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I found this article and what I read shocked me.
There are an estimated 650,000 like Hong Hanh in Vietnam, suffering
from an array of baffling chronic conditions. Another 500,000 have
already died. The thread that weaves through all their case histories
is defoliants deployed by the US military during the war. Some of the
victims are veterans who were doused in these chemicals during the
war, others are farmers who lived off land that was sprayed. The
second generation are the sons and daughters of war veterans, or
children born to parents who lived on contaminated land. Now there is
a third generation, the grandchildren of the war and its victims.
This is a chain of events bitterly denied by the US government.
Millions of litres of defoliants such as Agent Orange were dropped on
Vietnam, but US government scientists claimed that these chemicals
were harmless to humans and short-lived in the environment. US
strategists argue that Agent Orange was a prototype smart weapon, a
benign tactical herbicide that saved many hundreds of thousands of
American lives by denying the North Vietnamese army the jungle cover
that allowed it ruthlessly to strike and feint. New scientific
research, however, confirms what the Vietnamese have been claiming for
years. It also portrays the US government as one that has illicitly
used weapons of mass destruction, stymied all independent efforts to
assess the impact of their deployment, failed to acknowledge cold,
hard evidence of maiming and slaughter, and pursued a policy of
evasion and deception.
Isn't there a legal recourse people in Vietnam can use to get compensation and can the U.S. deny them by just denying it ever happened? I would have thought there could be a sort of "international court" punishing crimes against humanity like we did to Saddam Hussein, or is the "international court" an institution that only punish the losers during a war? The use of chemical weapon is clearly illegal and could be considered a crime against humanity. If so, can a country like the U.S. prevent from being prosecuted for it by denying it happened?
international-law war international
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I found this article and what I read shocked me.
There are an estimated 650,000 like Hong Hanh in Vietnam, suffering
from an array of baffling chronic conditions. Another 500,000 have
already died. The thread that weaves through all their case histories
is defoliants deployed by the US military during the war. Some of the
victims are veterans who were doused in these chemicals during the
war, others are farmers who lived off land that was sprayed. The
second generation are the sons and daughters of war veterans, or
children born to parents who lived on contaminated land. Now there is
a third generation, the grandchildren of the war and its victims.
This is a chain of events bitterly denied by the US government.
Millions of litres of defoliants such as Agent Orange were dropped on
Vietnam, but US government scientists claimed that these chemicals
were harmless to humans and short-lived in the environment. US
strategists argue that Agent Orange was a prototype smart weapon, a
benign tactical herbicide that saved many hundreds of thousands of
American lives by denying the North Vietnamese army the jungle cover
that allowed it ruthlessly to strike and feint. New scientific
research, however, confirms what the Vietnamese have been claiming for
years. It also portrays the US government as one that has illicitly
used weapons of mass destruction, stymied all independent efforts to
assess the impact of their deployment, failed to acknowledge cold,
hard evidence of maiming and slaughter, and pursued a policy of
evasion and deception.
Isn't there a legal recourse people in Vietnam can use to get compensation and can the U.S. deny them by just denying it ever happened? I would have thought there could be a sort of "international court" punishing crimes against humanity like we did to Saddam Hussein, or is the "international court" an institution that only punish the losers during a war? The use of chemical weapon is clearly illegal and could be considered a crime against humanity. If so, can a country like the U.S. prevent from being prosecuted for it by denying it happened?
international-law war international
Saddam Hussein was tried by the Supreme Iraqi Criminal Tribunal, which drew its authority from the transitional government set up in the wake of the US-led invasion. It wasn't precisely international, which was a fact certain human rights groups complained about en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_of_Saddam_Hussein
– origimbo
11 hours ago
1
Where did you "find" this article? Does it say what the "New scientific research" actually is? Agent Orange (and similar chemicals) were widely used in North America too, and the health of many workers suffered as a result, but that doesn't mean there was a government conspiracy to deliberately harm them.
– Ray Butterworth
11 hours ago
Can you narrow this down to just one question? This post is all over the place.
– K Dog
10 hours ago
2
Have you heard of the Armenian genocide? The first modern genocide is denied ot this day. Denial is the rule not the exception. Also the Vietnamese govt has their own skeletons to consider. The only real hope is for a country to internally impose justice or some kind of unforced apoplogy.
