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I sent an angry e-mail to my interviewers about a conflict at my home institution. Could this affect my application?
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I applied to a British university for a PhD in mathematics. I was interviewed and now I am waiting for the result.
I had also applied to a research opportunity abroad, which is organized by my current department head. I was very hopeful that I would be selected for this opportunity because I am the first-ranking student and my English is very good. I spoke respectfully with the head professor about it on several occasions, but it seemed like he was making excuses and was not fairly considering me.
I recently found out that my classmate was selected for the opportunity abroad. He had performed much worse than me on classes we had taken together, and his English is very weak. I lost control and told the department head that I would report this obvious injustice to the leading mathematicians at a top university that had interviewed me recently. I did indeed e-mail my interviewers at the other university.
Now that I have calmed down, I realize that I should not have emailed my interviewers in this manner. Could it affect the outcome of my application?
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I applied to a British university for a PhD in mathematics. I was interviewed and now I am waiting for the result.
I had also applied to a research opportunity abroad, which is organized by my current department head. I was very hopeful that I would be selected for this opportunity because I am the first-ranking student and my English is very good. I spoke respectfully with the head professor about it on several occasions, but it seemed like he was making excuses and was not fairly considering me.
I recently found out that my classmate was selected for the opportunity abroad. He had performed much worse than me on classes we had taken together, and his English is very weak. I lost control and told the department head that I would report this obvious injustice to the leading mathematicians at a top university that had interviewed me recently. I did indeed e-mail my interviewers at the other university.
Now that I have calmed down, I realize that I should not have emailed my interviewers in this manner. Could it affect the outcome of my application?
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Yes, such an email could affect your application. If I was reviewing an application and someone accused me of unethical behavior, I would not respond favorably.
– Vladhagen
8 hours ago
I mean I accused the professors in my present university and the university where the research opportunity has been organized. I reported this injustice to my interviewers at a different university @Vladhagen
– Guest1
8 hours ago
I have re-read the question now.
– Vladhagen
8 hours ago
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I also found this hard to parse....tried to clean up the language, feel free to edit your post if I botched anything.
– cag51
7 hours ago
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Note to readers: DO NOT DO THIS.
– JeffE
6 hours ago
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I applied to a British university for a PhD in mathematics. I was interviewed and now I am waiting for the result.
I had also applied to a research opportunity abroad, which is organized by my current department head. I was very hopeful that I would be selected for this opportunity because I am the first-ranking student and my English is very good. I spoke respectfully with the head professor about it on several occasions, but it seemed like he was making excuses and was not fairly considering me.
I recently found out that my classmate was selected for the opportunity abroad. He had performed much worse than me on classes we had taken together, and his English is very weak. I lost control and told the department head that I would report this obvious injustice to the leading mathematicians at a top university that had interviewed me recently. I did indeed e-mail my interviewers at the other university.
Now that I have calmed down, I realize that I should not have emailed my interviewers in this manner. Could it affect the outcome of my application?
phd graduate-admissions
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I applied to a British university for a PhD in mathematics. I was interviewed and now I am waiting for the result.
I had also applied to a research opportunity abroad, which is organized by my current department head. I was very hopeful that I would be selected for this opportunity because I am the first-ranking student and my English is very good. I spoke respectfully with the head professor about it on several occasions, but it seemed like he was making excuses and was not fairly considering me.
I recently found out that my classmate was selected for the opportunity abroad. He had performed much worse than me on classes we had taken together, and his English is very weak. I lost control and told the department head that I would report this obvious injustice to the leading mathematicians at a top university that had interviewed me recently. I did indeed e-mail my interviewers at the other university.
Now that I have calmed down, I realize that I should not have emailed my interviewers in this manner. Could it affect the outcome of my application?
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Yes, such an email could affect your application. If I was reviewing an application and someone accused me of unethical behavior, I would not respond favorably.
– Vladhagen
8 hours ago
I mean I accused the professors in my present university and the university where the research opportunity has been organized. I reported this injustice to my interviewers at a different university @Vladhagen
– Guest1
8 hours ago
I have re-read the question now.
– Vladhagen
8 hours ago
1
I also found this hard to parse....tried to clean up the language, feel free to edit your post if I botched anything.
– cag51
7 hours ago
11
Note to readers: DO NOT DO THIS.
– JeffE
6 hours ago
add a comment |
7
Yes, such an email could affect your application. If I was reviewing an application and someone accused me of unethical behavior, I would not respond favorably.
– Vladhagen
8 hours ago
I mean I accused the professors in my present university and the university where the research opportunity has been organized. I reported this injustice to my interviewers at a different university @Vladhagen
– Guest1
8 hours ago
I have re-read the question now.
