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Prostitution is referred to as the oldest profession, but the English word "prostitute" is a borrowing that started being used in the English language around 1600. I would like to know what the prostitutes were most commonly called in Britain before.
My question is this: What are the main original English words or short expressions for women who regularly engage in sexual activity for payment?
Please kindly note that my question is not about women who have many casual sexual encounters or relationships just for fun. My question is about making money in this way.
Please also kindly note that my question is not about being financially supported or provided for by a lover. My question is about selling sex to different customers and taking money for individual sex sessions.
Also, my question is not about old words that recently became a slang or euphemistic word for a prostitute, like "escort" or "hooker." I am looking for words that were used as most standard words for a prostitute before the word "prostitute" came into existence in the English language.
Whether a word survived or got extinct is irrelevant. What is important is whether the word was among the most commonly used words for a prostitute before ~1600.
My question is not strictly limited to words of English origin, although my primary interest is about them. At any rate, only those borrowed words qualify that were borrowed well before the word "prostitute" was.
I know the word "wh%re," but my impression is that it is very derogatory, so I especially want to learn nice English words, similar to 遊女 (woman of pleasure), which pay more respect to the oldest profession than "wh%re" does.
I did my own research, but was largely unsuccessful. A very interesting Wikipedia article, entitled "Prostitution in the United Kingdom," says that prostitutes were licensed in Britain as early as 1161, but does not say what the prostitutes were commonly called at that time in everyday communications and in legislative acts. The word "courtesan" was borrowed at about the same time when the word "prostitute" was. Apart from the word "courtesan," the Oxford dictionary lists the following archaic words synonymous to "prostitute":
strumpet, harlot, trollop, wanton, woman of ill repute, lady of pleasure, Cyprian, doxy, drab, quean, trull, wench
Opening the definitions of these words, I did not find much beyond simple statements that the word is an archaic word for a prostitute, so it is unclear which of these words were the most commonly used and what their usage was (i.e., whether it was a legal term, a common neutral word for the profession, a nice or neutral slang word, or a derogatory slang word). Using Google Books Ngram Viewer to check the above words does not seem to be a useful idea, because the time period in question ends about 1600. There might also be extinct words that are not included in the Oxford dictionary but were commonly used in the past.
What I want is to learn what the prostitutes were most commonly called in everyday communications and official documents before 1600, i.e., just a short list of 1-3 words or so with remarks about the usage.
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Prostitution is referred to as the oldest profession, but the English word "prostitute" is a borrowing that started being used in the English language around 1600. I would like to know what the prostitutes were most commonly called in Britain before.
My question is this: What are the main original English words or short expressions for women who regularly engage in sexual activity for payment?
Please kindly note that my question is not about women who have many casual sexual encounters or relationships just for fun. My question is about making money in this way.
Please also kindly note that my question is not about being financially supported or provided for by a lover. My question is about selling sex to different customers and taking money for individual sex sessions.
Also, my question is not about old words that recently became a slang or euphemistic word for a prostitute, like "escort" or "hooker." I am looking for words that were used as most standard words for a prostitute before the word "prostitute" came into existence in the English language.
Whether a word survived or got extinct is irrelevant. What is important is whether the word was among the most commonly used words for a prostitute before ~1600.
My question is not strictly limited to words of English origin, although my primary interest is about them. At any rate, only those borrowed words qualify that were borrowed well before the word "prostitute" was.
I know the word "wh%re," but my impression is that it is very derogatory, so I especially want to learn nice English words, similar to 遊女 (woman of pleasure), which pay more respect to the oldest profession than "wh%re" does.
I did my own research, but was largely unsuccessful. A very interesting Wikipedia article, entitled "Prostitution in the United Kingdom," says that prostitutes were licensed in Britain as early as 1161, but does not say what the prostitutes were commonly called at that time in everyday communications and in legislative acts. The word "courtesan" was borrowed at about the same time when the word "prostitute" was. Apart from the word "courtesan," the Oxford dictionary lists the following archaic words synonymous to "prostitute":
strumpet, harlot, trollop, wanton, woman of ill repute, lady of pleasure, Cyprian, doxy, drab, quean, trull, wench
Opening the definitions of these words, I did not find much beyond simple statements that the word is an archaic word for a prostitute, so it is unclear which of these words were the most commonly used and what their usage was (i.e., whether it was a legal term, a common neutral word for the profession, a nice or neutral slang word, or a derogatory slang word). Using Google Books Ngram Viewer to check the above words does not seem to be a useful idea, because the time period in question ends about 1600. There might also be extinct words that are not included in the Oxford dictionary but were commonly used in the past.
