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Making the sound of 'th' in 'with'
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What is the sound of TH in the word WITH?
Is it made with the upper teeth in the bottom lips, or with the tongue between them?
Is there any source of why there are such differences with this pair of letters?
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Specifically in with (and without), the fricative can be either voiceless /θ/ or voiced /ð/. Both are frequent, even with the same speaker.
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Is it made with the upper teeth in the bottom lips, or with the tongue between them?
Is there any source of why there are such differences with this pair of letters?
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What is the sound of TH in the word WITH?
Is it made with the upper teeth in the bottom lips, or with the tongue between them?
Is there any source of why there are such differences with this pair of letters?
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Specifically in with (and without), the fricative can be either voiceless /θ/ or voiced /ð/. Both are frequent, even with the same speaker.
– John Lawler
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Specifically in with (and without), the fricative can be either voiceless /θ/ or voiced /ð/. Both are frequent, even with the same speaker.
– John Lawler
6 hours ago
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Specifically in with (and without), the fricative can be either voiceless /θ/ or voiced /ð/. Both are frequent, even with the same speaker.
– John Lawler
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Specifically in with (and without), the fricative can be either voiceless /θ/ or voiced /ð/. Both are frequent, even with the same speaker.
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th in with is realized as a voiceless or unvoiced dental fricative, /θ/ as in think, or as a voiced dental fricative, /ð/ as in father, depending on the accent.
In Wells' Longman Pronunciation Dictionary, the poll conducted about the pronunciation of with gives the following results :
- AmE : wɪθ 84%, wɪð 16%
- BrE : wɪθ 15%, wɪð 85%
Wells adds that "in Britain /wɪθ/ is nevertheless frequent in Scotland (preferred by 82% of Scottish respondents) and that in some varieties, including GenAm but not RP, there may also be a weak form /wəð, wəθ/."
Here's Gimson's description of the sound in An Introduction to the Pronunciation of English:
- The tip and rims of the tongue make a light contact with the edge and inner surface of the incisors and a firmer contact with the upper side teeth, so that the air escaping between the forward surface of the tongue and the incisors causes friction. With some speakers, the tongue-tip may protrude between the teeth.
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In English, 'th' in 'with' is an unvoiced dental fricative, with the tip of the tongue against the back of the upper teeth. The lips are not involved at all. The wiki page mentions that it is sometimes pronounced 'interdentally', the tip of the tongue between the upper and lower teeth, but this is not done in English.
The sound is rare among the world's languages so it is difficult for most people learning English. In teaching, sometimes an exaggerated articulation is encouraged, where the tongue sticks out, making for all sorts of rude humor among kids. This helps with learning but is not the native articulation in English.
answered 8 hours ago
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With respect to P's answer, mine is only about the American variety.
– Mitch
7 hours ago
To be honest, I do find the tip of my tongue sticking out from between my teeth when I say this word. But it's not for as long as the BrE pronunciation. I'm from New York, but I'm rhotic if it helps.
– David M
3 hours ago
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th in with is realized as a voiceless or unvoiced dental fricative, /θ/ as in think, or as a voiced dental fricative, /ð/ as in father, depending on the accent.
In Wells' Longman Pronunciation Dictionary, the poll conducted about the pronunciation of with gives the following results :
- AmE : wɪθ 84%, wɪð 16%
- BrE : wɪθ 15%, wɪð 85%
Wells adds that "in Britain /wɪθ/ is nevertheless frequent in Scotland (preferred by 82% of Scottish respondents) and that in some varieties, including GenAm but not RP, there may also be a weak form /wəð, wəθ/."
Here's Gimson's description of the sound in An Introduction to the Pronunciation of English:
- The tip and rims of the tongue make a light contact with the edge and inner surface of the incisors and a firmer contact with the upper side teeth, so that the air escaping between the forward surface of the tongue and the incisors causes friction. With some speakers, the tongue-tip may protrude between the teeth.
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th in with is realized as a voiceless or unvoiced dental fricative, /θ/ as in think, or as a voiced dental fricative, /ð/ as in father, depending on the accent.
In Wells' Longman Pronunciation Dictionary, the poll conducted about the pronunciation of with gives the following results :
- AmE : wɪθ 84%, wɪð 16%
- BrE : wɪθ 15%, wɪð 85%
Wells adds that "in Britain /wɪθ/ is nevertheless frequent in Scotland (preferred by 82% of Scottish respondents) and that in some varieties, including GenAm but not RP, there may also be a weak form /wəð, wəθ/."
Here's Gimson's description of the sound in An Introduction to the Pronunciation of English:
- The tip and rims of the tongue make a light contact with the edge and inner surface of the incisors and a firmer contact with the upper side teeth, so that the air escaping between the forward surface of the tongue and the incisors causes friction. With some speakers, the tongue-tip may protrude between the teeth.
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th in with is realized as a voiceless or unvoiced dental fricative, /θ/ as in think, or as a voiced dental fricative, /ð/ as in father, depending on the accent.
In Wells' Longman Pronunciation Dictionary, the poll conducted about the pronunciation of with gives the following results :
- AmE : wɪθ 84%, wɪð 16%
- BrE : wɪθ 15%, wɪð 85%
Wells adds that "in Britain /wɪθ/ is nevertheless frequent in Scotland (preferred by 82% of Scottish respondents) and that in some varieties, including GenAm but not RP, there may also be a weak form /wəð, wəθ/."