– Vladhagen
8 hours ago
1
I also found this hard to parse....tried to clean up the language, feel free to edit your post if I botched anything.
– cag51
7 hours ago
11
Note to readers: DO NOT DO THIS.
– JeffE
6 hours ago
7
7
Yes, such an email could affect your application. If I was reviewing an application and someone accused me of unethical behavior, I would not respond favorably.
– Vladhagen
8 hours ago
Yes, such an email could affect your application. If I was reviewing an application and someone accused me of unethical behavior, I would not respond favorably.
– Vladhagen
8 hours ago
I mean I accused the professors in my present university and the university where the research opportunity has been organized. I reported this injustice to my interviewers at a different university @Vladhagen
– Guest1
8 hours ago
I mean I accused the professors in my present university and the university where the research opportunity has been organized. I reported this injustice to my interviewers at a different university @Vladhagen
– Guest1
8 hours ago
I have re-read the question now.
– Vladhagen
8 hours ago
I have re-read the question now.
– Vladhagen
8 hours ago
1
1
I also found this hard to parse....tried to clean up the language, feel free to edit your post if I botched anything.
– cag51
7 hours ago
I also found this hard to parse....tried to clean up the language, feel free to edit your post if I botched anything.
– cag51
7 hours ago
11
11
Note to readers: DO NOT DO THIS.
– JeffE
6 hours ago
Note to readers: DO NOT DO THIS.
– JeffE
6 hours ago
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I am going to just be honest in this response.
Why would the researchers at the British university you applied to care about what professors do at another university?
If I received an email from an applicant to my university about a matter at another program, I would think it was strange. Why would I care?
"Leading mathematicians" at a university unaffiliated with the research program you were not accepted for likely do not have time to become involved in petty politics and fights that are irrelevant to them.
Now, as for how it will affect your application, your email might likely mean nothing in the end. The interviewers will likely blow it off or do very little about it. This plays in your favor. Least said, soonest mended.
This being said, sending an email like you did could give an indication to the interviewers that you are whiny and immature.
I would consider sending a follow up email to the interviewers saying that you acted in haste and have realized that it is obviously not their job to referee such disagreements. More often than not, the interviewers would think it odd that you had initially emailed them, but will also move on with their day as normal if you recanted what you said and just moved on. At least for me, I do not have time to psychoanalyse every applicant I come across for maturity.
Yes it is a very good idea. Although I have calmed down, my mind is still preoccupied, that’s why I brought it up here to receive a good idea. Thanks
– Guest1
8 hours ago
5
"Now, as for how it will affect your application, your email might likely mean nothing in the end": well, it certainly means that @Guest1 is not able to handle well conflicts and stressful situations, so, yes, it can certainly affect their application in a negative way.
– Massimo Ortolano
6 hours ago
@MassimoOrtolano Much of this comes down to if the student emails the interviewer and apologizes. For me, I just don't have time to psychoanalyse. if a student can handle pressure well when admitting him or her to a graduate program.
– Vladhagen
6 hours ago
3
Vladhagen, I don't know how much experience you have but, believe me, you don't want to advise a PhD student who cannot handle the pressure well. Indeed, one day or another, you'll find someone who can't, but if you can avoid the situation right from the start it's much better. So, yes, when admitting someone you may want to spend some time to psychoanalyse applicants.
– Massimo Ortolano
6 hours ago
1
@Vladhagen I'm not a professor, but it seems like evaluating how well someone can handle pressure would be an important part of a PhD interview?
– Azor Ahai
1 hour ago
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I had some troubles following your question, but if I understood correctly then I would assume that:
The professor interviewing you is highly confused right now. They seem to have literally nothing to do with your university, the program, you (other than having interviewed you recently), and the person that you accused of being unjust - and yet they are drawn into a conflict that they have no stakes in nor responsibility for.
You may indeed have lowered your chances of getting accepted considerably. In the best case your email would be seen as odd. In the worst case it would be seen as grossly unprofessional, painting you as a trouble maker who will randomly lash out whenever something happens that you consider unjust. I have seen students like that, and I know of no professor / admission committee that wants to bother with this kind of drama.
However, now that I have calmed down I have realized that I should not have let even injustices affect me and it was unnecessary to email my interviewer.
I think your reflection should go deeper than that. It is true that part of being a professional is also being able to absorb smaller perceived unjustices like that (empathy and an ability to accept that grades aren't everything helps here), but I also can't help but wonder what you were trying to achieve with this email in the first place. To me (and note that I am only going by your short recap) this sounds rather vindictive, serving no other purpose than to get back at the person not recommending you. If that is indeed the case, you should take a good hard look at your actions in this case and learn from that for the future.
