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I promise this isn't click bait, but no I'm not a satanist. I recently bought a phone case with the anti-possession star from the TV show Supernatural printed on it. It's a personal phone, but it's on my desk all day so I can see if I get a notification. Sometimes I chat with friends, but I also get work calls/texts on it too.
A co-worker of mine who I don't know too well walked past yesterday and apparently saw it. Today I heard her speaking to another colleague that I don't know too well saying she reported it to HR and I could tell she was 100% serious. The other colleague acted like she didn't care and just wanted to end the conversation. However, the woman that reported me specifically said that I think he might be into "satan worship", that's happening a lot more recently.
Seriously? I was shocked. A random meeting popped up on my calendar today. All it says is HR Meeting, with two people from HR included on it. Can I be fired for this?
Update:
So I was told by HR that my phone case is completely unacceptable, even though I don't have a customer facing position (I'm a software engineer). They also told me that this is a Christian company and Satanism isn't protected by religious discrimination laws because they're "evil".
This was a Twilight Zone experience. It was surreal. They escorted me out of the building and I'm now jobless. There was literally no indication that this was a "Christian company". They're not overt about it at all and I've worked here for over a year. I plan to talk to a lawyer.
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I promise this isn't click bait, but no I'm not a satanist. I recently bought a phone case with the anti-possession star from the TV show Supernatural printed on it. It's a personal phone, but it's on my desk all day so I can see if I get a notification. Sometimes I chat with friends, but I also get work calls/texts on it too.
A co-worker of mine who I don't know too well walked past yesterday and apparently saw it. Today I heard her speaking to another colleague that I don't know too well saying she reported it to HR and I could tell she was 100% serious. The other colleague acted like she didn't care and just wanted to end the conversation. However, the woman that reported me specifically said that I think he might be into "satan worship", that's happening a lot more recently.
Seriously? I was shocked. A random meeting popped up on my calendar today. All it says is HR Meeting, with two people from HR included on it. Can I be fired for this?
Update:
So I was told by HR that my phone case is completely unacceptable, even though I don't have a customer facing position (I'm a software engineer). They also told me that this is a Christian company and Satanism isn't protected by religious discrimination laws because they're "evil".
This was a Twilight Zone experience. It was surreal. They escorted me out of the building and I'm now jobless. There was literally no indication that this was a "Christian company". They're not overt about it at all and I've worked here for over a year. I plan to talk to a lawyer.
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What comedy club is this?
– Atizs
12 hours ago
5
As your questions was can you be fired, this is a bit of an aside. If you have a good HR department, the meeting should focus on the coworker who reported you and their actions. I would bring up how they are talking about you to other coworkers accusing you of false things and how it makes you feel uncomfortable. If HR is on this lady's side I would look for a new job.
– Whitney
11 hours ago
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@JimClay Your comments are insulting and useless for improving the question, please stop it! Btw who chose you to decide what's allowed on a desk?
– Chris
10 hours ago
4
@DaveG: I'm pretty sure a good lawyer could argue that firing someone simply for being perceived as a Satanist is illegal.
– jwodder
8 hours ago
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Lawyer up, OP. Firing you for this is completely, unequivocally illegal. Right-to-work state or not.
– DetectivePikachu
7 hours ago
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I promise this isn't click bait, but no I'm not a satanist. I recently bought a phone case with the anti-possession star from the TV show Supernatural printed on it. It's a personal phone, but it's on my desk all day so I can see if I get a notification. Sometimes I chat with friends, but I also get work calls/texts on it too.
A co-worker of mine who I don't know too well walked past yesterday and apparently saw it. Today I heard her speaking to another colleague that I don't know too well saying she reported it to HR and I could tell she was 100% serious. The other colleague acted like she didn't care and just wanted to end the conversation. However, the woman that reported me specifically said that I think he might be into "satan worship", that's happening a lot more recently.