– A Simple Algorithm
10 hours ago
Obviously so. Why are you even asking the question? Turkey is doing very well. On the other hand, Germany is constantly under pressure, has only limited freedom of expression.
– Bregalad
5 hours ago
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I found this article and what I read shocked me.
There are an estimated 650,000 like Hong Hanh in Vietnam, suffering
from an array of baffling chronic conditions. Another 500,000 have
already died. The thread that weaves through all their case histories
is defoliants deployed by the US military during the war. Some of the
victims are veterans who were doused in these chemicals during the
war, others are farmers who lived off land that was sprayed. The
second generation are the sons and daughters of war veterans, or
children born to parents who lived on contaminated land. Now there is
a third generation, the grandchildren of the war and its victims.
This is a chain of events bitterly denied by the US government.
Millions of litres of defoliants such as Agent Orange were dropped on
Vietnam, but US government scientists claimed that these chemicals
were harmless to humans and short-lived in the environment. US
strategists argue that Agent Orange was a prototype smart weapon, a
benign tactical herbicide that saved many hundreds of thousands of
American lives by denying the North Vietnamese army the jungle cover
that allowed it ruthlessly to strike and feint. New scientific
research, however, confirms what the Vietnamese have been claiming for
years. It also portrays the US government as one that has illicitly
used weapons of mass destruction, stymied all independent efforts to
assess the impact of their deployment, failed to acknowledge cold,
hard evidence of maiming and slaughter, and pursued a policy of
evasion and deception.
Isn't there a legal recourse people in Vietnam can use to get compensation and can the U.S. deny them by just denying it ever happened? I would have thought there could be a sort of "international court" punishing crimes against humanity like we did to Saddam Hussein, or is the "international court" an institution that only punish the losers during a war? The use of chemical weapon is clearly illegal and could be considered a crime against humanity. If so, can a country like the U.S. prevent from being prosecuted for it by denying it happened?
international-law war international
I found this article and what I read shocked me.
There are an estimated 650,000 like Hong Hanh in Vietnam, suffering
from an array of baffling chronic conditions. Another 500,000 have
already died. The thread that weaves through all their case histories
is defoliants deployed by the US military during the war. Some of the
victims are veterans who were doused in these chemicals during the
war, others are farmers who lived off land that was sprayed. The
second generation are the sons and daughters of war veterans, or
children born to parents who lived on contaminated land. Now there is
a third generation, the grandchildren of the war and its victims.
This is a chain of events bitterly denied by the US government.
Millions of litres of defoliants such as Agent Orange were dropped on
Vietnam, but US government scientists claimed that these chemicals
were harmless to humans and short-lived in the environment. US
strategists argue that Agent Orange was a prototype smart weapon, a
benign tactical herbicide that saved many hundreds of thousands of
American lives by denying the North Vietnamese army the jungle cover
that allowed it ruthlessly to strike and feint. New scientific
research, however, confirms what the Vietnamese have been claiming for
years. It also portrays the US government as one that has illicitly
used weapons of mass destruction, stymied all independent efforts to
assess the impact of their deployment, failed to acknowledge cold,
hard evidence of maiming and slaughter, and pursued a policy of
evasion and deception.
Isn't there a legal recourse people in Vietnam can use to get compensation and can the U.S. deny them by just denying it ever happened? I would have thought there could be a sort of "international court" punishing crimes against humanity like we did to Saddam Hussein, or is the "international court" an institution that only punish the losers during a war? The use of chemical weapon is clearly illegal and could be considered a crime against humanity. If so, can a country like the U.S. prevent from being prosecuted for it by denying it happened?
international-law war international
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Saddam Hussein was tried by the Supreme Iraqi Criminal Tribunal, which drew its authority from the transitional government set up in the wake of the US-led invasion. It wasn't precisely international, which was a fact certain human rights groups complained about en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_of_Saddam_Hussein
– origimbo
11 hours ago
1
Where did you "find" this article? Does it say what the "New scientific research" actually is? Agent Orange (and similar chemicals) were widely used in North America too, and the health of many workers suffered as a result, but that doesn't mean there was a government conspiracy to deliberately harm them.
– Ray Butterworth
11 hours ago
Can you narrow this down to just one question? This post is all over the place.
– K Dog
10 hours ago
2
Have you heard of the Armenian genocide? The first modern genocide is denied ot this day. Denial is the rule not the exception. Also the Vietnamese govt has their own skeletons to consider. The only real hope is for a country to internally impose justice or some kind of unforced apoplogy.