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Yes it was vindictive. I wanted to taint the reputation of those professors who intentionally did not choose me for the research opportunity. But it had nothing to do with my personal application to the British University
– Guest1
8 hours ago
Unfortunately my environment is not standard at all, and for example the head professor explicitly told me that my supervisor who is his own colleague not a good professor. That’s why they didn’t choose me for the program. But as you mentioned I should be professional not letting such things affect me.
– Guest1
7 hours ago
1
@Guest1 For further reflection the professor might have been evasive because his real reasons for not choosing you is your character. If you behaved similarly in the past or gave him reason to think you would, it's possible he considered you unfit or did not want to recommend someone that could reflect bad on him when it turns out at the other university that the person feels entitled and handles rejection badly. I'm not saying this is the case, but for the future, consider that grades and what you perceive to be valid criteria are not necessarily (all) the criteria someone else applies.
– Frank Hopkins
11 mins ago
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Throwing accusations around without proof of wrongdoing will not make you any friends, not at your university and neither where you applied. First, let's address the accusations and why you should have kept them to yourself:
- You didn't attend the interview of the chosen student. He/she might have shown desirable traits beyond academic prowess
- Maybe the student had relevant experience that you were not aware of
- Most people are a poor judge of their own ability
Even in the case where you, objectively, were the better student, it still is not proof of any wrongdoing and learning to take defeat graciously reflects much better on you than throwing a tantrum.
Finally, this email you sent will definitely affect the way you are seen by the interviewer. At best, it will be seen as childish/petty, but it could also reflect a troublemaker personality. I suggest you immediately retract what you said in this email unless you have proof, along the lines of 'I now recognize I was too hasty in throwing such accusations, and I'm sorry for involving you in this matter'.
Yes you are right. I will email him that I shouldn’t have involved him in this issue, but I won’t retract because what I had emailed him was based on proofs, as my present academic supervisor attests to it too.
– Guest1
8 hours ago
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I am going to just be honest in this response.
Why would the researchers at the British university you applied to care about what professors do at another university?
If I received an email from an applicant to my university about a matter at another program, I would think it was strange. Why would I care?
"Leading mathematicians" at a university unaffiliated with the research program you were not accepted for likely do not have time to become involved in petty politics and fights that are irrelevant to them.
Now, as for how it will affect your application, your email might likely mean nothing in the end. The interviewers will likely blow it off or do very little about it. This plays in your favor. Least said, soonest mended.
This being said, sending an email like you did could give an indication to the interviewers that you are whiny and immature.
I would consider sending a follow up email to the interviewers saying that you acted in haste and have realized that it is obviously not their job to referee such disagreements. More often than not, the interviewers would think it odd that you had initially emailed them, but will also move on with their day as normal if you recanted what you said and just moved on. At least for me, I do not have time to psychoanalyse every applicant I come across for maturity.
Yes it is a very good idea. Although I have calmed down, my mind is still preoccupied, that’s why I brought it up here to receive a good idea. Thanks
– Guest1
8 hours ago
5
"Now, as for how it will affect your application, your email might likely mean nothing in the end": well, it certainly means that @Guest1 is not able to handle well conflicts and stressful situations, so, yes, it can certainly affect their application in a negative way.
– Massimo Ortolano
6 hours ago
@MassimoOrtolano Much of this comes down to if the student emails the interviewer and apologizes. For me, I just don't have time to psychoanalyse. if a student can handle pressure well when admitting him or her to a graduate program.
– Vladhagen
6 hours ago
3
Vladhagen, I don't know how much experience you have but, believe me, you don't want to advise a PhD student who cannot handle the pressure well. Indeed, one day or another, you'll find someone who can't, but if you can avoid the situation right from the start it's much better. So, yes, when admitting someone you may want to spend some time to psychoanalyse applicants.
– Massimo Ortolano
6 hours ago
1
@Vladhagen I'm not a professor, but it seems like evaluating how well someone can handle pressure would be an important part of a PhD interview?
– Azor Ahai
1 hour ago
|
show 3 more comments
I am going to just be honest in this response.
Why would the researchers at the British university you applied to care about what professors do at another university?
If I received an email from an applicant to my university about a matter at another program, I would think it was strange. Why would I care?
"Leading mathematicians" at a university unaffiliated with the research program you were not accepted for likely do not have time to become involved in petty politics and fights that are irrelevant to them.
Now, as for how it will affect your application, your email might likely mean nothing in the end. The interviewers will likely blow it off or do very little about it. This plays in your favor. Least said, soonest mended.
This being said, sending an email like you did could give an indication to the interviewers that you are whiny and immature.
