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Why are Marketing Cloud timestamps not stored in the same timezone as Sales Cloud?



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I have both Sales Cloud and Marketing Cloud connected and use data shared for a Journey when new records are created.



In my object that is triggered in the journey I have a Date/Time field which gets stored in SC in UTC, however in MC timezone settings are not stored in the field.



This means when using functions like SystemDateToLocalDate(@recordTimestamp) returns the wrong time as it thinks the original date is in CST (the system timezone instead of UTC).



Is this expected behavior?










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    I have both Sales Cloud and Marketing Cloud connected and use data shared for a Journey when new records are created.



    In my object that is triggered in the journey I have a Date/Time field which gets stored in SC in UTC, however in MC timezone settings are not stored in the field.



    This means when using functions like SystemDateToLocalDate(@recordTimestamp) returns the wrong time as it thinks the original date is in CST (the system timezone instead of UTC).



    Is this expected behavior?










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      I have both Sales Cloud and Marketing Cloud connected and use data shared for a Journey when new records are created.



      In my object that is triggered in the journey I have a Date/Time field which gets stored in SC in UTC, however in MC timezone settings are not stored in the field.



      This means when using functions like SystemDateToLocalDate(@recordTimestamp) returns the wrong time as it thinks the original date is in CST (the system timezone instead of UTC).



      Is this expected behavior?










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      I have both Sales Cloud and Marketing Cloud connected and use data shared for a Journey when new records are created.



      In my object that is triggered in the journey I have a Date/Time field which gets stored in SC in UTC, however in MC timezone settings are not stored in the field.



      This means when using functions like SystemDateToLocalDate(@recordTimestamp) returns the wrong time as it thinks the original date is in CST (the system timezone instead of UTC).



      Is this expected behavior?







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          Yes this is expected. Server times for ExactTarget/Marketing Cloud is in CST: Central Standard Time (UTC minus six hours) and also the server time does not change with standard versus daylight savings time.



          There are some weird behaviors with different stacks. Apparently Stack 4 is in US Mountain time (UTC minus 7 hours).






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          • This is weird because their documentation says otherwise: help.salesforce.com/…. In the documentation it gives an example where if the date was 09/29/2016 00:00 AM in SC, it would be stored as 09/28/2016 07:00 PM in MC, but from my testing its not its still 09/29/2016 00:00 AM. In my test I simply queried out the data extension and stored to a text field which should bypass any UI time offsets.

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          • That's interesting. So what timezone are you seeing in MC?

            – Jackson Chen
            9 hours ago











          • The account is set to GMT * (The * indicates its observing DST so its really BST). So for example a date I stored was 2019/04/14 8:15:00 AM, this is stored as 2019/04/14 7:15:00 AM in SC as they store all timestamps in UTC. In my data extension inside MC this is stored as Apr 14 2019 7:15AM, this is also the value queried out as a string.

            – Deployment Failure
            9 hours ago











          • See this quote in the same link you provided "Ensure that you use the proper offset when manipulating date and time information synchronized from the Sales Cloud to the Marketing Cloud." My interpretation is that they are telling us the date is stored in CST in MC in the event you are manipulating the data after it gets to MC. It's telling you that it is NOT stored in GMT as it is on SFDC. In other words, while the numbers are different, those both represent the exact same time.

            – Jackson Chen
            8 hours ago













          • How I've interpreted that last line is that we must use offsets get back to the original timezone and this would be totally fine if the times stored between SC and MC were different. But they're not, they are the same values, just in MC its assumed that timezone is CST. The documentation states it will actually store whatever the converted CST time is. In my example above it should have stored 2:15AM instead of 7:15AM.

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          Yes this is expected. Server times for ExactTarget/Marketing Cloud is in CST: Central Standard Time (UTC minus six hours) and also the server time does not change with standard versus daylight savings time.



          There are some weird behaviors with different stacks. Apparently Stack 4 is in US Mountain time (UTC minus 7 hours).






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          • This is weird because their documentation says otherwise: help.salesforce.com/…. In the documentation it gives an example where if the date was 09/29/2016 00:00 AM in SC, it would be stored as 09/28/2016 07:00 PM in MC, but from my testing its not its still 09/29/2016 00:00 AM. In my test I simply queried out the data extension and stored to a text field which should bypass any UI time offsets.

            – Deployment Failure
            10 hours ago













          • That's interesting. So what timezone are you seeing in MC?

            – Jackson Chen
            9 hours ago











          • The account is set to GMT * (The * indicates its observing DST so its really BST). So for example a date I stored was 2019/04/14 8:15:00 AM, this is stored as 2019/04/14 7:15:00 AM in SC as they store all timestamps in UTC. In my data extension inside MC this is stored as Apr 14 2019 7:15AM, this is also the value queried out as a string.