– A Simple Algorithm
10 hours ago
Obviously so. Why are you even asking the question? Turkey is doing very well. On the other hand, Germany is constantly under pressure, has only limited freedom of expression.
– Bregalad
5 hours ago
add a comment |
Saddam Hussein was tried by the Supreme Iraqi Criminal Tribunal, which drew its authority from the transitional government set up in the wake of the US-led invasion. It wasn't precisely international, which was a fact certain human rights groups complained about en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_of_Saddam_Hussein
– origimbo
11 hours ago
1
Where did you "find" this article? Does it say what the "New scientific research" actually is? Agent Orange (and similar chemicals) were widely used in North America too, and the health of many workers suffered as a result, but that doesn't mean there was a government conspiracy to deliberately harm them.
– Ray Butterworth
11 hours ago
Can you narrow this down to just one question? This post is all over the place.
– K Dog
10 hours ago
2
Have you heard of the Armenian genocide? The first modern genocide is denied ot this day. Denial is the rule not the exception. Also the Vietnamese govt has their own skeletons to consider. The only real hope is for a country to internally impose justice or some kind of unforced apoplogy.
– A Simple Algorithm
10 hours ago
Obviously so. Why are you even asking the question? Turkey is doing very well. On the other hand, Germany is constantly under pressure, has only limited freedom of expression.
– Bregalad
5 hours ago
Saddam Hussein was tried by the Supreme Iraqi Criminal Tribunal, which drew its authority from the transitional government set up in the wake of the US-led invasion. It wasn't precisely international, which was a fact certain human rights groups complained about en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_of_Saddam_Hussein
– origimbo
11 hours ago
Saddam Hussein was tried by the Supreme Iraqi Criminal Tribunal, which drew its authority from the transitional government set up in the wake of the US-led invasion. It wasn't precisely international, which was a fact certain human rights groups complained about en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_of_Saddam_Hussein
– origimbo
11 hours ago
1
1
Where did you "find" this article? Does it say what the "New scientific research" actually is? Agent Orange (and similar chemicals) were widely used in North America too, and the health of many workers suffered as a result, but that doesn't mean there was a government conspiracy to deliberately harm them.
– Ray Butterworth
11 hours ago
Where did you "find" this article? Does it say what the "New scientific research" actually is? Agent Orange (and similar chemicals) were widely used in North America too, and the health of many workers suffered as a result, but that doesn't mean there was a government conspiracy to deliberately harm them.
– Ray Butterworth
11 hours ago
Can you narrow this down to just one question? This post is all over the place.
– K Dog
10 hours ago
Can you narrow this down to just one question? This post is all over the place.
– K Dog
10 hours ago
2
2
Have you heard of the Armenian genocide? The first modern genocide is denied ot this day. Denial is the rule not the exception. Also the Vietnamese govt has their own skeletons to consider. The only real hope is for a country to internally impose justice or some kind of unforced apoplogy.
– A Simple Algorithm
10 hours ago
Have you heard of the Armenian genocide? The first modern genocide is denied ot this day. Denial is the rule not the exception. Also the Vietnamese govt has their own skeletons to consider. The only real hope is for a country to internally impose justice or some kind of unforced apoplogy.
– A Simple Algorithm
10 hours ago
Obviously so. Why are you even asking the question? Turkey is doing very well. On the other hand, Germany is constantly under pressure, has only limited freedom of expression.
– Bregalad
5 hours ago
Obviously so. Why are you even asking the question? Turkey is doing very well. On the other hand, Germany is constantly under pressure, has only limited freedom of expression.
– Bregalad
5 hours ago
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Your question is slightly at odds with reality.
First off, with the important exception of the US government, nobody sensible is quibbling over the mounting amount of evidence that Agent Orange had short and long lasting side effects.
As you've noted already, the US government is not accepting any guilt or responsibility. So the real question is whether there's a court that could find the United States or some of its service members guilty.
There are an International Court of Justice and an International Criminal Court. However:
The United States withdrew from compulsory jurisdiction of the first in 1986, and began to accept the court's jurisdiction only on a discretionary basis in the aftermath of Nicaragua vs the United States.
The United States not only rejects submitting to the second, but also passed the American Service-Members' Protection Act (aka "Hague Invasion Act") which requires POTUS to use "all means necessary and appropriate to bring about the release of any U.S. or allied personnel being detained or imprisoned by, on behalf of, or at the request of the International Criminal Court."