I would consider sending a follow up email to the interviewers saying that you acted in haste and have realized that it is obviously not their job to referee such disagreements. More often than not, the interviewers would think it odd that you had initially emailed them, but will also move on with their day as normal if you recanted what you said and just moved on. At least for me, I do not have time to psychoanalyse every applicant I come across for maturity.
Yes it is a very good idea. Although I have calmed down, my mind is still preoccupied, that’s why I brought it up here to receive a good idea. Thanks
– Guest1
8 hours ago
5
"Now, as for how it will affect your application, your email might likely mean nothing in the end": well, it certainly means that @Guest1 is not able to handle well conflicts and stressful situations, so, yes, it can certainly affect their application in a negative way.
– Massimo Ortolano
6 hours ago
@MassimoOrtolano Much of this comes down to if the student emails the interviewer and apologizes. For me, I just don't have time to psychoanalyse. if a student can handle pressure well when admitting him or her to a graduate program.
– Vladhagen
6 hours ago
3
Vladhagen, I don't know how much experience you have but, believe me, you don't want to advise a PhD student who cannot handle the pressure well. Indeed, one day or another, you'll find someone who can't, but if you can avoid the situation right from the start it's much better. So, yes, when admitting someone you may want to spend some time to psychoanalyse applicants.
– Massimo Ortolano
6 hours ago
1
@Vladhagen I'm not a professor, but it seems like evaluating how well someone can handle pressure would be an important part of a PhD interview?
– Azor Ahai
1 hour ago
|
show 3 more comments
I am going to just be honest in this response.
Why would the researchers at the British university you applied to care about what professors do at another university?
If I received an email from an applicant to my university about a matter at another program, I would think it was strange. Why would I care?
"Leading mathematicians" at a university unaffiliated with the research program you were not accepted for likely do not have time to become involved in petty politics and fights that are irrelevant to them.
Now, as for how it will affect your application, your email might likely mean nothing in the end. The interviewers will likely blow it off or do very little about it. This plays in your favor. Least said, soonest mended.
This being said, sending an email like you did could give an indication to the interviewers that you are whiny and immature.
I would consider sending a follow up email to the interviewers saying that you acted in haste and have realized that it is obviously not their job to referee such disagreements. More often than not, the interviewers would think it odd that you had initially emailed them, but will also move on with their day as normal if you recanted what you said and just moved on. At least for me, I do not have time to psychoanalyse every applicant I come across for maturity.
I am going to just be honest in this response.
Why would the researchers at the British university you applied to care about what professors do at another university?
If I received an email from an applicant to my university about a matter at another program, I would think it was strange. Why would I care?
"Leading mathematicians" at a university unaffiliated with the research program you were not accepted for likely do not have time to become involved in petty politics and fights that are irrelevant to them.
Now, as for how it will affect your application, your email might likely mean nothing in the end. The interviewers will likely blow it off or do very little about it. This plays in your favor. Least said, soonest mended.
This being said, sending an email like you did could give an indication to the interviewers that you are whiny and immature.
I would consider sending a follow up email to the interviewers saying that you acted in haste and have realized that it is obviously not their job to referee such disagreements. More often than not, the interviewers would think it odd that you had initially emailed them, but will also move on with their day as normal if you recanted what you said and just moved on. At least for me, I do not have time to psychoanalyse every applicant I come across for maturity.
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Yes it is a very good idea. Although I have calmed down, my mind is still preoccupied, that’s why I brought it up here to receive a good idea. Thanks
– Guest1
8 hours ago
5
"Now, as for how it will affect your application, your email might likely mean nothing in the end": well, it certainly means that @Guest1 is not able to handle well conflicts and stressful situations, so, yes, it can certainly affect their application in a negative way.
– Massimo Ortolano
6 hours ago
@MassimoOrtolano Much of this comes down to if the student emails the interviewer and apologizes. For me, I just don't have time to psychoanalyse. if a student can handle pressure well when admitting him or her to a graduate program.
– Vladhagen
6 hours ago
3
Vladhagen, I don't know how much experience you have but, believe me, you don't want to advise a PhD student who cannot handle the pressure well. Indeed, one day or another, you'll find someone who can't, but if you can avoid the situation right from the start it's much better. So, yes, when admitting someone you may want to spend some time to psychoanalyse applicants.
– Massimo Ortolano
6 hours ago
1
@Vladhagen I'm not a professor, but it seems like evaluating how well someone can handle pressure would be an important part of a PhD interview?
– Azor Ahai
1 hour ago
|
show 3 more comments
Yes it is a very good idea. Although I have calmed down, my mind is still preoccupied, that’s why I brought it up here to receive a good idea. Thanks
– Guest1
8 hours ago
5
"Now, as for how it will affect your application, your email might likely mean nothing in the end": well, it certainly means that @Guest1 is not able to handle well conflicts and stressful situations, so, yes, it can certainly affect their application in a negative way.
