4 factors?
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    – Ella Rose
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    I have found p, q, r and s. But I have no clue what way to go next. I've tried calculating the totient but I don't think that's the good way because I didn't get the answer I wanted.
    $endgroup$
    – Dominic
    8 hours ago










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    Thank you!! I will try it
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    – Dominic
    7 hours ago






  • 3




    $begingroup$
    @fgrieu: that sounds like an answer; why don't you post it as one...
    $endgroup$
    – poncho
    7 hours ago


















  • $begingroup$
    "being able to factor $N$ as 4 prime numbers $p, q, r$ and $s$" - does this mean that you know/can find the values of $p, q, r, s$, or merely that you know that $N$ has 4 factors?
    $endgroup$
    – Ella Rose
    8 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    I have found p, q, r and s. But I have no clue what way to go next. I've tried calculating the totient but I don't think that's the good way because I didn't get the answer I wanted.
    $endgroup$
    – Dominic
    8 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Thank you!! I will try it
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    7 hours ago






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    @fgrieu: that sounds like an answer; why don't you post it as one...
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    7 hours ago
















$begingroup$
"being able to factor $N$ as 4 prime numbers $p, q, r$ and $s$" - does this mean that you know/can find the values of $p, q, r, s$, or merely that you know that $N$ has 4 factors?
$endgroup$
– Ella Rose
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$begingroup$
"being able to factor $N$ as 4 prime numbers $p, q, r$ and $s$" - does this mean that you know/can find the values of $p, q, r, s$, or merely that you know that $N$ has 4 factors?
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I have found p, q, r and s. But I have no clue what way to go next. I've tried calculating the totient but I don't think that's the good way because I didn't get the answer I wanted.
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I have found p, q, r and s. But I have no clue what way to go next. I've tried calculating the totient but I don't think that's the good way because I didn't get the answer I wanted.
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Thank you!! I will try it
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In multi-prime RSA, with the factorization of $N$ into primes $p$, $q$, $r$, $s$ known, computing $d$ can be done as usual, e.g.$$dgets e^{-1}bmodoperatorname{lcm}(p-1,q-1,r-1,s-1)$$or$$dgets e^{-1}bmod((p-1)(q-1)(r-1)(s-1))$$



Note: the rationale of using multi-prime RSA is to obtain speedups that require not using $d$; but using $d$ will work anyway, only slower.






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    In multi-prime RSA, with the factorization of $N$ into primes $p$, $q$, $r$, $s$ known, computing $d$ can be done as usual, e.g.$$dgets e^{-1}bmodoperatorname{lcm}(p-1,q-1,r-1,s-1)$$or$$dgets e^{-1}bmod((p-1)(q-1)(r-1)(s-1))$$



    Note: the rationale of using multi-prime RSA is to obtain speedups that require not using $d$; but using $d$ will work anyway, only slower.






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      In multi-prime RSA, with the factorization of $N$ into primes $p$, $q$, $r$, $s$ known, computing $d$ can be done as usual, e.g.$$dgets e^{-1}bmodoperatorname{lcm}(p-1,q-1,r-1,s-1)$$or$$dgets e^{-1}bmod((p-1)(q-1)(r-1)(s-1))$$



      Note: the rationale of using multi-prime RSA is to obtain speedups that require not using $d$; but using $d$ will work anyway, only slower.






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        In multi-prime RSA, with the factorization of $N$ into primes $p$, $q$, $r$, $s$ known, computing $d$ can be done as usual, e.g.$$dgets e^{-1}bmodoperatorname{lcm}(p-1,q-1,r-1,s-1)$$or$$dgets e^{-1}bmod((p-1)(q-1)(r-1)(s-1))$$



        Note: the rationale of using multi-prime RSA is to obtain speedups that require not using $d$; but using $d$ will work anyway, only slower.






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        In multi-prime RSA, with the factorization of $N$ into primes $p$, $q$, $r$, $s$ known, computing $d$ can be done as usual, e.g.$$dgets e^{-1}bmodoperatorname{lcm}(p-1,q-1,r-1,s-1)$$or$$dgets e^{-1}bmod((p-1)(q-1)(r-1)(s-1))$$



        Note: the rationale of using multi-prime RSA is to obtain speedups that require not using $d$; but using $d$ will work anyway, only slower.







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