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Today I got a letter from my office's conduct and conflict resolution department stating I allegedly made "sexist comments on two occasions to an anonymous female student".



At my current working environment, were all students age's ranging from 20-24 and banter going back and forth in the office is the norm.



Me and a co-worker were talking about gender roles in north american society and particularly about how women are susceptible to paying a pink tax on feminized marketed products, female to male wage gaps, and male prioritization in leadership positions. As we were discussing this out loud in the office there were several females present, I do admit I did make subtle remarks on the status quo of females in the workplace, I wasn't open endedly offending women or making extreme sexist claims but I was stating my perspective on women in the workplace while keeping a civilized tone and neutral argument.



As far as I can remember, multiple people were in and out of the office and the discussion going on could have leaked around to the wrong set of ears, and one particular girl in the office that sits across from me absolutely despises the fact that I make more money than her simply because of the fact that I work in I.T and she works in customer service and my work consists of dealing with 0% of peoples bullshit ( i would envy myself too if I were in her position, and I have stated that the wages should be the other way around to her but evidently that is not how our business runs and I don't decide how the budget is made, HR does that).



I have a court hearing at the end of this working week where I will discuss with my rival contemporary who at this point remains anonymous but I highly suspect is the girl who sits across from me the issues pertaining to the alleged "sexist comments" directed toward this anonymous female who felt offended.



What do I say in this open court hearing in order to save my reputation and keep my current job.










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    It's unclear from your question, but are you conceding that you made comments which might naturally be interpreted as sexist? That's how the third paragraph reads.

    – Upper_Case
    8 hours ago






  • 1





    "I do admit I did make subtle remarks on the status quo of females in the workplace" - seems like you suspect this is the heart of the matter. Just be prepared to discuss it, in case your suspicions are correct.

    – Joe Strazzere
    8 hours ago






  • 2





    @JoeStrazzere An example I said was that a majority of women that end up in car accidents is part due to the lack of high response time activity participation during adolescence and childhood, compared to male drivers that regularly engage during their early years in video games & sports, these activities require fast hand-eye coordination and develop our cognition to have quicker response times which translate to our driving during adulthood and cause us to have less frequent collisions compared to female contemporaries.

    – Roosevelt Mendieta
    7 hours ago






  • 1





    1. If the female is over 18, "woman" not "girl", 2. gender bias for car accidents correlated to sports/video game practice - citation please?

    – mkennedy
    6 hours ago






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    please don't use comment to discuss OP, but rather the question. I would suggest editing question to add the example thing OP said.

    – aaaaaa
    5 hours ago


















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Today I got a letter from my office's conduct and conflict resolution department stating I allegedly made "sexist comments on two occasions to an anonymous female student".



At my current working environment, were all students age's ranging from 20-24 and banter going back and forth in the office is the norm.



Me and a co-worker were talking about gender roles in north american society and particularly about how women are susceptible to paying a pink tax on feminized marketed products, female to male wage gaps, and male prioritization in leadership positions. As we were discussing this out loud in the office there were several females present, I do admit I did make subtle remarks on the status quo of females in the workplace, I wasn't open endedly offending women or making extreme sexist claims but I was stating my perspective on women in the workplace while keeping a civilized tone and neutral argument.



As far as I can remember, multiple people were in and out of the office and the discussion going on could have leaked around to the wrong set of ears, and one particular girl in the office that sits across from me absolutely despises the fact that I make more money than her simply because of the fact that I work in I.T and she works in customer service and my work consists of dealing with 0% of peoples bullshit ( i would envy myself too if I were in her position, and I have stated that the wages should be the other way around to her but evidently that is not how our business runs and I don't decide how the budget is made, HR does that).



I have a court hearing at the end of this working week where I will discuss with my rival contemporary who at this point remains anonymous but I highly suspect is the girl who sits across from me the issues pertaining to the alleged "sexist comments" directed toward this anonymous female who felt offended.



What do I say in this open court hearing in order to save my reputation and keep my current job.










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  • 3





    It's unclear from your question, but are you conceding that you made comments which might naturally be interpreted as sexist? That's how the third paragraph reads.