– Massimo Ortolano
6 hours ago
@MassimoOrtolano Much of this comes down to if the student emails the interviewer and apologizes. For me, I just don't have time to psychoanalyse. if a student can handle pressure well when admitting him or her to a graduate program.
– Vladhagen
6 hours ago
3
Vladhagen, I don't know how much experience you have but, believe me, you don't want to advise a PhD student who cannot handle the pressure well. Indeed, one day or another, you'll find someone who can't, but if you can avoid the situation right from the start it's much better. So, yes, when admitting someone you may want to spend some time to psychoanalyse applicants.
– Massimo Ortolano
6 hours ago
1
@Vladhagen I'm not a professor, but it seems like evaluating how well someone can handle pressure would be an important part of a PhD interview?
– Azor Ahai
1 hour ago
Yes it is a very good idea. Although I have calmed down, my mind is still preoccupied, that’s why I brought it up here to receive a good idea. Thanks
– Guest1
8 hours ago
Yes it is a very good idea. Although I have calmed down, my mind is still preoccupied, that’s why I brought it up here to receive a good idea. Thanks
– Guest1
8 hours ago
5
5
"Now, as for how it will affect your application, your email might likely mean nothing in the end": well, it certainly means that @Guest1 is not able to handle well conflicts and stressful situations, so, yes, it can certainly affect their application in a negative way.
– Massimo Ortolano
6 hours ago
"Now, as for how it will affect your application, your email might likely mean nothing in the end": well, it certainly means that @Guest1 is not able to handle well conflicts and stressful situations, so, yes, it can certainly affect their application in a negative way.
– Massimo Ortolano
6 hours ago
@MassimoOrtolano Much of this comes down to if the student emails the interviewer and apologizes. For me, I just don't have time to psychoanalyse. if a student can handle pressure well when admitting him or her to a graduate program.
– Vladhagen
6 hours ago
@MassimoOrtolano Much of this comes down to if the student emails the interviewer and apologizes. For me, I just don't have time to psychoanalyse. if a student can handle pressure well when admitting him or her to a graduate program.
– Vladhagen
6 hours ago
3
3
Vladhagen, I don't know how much experience you have but, believe me, you don't want to advise a PhD student who cannot handle the pressure well. Indeed, one day or another, you'll find someone who can't, but if you can avoid the situation right from the start it's much better. So, yes, when admitting someone you may want to spend some time to psychoanalyse applicants.
– Massimo Ortolano
6 hours ago
Vladhagen, I don't know how much experience you have but, believe me, you don't want to advise a PhD student who cannot handle the pressure well. Indeed, one day or another, you'll find someone who can't, but if you can avoid the situation right from the start it's much better. So, yes, when admitting someone you may want to spend some time to psychoanalyse applicants.
– Massimo Ortolano
6 hours ago
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@Vladhagen I'm not a professor, but it seems like evaluating how well someone can handle pressure would be an important part of a PhD interview?
– Azor Ahai
1 hour ago
@Vladhagen I'm not a professor, but it seems like evaluating how well someone can handle pressure would be an important part of a PhD interview?
– Azor Ahai
1 hour ago
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I had some troubles following your question, but if I understood correctly then I would assume that:
The professor interviewing you is highly confused right now. They seem to have literally nothing to do with your university, the program, you (other than having interviewed you recently), and the person that you accused of being unjust - and yet they are drawn into a conflict that they have no stakes in nor responsibility for.
You may indeed have lowered your chances of getting accepted considerably. In the best case your email would be seen as odd. In the worst case it would be seen as grossly unprofessional, painting you as a trouble maker who will randomly lash out whenever something happens that you consider unjust. I have seen students like that, and I know of no professor / admission committee that wants to bother with this kind of drama.
However, now that I have calmed down I have realized that I should not have let even injustices affect me and it was unnecessary to email my interviewer.
I think your reflection should go deeper than that. It is true that part of being a professional is also being able to absorb smaller perceived unjustices like that (empathy and an ability to accept that grades aren't everything helps here), but I also can't help but wonder what you were trying to achieve with this email in the first place. To me (and note that I am only going by your short recap) this sounds rather vindictive, serving no other purpose than to get back at the person not recommending you. If that is indeed the case, you should take a good hard look at your actions in this case and learn from that for the future.