Here's Gimson's description of the sound in An Introduction to the Pronunciation of English:
- The tip and rims of the tongue make a light contact with the edge and inner surface of the incisors and a firmer contact with the upper side teeth, so that the air escaping between the forward surface of the tongue and the incisors causes friction. With some speakers, the tongue-tip may protrude between the teeth.
answered 7 hours ago
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th in with is realized as a voiceless or unvoiced dental fricative, /θ/ as in think, or as a voiced dental fricative, /ð/ as in father, depending on the accent.
In Wells' Longman Pronunciation Dictionary, the poll conducted about the pronunciation of with gives the following results :
- AmE : wɪθ 84%, wɪð 16%
- BrE : wɪθ 15%, wɪð 85%
Wells adds that "in Britain /wɪθ/ is nevertheless frequent in Scotland (preferred by 82% of Scottish respondents) and that in some varieties, including GenAm but not RP, there may also be a weak form /wəð, wəθ/."
Here's Gimson's description of the sound in An Introduction to the Pronunciation of English:
- The tip and rims of the tongue make a light contact with the edge and inner surface of the incisors and a firmer contact with the upper side teeth, so that the air escaping between the forward surface of the tongue and the incisors causes friction. With some speakers, the tongue-tip may protrude between the teeth.
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In English, 'th' in 'with' is an unvoiced dental fricative, with the tip of the tongue against the back of the upper teeth. The lips are not involved at all. The wiki page mentions that it is sometimes pronounced 'interdentally', the tip of the tongue between the upper and lower teeth, but this is not done in English.
The sound is rare among the world's languages so it is difficult for most people learning English. In teaching, sometimes an exaggerated articulation is encouraged, where the tongue sticks out, making for all sorts of rude humor among kids. This helps with learning but is not the native articulation in English.
answered 8 hours ago
MitchMitch
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With respect to P's answer, mine is only about the American variety.
– Mitch
7 hours ago
To be honest, I do find the tip of my tongue sticking out from between my teeth when I say this word. But it's not for as long as the BrE pronunciation. I'm from New York, but I'm rhotic if it helps.
– David M
3 hours ago
add a comment
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In English, 'th' in 'with' is an unvoiced dental fricative, with the tip of the tongue against the back of the upper teeth. The lips are not involved at all. The wiki page mentions that it is sometimes pronounced 'interdentally', the tip of the tongue between the upper and lower teeth, but this is not done in English.
The sound is rare among the world's languages so it is difficult for most people learning English. In teaching, sometimes an exaggerated articulation is encouraged, where the tongue sticks out, making for all sorts of rude humor among kids. This helps with learning but is not the native articulation in English.
answered 8 hours ago
MitchMitch
55.6k17 gold badges112 silver badges230 bronze badges
With respect to P's answer, mine is only about the American variety.
– Mitch
7 hours ago
To be honest, I do find the tip of my tongue sticking out from between my teeth when I say this word. But it's not for as long as the BrE pronunciation. I'm from New York, but I'm rhotic if it helps.
– David M
3 hours ago
add a comment
|
In English, 'th' in 'with' is an unvoiced dental fricative, with the tip of the tongue against the back of the upper teeth. The lips are not involved at all. The wiki page mentions that it is sometimes pronounced 'interdentally', the tip of the tongue between the upper and lower teeth, but this is not done in English.
The sound is rare among the world's languages so it is difficult for most people learning English. In teaching, sometimes an exaggerated articulation is encouraged, where the tongue sticks out, making for all sorts of rude humor among kids. This helps with learning but is not the native articulation in English.
answered 8 hours ago
MitchMitch
55.6k17 gold badges112 silver badges230 bronze badges
In English, 'th' in 'with' is an unvoiced dental fricative, with the tip of the tongue against the back of the upper teeth. The lips are not involved at all. The wiki page mentions that it is sometimes pronounced 'interdentally', the tip of the tongue between the upper and lower teeth, but this is not done in English.
The sound is rare among the world's languages so it is difficult for most people learning English. In teaching, sometimes an exaggerated articulation is encouraged, where the tongue sticks out, making for all sorts of rude humor among kids. This helps with learning but is not the native articulation in English.
answered 8 hours ago
MitchMitch
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answered 8 hours ago
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With respect to P's answer, mine is only about the American variety.
– Mitch
7 hours ago
To be honest, I do find the tip of my tongue sticking out from between my teeth when I say this word. But it's not for as long as the BrE pronunciation. I'm from New York, but I'm rhotic if it helps.
– David M
3 hours ago
add a comment
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With respect to P's answer, mine is only about the American variety.
– Mitch
7 hours ago
To be honest, I do find the tip of my tongue sticking out from between my teeth when I say this word. But it's not for as long as the BrE pronunciation. I'm from New York, but I'm rhotic if it helps.
– David M
3 hours ago
With respect to P's answer, mine is only about the American variety.
– Mitch
7 hours ago
With respect to P's answer, mine is only about the American variety.
– Mitch
7 hours ago
To be honest, I do find the tip of my tongue sticking out from between my teeth when I say this word. But it's not for as long as the BrE pronunciation. I'm from New York, but I'm rhotic if it helps.
– David M
3 hours ago
To be honest, I do find the tip of my tongue sticking out from between my teeth when I say this word. But it's not for as long as the BrE pronunciation. I'm from New York, but I'm rhotic if it helps.
– David M
3 hours ago
add a comment
|
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Specifically in with (and without), the fricative can be either voiceless /θ/ or voiced /ð/. Both are frequent, even with the same speaker.
– John Lawler
6 hours ago