Seriously? I was shocked. A random meeting popped up on my calendar today. All it says is HR Meeting, with two people from HR included on it. Can I be fired for this?
Update:
So I was told by HR that my phone case is completely unacceptable, even though I don't have a customer facing position (I'm a software engineer). They also told me that this is a Christian company and Satanism isn't protected by religious discrimination laws because they're "evil".
This was a Twilight Zone experience. It was surreal. They escorted me out of the building and I'm now jobless. There was literally no indication that this was a "Christian company". They're not overt about it at all and I've worked here for over a year. I plan to talk to a lawyer.
united-states human-resources discrimination religion
I promise this isn't click bait, but no I'm not a satanist. I recently bought a phone case with the anti-possession star from the TV show Supernatural printed on it. It's a personal phone, but it's on my desk all day so I can see if I get a notification. Sometimes I chat with friends, but I also get work calls/texts on it too.
A co-worker of mine who I don't know too well walked past yesterday and apparently saw it. Today I heard her speaking to another colleague that I don't know too well saying she reported it to HR and I could tell she was 100% serious. The other colleague acted like she didn't care and just wanted to end the conversation. However, the woman that reported me specifically said that I think he might be into "satan worship", that's happening a lot more recently.
Seriously? I was shocked. A random meeting popped up on my calendar today. All it says is HR Meeting, with two people from HR included on it. Can I be fired for this?
Update:
So I was told by HR that my phone case is completely unacceptable, even though I don't have a customer facing position (I'm a software engineer). They also told me that this is a Christian company and Satanism isn't protected by religious discrimination laws because they're "evil".
This was a Twilight Zone experience. It was surreal. They escorted me out of the building and I'm now jobless. There was literally no indication that this was a "Christian company". They're not overt about it at all and I've worked here for over a year. I plan to talk to a lawyer.
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What comedy club is this?
– Atizs
12 hours ago
5
As your questions was can you be fired, this is a bit of an aside. If you have a good HR department, the meeting should focus on the coworker who reported you and their actions. I would bring up how they are talking about you to other coworkers accusing you of false things and how it makes you feel uncomfortable. If HR is on this lady's side I would look for a new job.
– Whitney
11 hours ago
13
@JimClay Your comments are insulting and useless for improving the question, please stop it! Btw who chose you to decide what's allowed on a desk?
– Chris
10 hours ago
4
@DaveG: I'm pretty sure a good lawyer could argue that firing someone simply for being perceived as a Satanist is illegal.
– jwodder
8 hours ago
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Lawyer up, OP. Firing you for this is completely, unequivocally illegal. Right-to-work state or not.
– DetectivePikachu
7 hours ago
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What comedy club is this?
– Atizs
12 hours ago
5
As your questions was can you be fired, this is a bit of an aside. If you have a good HR department, the meeting should focus on the coworker who reported you and their actions. I would bring up how they are talking about you to other coworkers accusing you of false things and how it makes you feel uncomfortable. If HR is on this lady's side I would look for a new job.
– Whitney
11 hours ago
13
@JimClay Your comments are insulting and useless for improving the question, please stop it! Btw who chose you to decide what's allowed on a desk?
– Chris
10 hours ago
4
@DaveG: I'm pretty sure a good lawyer could argue that firing someone simply for being perceived as a Satanist is illegal.
– jwodder
8 hours ago
9
Lawyer up, OP. Firing you for this is completely, unequivocally illegal. Right-to-work state or not.
– DetectivePikachu
7 hours ago
9
9
What comedy club is this?
– Atizs
12 hours ago
What comedy club is this?
– Atizs
12 hours ago
5
5
As your questions was can you be fired, this is a bit of an aside. If you have a good HR department, the meeting should focus on the coworker who reported you and their actions. I would bring up how they are talking about you to other coworkers accusing you of false things and how it makes you feel uncomfortable. If HR is on this lady's side I would look for a new job.