2
Yes it was vindictive. I wanted to taint the reputation of those professors who intentionally did not choose me for the research opportunity. But it had nothing to do with my personal application to the British University
– Guest1
8 hours ago
Unfortunately my environment is not standard at all, and for example the head professor explicitly told me that my supervisor who is his own colleague not a good professor. That’s why they didn’t choose me for the program. But as you mentioned I should be professional not letting such things affect me.
– Guest1
7 hours ago
1
@Guest1 For further reflection the professor might have been evasive because his real reasons for not choosing you is your character. If you behaved similarly in the past or gave him reason to think you would, it's possible he considered you unfit or did not want to recommend someone that could reflect bad on him when it turns out at the other university that the person feels entitled and handles rejection badly. I'm not saying this is the case, but for the future, consider that grades and what you perceive to be valid criteria are not necessarily (all) the criteria someone else applies.
– Frank Hopkins
11 mins ago
add a comment |
I had some troubles following your question, but if I understood correctly then I would assume that:
The professor interviewing you is highly confused right now. They seem to have literally nothing to do with your university, the program, you (other than having interviewed you recently), and the person that you accused of being unjust - and yet they are drawn into a conflict that they have no stakes in nor responsibility for.
You may indeed have lowered your chances of getting accepted considerably. In the best case your email would be seen as odd. In the worst case it would be seen as grossly unprofessional, painting you as a trouble maker who will randomly lash out whenever something happens that you consider unjust. I have seen students like that, and I know of no professor / admission committee that wants to bother with this kind of drama.
However, now that I have calmed down I have realized that I should not have let even injustices affect me and it was unnecessary to email my interviewer.
I think your reflection should go deeper than that. It is true that part of being a professional is also being able to absorb smaller perceived unjustices like that (empathy and an ability to accept that grades aren't everything helps here), but I also can't help but wonder what you were trying to achieve with this email in the first place. To me (and note that I am only going by your short recap) this sounds rather vindictive, serving no other purpose than to get back at the person not recommending you. If that is indeed the case, you should take a good hard look at your actions in this case and learn from that for the future.
2
Yes it was vindictive. I wanted to taint the reputation of those professors who intentionally did not choose me for the research opportunity. But it had nothing to do with my personal application to the British University
– Guest1
8 hours ago
Unfortunately my environment is not standard at all, and for example the head professor explicitly told me that my supervisor who is his own colleague not a good professor. That’s why they didn’t choose me for the program. But as you mentioned I should be professional not letting such things affect me.
– Guest1
7 hours ago
1
@Guest1 For further reflection the professor might have been evasive because his real reasons for not choosing you is your character. If you behaved similarly in the past or gave him reason to think you would, it's possible he considered you unfit or did not want to recommend someone that could reflect bad on him when it turns out at the other university that the person feels entitled and handles rejection badly. I'm not saying this is the case, but for the future, consider that grades and what you perceive to be valid criteria are not necessarily (all) the criteria someone else applies.
– Frank Hopkins
11 mins ago
add a comment |
I had some troubles following your question, but if I understood correctly then I would assume that:
The professor interviewing you is highly confused right now. They seem to have literally nothing to do with your university, the program, you (other than having interviewed you recently), and the person that you accused of being unjust - and yet they are drawn into a conflict that they have no stakes in nor responsibility for.
You may indeed have lowered your chances of getting accepted considerably. In the best case your email would be seen as odd. In the worst case it would be seen as grossly unprofessional, painting you as a trouble maker who will randomly lash out whenever something happens that you consider unjust. I have seen students like that, and I know of no professor / admission committee that wants to bother with this kind of drama.
However, now that I have calmed down I have realized that I should not have let even injustices affect me and it was unnecessary to email my interviewer.
I think your reflection should go deeper than that. It is true that part of being a professional is also being able to absorb smaller perceived unjustices like that (empathy and an ability to accept that grades aren't everything helps here), but I also can't help but wonder what you were trying to achieve with this email in the first place. To me (and note that I am only going by your short recap) this sounds rather vindictive, serving no other purpose than to get back at the person not recommending you. If that is indeed the case, you should take a good hard look at your actions in this case and learn from that for the future.
I had some troubles following your question, but if I understood correctly then I would assume that:
The professor interviewing you is highly confused right now. They seem to have literally nothing to do with your university, the program, you (other than having interviewed you recently), and the person that you accused of being unjust - and yet they are drawn into a conflict that they have no stakes in nor responsibility for.
You may indeed have lowered your chances of getting accepted considerably. In the best case your email would be seen as odd. In the worst case it would be seen as grossly unprofessional, painting you as a trouble maker who will randomly lash out whenever something happens that you consider unjust. I have seen students like that, and I know of no professor / admission committee that wants to bother with this kind of drama.
However, now that I have calmed down I have realized that I should not have let even injustices affect me and it was unnecessary to email my interviewer.