    – Upper_Case
    8 hours ago






  • 1





    "I do admit I did make subtle remarks on the status quo of females in the workplace" - seems like you suspect this is the heart of the matter. Just be prepared to discuss it, in case your suspicions are correct.

    – Joe Strazzere
    8 hours ago






  • 2





    @JoeStrazzere An example I said was that a majority of women that end up in car accidents is part due to the lack of high response time activity participation during adolescence and childhood, compared to male drivers that regularly engage during their early years in video games & sports, these activities require fast hand-eye coordination and develop our cognition to have quicker response times which translate to our driving during adulthood and cause us to have less frequent collisions compared to female contemporaries.

    – Roosevelt Mendieta
    7 hours ago






  • 1





    1. If the female is over 18, "woman" not "girl", 2. gender bias for car accidents correlated to sports/video game practice - citation please?

    – mkennedy
    6 hours ago






  • 1





    please don't use comment to discuss OP, but rather the question. I would suggest editing question to add the example thing OP said.

    – aaaaaa
    5 hours ago














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2








2








Today I got a letter from my office's conduct and conflict resolution department stating I allegedly made "sexist comments on two occasions to an anonymous female student".



At my current working environment, were all students age's ranging from 20-24 and banter going back and forth in the office is the norm.



Me and a co-worker were talking about gender roles in north american society and particularly about how women are susceptible to paying a pink tax on feminized marketed products, female to male wage gaps, and male prioritization in leadership positions. As we were discussing this out loud in the office there were several females present, I do admit I did make subtle remarks on the status quo of females in the workplace, I wasn't open endedly offending women or making extreme sexist claims but I was stating my perspective on women in the workplace while keeping a civilized tone and neutral argument.



As far as I can remember, multiple people were in and out of the office and the discussion going on could have leaked around to the wrong set of ears, and one particular girl in the office that sits across from me absolutely despises the fact that I make more money than her simply because of the fact that I work in I.T and she works in customer service and my work consists of dealing with 0% of peoples bullshit ( i would envy myself too if I were in her position, and I have stated that the wages should be the other way around to her but evidently that is not how our business runs and I don't decide how the budget is made, HR does that).



I have a court hearing at the end of this working week where I will discuss with my rival contemporary who at this point remains anonymous but I highly suspect is the girl who sits across from me the issues pertaining to the alleged "sexist comments" directed toward this anonymous female who felt offended.



What do I say in this open court hearing in order to save my reputation and keep my current job.










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Today I got a letter from my office's conduct and conflict resolution department stating I allegedly made "sexist comments on two occasions to an anonymous female student".



At my current working environment, were all students age's ranging from 20-24 and banter going back and forth in the office is the norm.



Me and a co-worker were talking about gender roles in north american society and particularly about how women are susceptible to paying a pink tax on feminized marketed products, female to male wage gaps, and male prioritization in leadership positions. As we were discussing this out loud in the office there were several females present, I do admit I did make subtle remarks on the status quo of females in the workplace, I wasn't open endedly offending women or making extreme sexist claims but I was stating my perspective on women in the workplace while keeping a civilized tone and neutral argument.



As far as I can remember, multiple people were in and out of the office and the discussion going on could have leaked around to the wrong set of ears, and one particular girl in the office that sits across from me absolutely despises the fact that I make more money than her simply because of the fact that I work in I.T and she works in customer service and my work consists of dealing with 0% of peoples bullshit ( i would envy myself too if I were in her position, and I have stated that the wages should be the other way around to her but evidently that is not how our business runs and I don't decide how the budget is made, HR does that).



I have a court hearing at the end of this working week where I will discuss with my rival contemporary who at this point remains anonymous but I highly suspect is the girl who sits across from me the issues pertaining to the alleged "sexist comments" directed toward this anonymous female who felt offended.



What do I say in this open court hearing in order to save my reputation and keep my current job.







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  • 3





    It's unclear from your question, but are you conceding that you made comments which might naturally be interpreted as sexist? That's how the third paragraph reads.

    – Upper_Case
    8 hours ago






  • 1





    "I do admit I did make subtle remarks on the status quo of females in the workplace" - seems like you suspect this is the heart of the matter. Just be prepared to discuss it, in case your suspicions are correct.