– Whitney
11 hours ago
As your questions was can you be fired, this is a bit of an aside. If you have a good HR department, the meeting should focus on the coworker who reported you and their actions. I would bring up how they are talking about you to other coworkers accusing you of false things and how it makes you feel uncomfortable. If HR is on this lady's side I would look for a new job.
– Whitney
11 hours ago
13
13
@JimClay Your comments are insulting and useless for improving the question, please stop it! Btw who chose you to decide what's allowed on a desk?
– Chris
10 hours ago
@JimClay Your comments are insulting and useless for improving the question, please stop it! Btw who chose you to decide what's allowed on a desk?
– Chris
10 hours ago
4
4
@DaveG: I'm pretty sure a good lawyer could argue that firing someone simply for being perceived as a Satanist is illegal.
– jwodder
8 hours ago
@DaveG: I'm pretty sure a good lawyer could argue that firing someone simply for being perceived as a Satanist is illegal.
– jwodder
8 hours ago
9
9
Lawyer up, OP. Firing you for this is completely, unequivocally illegal. Right-to-work state or not.
– DetectivePikachu
7 hours ago
Lawyer up, OP. Firing you for this is completely, unequivocally illegal. Right-to-work state or not.
– DetectivePikachu
7 hours ago
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It would be illegal to fire (or otherwise discriminate against) you for supposed Satanic worship or displaying other religious iconography. According to the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 would protect you against unfair treatment due to perceived religious beliefs.
Religious Discrimination & Work Situations
The law forbids discrimination when it comes to any aspect of employment, including hiring, firing, pay, job assignments, promotions, layoff, training, fringe benefits, and any other term or condition of employment.
Religious Discrimination & Harassment
It is illegal to harass a person because of his or her religion.
"Reporting" you to HR for a religious practice would count as harassment under this definition.
Do keep in mind that Satanism is rather controversial in many parts of the US, so displaying occult symbols could make co-workers uncomfortable, legality aside. If the employer or HR has religious biases, they could potentially fabricate some other reason for termination.
1
It's worth noting that once he tells them this isn't a religion, they might have a case for firing him (if he lives somewhere with at-will employment).
– Omegastick
9 hours ago
"Displaying a symbol that makes someone uncomfortable" is going to be one of those things that HR will probably ask you not to do, once they have established it's not a real religious symbol.
– DJClayworth
8 hours ago
3
"displaying occult symbols could make co-workers uncomfortable" - some of us feel that way about crosses and such too ...
– ivanivan
4 hours ago
add a comment |
I expect this will probably get cleared up once you explain the misunderstanding at HR - however if they don't believe you then they can't fire you for it (religion is a protected characteristic in the US) so they can't fire you for being a "satan worshipper", of course ironically they can fire you for being a Supernatural fan (assuming you are in an at-will state that is).
There's no cast-iron guarantees here unfortunately - I've heard some pretty wacky reasons for people getting fired over the years but on the balance of probabilities, and assuming your HR dept is entirely staffed by hysterical idjits I think you'll be fine.
I dare you to you to end the HR meeting with We've got work to do! (although I advise against shouting "Hey Assbutt!" at the co-worker who reported you, that might get you in trouble)
PS: Don't think I didn't notice the reference in the username btw.
However, in this case the OP is saying he is NOT a "satan worshipper" which would seem to make him eligible for firing.
– DaveG
8 hours ago
@DaveG, if it were a particularly conservative workplace with a high-profile public-facing job role, that might be the case. But otherwise, if the OP is in good standing and it was spun as an honest and reversible lapse of judgment-- very unlikely. I guess we'll find out if the OP reports back.
– teego1967
8 hours ago
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You have been discriminated against on religious grounds.
Of course you are not a Satanist. However, you are a practicing and devout member of a religion whose tenets include the possibility of demonic possession. You have been taught by your church to fear demonic possession.
The symbol that you carry is not a Satanic symbol; if anything it is an anti-Satanic symbol. It is in fact a well-known device for warding off and preventing demonic possession.