What I want is to learn what the prostitutes were most commonly called in everyday communications and official documents before 1600, i.e., just a short list of 1-3 words or so with remarks about the usage.
single-word-requests phrase-requests history
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I’m afraid whore is probably your best bet for a word that would have been used to describe a prostitute back then. It did not have the same social baggage and derogatory force that it does now – that is to say, describing a prostitute as a whore back then would have been fairly neutral (though of course describing a countess as one would not be, but that’s by dint of the job, not its title). You may find it comforting to know that whore is ultimately cognate with Latin carus and originally meant ‘dear’ or ‘precious’.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
8 hours ago
1
Another archaic term (not listed by Oxford for some reason) is doll; hence the character "Doll Common" in Ben Jonson's The Alchemist.
– Sven Yargs
8 hours ago
the OED has a list of over 30 by date - going back to ~1100. Public libraries have access, unless you have your own membership.
– lbf
8 hours ago
1
@Mitsuko That I don’t know, but I would consider it fairly likely, assuming that they had any actual licences (which I would think is less likely).
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
8 hours ago
1
The Biblical character Rahab is described as a harlot in the King James Bible (as a statement of fact, not an insult).
– Kate Bunting
8 hours ago
|
show 2 more comments
Prostitution is referred to as the oldest profession, but the English word "prostitute" is a borrowing that started being used in the English language around 1600. I would like to know what the prostitutes were most commonly called in Britain before.
My question is this: What are the main original English words or short expressions for women who regularly engage in sexual activity for payment?
Please kindly note that my question is not about women who have many casual sexual encounters or relationships just for fun. My question is about making money in this way.
Please also kindly note that my question is not about being financially supported or provided for by a lover. My question is about selling sex to different customers and taking money for individual sex sessions.
Also, my question is not about old words that recently became a slang or euphemistic word for a prostitute, like "escort" or "hooker." I am looking for words that were used as most standard words for a prostitute before the word "prostitute" came into existence in the English language.
Whether a word survived or got extinct is irrelevant. What is important is whether the word was among the most commonly used words for a prostitute before ~1600.
My question is not strictly limited to words of English origin, although my primary interest is about them. At any rate, only those borrowed words qualify that were borrowed well before the word "prostitute" was.
I know the word "wh%re," but my impression is that it is very derogatory, so I especially want to learn nice English words, similar to 遊女 (woman of pleasure), which pay more respect to the oldest profession than "wh%re" does.
I did my own research, but was largely unsuccessful. A very interesting Wikipedia article, entitled "Prostitution in the United Kingdom," says that prostitutes were licensed in Britain as early as 1161, but does not say what the prostitutes were commonly called at that time in everyday communications and in legislative acts. The word "courtesan" was borrowed at about the same time when the word "prostitute" was. Apart from the word "courtesan," the Oxford dictionary lists the following archaic words synonymous to "prostitute":
strumpet, harlot, trollop, wanton, woman of ill repute, lady of pleasure, Cyprian, doxy, drab, quean, trull, wench
Opening the definitions of these words, I did not find much beyond simple statements that the word is an archaic word for a prostitute, so it is unclear which of these words were the most commonly used and what their usage was (i.e., whether it was a legal term, a common neutral word for the profession, a nice or neutral slang word, or a derogatory slang word). Using Google Books Ngram Viewer to check the above words does not seem to be a useful idea, because the time period in question ends about 1600. There might also be extinct words that are not included in the Oxford dictionary but were commonly used in the past.
What I want is to learn what the prostitutes were most commonly called in everyday communications and official documents before 1600, i.e., just a short list of 1-3 words or so with remarks about the usage.
single-word-requests phrase-requests history
Prostitution is referred to as the oldest profession, but the English word "prostitute" is a borrowing that started being used in the English language around 1600. I would like to know what the prostitutes were most commonly called in Britain before.
My question is this: What are the main original English words or short expressions for women who regularly engage in sexual activity for payment?