As you may know, the US military budget is rather significant, to put it mildly. As such it's not like another country can force the US to comply with a world court order.
So in practice and until the US stance chances, there isn't much that the affected Vietnamese can do to seek remedy besides exhausting court options.
add a comment |
Countries are not usually prosecuted, only the individuals responsible in the command structure.
There is an international criminal court; not only is the US not signed up to obey it's judgements, there is a specific law ("Hague Invasion Act") preventing it's judgements being enforced against US military staff.
"international court" an institution that only punish the losers during a war?
Pretty much yes. As a matter of realpolitik it cannot be otherwise, except in extremely small conflicts between or within powerless countries.
add a comment |
The question is very much at odds with reality. First the US a long time ago acknowledged the use of Agent Orange and it's side effects. Consider
In the Agent Orange Act of 1991, Congress required the National Academy of Sciences to review periodically all medical and scientific research on the health effects of exposure to Agent Orange/dioxin and other chemicals used during the Vietnam War, and to their individual components. The NAS Institute of Medicine now issues biennial reports called Veterans and Agent Orange. The most recent one was issued in July 2009.
Much more at the link. But how does this relate to US/Vietnam relations and responsibilities?
U.S. officials have begun dialogue with Vietnamese counterparts about a humanitarian approach to the issue. In addition, Congress has appropriated $40.1 million since 2007 for environmental remediation of dioxin-contaminated sites and for related health activities, on a humanitarian basis.
Why was this answer downvoted?
– Andrew Grimm
2 hours ago
That article quotes $16 billion for US vets versus $40m for Vietnamese remediation, a 400/1 difference. Omitting the first number removes useful context.
– agc
1 hour ago
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Your question is slightly at odds with reality.
First off, with the important exception of the US government, nobody sensible is quibbling over the mounting amount of evidence that Agent Orange had short and long lasting side effects.
As you've noted already, the US government is not accepting any guilt or responsibility. So the real question is whether there's a court that could find the United States or some of its service members guilty.
There are an International Court of Justice and an International Criminal Court. However:
The United States withdrew from compulsory jurisdiction of the first in 1986, and began to accept the court's jurisdiction only on a discretionary basis in the aftermath of Nicaragua vs the United States.
The United States not only rejects submitting to the second, but also passed the American Service-Members' Protection Act (aka "Hague Invasion Act") which requires POTUS to use "all means necessary and appropriate to bring about the release of any U.S. or allied personnel being detained or imprisoned by, on behalf of, or at the request of the International Criminal Court."
As you may know, the US military budget is rather significant, to put it mildly. As such it's not like another country can force the US to comply with a world court order.
So in practice and until the US stance chances, there isn't much that the affected Vietnamese can do to seek remedy besides exhausting court options.
add a comment |
Your question is slightly at odds with reality.
First off, with the important exception of the US government, nobody sensible is quibbling over the mounting amount of evidence that Agent Orange had short and long lasting side effects.
As you've noted already, the US government is not accepting any guilt or responsibility. So the real question is whether there's a court that could find the United States or some of its service members guilty.
There are an International Court of Justice and an International Criminal Court. However:
The United States withdrew from compulsory jurisdiction of the first in 1986, and began to accept the court's jurisdiction only on a discretionary basis in the aftermath of Nicaragua vs the United States.
The United States not only rejects submitting to the second, but also passed the American Service-Members' Protection Act (aka "Hague Invasion Act") which requires POTUS to use "all means necessary and appropriate to bring about the release of any U.S. or allied personnel being detained or imprisoned by, on behalf of, or at the request of the International Criminal Court."
As you may know, the US military budget is rather significant, to put it mildly. As such it's not like another country can force the US to comply with a world court order.
So in practice and until the US stance chances, there isn't much that the affected Vietnamese can do to seek remedy besides exhausting court options.
add a comment |
Your question is slightly at odds with reality.
First off, with the important exception of the US government, nobody sensible is quibbling over the mounting amount of evidence that Agent Orange had short and long lasting side effects.
As you've noted already, the US government is not accepting any guilt or responsibility. So the real question is whether there's a court that could find the United States or some of its service members guilty.
There are an International Court of Justice and an International Criminal Court. However:
The United States withdrew from compulsory jurisdiction of the first in 1986, and began to accept the court's jurisdiction only on a discretionary basis in the aftermath of Nicaragua vs the United States.