You carry this symbol as part of expressing your religious identity. To be forbidden to display this symbol is a clear infringement of your civil rights. To be fired for displaying a symbolic evidence of your religious preference is a clear violation of black-letter law that Americans currently take very very seriously.
Even if you had not been fired, depriving you of the opportunity to wear this symbol would have placed your soul in mortal danger.
Etc. etc. There's more than enough here for an employment compliance law specialist to work with.
Some might say it would have been better to avoid this adversarial situation in the first place, but how were you to know that the symbol would be so misinterpreted by certain ignorant heathens? It was your employer who assumed the adversarial position, not you. You weren't even given a chance to explain.
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I'm pretty sure that misrepresenting one's religious beliefs in order to pursue a lawsuit constitutes fraud. There's plenty to work with here without lying.
– Russell Borogove
3 hours ago
@Russell Borogove: That's why I asked if OP is a Christian. Most Christian denominations believe in demonic possession, and prescribe methods for dealing with it, including an exorcism sacrament.
– A. I. Breveleri
1 hour ago
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It would be illegal to fire (or otherwise discriminate against) you for supposed Satanic worship or displaying other religious iconography. According to the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 would protect you against unfair treatment due to perceived religious beliefs.
Religious Discrimination & Work Situations
The law forbids discrimination when it comes to any aspect of employment, including hiring, firing, pay, job assignments, promotions, layoff, training, fringe benefits, and any other term or condition of employment.
Religious Discrimination & Harassment
It is illegal to harass a person because of his or her religion.
"Reporting" you to HR for a religious practice would count as harassment under this definition.
Do keep in mind that Satanism is rather controversial in many parts of the US, so displaying occult symbols could make co-workers uncomfortable, legality aside. If the employer or HR has religious biases, they could potentially fabricate some other reason for termination.
1
It's worth noting that once he tells them this isn't a religion, they might have a case for firing him (if he lives somewhere with at-will employment).
– Omegastick
9 hours ago
"Displaying a symbol that makes someone uncomfortable" is going to be one of those things that HR will probably ask you not to do, once they have established it's not a real religious symbol.
– DJClayworth
8 hours ago
3
"displaying occult symbols could make co-workers uncomfortable" - some of us feel that way about crosses and such too ...
– ivanivan
4 hours ago
add a comment |
It would be illegal to fire (or otherwise discriminate against) you for supposed Satanic worship or displaying other religious iconography. According to the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 would protect you against unfair treatment due to perceived religious beliefs.
Religious Discrimination & Work Situations
The law forbids discrimination when it comes to any aspect of employment, including hiring, firing, pay, job assignments, promotions, layoff, training, fringe benefits, and any other term or condition of employment.
Religious Discrimination & Harassment
It is illegal to harass a person because of his or her religion.
"Reporting" you to HR for a religious practice would count as harassment under this definition.
Do keep in mind that Satanism is rather controversial in many parts of the US, so displaying occult symbols could make co-workers uncomfortable, legality aside. If the employer or HR has religious biases, they could potentially fabricate some other reason for termination.
1
It's worth noting that once he tells them this isn't a religion, they might have a case for firing him (if he lives somewhere with at-will employment).
– Omegastick
9 hours ago
"Displaying a symbol that makes someone uncomfortable" is going to be one of those things that HR will probably ask you not to do, once they have established it's not a real religious symbol.
– DJClayworth
8 hours ago
3
"displaying occult symbols could make co-workers uncomfortable" - some of us feel that way about crosses and such too ...
– ivanivan
4 hours ago
add a comment |
It would be illegal to fire (or otherwise discriminate against) you for supposed Satanic worship or displaying other religious iconography. According to the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 would protect you against unfair treatment due to perceived religious beliefs.
Religious Discrimination & Work Situations
The law forbids discrimination when it comes to any aspect of employment, including hiring, firing, pay, job assignments, promotions, layoff, training, fringe benefits, and any other term or condition of employment.