Please kindly note that my question is not about women who have many casual sexual encounters or relationships just for fun. My question is about making money in this way.
Please also kindly note that my question is not about being financially supported or provided for by a lover. My question is about selling sex to different customers and taking money for individual sex sessions.
Also, my question is not about old words that recently became a slang or euphemistic word for a prostitute, like "escort" or "hooker." I am looking for words that were used as most standard words for a prostitute before the word "prostitute" came into existence in the English language.
Whether a word survived or got extinct is irrelevant. What is important is whether the word was among the most commonly used words for a prostitute before ~1600.
My question is not strictly limited to words of English origin, although my primary interest is about them. At any rate, only those borrowed words qualify that were borrowed well before the word "prostitute" was.
I know the word "wh%re," but my impression is that it is very derogatory, so I especially want to learn nice English words, similar to 遊女 (woman of pleasure), which pay more respect to the oldest profession than "wh%re" does.
I did my own research, but was largely unsuccessful. A very interesting Wikipedia article, entitled "Prostitution in the United Kingdom," says that prostitutes were licensed in Britain as early as 1161, but does not say what the prostitutes were commonly called at that time in everyday communications and in legislative acts. The word "courtesan" was borrowed at about the same time when the word "prostitute" was. Apart from the word "courtesan," the Oxford dictionary lists the following archaic words synonymous to "prostitute":
strumpet, harlot, trollop, wanton, woman of ill repute, lady of pleasure, Cyprian, doxy, drab, quean, trull, wench
Opening the definitions of these words, I did not find much beyond simple statements that the word is an archaic word for a prostitute, so it is unclear which of these words were the most commonly used and what their usage was (i.e., whether it was a legal term, a common neutral word for the profession, a nice or neutral slang word, or a derogatory slang word). Using Google Books Ngram Viewer to check the above words does not seem to be a useful idea, because the time period in question ends about 1600. There might also be extinct words that are not included in the Oxford dictionary but were commonly used in the past.
What I want is to learn what the prostitutes were most commonly called in everyday communications and official documents before 1600, i.e., just a short list of 1-3 words or so with remarks about the usage.
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I’m afraid whore is probably your best bet for a word that would have been used to describe a prostitute back then. It did not have the same social baggage and derogatory force that it does now – that is to say, describing a prostitute as a whore back then would have been fairly neutral (though of course describing a countess as one would not be, but that’s by dint of the job, not its title). You may find it comforting to know that whore is ultimately cognate with Latin carus and originally meant ‘dear’ or ‘precious’.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
8 hours ago
1
Another archaic term (not listed by Oxford for some reason) is doll; hence the character "Doll Common" in Ben Jonson's The Alchemist.
– Sven Yargs
8 hours ago
the OED has a list of over 30 by date - going back to ~1100. Public libraries have access, unless you have your own membership.
– lbf
8 hours ago
1
@Mitsuko That I don’t know, but I would consider it fairly likely, assuming that they had any actual licences (which I would think is less likely).
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
8 hours ago
1
The Biblical character Rahab is described as a harlot in the King James Bible (as a statement of fact, not an insult).
– Kate Bunting
8 hours ago
|
show 2 more comments
3
I’m afraid whore is probably your best bet for a word that would have been used to describe a prostitute back then. It did not have the same social baggage and derogatory force that it does now – that is to say, describing a prostitute as a whore back then would have been fairly neutral (though of course describing a countess as one would not be, but that’s by dint of the job, not its title). You may find it comforting to know that whore is ultimately cognate with Latin carus and originally meant ‘dear’ or ‘precious’.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
8 hours ago
1
Another archaic term (not listed by Oxford for some reason) is doll; hence the character "Doll Common" in Ben Jonson's The Alchemist.
– Sven Yargs
8 hours ago
the OED has a list of over 30 by date - going back to ~1100. Public libraries have access, unless you have your own membership.
– lbf
8 hours ago
1
@Mitsuko That I don’t know, but I would consider it fairly likely, assuming that they had any actual licences (which I would think is less likely).
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
8 hours ago
1
The Biblical character Rahab is described as a harlot in the King James Bible (as a statement of fact, not an insult).