            – Deployment Failure
            9 hours ago











          • See this quote in the same link you provided "Ensure that you use the proper offset when manipulating date and time information synchronized from the Sales Cloud to the Marketing Cloud." My interpretation is that they are telling us the date is stored in CST in MC in the event you are manipulating the data after it gets to MC. It's telling you that it is NOT stored in GMT as it is on SFDC. In other words, while the numbers are different, those both represent the exact same time.

            – Jackson Chen
            8 hours ago













          • How I've interpreted that last line is that we must use offsets get back to the original timezone and this would be totally fine if the times stored between SC and MC were different. But they're not, they are the same values, just in MC its assumed that timezone is CST. The documentation states it will actually store whatever the converted CST time is. In my example above it should have stored 2:15AM instead of 7:15AM.

            – Deployment Failure
            8 hours ago
















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          Yes this is expected. Server times for ExactTarget/Marketing Cloud is in CST: Central Standard Time (UTC minus six hours) and also the server time does not change with standard versus daylight savings time.



          There are some weird behaviors with different stacks. Apparently Stack 4 is in US Mountain time (UTC minus 7 hours).






          share|improve this answer
























          • This is weird because their documentation says otherwise: help.salesforce.com/…. In the documentation it gives an example where if the date was 09/29/2016 00:00 AM in SC, it would be stored as 09/28/2016 07:00 PM in MC, but from my testing its not its still 09/29/2016 00:00 AM. In my test I simply queried out the data extension and stored to a text field which should bypass any UI time offsets.

            – Deployment Failure
            10 hours ago













          • That's interesting. So what timezone are you seeing in MC?

            – Jackson Chen
            9 hours ago











          • The account is set to GMT * (The * indicates its observing DST so its really BST). So for example a date I stored was 2019/04/14 8:15:00 AM, this is stored as 2019/04/14 7:15:00 AM in SC as they store all timestamps in UTC. In my data extension inside MC this is stored as Apr 14 2019 7:15AM, this is also the value queried out as a string.

            – Deployment Failure
            9 hours ago











          • See this quote in the same link you provided "Ensure that you use the proper offset when manipulating date and time information synchronized from the Sales Cloud to the Marketing Cloud." My interpretation is that they are telling us the date is stored in CST in MC in the event you are manipulating the data after it gets to MC. It's telling you that it is NOT stored in GMT as it is on SFDC. In other words, while the numbers are different, those both represent the exact same time.

            – Jackson Chen
            8 hours ago













          • How I've interpreted that last line is that we must use offsets get back to the original timezone and this would be totally fine if the times stored between SC and MC were different. But they're not, they are the same values, just in MC its assumed that timezone is CST. The documentation states it will actually store whatever the converted CST time is. In my example above it should have stored 2:15AM instead of 7:15AM.

            – Deployment Failure
            8 hours ago














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          Yes this is expected. Server times for ExactTarget/Marketing Cloud is in CST: Central Standard Time (UTC minus six hours) and also the server time does not change with standard versus daylight savings time.



          There are some weird behaviors with different stacks. Apparently Stack 4 is in US Mountain time (UTC minus 7 hours).






          share|improve this answer













          Yes this is expected. Server times for ExactTarget/Marketing Cloud is in CST: Central Standard Time (UTC minus six hours) and also the server time does not change with standard versus daylight savings time.



          There are some weird behaviors with different stacks. Apparently Stack 4 is in US Mountain time (UTC minus 7 hours).







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          • This is weird because their documentation says otherwise: help.salesforce.com/…. In the documentation it gives an example where if the date was 09/29/2016 00:00 AM in SC, it would be stored as 09/28/2016 07:00 PM in MC, but from my testing its not its still 09/29/2016 00:00 AM. In my test I simply queried out the data extension and stored to a text field which should bypass any UI time offsets.

            – Deployment Failure
            10 hours ago













          • That's interesting. So what timezone are you seeing in MC?

            – Jackson Chen
            9 hours ago











          • The account is set to GMT * (The * indicates its observing DST so its really BST). So for example a date I stored was 2019/04/14 8:15:00 AM, this is stored as 2019/04/14 7:15:00 AM in SC as they store all timestamps in UTC. In my data extension inside MC this is stored as Apr 14 2019 7:15AM, this is also the value queried out as a string.

            – Deployment Failure
            9 hours ago











          • See this quote in the same link you provided "Ensure that you use the proper offset when manipulating date and time information synchronized from the Sales Cloud to the Marketing Cloud." My interpretation is that they are telling us the date is stored in CST in MC in the event you are manipulating the data after it gets to MC. It's telling you that it is NOT stored in GMT as it is on SFDC. In other words, while the numbers are different, those both represent the exact same time.

            – Jackson Chen
            8 hours ago













          • How I've interpreted that last line is that we must use offsets get back to the original timezone and this would be totally fine if the times stored between SC and MC were different. But they're not, they are the same values, just in MC its assumed that timezone is CST. The documentation states it will actually store whatever the converted CST time is. In my example above it should have stored 2:15AM instead of 7:15AM.