    – Joe Strazzere
    8 hours ago






  • 2





    @JoeStrazzere An example I said was that a majority of women that end up in car accidents is part due to the lack of high response time activity participation during adolescence and childhood, compared to male drivers that regularly engage during their early years in video games & sports, these activities require fast hand-eye coordination and develop our cognition to have quicker response times which translate to our driving during adulthood and cause us to have less frequent collisions compared to female contemporaries.

    – Roosevelt Mendieta
    7 hours ago






  • 1





    1. If the female is over 18, "woman" not "girl", 2. gender bias for car accidents correlated to sports/video game practice - citation please?

    – mkennedy
    6 hours ago






  • 1





    please don't use comment to discuss OP, but rather the question. I would suggest editing question to add the example thing OP said.

    – aaaaaa
    5 hours ago














  • 3





    It's unclear from your question, but are you conceding that you made comments which might naturally be interpreted as sexist? That's how the third paragraph reads.

    – Upper_Case
    8 hours ago






  • 1





    "I do admit I did make subtle remarks on the status quo of females in the workplace" - seems like you suspect this is the heart of the matter. Just be prepared to discuss it, in case your suspicions are correct.

    – Joe Strazzere
    8 hours ago






  • 2





    @JoeStrazzere An example I said was that a majority of women that end up in car accidents is part due to the lack of high response time activity participation during adolescence and childhood, compared to male drivers that regularly engage during their early years in video games & sports, these activities require fast hand-eye coordination and develop our cognition to have quicker response times which translate to our driving during adulthood and cause us to have less frequent collisions compared to female contemporaries.

    – Roosevelt Mendieta
    7 hours ago






  • 1





    1. If the female is over 18, "woman" not "girl", 2. gender bias for car accidents correlated to sports/video game practice - citation please?

    – mkennedy
    6 hours ago






  • 1





    please don't use comment to discuss OP, but rather the question. I would suggest editing question to add the example thing OP said.

    – aaaaaa
    5 hours ago








3




3





It's unclear from your question, but are you conceding that you made comments which might naturally be interpreted as sexist? That's how the third paragraph reads.

– Upper_Case
8 hours ago





It's unclear from your question, but are you conceding that you made comments which might naturally be interpreted as sexist? That's how the third paragraph reads.

– Upper_Case
8 hours ago




1




1





"I do admit I did make subtle remarks on the status quo of females in the workplace" - seems like you suspect this is the heart of the matter. Just be prepared to discuss it, in case your suspicions are correct.

– Joe Strazzere
8 hours ago





"I do admit I did make subtle remarks on the status quo of females in the workplace" - seems like you suspect this is the heart of the matter. Just be prepared to discuss it, in case your suspicions are correct.

– Joe Strazzere
8 hours ago




2




2





@JoeStrazzere An example I said was that a majority of women that end up in car accidents is part due to the lack of high response time activity participation during adolescence and childhood, compared to male drivers that regularly engage during their early years in video games & sports, these activities require fast hand-eye coordination and develop our cognition to have quicker response times which translate to our driving during adulthood and cause us to have less frequent collisions compared to female contemporaries.

– Roosevelt Mendieta
7 hours ago





@JoeStrazzere An example I said was that a majority of women that end up in car accidents is part due to the lack of high response time activity participation during adolescence and childhood, compared to male drivers that regularly engage during their early years in video games & sports, these activities require fast hand-eye coordination and develop our cognition to have quicker response times which translate to our driving during adulthood and cause us to have less frequent collisions compared to female contemporaries.

– Roosevelt Mendieta
7 hours ago




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1. If the female is over 18, "woman" not "girl", 2. gender bias for car accidents correlated to sports/video game practice - citation please?

– mkennedy
6 hours ago





1. If the female is over 18, "woman" not "girl", 2. gender bias for car accidents correlated to sports/video game practice - citation please?

– mkennedy
6 hours ago




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please don't use comment to discuss OP, but rather the question. I would suggest editing question to add the example thing OP said.

– aaaaaa
5 hours ago





please don't use comment to discuss OP, but rather the question. I would suggest editing question to add the example thing OP said.

– aaaaaa
5 hours ago










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What do I say in this open court hearing in order to save my
reputation and keep my current job.




You simply answer all questions fully and honestly, and give your side of the story.



There's not much else you can do here.




