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Why favour the standard WP loop over iterating over (new WP_Query())->get_posts()?


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The WP loop goes like this:



if ( have_posts() ) {
while ( have_posts() ) {
the_post();
...


Why is it preferred over the following?



foreach( (new WP_Query())->get_posts() as $post ) { ... }


To me, it's more apparent what is going on in the latter. I'm new to PHP and WP and I'm trying to understand why I should be using the former.



What do I gain by using the standard loop? Is iterating over get_posts() any less efficient?










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  • Because WordPress already sets the instance of WP_Query for you, calling new WP_Query() will create another instance, which will be an overhead. Read this and this.

    – Fayaz
    2 hours ago


















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The WP loop goes like this:



if ( have_posts() ) {
while ( have_posts() ) {
the_post();
...


Why is it preferred over the following?



foreach( (new WP_Query())->get_posts() as $post ) { ... }


To me, it's more apparent what is going on in the latter. I'm new to PHP and WP and I'm trying to understand why I should be using the former.



What do I gain by using the standard loop? Is iterating over get_posts() any less efficient?










share|improve this question























  • Because WordPress already sets the instance of WP_Query for you, calling new WP_Query() will create another instance, which will be an overhead. Read this and this.

    – Fayaz
    2 hours ago














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The WP loop goes like this:



if ( have_posts() ) {
while ( have_posts() ) {
the_post();
...


Why is it preferred over the following?



foreach( (new WP_Query())->get_posts() as $post ) { ... }


To me, it's more apparent what is going on in the latter. I'm new to PHP and WP and I'm trying to understand why I should be using the former.



What do I gain by using the standard loop? Is iterating over get_posts() any less efficient?










share|improve this question














The WP loop goes like this:



if ( have_posts() ) {
while ( have_posts() ) {
the_post();
...


Why is it preferred over the following?



foreach( (new WP_Query())->get_posts() as $post ) { ... }


To me, it's more apparent what is going on in the latter. I'm new to PHP and WP and I'm trying to understand why I should be using the former.



What do I gain by using the standard loop? Is iterating over get_posts() any less efficient?







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  • Because WordPress already sets the instance of WP_Query for you, calling new WP_Query() will create another instance, which will be an overhead. Read this and this.

    – Fayaz
    2 hours ago



















  • Because WordPress already sets the instance of WP_Query for you, calling new WP_Query() will create another instance, which will be an overhead. Read this and this.

    – Fayaz
    2 hours ago

















Because WordPress already sets the instance of WP_Query for you, calling new WP_Query() will create another instance, which will be an overhead. Read this and this.

– Fayaz
2 hours ago





Because WordPress already sets the instance of WP_Query for you, calling new WP_Query() will create another instance, which will be an overhead. Read this and this.

– Fayaz
2 hours ago










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Several reasons



1. Filters and Actions



By using the standard loop, you execute various filters and actions that plugins rely on.



Additionally, you set up the_post correctly, allowing functions such as the_content etc to work correctly. Some filters can even insert "posts" into the loop



2. Memory Efficiency



By fetching all the posts as an array, you're forcing WP_Query to take the data it has and create WP_Post objects. With a standard post loop these are created as they're needed



3. PHP Warnings



Your loop doesn't check if any posts were actually found, so it's impossible to give a "No posts available" style message. It'll also generate PHP warnings at times.



4. Overriding WP globals



By using $post you're overriding a global variable, which can have unintended consequences, especially if this loop is nested inside another loop you're unaware of



5. PHP Efficiency and Correctness



Creating an object inside a foreach condition is bad practice, as is creating and then using an object without error checking.



6. Debugging



A lot of tools and plugins assume you're using a standard loop and have been built to make life easier. By doing this you're throwing all of that away



7. There are Better Alternatives



array_walk



A crude but superior option to your foreach might actually be array_walk:



$q = new WP_Query([ ..args ]);
array_walk( $q->get_posts(), function( $post ) {
//
});


Note that I don't recommend using array_walk.



PHP Generators



Now that's not to say you couldn't use a different style loop while still having all the advantages.