            – Deployment Failure
            8 hours ago



















          • This is weird because their documentation says otherwise: help.salesforce.com/…. In the documentation it gives an example where if the date was 09/29/2016 00:00 AM in SC, it would be stored as 09/28/2016 07:00 PM in MC, but from my testing its not its still 09/29/2016 00:00 AM. In my test I simply queried out the data extension and stored to a text field which should bypass any UI time offsets.

            – Deployment Failure
            10 hours ago













          • That's interesting. So what timezone are you seeing in MC?

            – Jackson Chen
            9 hours ago











          • The account is set to GMT * (The * indicates its observing DST so its really BST). So for example a date I stored was 2019/04/14 8:15:00 AM, this is stored as 2019/04/14 7:15:00 AM in SC as they store all timestamps in UTC. In my data extension inside MC this is stored as Apr 14 2019 7:15AM, this is also the value queried out as a string.

            – Deployment Failure
            9 hours ago











          • See this quote in the same link you provided "Ensure that you use the proper offset when manipulating date and time information synchronized from the Sales Cloud to the Marketing Cloud." My interpretation is that they are telling us the date is stored in CST in MC in the event you are manipulating the data after it gets to MC. It's telling you that it is NOT stored in GMT as it is on SFDC. In other words, while the numbers are different, those both represent the exact same time.

            – Jackson Chen
            8 hours ago













          • How I've interpreted that last line is that we must use offsets get back to the original timezone and this would be totally fine if the times stored between SC and MC were different. But they're not, they are the same values, just in MC its assumed that timezone is CST. The documentation states it will actually store whatever the converted CST time is. In my example above it should have stored 2:15AM instead of 7:15AM.

            – Deployment Failure
            8 hours ago

















          This is weird because their documentation says otherwise: help.salesforce.com/…. In the documentation it gives an example where if the date was 09/29/2016 00:00 AM in SC, it would be stored as 09/28/2016 07:00 PM in MC, but from my testing its not its still 09/29/2016 00:00 AM. In my test I simply queried out the data extension and stored to a text field which should bypass any UI time offsets.

          – Deployment Failure
          10 hours ago







          This is weird because their documentation says otherwise: help.salesforce.com/…. In the documentation it gives an example where if the date was 09/29/2016 00:00 AM in SC, it would be stored as 09/28/2016 07:00 PM in MC, but from my testing its not its still 09/29/2016 00:00 AM. In my test I simply queried out the data extension and stored to a text field which should bypass any UI time offsets.

          – Deployment Failure
          10 hours ago















          That's interesting. So what timezone are you seeing in MC?

          – Jackson Chen
          9 hours ago





          That's interesting. So what timezone are you seeing in MC?

          – Jackson Chen
          9 hours ago













          The account is set to GMT * (The * indicates its observing DST so its really BST). So for example a date I stored was 2019/04/14 8:15:00 AM, this is stored as 2019/04/14 7:15:00 AM in SC as they store all timestamps in UTC. In my data extension inside MC this is stored as Apr 14 2019 7:15AM, this is also the value queried out as a string.

          – Deployment Failure
          9 hours ago





          The account is set to GMT * (The * indicates its observing DST so its really BST). So for example a date I stored was 2019/04/14 8:15:00 AM, this is stored as 2019/04/14 7:15:00 AM in SC as they store all timestamps in UTC. In my data extension inside MC this is stored as Apr 14 2019 7:15AM, this is also the value queried out as a string.

          – Deployment Failure
          9 hours ago













          See this quote in the same link you provided "Ensure that you use the proper offset when manipulating date and time information synchronized from the Sales Cloud to the Marketing Cloud." My interpretation is that they are telling us the date is stored in CST in MC in the event you are manipulating the data after it gets to MC. It's telling you that it is NOT stored in GMT as it is on SFDC. In other words, while the numbers are different, those both represent the exact same time.

          – Jackson Chen
          8 hours ago







          See this quote in the same link you provided "Ensure that you use the proper offset when manipulating date and time information synchronized from the Sales Cloud to the Marketing Cloud." My interpretation is that they are telling us the date is stored in CST in MC in the event you are manipulating the data after it gets to MC. It's telling you that it is NOT stored in GMT as it is on SFDC. In other words, while the numbers are different, those both represent the exact same time.

          – Jackson Chen
          8 hours ago















          How I've interpreted that last line is that we must use offsets get back to the original timezone and this would be totally fine if the times stored between SC and MC were different. But they're not, they are the same values, just in MC its assumed that timezone is CST. The documentation states it will actually store whatever the converted CST time is. In my example above it should have stored 2:15AM instead of 7:15AM.

          – Deployment Failure
          8 hours ago





          How I've interpreted that last line is that we must use offsets get back to the original timezone and this would be totally fine if the times stored between SC and MC were different. But they're not, they are the same values, just in MC its assumed that timezone is CST. The documentation states it will actually store whatever the converted CST time is. In my example above it should have stored 2:15AM instead of 7:15AM.

          – Deployment Failure
          8 hours ago


















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