– Kate Bunting
8 hours ago
3
3
I’m afraid whore is probably your best bet for a word that would have been used to describe a prostitute back then. It did not have the same social baggage and derogatory force that it does now – that is to say, describing a prostitute as a whore back then would have been fairly neutral (though of course describing a countess as one would not be, but that’s by dint of the job, not its title). You may find it comforting to know that whore is ultimately cognate with Latin carus and originally meant ‘dear’ or ‘precious’.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
8 hours ago
I’m afraid whore is probably your best bet for a word that would have been used to describe a prostitute back then. It did not have the same social baggage and derogatory force that it does now – that is to say, describing a prostitute as a whore back then would have been fairly neutral (though of course describing a countess as one would not be, but that’s by dint of the job, not its title). You may find it comforting to know that whore is ultimately cognate with Latin carus and originally meant ‘dear’ or ‘precious’.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
8 hours ago
1
1
Another archaic term (not listed by Oxford for some reason) is doll; hence the character "Doll Common" in Ben Jonson's The Alchemist.
– Sven Yargs
8 hours ago
Another archaic term (not listed by Oxford for some reason) is doll; hence the character "Doll Common" in Ben Jonson's The Alchemist.
– Sven Yargs
8 hours ago
the OED has a list of over 30 by date - going back to ~1100. Public libraries have access, unless you have your own membership.
– lbf
8 hours ago
the OED has a list of over 30 by date - going back to ~1100. Public libraries have access, unless you have your own membership.
– lbf
8 hours ago
1
1
@Mitsuko That I don’t know, but I would consider it fairly likely, assuming that they had any actual licences (which I would think is less likely).
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
8 hours ago
@Mitsuko That I don’t know, but I would consider it fairly likely, assuming that they had any actual licences (which I would think is less likely).
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
8 hours ago
1
1
The Biblical character Rahab is described as a harlot in the King James Bible (as a statement of fact, not an insult).
– Kate Bunting
8 hours ago
The Biblical character Rahab is described as a harlot in the King James Bible (as a statement of fact, not an insult).
– Kate Bunting
8 hours ago
|
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This is a topic for specialists, of whom I am not one. You have obviously done a lot of research yourself.
Forgive the liberty but I have to correct your title and a premiss it contains. You will look for "indigenous English" words in vain and indeed for an indigenous English people. I am sure you know that the Celts probably came across from what is now continental Europe, that later the Romans invaded, bringing with them soldiers and hangers on from all over the Roman empire, after which the Saxons and Vikings, one after another, came and brought with them various teutonic dialects and languages, which gradually evolved into something we call English. Britain has been an island of invaders and immigrants right back into the mists of prehistory.
I suspect that sex working is as old as cities are and no older. I also suspect that for that reason it has cousin professions that are just as old, those made necessary by the existence of cities.
However, I find an article on the history of prostitution in Wkipaedia, which is worth looking at. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_the_United_Kingdom#Medieval_period
It points out, of course, the finds of Roman tokens by the Thames, which may have been admission tokens to brothels. The Romans had their own words for sex-worker: they range in descending order of disrespect: meretrix is a courtesan, understood to have some sort of relationship with the client; lupa means she-wolf; scortum means skin and is a neuter noun.
But then it goes on to the Mediaeval period and the brothels clustered in Southwark in London. And the regulators seem to have been the Bishops. It go on to narrate
1161 a parliament of Henry II introduced regulations allowing the Bishops to license brothels and prostitutes in the area, which became known as the Liberty of the Clink. As a result, brothels multiplied in the Bankside part of the Liberty. They were popularly known as "stew-houses" as many were also steam-filled bath houses.[31] The bishop was their landlord,...
They seem to have been strictly regulated.
Records of court proceedings indicate that priests, monks and friars were among their clients.[32] The brothels had to allow weekly searches by constables or bailiffs, and could not charge prostitutes more than 14 pence per week for a room. Opening was not permitted on holidays, and forced prostitution was prohibited. Prostitutes were not allowed to live at the brothels or to be married, and they were required to spend a full night with their clients.
From this account, I get a variety of words. But most striking is that of Winchester Geese. This is because they seem to have come under the jurisdiction of bishops of Winchester Palace (the bishops of Winchester), who, by the way, profited from this trade.
Geese? Go on...
– Mitch
6 hours ago
@Mitch Why are you surprised? They worked in a ‘flock’, shepherded (ie controlled) by the bishops of Whinchester, who, in a sense, were living on them.