For example WP Scholar has an article showing a php generator based loop:



if ( have_posts() ) {
foreach ( wp_loop() as $post ) {
echo '<h1>' . esc_html( get_the_title() ) . '</h1>';
}
} else {
echo '<h1>No posts found!</h1>';
}


This has the advantage that it still calls all the functions of a standard loop, but they've been abstracted away.



https://wpscholar.com/blog/creating-better-wordpress-loop/



I'm sure there are others, but a standard loop is reliable predictable and readable to all






share|improve this answer































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    I advise you to take a look at the documentation:




    • The Loop | Theme Developer Handbook | WordPress Developer Resources


    you'll find more details there. But it follows a short overview:



    The Loop gives you access to:



    Template Tags





    • Template Tags | Theme Developer Handbook | WordPress Developer Resources

    • List of Template Tags | Theme Developer Handbook | WordPress Developer Resources


    Conditional Tags




    • Conditional Tags | Theme Developer Handbook | WordPress Developer Resources


    Not all Template and Conditional Tags are The Loop dependent, for an overview for what to use in The Loop:




    • What the Loop Can Display | The Loop | Theme Developer Handbook | WordPress Developer Resources


    Additionally, there are hooks that can be used with The Loop, like:




    • loop_start

    • the_post

    • loop_end


    Looking at it a bit more broadly you could include something like:





    • pre_get_posts


    And all the filters listed under:




    • WP_Query Filters | Plugin API/Filter Refernce | WordPress Codex


    Although the latter two technically do apply to a custom iteration over the $wp_query->get_posts() array too, but it is part of the system or process. And as a general rule it works better and more reliable if you use it inside the paradigm, so in this case by making use of The Loop.



    Even if you need, sometimes it is unavoidable, additional loops, you don't have to do it outside The Loop paradigm:




    • Multiple Loops | The Loop | Theme Developer Handbook | WordPress Developer Resources


    Because:




    • You can use rewind_posts() to loop through the same query a second time;


    • Or create a secondary query and loop, using wp_reset_postdata() in the process.



    Doing it this way gives you the benefits that come with The Loop, it is better integrated into how WordPress intended on doing it, and will create less overhead in the process.



    Like I said in the beginning, this is more or less just an abstract of the documentation, with some additional information and links. So you know now where to go, if you want to read up on it. Of course for some things it will be best if you deep dive into the source code itself, depending on how far you want to go. Anyhow, this should get you going, and give you enough keywords on hand to go further.






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      Several reasons



      1. Filters and Actions



      By using the standard loop, you execute various filters and actions that plugins rely on.



      Additionally, you set up the_post correctly, allowing functions such as the_content etc to work correctly. Some filters can even insert "posts" into the loop



      2. Memory Efficiency



      By fetching all the posts as an array, you're forcing WP_Query to take the data it has and create WP_Post objects. With a standard post loop these are created as they're needed



      3. PHP Warnings



      Your loop doesn't check if any posts were actually found, so it's impossible to give a "No posts available" style message. It'll also generate PHP warnings at times.



      4. Overriding WP globals



      By using $post you're overriding a global variable, which can have unintended consequences, especially if this loop is nested inside another loop you're unaware of



      5. PHP Efficiency and Correctness



      Creating an object inside a foreach condition is bad practice, as is creating and then using an object without error checking.



      6. Debugging



      A lot of tools and plugins assume you're using a standard loop and have been built to make life easier. By doing this you're throwing all of that away



      7. There are Better Alternatives



      array_walk



      A crude but superior option to your foreach might actually be array_walk:



      $q = new WP_Query([ ..args ]);
      array_walk( $q->get_posts(), function( $post ) {
      //
      });


      Note that I don't recommend using array_walk.



      PHP Generators



      Now that's not to say you couldn't use a different style loop while still having all the advantages.



      For example WP Scholar has an article showing a php generator based loop:



      if ( have_posts() ) {
      foreach ( wp_loop() as $post ) {
      echo '<h1>' . esc_html( get_the_title() ) . '</h1>';
      }
      } else {
      echo '<h1>No posts found!</h1>';
      }


      This has the advantage that it still calls all the functions of a standard loop, but they've been abstracted away.



      https://wpscholar.com/blog/creating-better-wordpress-loop/



      I'm sure there are others, but a standard loop is reliable predictable and readable to all






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        Several reasons



        1. Filters and Actions



        By using the standard loop, you execute various filters and actions that plugins rely on.



        Additionally, you set up the_post correctly, allowing functions such as the_content etc to work correctly. Some filters can even insert "posts" into the loop



        2. Memory Efficiency



        By fetching all the posts as an array, you're forcing WP_Query to take the data it has and create WP_Post objects. With a standard post loop these are created as they're needed



        3. PHP Warnings



        Your loop doesn't check if any posts were actually found, so it's impossible to give a "No posts available" style message. It'll also generate PHP warnings at times.