Religious Discrimination & Harassment
It is illegal to harass a person because of his or her religion.
"Reporting" you to HR for a religious practice would count as harassment under this definition.
Do keep in mind that Satanism is rather controversial in many parts of the US, so displaying occult symbols could make co-workers uncomfortable, legality aside. If the employer or HR has religious biases, they could potentially fabricate some other reason for termination.
It would be illegal to fire (or otherwise discriminate against) you for supposed Satanic worship or displaying other religious iconography. According to the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 would protect you against unfair treatment due to perceived religious beliefs.
Religious Discrimination & Work Situations
The law forbids discrimination when it comes to any aspect of employment, including hiring, firing, pay, job assignments, promotions, layoff, training, fringe benefits, and any other term or condition of employment.
Religious Discrimination & Harassment
It is illegal to harass a person because of his or her religion.
"Reporting" you to HR for a religious practice would count as harassment under this definition.
Do keep in mind that Satanism is rather controversial in many parts of the US, so displaying occult symbols could make co-workers uncomfortable, legality aside. If the employer or HR has religious biases, they could potentially fabricate some other reason for termination.
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It's worth noting that once he tells them this isn't a religion, they might have a case for firing him (if he lives somewhere with at-will employment).
– Omegastick
9 hours ago
"Displaying a symbol that makes someone uncomfortable" is going to be one of those things that HR will probably ask you not to do, once they have established it's not a real religious symbol.
– DJClayworth
8 hours ago
3
"displaying occult symbols could make co-workers uncomfortable" - some of us feel that way about crosses and such too ...
– ivanivan
4 hours ago
add a comment |
1
It's worth noting that once he tells them this isn't a religion, they might have a case for firing him (if he lives somewhere with at-will employment).
– Omegastick
9 hours ago
"Displaying a symbol that makes someone uncomfortable" is going to be one of those things that HR will probably ask you not to do, once they have established it's not a real religious symbol.
– DJClayworth
8 hours ago
3
"displaying occult symbols could make co-workers uncomfortable" - some of us feel that way about crosses and such too ...
– ivanivan
4 hours ago
1
1
It's worth noting that once he tells them this isn't a religion, they might have a case for firing him (if he lives somewhere with at-will employment).
– Omegastick
9 hours ago
It's worth noting that once he tells them this isn't a religion, they might have a case for firing him (if he lives somewhere with at-will employment).
– Omegastick
9 hours ago
"Displaying a symbol that makes someone uncomfortable" is going to be one of those things that HR will probably ask you not to do, once they have established it's not a real religious symbol.
– DJClayworth
8 hours ago
"Displaying a symbol that makes someone uncomfortable" is going to be one of those things that HR will probably ask you not to do, once they have established it's not a real religious symbol.
– DJClayworth
8 hours ago
3
3
"displaying occult symbols could make co-workers uncomfortable" - some of us feel that way about crosses and such too ...
– ivanivan
4 hours ago
"displaying occult symbols could make co-workers uncomfortable" - some of us feel that way about crosses and such too ...
– ivanivan
4 hours ago
add a comment |
I expect this will probably get cleared up once you explain the misunderstanding at HR - however if they don't believe you then they can't fire you for it (religion is a protected characteristic in the US) so they can't fire you for being a "satan worshipper", of course ironically they can fire you for being a Supernatural fan (assuming you are in an at-will state that is).
There's no cast-iron guarantees here unfortunately - I've heard some pretty wacky reasons for people getting fired over the years but on the balance of probabilities, and assuming your HR dept is entirely staffed by hysterical idjits I think you'll be fine.
I dare you to you to end the HR meeting with We've got work to do! (although I advise against shouting "Hey Assbutt!" at the co-worker who reported you, that might get you in trouble)
PS: Don't think I didn't notice the reference in the username btw.
However, in this case the OP is saying he is NOT a "satan worshipper" which would seem to make him eligible for firing.