I think your reflection should go deeper than that. It is true that part of being a professional is also being able to absorb smaller perceived unjustices like that (empathy and an ability to accept that grades aren't everything helps here), but I also can't help but wonder what you were trying to achieve with this email in the first place. To me (and note that I am only going by your short recap) this sounds rather vindictive, serving no other purpose than to get back at the person not recommending you. If that is indeed the case, you should take a good hard look at your actions in this case and learn from that for the future.
answered 8 hours ago
xLeitixxLeitix
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Yes it was vindictive. I wanted to taint the reputation of those professors who intentionally did not choose me for the research opportunity. But it had nothing to do with my personal application to the British University
– Guest1
8 hours ago
Unfortunately my environment is not standard at all, and for example the head professor explicitly told me that my supervisor who is his own colleague not a good professor. That’s why they didn’t choose me for the program. But as you mentioned I should be professional not letting such things affect me.
– Guest1
7 hours ago
1
@Guest1 For further reflection the professor might have been evasive because his real reasons for not choosing you is your character. If you behaved similarly in the past or gave him reason to think you would, it's possible he considered you unfit or did not want to recommend someone that could reflect bad on him when it turns out at the other university that the person feels entitled and handles rejection badly. I'm not saying this is the case, but for the future, consider that grades and what you perceive to be valid criteria are not necessarily (all) the criteria someone else applies.
– Frank Hopkins
11 mins ago
add a comment |
2
Yes it was vindictive. I wanted to taint the reputation of those professors who intentionally did not choose me for the research opportunity. But it had nothing to do with my personal application to the British University
– Guest1
8 hours ago
Unfortunately my environment is not standard at all, and for example the head professor explicitly told me that my supervisor who is his own colleague not a good professor. That’s why they didn’t choose me for the program. But as you mentioned I should be professional not letting such things affect me.
– Guest1
7 hours ago
1
@Guest1 For further reflection the professor might have been evasive because his real reasons for not choosing you is your character. If you behaved similarly in the past or gave him reason to think you would, it's possible he considered you unfit or did not want to recommend someone that could reflect bad on him when it turns out at the other university that the person feels entitled and handles rejection badly. I'm not saying this is the case, but for the future, consider that grades and what you perceive to be valid criteria are not necessarily (all) the criteria someone else applies.
– Frank Hopkins
11 mins ago
2
2
Yes it was vindictive. I wanted to taint the reputation of those professors who intentionally did not choose me for the research opportunity. But it had nothing to do with my personal application to the British University
– Guest1
8 hours ago
Yes it was vindictive. I wanted to taint the reputation of those professors who intentionally did not choose me for the research opportunity. But it had nothing to do with my personal application to the British University
– Guest1
8 hours ago
Unfortunately my environment is not standard at all, and for example the head professor explicitly told me that my supervisor who is his own colleague not a good professor. That’s why they didn’t choose me for the program. But as you mentioned I should be professional not letting such things affect me.
– Guest1
7 hours ago
Unfortunately my environment is not standard at all, and for example the head professor explicitly told me that my supervisor who is his own colleague not a good professor. That’s why they didn’t choose me for the program. But as you mentioned I should be professional not letting such things affect me.
– Guest1
7 hours ago
1
1
@Guest1 For further reflection the professor might have been evasive because his real reasons for not choosing you is your character. If you behaved similarly in the past or gave him reason to think you would, it's possible he considered you unfit or did not want to recommend someone that could reflect bad on him when it turns out at the other university that the person feels entitled and handles rejection badly. I'm not saying this is the case, but for the future, consider that grades and what you perceive to be valid criteria are not necessarily (all) the criteria someone else applies.
– Frank Hopkins
11 mins ago
@Guest1 For further reflection the professor might have been evasive because his real reasons for not choosing you is your character. If you behaved similarly in the past or gave him reason to think you would, it's possible he considered you unfit or did not want to recommend someone that could reflect bad on him when it turns out at the other university that the person feels entitled and handles rejection badly. I'm not saying this is the case, but for the future, consider that grades and what you perceive to be valid criteria are not necessarily (all) the criteria someone else applies.
– Frank Hopkins
11 mins ago
add a comment |
Throwing accusations around without proof of wrongdoing will not make you any friends, not at your university and neither where you applied. First, let's address the accusations and why you should have kept them to yourself:
- You didn't attend the interview of the chosen student. He/she might have shown desirable traits beyond academic prowess
- Maybe the student had relevant experience that you were not aware of
- Most people are a poor judge of their own ability
Even in the case where you, objectively, were the better student, it still is not proof of any wrongdoing and learning to take defeat graciously reflects much better on you than throwing a tantrum.