I have a court hearing at the end of this working week where I will
discuss with my rival contemporary who at this point remains anonymous
but I highly suspect is the girl who sits across from me the issues
pertaining to the alleged "sexist comments" directed toward this
anonymous female who felt offended.




Try not to make such assumptions/accusations. They won't be helpful to you during this session.



Just deal with whatever is actually asked or presented without speculation.






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    And when you do respond, use the term 'woman' instead of 'girl' or 'female'. Unless you usually refer to men as 'boys' and 'males'.

    – thursdaysgeek
    8 hours ago






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    The words without speculation should be emphasized. The question is riddled with pre-emptive defensive content based on things the OP assumes are most likely to have happened (including the guess as to the complainant). It's also true that the OP having expressed their perspective in a "civilized tone and neutral argument" provides zero defense against the charge. Clear, direct answers to the questions as asked are the OP's best bet (regardless of the outcome).

    – Upper_Case
    8 hours ago













  • Using “boys” to describe a young adult who is male is as offensive as referring to a young adult who is a female as a “girl”. How about “Mr.” and “Ms.” when referring to your coworkers in a courtroom?

    – Ramhound
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I do admit I did make subtle remarks on the status quo of females in
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The first lesson is to not discuss topics of gender, race, religion, politics, ethnicity, etc. If you don't engage in these conversations then you are removing any possibility of your receiving any repercussions of these types of conversations.



As to what you should do in your hearing, as Joe stated in his answer, answer any and all questions honestly and sincerely.



Leave your personal issue with your peer out of it. Take accountability for your actions. Even if your peer was the one who reported this, you've admitted to making some statements... so own up to them.






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    What do I say in this open court hearing in order to save my
    reputation and keep my current job.




    You simply answer all questions fully and honestly, and give your side of the story.



    There's not much else you can do here.




    I have a court hearing at the end of this working week where I will
    discuss with my rival contemporary who at this point remains anonymous
    but I highly suspect is the girl who sits across from me the issues
    pertaining to the alleged "sexist comments" directed toward this
    anonymous female who felt offended.




    Try not to make such assumptions/accusations. They won't be helpful to you during this session.



    Just deal with whatever is actually asked or presented without speculation.






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    • 4





      And when you do respond, use the term 'woman' instead of 'girl' or 'female'. Unless you usually refer to men as 'boys' and 'males'.

      – thursdaysgeek
      8 hours ago






    • 3





      The words without speculation should be emphasized. The question is riddled with pre-emptive defensive content based on things the OP assumes are most likely to have happened (including the guess as to the complainant). It's also true that the OP having expressed their perspective in a "civilized tone and neutral argument" provides zero defense against the charge. Clear, direct answers to the questions as asked are the OP's best bet (regardless of the outcome).

      – Upper_Case
      8 hours ago













    • Using “boys” to describe a young adult who is male is as offensive as referring to a young adult who is a female as a “girl”. How about “Mr.” and “Ms.” when referring to your coworkers in a courtroom?

      – Ramhound
      4 hours ago
















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    What do I say in this open court hearing in order to save my
    reputation and keep my current job.




    You simply answer all questions fully and honestly, and give your side of the story.



    There's not much else you can do here.




    I have a court hearing at the end of this working week where I will
    discuss with my rival contemporary who at this point remains anonymous
    but I highly suspect is the girl who sits across from me the issues
    pertaining to the alleged "sexist comments" directed toward this
    anonymous female who felt offended.




    Try not to make such assumptions/accusations. They won't be helpful to you during this session.



    Just deal with whatever is actually asked or presented without speculation.






    share|improve this answer





















    • 4





      And when you do respond, use the term 'woman' instead of 'girl' or 'female'. Unless you usually refer to men as 'boys' and 'males'.

      – thursdaysgeek
      8 hours ago






    • 3





      The words without speculation should be emphasized. The question is riddled with pre-emptive defensive content based on things the OP assumes are most likely to have happened (including the guess as to the complainant). It's also true that the OP having expressed their perspective in a "civilized tone and neutral argument" provides zero defense against the charge. Clear, direct answers to the questions as asked are the OP's best bet (regardless of the outcome).

