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How can I print a 1 cm overhang with minimal supports?


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The red ring is 3.5 mm above the bottom of the orange cylinder. The red ring is 1cm thick. I'd prefer not to use supports because I tend to break as much as I clean up.



I know this could be done in two pieces but then I'd have to make sure the pieces fit and then glue it in at that's too much. It'd be ideal to print this as one piece. How can I do this with as few supports as possible?










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    The red ring is 3.5 mm above the bottom of the orange cylinder. The red ring is 1cm thick. I'd prefer not to use supports because I tend to break as much as I clean up.



    I know this could be done in two pieces but then I'd have to make sure the pieces fit and then glue it in at that's too much. It'd be ideal to print this as one piece. How can I do this with as few supports as possible?










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      Here's the thing I want to print.



      enter image description here



      The red ring is 3.5 mm above the bottom of the orange cylinder. The red ring is 1cm thick. I'd prefer not to use supports because I tend to break as much as I clean up.



      I know this could be done in two pieces but then I'd have to make sure the pieces fit and then glue it in at that's too much. It'd be ideal to print this as one piece. How can I do this with as few supports as possible?










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      The red ring is 3.5 mm above the bottom of the orange cylinder. The red ring is 1cm thick. I'd prefer not to use supports because I tend to break as much as I clean up.



      I know this could be done in two pieces but then I'd have to make sure the pieces fit and then glue it in at that's too much. It'd be ideal to print this as one piece. How can I do this with as few supports as possible?







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          Three ideas




          1. If either side of the red ring can have a chamfer to meet the cylinder, add the chamfer and print with the chamfer side down.

          2. If both sides of the red ring must be perpendicular to the axis of
            the cylinder, can you print the cylinder lying on its side? You
            might get good enough print quality, especially if printing with
            thinner layers toward the top.

          3. If that is unsatisfactory, try explicitly adding an inner support
            ring as part of the model. Don't depend on the slicer to do what
            you want, do it yourself. You would then be bridging to make the
            red disk, but that can work surprisingly well with a good cooling
            fan and printer.


          In all three cases, consider the slot holes you have in the red ring. For case 3 you may need to add a support around those holes as well. In case 2, they would want to be pointed vertically. In case 1, the chamfer would be modified to have holes of cavities matching the slot holes.






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            Not OP, but can you elaborate on idea 3? Do you mean add a ring under the 2nd orientation and leaving a small gap to the actual model? Wouldn't this just be support that's difficult to pry off? Or do you mean a cylinder at the same height/position as the ring so the entire hole is covered? How would you remove that afterwards?
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          Most slicers have extensive settings to control the layout of the support structures, the distance to the overhanging part, line thickness, etc.



          If that doesn't work out for you, you can always change the design to add custom support structures yourself to not having to fiddle with the support settings.






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            You can print the support as a separate piece, then when the time is right pause the print, insert the support part into the ring and the resume printing. I guess you might have to use PVA glue on the support to ensure that it comes off easily when the time is right, but I'll leave that experimentation up to you. Note: This is going to be very much trial and error on your part.






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              Three ideas




              1. If either side of the red ring can have a chamfer to meet the cylinder, add the chamfer and print with the chamfer side down.

              2. If both sides of the red ring must be perpendicular to the axis of
                the cylinder, can you print the cylinder lying on its side? You
                might get good enough print quality, especially if printing with
                thinner layers toward the top.

              3. If that is unsatisfactory, try explicitly adding an inner support
                ring as part of the model. Don't depend on the slicer to do what
                you want, do it yourself. You would then be bridging to make the
                red disk, but that can work surprisingly well with a good cooling
                fan and printer.


              In all three cases, consider the slot holes you have in the red ring. For case 3 you may need to add a support around those holes as well. In case 2, they would want to be pointed vertically. In case 1, the chamfer would be modified to have holes of cavities matching the slot holes.






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              • $begingroup$
                Not OP, but can you elaborate on idea 3? Do you mean add a ring under the 2nd orientation and leaving a small gap to the actual model? Wouldn't this just be support that's difficult to pry off? Or do you mean a cylinder at the same height/position as the ring so the entire hole is covered? How would you remove that afterwards?
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              $begingroup$

              Three ideas




              1. If either side of the red ring can have a chamfer to meet the cylinder, add the chamfer and print with the chamfer side down.

              2. If both sides of the red ring must be perpendicular to the axis of
                the cylinder, can you print the cylinder lying on its side? You
                might get good enough print quality, especially if printing with
                thinner layers toward the top.

              3. If that is unsatisfactory, try explicitly adding an inner support
                ring as part of the model. Don't depend on the slicer to do what
                you want, do it yourself. You would then be bridging to make the
                red disk, but that can work surprisingly well with a good cooling
                fan and printer.


              In all three cases, consider the slot holes you have in the red ring. For case 3 you may need to add a support around those holes as well. In case 2, they would want to be pointed vertically. In case 1, the chamfer would be modified to have holes of cavities matching the slot holes.