        4. Overriding WP globals



        By using $post you're overriding a global variable, which can have unintended consequences, especially if this loop is nested inside another loop you're unaware of



        5. PHP Efficiency and Correctness



        Creating an object inside a foreach condition is bad practice, as is creating and then using an object without error checking.



        6. Debugging



        A lot of tools and plugins assume you're using a standard loop and have been built to make life easier. By doing this you're throwing all of that away



        7. There are Better Alternatives



        array_walk



        A crude but superior option to your foreach might actually be array_walk:



        $q = new WP_Query([ ..args ]);
        array_walk( $q->get_posts(), function( $post ) {
        //
        });


        Note that I don't recommend using array_walk.



        PHP Generators



        Now that's not to say you couldn't use a different style loop while still having all the advantages.



        For example WP Scholar has an article showing a php generator based loop:



        if ( have_posts() ) {
        foreach ( wp_loop() as $post ) {
        echo '<h1>' . esc_html( get_the_title() ) . '</h1>';
        }
        } else {
        echo '<h1>No posts found!</h1>';
        }


        This has the advantage that it still calls all the functions of a standard loop, but they've been abstracted away.



        https://wpscholar.com/blog/creating-better-wordpress-loop/



        I'm sure there are others, but a standard loop is reliable predictable and readable to all






        share|improve this answer


























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          Several reasons



          1. Filters and Actions



          By using the standard loop, you execute various filters and actions that plugins rely on.



          Additionally, you set up the_post correctly, allowing functions such as the_content etc to work correctly. Some filters can even insert "posts" into the loop



          2. Memory Efficiency



          By fetching all the posts as an array, you're forcing WP_Query to take the data it has and create WP_Post objects. With a standard post loop these are created as they're needed



          3. PHP Warnings



          Your loop doesn't check if any posts were actually found, so it's impossible to give a "No posts available" style message. It'll also generate PHP warnings at times.



          4. Overriding WP globals



          By using $post you're overriding a global variable, which can have unintended consequences, especially if this loop is nested inside another loop you're unaware of



          5. PHP Efficiency and Correctness



          Creating an object inside a foreach condition is bad practice, as is creating and then using an object without error checking.



          6. Debugging



          A lot of tools and plugins assume you're using a standard loop and have been built to make life easier. By doing this you're throwing all of that away



          7. There are Better Alternatives



          array_walk



          A crude but superior option to your foreach might actually be array_walk:



          $q = new WP_Query([ ..args ]);
          array_walk( $q->get_posts(), function( $post ) {
          //
          });


          Note that I don't recommend using array_walk.



          PHP Generators



          Now that's not to say you couldn't use a different style loop while still having all the advantages.



          For example WP Scholar has an article showing a php generator based loop:



          if ( have_posts() ) {
          foreach ( wp_loop() as $post ) {
          echo '<h1>' . esc_html( get_the_title() ) . '</h1>';
          }
          } else {
          echo '<h1>No posts found!</h1>';
          }


          This has the advantage that it still calls all the functions of a standard loop, but they've been abstracted away.



          https://wpscholar.com/blog/creating-better-wordpress-loop/



          I'm sure there are others, but a standard loop is reliable predictable and readable to all






          share|improve this answer













          Several reasons



          1. Filters and Actions



          By using the standard loop, you execute various filters and actions that plugins rely on.



          Additionally, you set up the_post correctly, allowing functions such as the_content etc to work correctly. Some filters can even insert "posts" into the loop



          2. Memory Efficiency



          By fetching all the posts as an array, you're forcing WP_Query to take the data it has and create WP_Post objects. With a standard post loop these are created as they're needed



          3. PHP Warnings



          Your loop doesn't check if any posts were actually found, so it's impossible to give a "No posts available" style message. It'll also generate PHP warnings at times.



          4. Overriding WP globals



          By using $post you're overriding a global variable, which can have unintended consequences, especially if this loop is nested inside another loop you're unaware of



          5. PHP Efficiency and Correctness



          Creating an object inside a foreach condition is bad practice, as is creating and then using an object without error checking.



          6. Debugging



          A lot of tools and plugins assume you're using a standard loop and have been built to make life easier. By doing this you're throwing all of that away



          7. There are Better Alternatives



          array_walk



          A crude but superior option to your foreach might actually be array_walk:



          $q = new WP_Query([ ..args ]);
          array_walk( $q->get_posts(), function( $post ) {
          //
          });


          Note that I don't recommend using array_walk.