– Tuffy
6 hours ago
I don't often see that particular metaphor between geese and prostitutes. (but anyway, since you are explaining, you might as well add that to your answer)
– Mitch
6 hours ago
Indigenous doesn’t only relate to geography – inherited English words can be said to be indigenous, even if they did not originate in a place where English is now spoken (natively). Also note that your Wikipedia link is the same one as in the question where the year 1161 is mentioned, so Mitsuko has clearly read that article.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
6 hours ago
@JanusBahsJacquet So it is. As for ‘indigenous, I’ll stick with the Cambridge English Dictionary definition: “naturally existing in a place or country rather than arriving from another place”. If we are talking about words belonging to Saxon and its teutonic relatives, you can’t get more Saxon than ‘geese’, though ‘Winchester’ contains the telltale final two syllables, derived from the Roman word for a military camp: Winchester.
– Tuffy
5 hours ago
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This is a topic for specialists, of whom I am not one. You have obviously done a lot of research yourself.
Forgive the liberty but I have to correct your title and a premiss it contains. You will look for "indigenous English" words in vain and indeed for an indigenous English people. I am sure you know that the Celts probably came across from what is now continental Europe, that later the Romans invaded, bringing with them soldiers and hangers on from all over the Roman empire, after which the Saxons and Vikings, one after another, came and brought with them various teutonic dialects and languages, which gradually evolved into something we call English. Britain has been an island of invaders and immigrants right back into the mists of prehistory.
I suspect that sex working is as old as cities are and no older. I also suspect that for that reason it has cousin professions that are just as old, those made necessary by the existence of cities.
However, I find an article on the history of prostitution in Wkipaedia, which is worth looking at. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_the_United_Kingdom#Medieval_period
It points out, of course, the finds of Roman tokens by the Thames, which may have been admission tokens to brothels. The Romans had their own words for sex-worker: they range in descending order of disrespect: meretrix is a courtesan, understood to have some sort of relationship with the client; lupa means she-wolf; scortum means skin and is a neuter noun.
But then it goes on to the Mediaeval period and the brothels clustered in Southwark in London. And the regulators seem to have been the Bishops. It go on to narrate
1161 a parliament of Henry II introduced regulations allowing the Bishops to license brothels and prostitutes in the area, which became known as the Liberty of the Clink. As a result, brothels multiplied in the Bankside part of the Liberty. They were popularly known as "stew-houses" as many were also steam-filled bath houses.[31] The bishop was their landlord,...
They seem to have been strictly regulated.
Records of court proceedings indicate that priests, monks and friars were among their clients.[32] The brothels had to allow weekly searches by constables or bailiffs, and could not charge prostitutes more than 14 pence per week for a room. Opening was not permitted on holidays, and forced prostitution was prohibited. Prostitutes were not allowed to live at the brothels or to be married, and they were required to spend a full night with their clients.
From this account, I get a variety of words. But most striking is that of Winchester Geese. This is because they seem to have come under the jurisdiction of bishops of Winchester Palace (the bishops of Winchester), who, by the way, profited from this trade.
Geese? Go on...
– Mitch
6 hours ago
@Mitch Why are you surprised? They worked in a ‘flock’, shepherded (ie controlled) by the bishops of Whinchester, who, in a sense, were living on them.
– Tuffy
6 hours ago
I don't often see that particular metaphor between geese and prostitutes. (but anyway, since you are explaining, you might as well add that to your answer)
– Mitch
6 hours ago
Indigenous doesn’t only relate to geography – inherited English words can be said to be indigenous, even if they did not originate in a place where English is now spoken (natively). Also note that your Wikipedia link is the same one as in the question where the year 1161 is mentioned, so Mitsuko has clearly read that article.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
6 hours ago
@JanusBahsJacquet So it is. As for ‘indigenous, I’ll stick with the Cambridge English Dictionary definition: “naturally existing in a place or country rather than arriving from another place”. If we are talking about words belonging to Saxon and its teutonic relatives, you can’t get more Saxon than ‘geese’, though ‘Winchester’ contains the telltale final two syllables, derived from the Roman word for a military camp: Winchester.
– Tuffy
5 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
This is a topic for specialists, of whom I am not one. You have obviously done a lot of research yourself.