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              • $begingroup$
                Not OP, but can you elaborate on idea 3? Do you mean add a ring under the 2nd orientation and leaving a small gap to the actual model? Wouldn't this just be support that's difficult to pry off? Or do you mean a cylinder at the same height/position as the ring so the entire hole is covered? How would you remove that afterwards?
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              Three ideas




              1. If either side of the red ring can have a chamfer to meet the cylinder, add the chamfer and print with the chamfer side down.

              2. If both sides of the red ring must be perpendicular to the axis of
                the cylinder, can you print the cylinder lying on its side? You
                might get good enough print quality, especially if printing with
                thinner layers toward the top.

              3. If that is unsatisfactory, try explicitly adding an inner support
                ring as part of the model. Don't depend on the slicer to do what
                you want, do it yourself. You would then be bridging to make the
                red disk, but that can work surprisingly well with a good cooling
                fan and printer.


              In all three cases, consider the slot holes you have in the red ring. For case 3 you may need to add a support around those holes as well. In case 2, they would want to be pointed vertically. In case 1, the chamfer would be modified to have holes of cavities matching the slot holes.






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              Three ideas




              1. If either side of the red ring can have a chamfer to meet the cylinder, add the chamfer and print with the chamfer side down.

              2. If both sides of the red ring must be perpendicular to the axis of
                the cylinder, can you print the cylinder lying on its side? You
                might get good enough print quality, especially if printing with
                thinner layers toward the top.

              3. If that is unsatisfactory, try explicitly adding an inner support
                ring as part of the model. Don't depend on the slicer to do what
                you want, do it yourself. You would then be bridging to make the
                red disk, but that can work surprisingly well with a good cooling
                fan and printer.


              In all three cases, consider the slot holes you have in the red ring. For case 3 you may need to add a support around those holes as well. In case 2, they would want to be pointed vertically. In case 1, the chamfer would be modified to have holes of cavities matching the slot holes.







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              • $begingroup$
                Not OP, but can you elaborate on idea 3? Do you mean add a ring under the 2nd orientation and leaving a small gap to the actual model? Wouldn't this just be support that's difficult to pry off? Or do you mean a cylinder at the same height/position as the ring so the entire hole is covered? How would you remove that afterwards?
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              • $begingroup$
                Not OP, but can you elaborate on idea 3? Do you mean add a ring under the 2nd orientation and leaving a small gap to the actual model? Wouldn't this just be support that's difficult to pry off? Or do you mean a cylinder at the same height/position as the ring so the entire hole is covered? How would you remove that afterwards?
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              Not OP, but can you elaborate on idea 3? Do you mean add a ring under the 2nd orientation and leaving a small gap to the actual model? Wouldn't this just be support that's difficult to pry off? Or do you mean a cylinder at the same height/position as the ring so the entire hole is covered? How would you remove that afterwards?
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              $begingroup$
              Not OP, but can you elaborate on idea 3? Do you mean add a ring under the 2nd orientation and leaving a small gap to the actual model? Wouldn't this just be support that's difficult to pry off? Or do you mean a cylinder at the same height/position as the ring so the entire hole is covered? How would you remove that afterwards?
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              Most slicers have extensive settings to control the layout of the support structures, the distance to the overhanging part, line thickness, etc.



              If that doesn't work out for you, you can always change the design to add custom support structures yourself to not having to fiddle with the support settings.






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                $begingroup$

                Most slicers have extensive settings to control the layout of the support structures, the distance to the overhanging part, line thickness, etc.



                If that doesn't work out for you, you can always change the design to add custom support structures yourself to not having to fiddle with the support settings.






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                  Most slicers have extensive settings to control the layout of the support structures, the distance to the overhanging part, line thickness, etc.



                  If that doesn't work out for you, you can always change the design to add custom support structures yourself to not having to fiddle with the support settings.






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                  Most slicers have extensive settings to control the layout of the support structures, the distance to the overhanging part, line thickness, etc.



                  If that doesn't work out for you, you can always change the design to add custom support structures yourself to not having to fiddle with the support settings.







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                      You can print the support as a separate piece, then when the time is right pause the print, insert the support part into the ring and the resume printing. I guess you might have to use PVA glue on the support to ensure that it comes off easily when the time is right, but I'll leave that experimentation up to you. Note: This is going to be very much trial and error on your part.






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                        You can print the support as a separate piece, then when the time is right pause the print, insert the support part into the ring and the resume printing. I guess you might have to use PVA glue on the support to ensure that it comes off easily when the time is right, but I'll leave that experimentation up to you. Note: This is going to be very much trial and error on your part.






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                          You can print the support as a separate piece, then when the time is right pause the print, insert the support part into the ring and the resume printing. I guess you might have to use PVA glue on the support to ensure that it comes off easily when the time is right, but I'll leave that experimentation up to you. Note: This is going to be very much trial and error on your part.






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                          You can print the support as a separate piece, then when the time is right pause the print, insert the support part into the ring and the resume printing. I guess you might have to use PVA glue on the support to ensure that it comes off easily when the time is right, but I'll leave that experimentation up to you. Note: This is going to be very much trial and error on your part.







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