– DaveG
8 hours ago
@DaveG, if it were a particularly conservative workplace with a high-profile public-facing job role, that might be the case. But otherwise, if the OP is in good standing and it was spun as an honest and reversible lapse of judgment-- very unlikely. I guess we'll find out if the OP reports back.
– teego1967
8 hours ago
add a comment |
I expect this will probably get cleared up once you explain the misunderstanding at HR - however if they don't believe you then they can't fire you for it (religion is a protected characteristic in the US) so they can't fire you for being a "satan worshipper", of course ironically they can fire you for being a Supernatural fan (assuming you are in an at-will state that is).
There's no cast-iron guarantees here unfortunately - I've heard some pretty wacky reasons for people getting fired over the years but on the balance of probabilities, and assuming your HR dept is entirely staffed by hysterical idjits I think you'll be fine.
I dare you to you to end the HR meeting with We've got work to do! (although I advise against shouting "Hey Assbutt!" at the co-worker who reported you, that might get you in trouble)
PS: Don't think I didn't notice the reference in the username btw.
However, in this case the OP is saying he is NOT a "satan worshipper" which would seem to make him eligible for firing.
– DaveG
8 hours ago
@DaveG, if it were a particularly conservative workplace with a high-profile public-facing job role, that might be the case. But otherwise, if the OP is in good standing and it was spun as an honest and reversible lapse of judgment-- very unlikely. I guess we'll find out if the OP reports back.
– teego1967
8 hours ago
add a comment |
I expect this will probably get cleared up once you explain the misunderstanding at HR - however if they don't believe you then they can't fire you for it (religion is a protected characteristic in the US) so they can't fire you for being a "satan worshipper", of course ironically they can fire you for being a Supernatural fan (assuming you are in an at-will state that is).
There's no cast-iron guarantees here unfortunately - I've heard some pretty wacky reasons for people getting fired over the years but on the balance of probabilities, and assuming your HR dept is entirely staffed by hysterical idjits I think you'll be fine.
I dare you to you to end the HR meeting with We've got work to do! (although I advise against shouting "Hey Assbutt!" at the co-worker who reported you, that might get you in trouble)
PS: Don't think I didn't notice the reference in the username btw.
I expect this will probably get cleared up once you explain the misunderstanding at HR - however if they don't believe you then they can't fire you for it (religion is a protected characteristic in the US) so they can't fire you for being a "satan worshipper", of course ironically they can fire you for being a Supernatural fan (assuming you are in an at-will state that is).
There's no cast-iron guarantees here unfortunately - I've heard some pretty wacky reasons for people getting fired over the years but on the balance of probabilities, and assuming your HR dept is entirely staffed by hysterical idjits I think you'll be fine.
I dare you to you to end the HR meeting with We've got work to do! (although I advise against shouting "Hey Assbutt!" at the co-worker who reported you, that might get you in trouble)
PS: Don't think I didn't notice the reference in the username btw.
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However, in this case the OP is saying he is NOT a "satan worshipper" which would seem to make him eligible for firing.
– DaveG
8 hours ago
@DaveG, if it were a particularly conservative workplace with a high-profile public-facing job role, that might be the case. But otherwise, if the OP is in good standing and it was spun as an honest and reversible lapse of judgment-- very unlikely. I guess we'll find out if the OP reports back.
– teego1967
8 hours ago
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However, in this case the OP is saying he is NOT a "satan worshipper" which would seem to make him eligible for firing.
– DaveG
8 hours ago
@DaveG, if it were a particularly conservative workplace with a high-profile public-facing job role, that might be the case. But otherwise, if the OP is in good standing and it was spun as an honest and reversible lapse of judgment-- very unlikely. I guess we'll find out if the OP reports back.
– teego1967
8 hours ago
However, in this case the OP is saying he is NOT a "satan worshipper" which would seem to make him eligible for firing.
– DaveG
8 hours ago
However, in this case the OP is saying he is NOT a "satan worshipper" which would seem to make him eligible for firing.