Forgive the liberty but I have to correct your title and a premiss it contains. You will look for "indigenous English" words in vain and indeed for an indigenous English people. I am sure you know that the Celts probably came across from what is now continental Europe, that later the Romans invaded, bringing with them soldiers and hangers on from all over the Roman empire, after which the Saxons and Vikings, one after another, came and brought with them various teutonic dialects and languages, which gradually evolved into something we call English. Britain has been an island of invaders and immigrants right back into the mists of prehistory.
I suspect that sex working is as old as cities are and no older. I also suspect that for that reason it has cousin professions that are just as old, those made necessary by the existence of cities.
However, I find an article on the history of prostitution in Wkipaedia, which is worth looking at. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_the_United_Kingdom#Medieval_period
It points out, of course, the finds of Roman tokens by the Thames, which may have been admission tokens to brothels. The Romans had their own words for sex-worker: they range in descending order of disrespect: meretrix is a courtesan, understood to have some sort of relationship with the client; lupa means she-wolf; scortum means skin and is a neuter noun.
But then it goes on to the Mediaeval period and the brothels clustered in Southwark in London. And the regulators seem to have been the Bishops. It go on to narrate
1161 a parliament of Henry II introduced regulations allowing the Bishops to license brothels and prostitutes in the area, which became known as the Liberty of the Clink. As a result, brothels multiplied in the Bankside part of the Liberty. They were popularly known as "stew-houses" as many were also steam-filled bath houses.[31] The bishop was their landlord,...
They seem to have been strictly regulated.
Records of court proceedings indicate that priests, monks and friars were among their clients.[32] The brothels had to allow weekly searches by constables or bailiffs, and could not charge prostitutes more than 14 pence per week for a room. Opening was not permitted on holidays, and forced prostitution was prohibited. Prostitutes were not allowed to live at the brothels or to be married, and they were required to spend a full night with their clients.
From this account, I get a variety of words. But most striking is that of Winchester Geese. This is because they seem to have come under the jurisdiction of bishops of Winchester Palace (the bishops of Winchester), who, by the way, profited from this trade.
Geese? Go on...
– Mitch
6 hours ago
@Mitch Why are you surprised? They worked in a ‘flock’, shepherded (ie controlled) by the bishops of Whinchester, who, in a sense, were living on them.
– Tuffy
6 hours ago
I don't often see that particular metaphor between geese and prostitutes. (but anyway, since you are explaining, you might as well add that to your answer)
– Mitch
6 hours ago
Indigenous doesn’t only relate to geography – inherited English words can be said to be indigenous, even if they did not originate in a place where English is now spoken (natively). Also note that your Wikipedia link is the same one as in the question where the year 1161 is mentioned, so Mitsuko has clearly read that article.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
6 hours ago
@JanusBahsJacquet So it is. As for ‘indigenous, I’ll stick with the Cambridge English Dictionary definition: “naturally existing in a place or country rather than arriving from another place”. If we are talking about words belonging to Saxon and its teutonic relatives, you can’t get more Saxon than ‘geese’, though ‘Winchester’ contains the telltale final two syllables, derived from the Roman word for a military camp: Winchester.
– Tuffy
5 hours ago
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This is a topic for specialists, of whom I am not one. You have obviously done a lot of research yourself.
Forgive the liberty but I have to correct your title and a premiss it contains. You will look for "indigenous English" words in vain and indeed for an indigenous English people. I am sure you know that the Celts probably came across from what is now continental Europe, that later the Romans invaded, bringing with them soldiers and hangers on from all over the Roman empire, after which the Saxons and Vikings, one after another, came and brought with them various teutonic dialects and languages, which gradually evolved into something we call English. Britain has been an island of invaders and immigrants right back into the mists of prehistory.
I suspect that sex working is as old as cities are and no older. I also suspect that for that reason it has cousin professions that are just as old, those made necessary by the existence of cities.
However, I find an article on the history of prostitution in Wkipaedia, which is worth looking at. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_the_United_Kingdom#Medieval_period
It points out, of course, the finds of Roman tokens by the Thames, which may have been admission tokens to brothels. The Romans had their own words for sex-worker: they range in descending order of disrespect: meretrix is a courtesan, understood to have some sort of relationship with the client; lupa means she-wolf; scortum means skin and is a neuter noun.
