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Is there a minimum field size for peah to apply?
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I know that peah applies to fields of food crops (not other produce) and that halacha is to leave at least 1/60 of the field unharvested for this purpose.
What I haven't found is whether there is a minimum field size for the halacha to apply at all. I think the torah had in mind things like wheat fields, but what about a household vegetable garden? Do we assume that the poor would come and collect 1/60 of even a small field, even if that turns out to be three tomatoes? Is there a size below which we say the requirement does not apply, either for practicality or for some other reason? (On "some other reason": I know that a very small room doesn't get a mezuzah, so the concept of a minimum size might apply to other mitzvot too.)
I know there are different opinions about where/whether peah applies today. I'm not asking about that. I'm asking: if peah applies, does it apply to even small fields, or is there a size threshold?
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I know that peah applies to fields of food crops (not other produce) and that halacha is to leave at least 1/60 of the field unharvested for this purpose.
What I haven't found is whether there is a minimum field size for the halacha to apply at all. I think the torah had in mind things like wheat fields, but what about a household vegetable garden? Do we assume that the poor would come and collect 1/60 of even a small field, even if that turns out to be three tomatoes? Is there a size below which we say the requirement does not apply, either for practicality or for some other reason? (On "some other reason": I know that a very small room doesn't get a mezuzah, so the concept of a minimum size might apply to other mitzvot too.)
I know there are different opinions about where/whether peah applies today. I'm not asking about that. I'm asking: if peah applies, does it apply to even small fields, or is there a size threshold?
halacha shiurim-measurements leket-shichecha-peah
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If no one will bother to come then you don't need to leave it for the birds. But that doesn't fundamentally answer your question.
– Double AA♦
9 hours ago
@DoubleAA I'm thinking that the rabbis might have identified a size below which people won't bother, but maybe you have to determine that empirically (if nobody comes for 3 years in a row or whatever, you can stop doing it). Or maybe they say that there's always a chance someone will come to collect so you need to do it no matter what.
– Monica Cellio♦
8 hours ago
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I know that peah applies to fields of food crops (not other produce) and that halacha is to leave at least 1/60 of the field unharvested for this purpose.
What I haven't found is whether there is a minimum field size for the halacha to apply at all. I think the torah had in mind things like wheat fields, but what about a household vegetable garden? Do we assume that the poor would come and collect 1/60 of even a small field, even if that turns out to be three tomatoes? Is there a size below which we say the requirement does not apply, either for practicality or for some other reason? (On "some other reason": I know that a very small room doesn't get a mezuzah, so the concept of a minimum size might apply to other mitzvot too.)
I know there are different opinions about where/whether peah applies today. I'm not asking about that. I'm asking: if peah applies, does it apply to even small fields, or is there a size threshold?
halacha shiurim-measurements leket-shichecha-peah
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Monica Cellio♦Monica Cellio
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I know that peah applies to fields of food crops (not other produce) and that halacha is to leave at least 1/60 of the field unharvested for this purpose.
What I haven't found is whether there is a minimum field size for the halacha to apply at all. I think the torah had in mind things like wheat fields, but what about a household vegetable garden? Do we assume that the poor would come and collect 1/60 of even a small field, even if that turns out to be three tomatoes? Is there a size below which we say the requirement does not apply, either for practicality or for some other reason? (On "some other reason": I know that a very small room doesn't get a mezuzah, so the concept of a minimum size might apply to other mitzvot too.)
I know there are different opinions about where/whether peah applies today. I'm not asking about that. I'm asking: if peah applies, does it apply to even small fields, or is there a size threshold?
halacha shiurim-measurements leket-shichecha-peah
halacha shiurim-measurements leket-shichecha-peah
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If no one will bother to come then you don't need to leave it for the birds. But that doesn't fundamentally answer your question.
– Double AA♦
9 hours ago
@DoubleAA I'm thinking that the rabbis might have identified a size below which people won't bother, but maybe you have to determine that empirically (if nobody comes for 3 years in a row or whatever, you can stop doing it). Or maybe they say that there's always a chance someone will come to collect so you need to do it no matter what.
– Monica Cellio♦
8 hours ago
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If no one will bother to come then you don't need to leave it for the birds. But that doesn't fundamentally answer your question.
– Double AA♦
9 hours ago
@DoubleAA I'm thinking that the rabbis might have identified a size below which people won't bother, but maybe you have to determine that empirically (if nobody comes for 3 years in a row or whatever, you can stop doing it). Or maybe they say that there's always a chance someone will come to collect so you need to do it no matter what.
– Monica Cellio♦
8 hours ago
If no one will bother to come then you don't need to leave it for the birds. But that doesn't fundamentally answer your question.
– Double AA♦
9 hours ago
If no one will bother to come then you don't need to leave it for the birds. But that doesn't fundamentally answer your question.
– Double AA♦
9 hours ago
@DoubleAA I'm thinking that the rabbis might have identified a size below which people won't bother, but maybe you have to determine that empirically (if nobody comes for 3 years in a row or whatever, you can stop doing it). Or maybe they say that there's always a chance someone will come to collect so you need to do it no matter what.
– Monica Cellio♦
8 hours ago
@DoubleAA I'm thinking that the rabbis might have identified a size below which people won't bother, but maybe you have to determine that empirically (if nobody comes for 3 years in a row or whatever, you can stop doing it). Or maybe they say that there's always a chance someone will come to collect so you need to do it no matter what.
– Monica Cellio♦
8 hours ago
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This is the subject of a debate in Peah 3:6.
The halachah follows R. Akiva’s opinion that there is no minimum size (Rambam Hilchot Matnot Aniyim 2:3).
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This is the subject of a debate in Peah 3:6.
The halachah follows R. Akiva’s opinion that there is no minimum size (Rambam Hilchot Matnot Aniyim 2:3).
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This is the subject of a debate in Peah 3:6.
The halachah follows R. Akiva’s opinion that there is no minimum size (Rambam Hilchot Matnot Aniyim 2:3).
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This is the subject of a debate in Peah 3:6.
The halachah follows R. Akiva’s opinion that there is no minimum size (Rambam Hilchot Matnot Aniyim 2:3).
edited 4 hours ago
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This is the subject of a debate in Peah 3:6.
The halachah follows R. Akiva’s opinion that there is no minimum size (Rambam Hilchot Matnot Aniyim 2:3).
edited 4 hours ago
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If no one will bother to come then you don't need to leave it for the birds. But that doesn't fundamentally answer your question.
– Double AA♦
9 hours ago
@DoubleAA I'm thinking that the rabbis might have identified a size below which people won't bother, but maybe you have to determine that empirically (if nobody comes for 3 years in a row or whatever, you can stop doing it). Or maybe they say that there's always a chance someone will come to collect so you need to do it no matter what.
– Monica Cellio♦
8 hours ago