The United States not only rejects submitting to the second, but also passed the American Service-Members' Protection Act (aka "Hague Invasion Act") which requires POTUS to use "all means necessary and appropriate to bring about the release of any U.S. or allied personnel being detained or imprisoned by, on behalf of, or at the request of the International Criminal Court."
As you may know, the US military budget is rather significant, to put it mildly. As such it's not like another country can force the US to comply with a world court order.
So in practice and until the US stance chances, there isn't much that the affected Vietnamese can do to seek remedy besides exhausting court options.
Your question is slightly at odds with reality.
First off, with the important exception of the US government, nobody sensible is quibbling over the mounting amount of evidence that Agent Orange had short and long lasting side effects.
As you've noted already, the US government is not accepting any guilt or responsibility. So the real question is whether there's a court that could find the United States or some of its service members guilty.
There are an International Court of Justice and an International Criminal Court. However:
The United States withdrew from compulsory jurisdiction of the first in 1986, and began to accept the court's jurisdiction only on a discretionary basis in the aftermath of Nicaragua vs the United States.
The United States not only rejects submitting to the second, but also passed the American Service-Members' Protection Act (aka "Hague Invasion Act") which requires POTUS to use "all means necessary and appropriate to bring about the release of any U.S. or allied personnel being detained or imprisoned by, on behalf of, or at the request of the International Criminal Court."
As you may know, the US military budget is rather significant, to put it mildly. As such it's not like another country can force the US to comply with a world court order.
So in practice and until the US stance chances, there isn't much that the affected Vietnamese can do to seek remedy besides exhausting court options.
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Countries are not usually prosecuted, only the individuals responsible in the command structure.
There is an international criminal court; not only is the US not signed up to obey it's judgements, there is a specific law ("Hague Invasion Act") preventing it's judgements being enforced against US military staff.
"international court" an institution that only punish the losers during a war?
Pretty much yes. As a matter of realpolitik it cannot be otherwise, except in extremely small conflicts between or within powerless countries.
add a comment |
Countries are not usually prosecuted, only the individuals responsible in the command structure.
There is an international criminal court; not only is the US not signed up to obey it's judgements, there is a specific law ("Hague Invasion Act") preventing it's judgements being enforced against US military staff.
"international court" an institution that only punish the losers during a war?
Pretty much yes. As a matter of realpolitik it cannot be otherwise, except in extremely small conflicts between or within powerless countries.
add a comment |
Countries are not usually prosecuted, only the individuals responsible in the command structure.
There is an international criminal court; not only is the US not signed up to obey it's judgements, there is a specific law ("Hague Invasion Act") preventing it's judgements being enforced against US military staff.
"international court" an institution that only punish the losers during a war?
Pretty much yes. As a matter of realpolitik it cannot be otherwise, except in extremely small conflicts between or within powerless countries.
Countries are not usually prosecuted, only the individuals responsible in the command structure.
There is an international criminal court; not only is the US not signed up to obey it's judgements, there is a specific law ("Hague Invasion Act") preventing it's judgements being enforced against US military staff.
"international court" an institution that only punish the losers during a war?
Pretty much yes. As a matter of realpolitik it cannot be otherwise, except in extremely small conflicts between or within powerless countries.
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The question is very much at odds with reality. First the US a long time ago acknowledged the use of Agent Orange and it's side effects. Consider
In the Agent Orange Act of 1991, Congress required the National Academy of Sciences to review periodically all medical and scientific research on the health effects of exposure to Agent Orange/dioxin and other chemicals used during the Vietnam War, and to their individual components. The NAS Institute of Medicine now issues biennial reports called Veterans and Agent Orange. The most recent one was issued in July 2009.
Much more at the link. But how does this relate to US/Vietnam relations and responsibilities?
U.S. officials have begun dialogue with Vietnamese counterparts about a humanitarian approach to the issue. In addition, Congress has appropriated $40.1 million since 2007 for environmental remediation of dioxin-contaminated sites and for related health activities, on a humanitarian basis.
Why was this answer downvoted?
– Andrew Grimm
2 hours ago
That article quotes $16 billion for US vets versus $40m for Vietnamese remediation, a 400/1 difference. Omitting the first number removes useful context.