          PHP Generators



          Now that's not to say you couldn't use a different style loop while still having all the advantages.



          For example WP Scholar has an article showing a php generator based loop:



          if ( have_posts() ) {
          foreach ( wp_loop() as $post ) {
          echo '<h1>' . esc_html( get_the_title() ) . '</h1>';
          }
          } else {
          echo '<h1>No posts found!</h1>';
          }


          This has the advantage that it still calls all the functions of a standard loop, but they've been abstracted away.



          https://wpscholar.com/blog/creating-better-wordpress-loop/



          I'm sure there are others, but a standard loop is reliable predictable and readable to all







          share|improve this answer












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              I advise you to take a look at the documentation:




              • The Loop | Theme Developer Handbook | WordPress Developer Resources


              you'll find more details there. But it follows a short overview:



              The Loop gives you access to:



              Template Tags





              • Template Tags | Theme Developer Handbook | WordPress Developer Resources

              • List of Template Tags | Theme Developer Handbook | WordPress Developer Resources


              Conditional Tags




              • Conditional Tags | Theme Developer Handbook | WordPress Developer Resources


              Not all Template and Conditional Tags are The Loop dependent, for an overview for what to use in The Loop:




              • What the Loop Can Display | The Loop | Theme Developer Handbook | WordPress Developer Resources


              Additionally, there are hooks that can be used with The Loop, like:




              • loop_start

              • the_post

              • loop_end


              Looking at it a bit more broadly you could include something like:





              • pre_get_posts


              And all the filters listed under:




              • WP_Query Filters | Plugin API/Filter Refernce | WordPress Codex


              Although the latter two technically do apply to a custom iteration over the $wp_query->get_posts() array too, but it is part of the system or process. And as a general rule it works better and more reliable if you use it inside the paradigm, so in this case by making use of The Loop.



              Even if you need, sometimes it is unavoidable, additional loops, you don't have to do it outside The Loop paradigm:




              • Multiple Loops | The Loop | Theme Developer Handbook | WordPress Developer Resources


              Because:




              • You can use rewind_posts() to loop through the same query a second time;


              • Or create a secondary query and loop, using wp_reset_postdata() in the process.



              Doing it this way gives you the benefits that come with The Loop, it is better integrated into how WordPress intended on doing it, and will create less overhead in the process.



              Like I said in the beginning, this is more or less just an abstract of the documentation, with some additional information and links. So you know now where to go, if you want to read up on it. Of course for some things it will be best if you deep dive into the source code itself, depending on how far you want to go. Anyhow, this should get you going, and give you enough keywords on hand to go further.






              share|improve this answer




























                1














                I advise you to take a look at the documentation:




                • The Loop | Theme Developer Handbook | WordPress Developer Resources


                you'll find more details there. But it follows a short overview:



                The Loop gives you access to:



                Template Tags





                • Template Tags | Theme Developer Handbook | WordPress Developer Resources

                • List of Template Tags | Theme Developer Handbook | WordPress Developer Resources


                Conditional Tags




                • Conditional Tags | Theme Developer Handbook | WordPress Developer Resources


                Not all Template and Conditional Tags are The Loop dependent, for an overview for what to use in The Loop:




                • What the Loop Can Display | The Loop | Theme Developer Handbook | WordPress Developer Resources


                Additionally, there are hooks that can be used with The Loop, like:




                • loop_start

                • the_post

                • loop_end


                Looking at it a bit more broadly you could include something like:





                • pre_get_posts


                And all the filters listed under:




                • WP_Query Filters | Plugin API/Filter Refernce | WordPress Codex


                Although the latter two technically do apply to a custom iteration over the $wp_query->get_posts() array too, but it is part of the system or process. And as a general rule it works better and more reliable if you use it inside the paradigm, so in this case by making use of The Loop.



                Even if you need, sometimes it is unavoidable, additional loops, you don't have to do it outside The Loop paradigm:




                • Multiple Loops | The Loop | Theme Developer Handbook | WordPress Developer Resources


                Because:




                • You can use rewind_posts() to loop through the same query a second time;


                • Or create a secondary query and loop, using wp_reset_postdata() in the process.



                Doing it this way gives you the benefits that come with The Loop, it is better integrated into how WordPress intended on doing it, and will create less overhead in the process.