– DaveG
8 hours ago
@DaveG, if it were a particularly conservative workplace with a high-profile public-facing job role, that might be the case. But otherwise, if the OP is in good standing and it was spun as an honest and reversible lapse of judgment-- very unlikely. I guess we'll find out if the OP reports back.
– teego1967
8 hours ago
@DaveG, if it were a particularly conservative workplace with a high-profile public-facing job role, that might be the case. But otherwise, if the OP is in good standing and it was spun as an honest and reversible lapse of judgment-- very unlikely. I guess we'll find out if the OP reports back.
– teego1967
8 hours ago
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You have been discriminated against on religious grounds.
Of course you are not a Satanist. However, you are a practicing and devout member of a religion whose tenets include the possibility of demonic possession. You have been taught by your church to fear demonic possession.
The symbol that you carry is not a Satanic symbol; if anything it is an anti-Satanic symbol. It is in fact a well-known device for warding off and preventing demonic possession.
You carry this symbol as part of expressing your religious identity. To be forbidden to display this symbol is a clear infringement of your civil rights. To be fired for displaying a symbolic evidence of your religious preference is a clear violation of black-letter law that Americans currently take very very seriously.
Even if you had not been fired, depriving you of the opportunity to wear this symbol would have placed your soul in mortal danger.
Etc. etc. There's more than enough here for an employment compliance law specialist to work with.
Some might say it would have been better to avoid this adversarial situation in the first place, but how were you to know that the symbol would be so misinterpreted by certain ignorant heathens? It was your employer who assumed the adversarial position, not you. You weren't even given a chance to explain.
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I'm pretty sure that misrepresenting one's religious beliefs in order to pursue a lawsuit constitutes fraud. There's plenty to work with here without lying.
– Russell Borogove
3 hours ago
@Russell Borogove: That's why I asked if OP is a Christian. Most Christian denominations believe in demonic possession, and prescribe methods for dealing with it, including an exorcism sacrament.
– A. I. Breveleri
1 hour ago
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You have been discriminated against on religious grounds.
Of course you are not a Satanist. However, you are a practicing and devout member of a religion whose tenets include the possibility of demonic possession. You have been taught by your church to fear demonic possession.
The symbol that you carry is not a Satanic symbol; if anything it is an anti-Satanic symbol. It is in fact a well-known device for warding off and preventing demonic possession.
You carry this symbol as part of expressing your religious identity. To be forbidden to display this symbol is a clear infringement of your civil rights. To be fired for displaying a symbolic evidence of your religious preference is a clear violation of black-letter law that Americans currently take very very seriously.
Even if you had not been fired, depriving you of the opportunity to wear this symbol would have placed your soul in mortal danger.
Etc. etc. There's more than enough here for an employment compliance law specialist to work with.
Some might say it would have been better to avoid this adversarial situation in the first place, but how were you to know that the symbol would be so misinterpreted by certain ignorant heathens? It was your employer who assumed the adversarial position, not you. You weren't even given a chance to explain.
5
I'm pretty sure that misrepresenting one's religious beliefs in order to pursue a lawsuit constitutes fraud. There's plenty to work with here without lying.
– Russell Borogove
3 hours ago
@Russell Borogove: That's why I asked if OP is a Christian. Most Christian denominations believe in demonic possession, and prescribe methods for dealing with it, including an exorcism sacrament.
– A. I. Breveleri
1 hour ago
add a comment |
You have been discriminated against on religious grounds.
Of course you are not a Satanist. However, you are a practicing and devout member of a religion whose tenets include the possibility of demonic possession. You have been taught by your church to fear demonic possession.
The symbol that you carry is not a Satanic symbol; if anything it is an anti-Satanic symbol. It is in fact a well-known device for warding off and preventing demonic possession.
You carry this symbol as part of expressing your religious identity. To be forbidden to display this symbol is a clear infringement of your civil rights. To be fired for displaying a symbolic evidence of your religious preference is a clear violation of black-letter law that Americans currently take very very seriously.