– agc
1 hour ago
add a comment |
The question is very much at odds with reality. First the US a long time ago acknowledged the use of Agent Orange and it's side effects. Consider
In the Agent Orange Act of 1991, Congress required the National Academy of Sciences to review periodically all medical and scientific research on the health effects of exposure to Agent Orange/dioxin and other chemicals used during the Vietnam War, and to their individual components. The NAS Institute of Medicine now issues biennial reports called Veterans and Agent Orange. The most recent one was issued in July 2009.
Much more at the link. But how does this relate to US/Vietnam relations and responsibilities?
U.S. officials have begun dialogue with Vietnamese counterparts about a humanitarian approach to the issue. In addition, Congress has appropriated $40.1 million since 2007 for environmental remediation of dioxin-contaminated sites and for related health activities, on a humanitarian basis.
Why was this answer downvoted?
– Andrew Grimm
2 hours ago
That article quotes $16 billion for US vets versus $40m for Vietnamese remediation, a 400/1 difference. Omitting the first number removes useful context.
– agc
1 hour ago
add a comment |
The question is very much at odds with reality. First the US a long time ago acknowledged the use of Agent Orange and it's side effects. Consider
In the Agent Orange Act of 1991, Congress required the National Academy of Sciences to review periodically all medical and scientific research on the health effects of exposure to Agent Orange/dioxin and other chemicals used during the Vietnam War, and to their individual components. The NAS Institute of Medicine now issues biennial reports called Veterans and Agent Orange. The most recent one was issued in July 2009.
Much more at the link. But how does this relate to US/Vietnam relations and responsibilities?
U.S. officials have begun dialogue with Vietnamese counterparts about a humanitarian approach to the issue. In addition, Congress has appropriated $40.1 million since 2007 for environmental remediation of dioxin-contaminated sites and for related health activities, on a humanitarian basis.
The question is very much at odds with reality. First the US a long time ago acknowledged the use of Agent Orange and it's side effects. Consider
In the Agent Orange Act of 1991, Congress required the National Academy of Sciences to review periodically all medical and scientific research on the health effects of exposure to Agent Orange/dioxin and other chemicals used during the Vietnam War, and to their individual components. The NAS Institute of Medicine now issues biennial reports called Veterans and Agent Orange. The most recent one was issued in July 2009.
Much more at the link. But how does this relate to US/Vietnam relations and responsibilities?
U.S. officials have begun dialogue with Vietnamese counterparts about a humanitarian approach to the issue. In addition, Congress has appropriated $40.1 million since 2007 for environmental remediation of dioxin-contaminated sites and for related health activities, on a humanitarian basis.
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– Andrew Grimm
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That article quotes $16 billion for US vets versus $40m for Vietnamese remediation, a 400/1 difference. Omitting the first number removes useful context.
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– Andrew Grimm
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That article quotes $16 billion for US vets versus $40m for Vietnamese remediation, a 400/1 difference. Omitting the first number removes useful context.
– agc
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Why was this answer downvoted?
– Andrew Grimm
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Why was this answer downvoted?
– Andrew Grimm
2 hours ago
That article quotes $16 billion for US vets versus $40m for Vietnamese remediation, a 400/1 difference. Omitting the first number removes useful context.
– agc
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That article quotes $16 billion for US vets versus $40m for Vietnamese remediation, a 400/1 difference. Omitting the first number removes useful context.
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Saddam Hussein was tried by the Supreme Iraqi Criminal Tribunal, which drew its authority from the transitional government set up in the wake of the US-led invasion. It wasn't precisely international, which was a fact certain human rights groups complained about en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_of_Saddam_Hussein
– origimbo
11 hours ago
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Where did you "find" this article? Does it say what the "New scientific research" actually is? Agent Orange (and similar chemicals) were widely used in North America too, and the health of many workers suffered as a result, but that doesn't mean there was a government conspiracy to deliberately harm them.
– Ray Butterworth
11 hours ago
Can you narrow this down to just one question? This post is all over the place.
– K Dog
10 hours ago
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Have you heard of the Armenian genocide? The first modern genocide is denied ot this day. Denial is the rule not the exception. Also the Vietnamese govt has their own skeletons to consider. The only real hope is for a country to internally impose justice or some kind of unforced apoplogy.
– A Simple Algorithm
10 hours ago
Obviously so. Why are you even asking the question? Turkey is doing very well. On the other hand, Germany is constantly under pressure, has only limited freedom of expression.
– Bregalad
5 hours ago