                Like I said in the beginning, this is more or less just an abstract of the documentation, with some additional information and links. So you know now where to go, if you want to read up on it. Of course for some things it will be best if you deep dive into the source code itself, depending on how far you want to go. Anyhow, this should get you going, and give you enough keywords on hand to go further.






                share|improve this answer


























                  1












                  1








                  1







                  I advise you to take a look at the documentation:




                  • The Loop | Theme Developer Handbook | WordPress Developer Resources


                  you'll find more details there. But it follows a short overview:



                  The Loop gives you access to:



                  Template Tags





                  • Template Tags | Theme Developer Handbook | WordPress Developer Resources

                  • List of Template Tags | Theme Developer Handbook | WordPress Developer Resources


                  Conditional Tags




                  • Conditional Tags | Theme Developer Handbook | WordPress Developer Resources


                  Not all Template and Conditional Tags are The Loop dependent, for an overview for what to use in The Loop:




                  • What the Loop Can Display | The Loop | Theme Developer Handbook | WordPress Developer Resources


                  Additionally, there are hooks that can be used with The Loop, like:




                  • loop_start

                  • the_post

                  • loop_end


                  Looking at it a bit more broadly you could include something like:





                  • pre_get_posts


                  And all the filters listed under:




                  • WP_Query Filters | Plugin API/Filter Refernce | WordPress Codex


                  Although the latter two technically do apply to a custom iteration over the $wp_query->get_posts() array too, but it is part of the system or process. And as a general rule it works better and more reliable if you use it inside the paradigm, so in this case by making use of The Loop.



                  Even if you need, sometimes it is unavoidable, additional loops, you don't have to do it outside The Loop paradigm:




                  • Multiple Loops | The Loop | Theme Developer Handbook | WordPress Developer Resources


                  Because:




                  • You can use rewind_posts() to loop through the same query a second time;


                  • Or create a secondary query and loop, using wp_reset_postdata() in the process.



                  Doing it this way gives you the benefits that come with The Loop, it is better integrated into how WordPress intended on doing it, and will create less overhead in the process.



                  Like I said in the beginning, this is more or less just an abstract of the documentation, with some additional information and links. So you know now where to go, if you want to read up on it. Of course for some things it will be best if you deep dive into the source code itself, depending on how far you want to go. Anyhow, this should get you going, and give you enough keywords on hand to go further.






                  share|improve this answer













                  I advise you to take a look at the documentation:




                  • The Loop | Theme Developer Handbook | WordPress Developer Resources


                  you'll find more details there. But it follows a short overview:



                  The Loop gives you access to:



                  Template Tags





                  • Template Tags | Theme Developer Handbook | WordPress Developer Resources

                  • List of Template Tags | Theme Developer Handbook | WordPress Developer Resources


                  Conditional Tags




                  • Conditional Tags | Theme Developer Handbook | WordPress Developer Resources


                  Not all Template and Conditional Tags are The Loop dependent, for an overview for what to use in The Loop:




                  • What the Loop Can Display | The Loop | Theme Developer Handbook | WordPress Developer Resources


                  Additionally, there are hooks that can be used with The Loop, like:




                  • loop_start

                  • the_post

                  • loop_end


                  Looking at it a bit more broadly you could include something like:





                  • pre_get_posts


                  And all the filters listed under:




                  • WP_Query Filters | Plugin API/Filter Refernce | WordPress Codex


                  Although the latter two technically do apply to a custom iteration over the $wp_query->get_posts() array too, but it is part of the system or process. And as a general rule it works better and more reliable if you use it inside the paradigm, so in this case by making use of The Loop.



                  Even if you need, sometimes it is unavoidable, additional loops, you don't have to do it outside The Loop paradigm:




                  • Multiple Loops | The Loop | Theme Developer Handbook | WordPress Developer Resources


                  Because:




                  • You can use rewind_posts() to loop through the same query a second time;


                  • Or create a secondary query and loop, using wp_reset_postdata() in the process.



                  Doing it this way gives you the benefits that come with The Loop, it is better integrated into how WordPress intended on doing it, and will create less overhead in the process.



                  Like I said in the beginning, this is more or less just an abstract of the documentation, with some additional information and links. So you know now where to go, if you want to read up on it. Of course for some things it will be best if you deep dive into the source code itself, depending on how far you want to go. Anyhow, this should get you going, and give you enough keywords on hand to go further.







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