Even if you had not been fired, depriving you of the opportunity to wear this symbol would have placed your soul in mortal danger.
Etc. etc. There's more than enough here for an employment compliance law specialist to work with.
Some might say it would have been better to avoid this adversarial situation in the first place, but how were you to know that the symbol would be so misinterpreted by certain ignorant heathens? It was your employer who assumed the adversarial position, not you. You weren't even given a chance to explain.
You have been discriminated against on religious grounds.
Of course you are not a Satanist. However, you are a practicing and devout member of a religion whose tenets include the possibility of demonic possession. You have been taught by your church to fear demonic possession.
The symbol that you carry is not a Satanic symbol; if anything it is an anti-Satanic symbol. It is in fact a well-known device for warding off and preventing demonic possession.
You carry this symbol as part of expressing your religious identity. To be forbidden to display this symbol is a clear infringement of your civil rights. To be fired for displaying a symbolic evidence of your religious preference is a clear violation of black-letter law that Americans currently take very very seriously.
Even if you had not been fired, depriving you of the opportunity to wear this symbol would have placed your soul in mortal danger.
Etc. etc. There's more than enough here for an employment compliance law specialist to work with.
Some might say it would have been better to avoid this adversarial situation in the first place, but how were you to know that the symbol would be so misinterpreted by certain ignorant heathens? It was your employer who assumed the adversarial position, not you. You weren't even given a chance to explain.
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I'm pretty sure that misrepresenting one's religious beliefs in order to pursue a lawsuit constitutes fraud. There's plenty to work with here without lying.
– Russell Borogove
3 hours ago
@Russell Borogove: That's why I asked if OP is a Christian. Most Christian denominations believe in demonic possession, and prescribe methods for dealing with it, including an exorcism sacrament.
– A. I. Breveleri
1 hour ago
add a comment |
5
I'm pretty sure that misrepresenting one's religious beliefs in order to pursue a lawsuit constitutes fraud. There's plenty to work with here without lying.
– Russell Borogove
3 hours ago
@Russell Borogove: That's why I asked if OP is a Christian. Most Christian denominations believe in demonic possession, and prescribe methods for dealing with it, including an exorcism sacrament.
– A. I. Breveleri
1 hour ago
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5
I'm pretty sure that misrepresenting one's religious beliefs in order to pursue a lawsuit constitutes fraud. There's plenty to work with here without lying.
– Russell Borogove
3 hours ago
I'm pretty sure that misrepresenting one's religious beliefs in order to pursue a lawsuit constitutes fraud. There's plenty to work with here without lying.
– Russell Borogove
3 hours ago
@Russell Borogove: That's why I asked if OP is a Christian. Most Christian denominations believe in demonic possession, and prescribe methods for dealing with it, including an exorcism sacrament.
– A. I. Breveleri
1 hour ago
@Russell Borogove: That's why I asked if OP is a Christian. Most Christian denominations believe in demonic possession, and prescribe methods for dealing with it, including an exorcism sacrament.
– A. I. Breveleri
1 hour ago
add a comment |
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What comedy club is this?
– Atizs
12 hours ago
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As your questions was can you be fired, this is a bit of an aside. If you have a good HR department, the meeting should focus on the coworker who reported you and their actions. I would bring up how they are talking about you to other coworkers accusing you of false things and how it makes you feel uncomfortable. If HR is on this lady's side I would look for a new job.
– Whitney
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@JimClay Your comments are insulting and useless for improving the question, please stop it! Btw who chose you to decide what's allowed on a desk?
– Chris
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@DaveG: I'm pretty sure a good lawyer could argue that firing someone simply for being perceived as a Satanist is illegal.
– jwodder
8 hours ago
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Lawyer up, OP. Firing you for this is completely, unequivocally illegal. Right-to-work state or not.
– DetectivePikachu
7 hours ago