But then it goes on to the Mediaeval period and the brothels clustered in Southwark in London. And the regulators seem to have been the Bishops. It go on to narrate
1161 a parliament of Henry II introduced regulations allowing the Bishops to license brothels and prostitutes in the area, which became known as the Liberty of the Clink. As a result, brothels multiplied in the Bankside part of the Liberty. They were popularly known as "stew-houses" as many were also steam-filled bath houses.[31] The bishop was their landlord,...
They seem to have been strictly regulated.
Records of court proceedings indicate that priests, monks and friars were among their clients.[32] The brothels had to allow weekly searches by constables or bailiffs, and could not charge prostitutes more than 14 pence per week for a room. Opening was not permitted on holidays, and forced prostitution was prohibited. Prostitutes were not allowed to live at the brothels or to be married, and they were required to spend a full night with their clients.
From this account, I get a variety of words. But most striking is that of Winchester Geese. This is because they seem to have come under the jurisdiction of bishops of Winchester Palace (the bishops of Winchester), who, by the way, profited from this trade.
This is a topic for specialists, of whom I am not one. You have obviously done a lot of research yourself.
Forgive the liberty but I have to correct your title and a premiss it contains. You will look for "indigenous English" words in vain and indeed for an indigenous English people. I am sure you know that the Celts probably came across from what is now continental Europe, that later the Romans invaded, bringing with them soldiers and hangers on from all over the Roman empire, after which the Saxons and Vikings, one after another, came and brought with them various teutonic dialects and languages, which gradually evolved into something we call English. Britain has been an island of invaders and immigrants right back into the mists of prehistory.
I suspect that sex working is as old as cities are and no older. I also suspect that for that reason it has cousin professions that are just as old, those made necessary by the existence of cities.
However, I find an article on the history of prostitution in Wkipaedia, which is worth looking at. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_the_United_Kingdom#Medieval_period
It points out, of course, the finds of Roman tokens by the Thames, which may have been admission tokens to brothels. The Romans had their own words for sex-worker: they range in descending order of disrespect: meretrix is a courtesan, understood to have some sort of relationship with the client; lupa means she-wolf; scortum means skin and is a neuter noun.
But then it goes on to the Mediaeval period and the brothels clustered in Southwark in London. And the regulators seem to have been the Bishops. It go on to narrate
1161 a parliament of Henry II introduced regulations allowing the Bishops to license brothels and prostitutes in the area, which became known as the Liberty of the Clink. As a result, brothels multiplied in the Bankside part of the Liberty. They were popularly known as "stew-houses" as many were also steam-filled bath houses.[31] The bishop was their landlord,...
They seem to have been strictly regulated.
Records of court proceedings indicate that priests, monks and friars were among their clients.[32] The brothels had to allow weekly searches by constables or bailiffs, and could not charge prostitutes more than 14 pence per week for a room. Opening was not permitted on holidays, and forced prostitution was prohibited. Prostitutes were not allowed to live at the brothels or to be married, and they were required to spend a full night with their clients.
From this account, I get a variety of words. But most striking is that of Winchester Geese. This is because they seem to have come under the jurisdiction of bishops of Winchester Palace (the bishops of Winchester), who, by the way, profited from this trade.
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Geese? Go on...
– Mitch
6 hours ago
@Mitch Why are you surprised? They worked in a ‘flock’, shepherded (ie controlled) by the bishops of Whinchester, who, in a sense, were living on them.
– Tuffy
6 hours ago
I don't often see that particular metaphor between geese and prostitutes. (but anyway, since you are explaining, you might as well add that to your answer)
– Mitch
6 hours ago
Indigenous doesn’t only relate to geography – inherited English words can be said to be indigenous, even if they did not originate in a place where English is now spoken (natively). Also note that your Wikipedia link is the same one as in the question where the year 1161 is mentioned, so Mitsuko has clearly read that article.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
6 hours ago
@JanusBahsJacquet So it is. As for ‘indigenous, I’ll stick with the Cambridge English Dictionary definition: “naturally existing in a place or country rather than arriving from another place”. If we are talking about words belonging to Saxon and its teutonic relatives, you can’t get more Saxon than ‘geese’, though ‘Winchester’ contains the telltale final two syllables, derived from the Roman word for a military camp: Winchester.
– Tuffy
5 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
Geese? Go on...