Finally, this email you sent will definitely affect the way you are seen by the interviewer. At best, it will be seen as childish/petty, but it could also reflect a troublemaker personality. I suggest you immediately retract what you said in this email unless you have proof, along the lines of 'I now recognize I was too hasty in throwing such accusations, and I'm sorry for involving you in this matter'.
Yes you are right. I will email him that I shouldn’t have involved him in this issue, but I won’t retract because what I had emailed him was based on proofs, as my present academic supervisor attests to it too.
– Guest1
8 hours ago
add a comment |
Throwing accusations around without proof of wrongdoing will not make you any friends, not at your university and neither where you applied. First, let's address the accusations and why you should have kept them to yourself:
- You didn't attend the interview of the chosen student. He/she might have shown desirable traits beyond academic prowess
- Maybe the student had relevant experience that you were not aware of
- Most people are a poor judge of their own ability
Even in the case where you, objectively, were the better student, it still is not proof of any wrongdoing and learning to take defeat graciously reflects much better on you than throwing a tantrum.
Finally, this email you sent will definitely affect the way you are seen by the interviewer. At best, it will be seen as childish/petty, but it could also reflect a troublemaker personality. I suggest you immediately retract what you said in this email unless you have proof, along the lines of 'I now recognize I was too hasty in throwing such accusations, and I'm sorry for involving you in this matter'.
Yes you are right. I will email him that I shouldn’t have involved him in this issue, but I won’t retract because what I had emailed him was based on proofs, as my present academic supervisor attests to it too.
– Guest1
8 hours ago
add a comment |
Throwing accusations around without proof of wrongdoing will not make you any friends, not at your university and neither where you applied. First, let's address the accusations and why you should have kept them to yourself:
- You didn't attend the interview of the chosen student. He/she might have shown desirable traits beyond academic prowess
- Maybe the student had relevant experience that you were not aware of
- Most people are a poor judge of their own ability
Even in the case where you, objectively, were the better student, it still is not proof of any wrongdoing and learning to take defeat graciously reflects much better on you than throwing a tantrum.
Finally, this email you sent will definitely affect the way you are seen by the interviewer. At best, it will be seen as childish/petty, but it could also reflect a troublemaker personality. I suggest you immediately retract what you said in this email unless you have proof, along the lines of 'I now recognize I was too hasty in throwing such accusations, and I'm sorry for involving you in this matter'.
Throwing accusations around without proof of wrongdoing will not make you any friends, not at your university and neither where you applied. First, let's address the accusations and why you should have kept them to yourself:
- You didn't attend the interview of the chosen student. He/she might have shown desirable traits beyond academic prowess
- Maybe the student had relevant experience that you were not aware of
- Most people are a poor judge of their own ability
Even in the case where you, objectively, were the better student, it still is not proof of any wrongdoing and learning to take defeat graciously reflects much better on you than throwing a tantrum.
Finally, this email you sent will definitely affect the way you are seen by the interviewer. At best, it will be seen as childish/petty, but it could also reflect a troublemaker personality. I suggest you immediately retract what you said in this email unless you have proof, along the lines of 'I now recognize I was too hasty in throwing such accusations, and I'm sorry for involving you in this matter'.
answered 8 hours ago
HairyBlobHairyBlob
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Yes you are right. I will email him that I shouldn’t have involved him in this issue, but I won’t retract because what I had emailed him was based on proofs, as my present academic supervisor attests to it too.
– Guest1
8 hours ago
add a comment |
Yes you are right. I will email him that I shouldn’t have involved him in this issue, but I won’t retract because what I had emailed him was based on proofs, as my present academic supervisor attests to it too.
– Guest1
8 hours ago
Yes you are right. I will email him that I shouldn’t have involved him in this issue, but I won’t retract because what I had emailed him was based on proofs, as my present academic supervisor attests to it too.
– Guest1
8 hours ago
Yes you are right. I will email him that I shouldn’t have involved him in this issue, but I won’t retract because what I had emailed him was based on proofs, as my present academic supervisor attests to it too.
– Guest1
8 hours ago
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Yes, such an email could affect your application. If I was reviewing an application and someone accused me of unethical behavior, I would not respond favorably.
– Vladhagen
8 hours ago
I mean I accused the professors in my present university and the university where the research opportunity has been organized. I reported this injustice to my interviewers at a different university @Vladhagen
– Guest1
8 hours ago
I have re-read the question now.
– Vladhagen
8 hours ago
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I also found this hard to parse....tried to clean up the language, feel free to edit your post if I botched anything.
– cag51
7 hours ago
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Note to readers: DO NOT DO THIS.
– JeffE
6 hours ago