– Mitch
6 hours ago
@Mitch Why are you surprised? They worked in a ‘flock’, shepherded (ie controlled) by the bishops of Whinchester, who, in a sense, were living on them.
– Tuffy
6 hours ago
I don't often see that particular metaphor between geese and prostitutes. (but anyway, since you are explaining, you might as well add that to your answer)
– Mitch
6 hours ago
Indigenous doesn’t only relate to geography – inherited English words can be said to be indigenous, even if they did not originate in a place where English is now spoken (natively). Also note that your Wikipedia link is the same one as in the question where the year 1161 is mentioned, so Mitsuko has clearly read that article.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
6 hours ago
@JanusBahsJacquet So it is. As for ‘indigenous, I’ll stick with the Cambridge English Dictionary definition: “naturally existing in a place or country rather than arriving from another place”. If we are talking about words belonging to Saxon and its teutonic relatives, you can’t get more Saxon than ‘geese’, though ‘Winchester’ contains the telltale final two syllables, derived from the Roman word for a military camp: Winchester.
– Tuffy
5 hours ago
Geese? Go on...
– Mitch
6 hours ago
Geese? Go on...
– Mitch
6 hours ago
@Mitch Why are you surprised? They worked in a ‘flock’, shepherded (ie controlled) by the bishops of Whinchester, who, in a sense, were living on them.
– Tuffy
6 hours ago
@Mitch Why are you surprised? They worked in a ‘flock’, shepherded (ie controlled) by the bishops of Whinchester, who, in a sense, were living on them.
– Tuffy
6 hours ago
I don't often see that particular metaphor between geese and prostitutes. (but anyway, since you are explaining, you might as well add that to your answer)
– Mitch
6 hours ago
I don't often see that particular metaphor between geese and prostitutes. (but anyway, since you are explaining, you might as well add that to your answer)
– Mitch
6 hours ago
Indigenous doesn’t only relate to geography – inherited English words can be said to be indigenous, even if they did not originate in a place where English is now spoken (natively). Also note that your Wikipedia link is the same one as in the question where the year 1161 is mentioned, so Mitsuko has clearly read that article.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
6 hours ago
Indigenous doesn’t only relate to geography – inherited English words can be said to be indigenous, even if they did not originate in a place where English is now spoken (natively). Also note that your Wikipedia link is the same one as in the question where the year 1161 is mentioned, so Mitsuko has clearly read that article.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
6 hours ago
@JanusBahsJacquet So it is. As for ‘indigenous, I’ll stick with the Cambridge English Dictionary definition: “naturally existing in a place or country rather than arriving from another place”. If we are talking about words belonging to Saxon and its teutonic relatives, you can’t get more Saxon than ‘geese’, though ‘Winchester’ contains the telltale final two syllables, derived from the Roman word for a military camp: Winchester.
– Tuffy
5 hours ago
@JanusBahsJacquet So it is. As for ‘indigenous, I’ll stick with the Cambridge English Dictionary definition: “naturally existing in a place or country rather than arriving from another place”. If we are talking about words belonging to Saxon and its teutonic relatives, you can’t get more Saxon than ‘geese’, though ‘Winchester’ contains the telltale final two syllables, derived from the Roman word for a military camp: Winchester.
– Tuffy
5 hours ago
|
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I’m afraid whore is probably your best bet for a word that would have been used to describe a prostitute back then. It did not have the same social baggage and derogatory force that it does now – that is to say, describing a prostitute as a whore back then would have been fairly neutral (though of course describing a countess as one would not be, but that’s by dint of the job, not its title). You may find it comforting to know that whore is ultimately cognate with Latin carus and originally meant ‘dear’ or ‘precious’.
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
8 hours ago
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Another archaic term (not listed by Oxford for some reason) is doll; hence the character "Doll Common" in Ben Jonson's The Alchemist.
– Sven Yargs
8 hours ago
the OED has a list of over 30 by date - going back to ~1100. Public libraries have access, unless you have your own membership.
– lbf
8 hours ago
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@Mitsuko That I don’t know, but I would consider it fairly likely, assuming that they had any actual licences (which I would think is less likely).
– Janus Bahs Jacquet
8 hours ago
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The Biblical character Rahab is described as a harlot in the King James Bible (as a statement of fact, not an insult).
– Kate Bunting
8 hours ago