      – Upper_Case
      8 hours ago













    • Using “boys” to describe a young adult who is male is as offensive as referring to a young adult who is a female as a “girl”. How about “Mr.” and “Ms.” when referring to your coworkers in a courtroom?

      – Ramhound
      4 hours ago














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    What do I say in this open court hearing in order to save my
    reputation and keep my current job.




    You simply answer all questions fully and honestly, and give your side of the story.



    There's not much else you can do here.




    I have a court hearing at the end of this working week where I will
    discuss with my rival contemporary who at this point remains anonymous
    but I highly suspect is the girl who sits across from me the issues
    pertaining to the alleged "sexist comments" directed toward this
    anonymous female who felt offended.




    Try not to make such assumptions/accusations. They won't be helpful to you during this session.



    Just deal with whatever is actually asked or presented without speculation.






    share|improve this answer
















    What do I say in this open court hearing in order to save my
    reputation and keep my current job.




    You simply answer all questions fully and honestly, and give your side of the story.



    There's not much else you can do here.




    I have a court hearing at the end of this working week where I will
    discuss with my rival contemporary who at this point remains anonymous
    but I highly suspect is the girl who sits across from me the issues
    pertaining to the alleged "sexist comments" directed toward this
    anonymous female who felt offended.




    Try not to make such assumptions/accusations. They won't be helpful to you during this session.



    Just deal with whatever is actually asked or presented without speculation.







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    • 4





      And when you do respond, use the term 'woman' instead of 'girl' or 'female'. Unless you usually refer to men as 'boys' and 'males'.

      – thursdaysgeek
      8 hours ago






    • 3





      The words without speculation should be emphasized. The question is riddled with pre-emptive defensive content based on things the OP assumes are most likely to have happened (including the guess as to the complainant). It's also true that the OP having expressed their perspective in a "civilized tone and neutral argument" provides zero defense against the charge. Clear, direct answers to the questions as asked are the OP's best bet (regardless of the outcome).

      – Upper_Case
      8 hours ago













    • Using “boys” to describe a young adult who is male is as offensive as referring to a young adult who is a female as a “girl”. How about “Mr.” and “Ms.” when referring to your coworkers in a courtroom?

      – Ramhound
      4 hours ago














    • 4





      And when you do respond, use the term 'woman' instead of 'girl' or 'female'. Unless you usually refer to men as 'boys' and 'males'.

      – thursdaysgeek
      8 hours ago






    • 3





      The words without speculation should be emphasized. The question is riddled with pre-emptive defensive content based on things the OP assumes are most likely to have happened (including the guess as to the complainant). It's also true that the OP having expressed their perspective in a "civilized tone and neutral argument" provides zero defense against the charge. Clear, direct answers to the questions as asked are the OP's best bet (regardless of the outcome).

      – Upper_Case
      8 hours ago













    • Using “boys” to describe a young adult who is male is as offensive as referring to a young adult who is a female as a “girl”. How about “Mr.” and “Ms.” when referring to your coworkers in a courtroom?

      – Ramhound
      4 hours ago








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    And when you do respond, use the term 'woman' instead of 'girl' or 'female'. Unless you usually refer to men as 'boys' and 'males'.

    – thursdaysgeek
    8 hours ago





    And when you do respond, use the term 'woman' instead of 'girl' or 'female'. Unless you usually refer to men as 'boys' and 'males'.

    – thursdaysgeek
    8 hours ago




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    3





    The words without speculation should be emphasized. The question is riddled with pre-emptive defensive content based on things the OP assumes are most likely to have happened (including the guess as to the complainant). It's also true that the OP having expressed their perspective in a "civilized tone and neutral argument" provides zero defense against the charge. Clear, direct answers to the questions as asked are the OP's best bet (regardless of the outcome).

    – Upper_Case
    8 hours ago







    The words without speculation should be emphasized. The question is riddled with pre-emptive defensive content based on things the OP assumes are most likely to have happened (including the guess as to the complainant). It's also true that the OP having expressed their perspective in a "civilized tone and neutral argument" provides zero defense against the charge. Clear, direct answers to the questions as asked are the OP's best bet (regardless of the outcome).

    – Upper_Case
    8 hours ago















    Using “boys” to describe a young adult who is male is as offensive as referring to a young adult who is a female as a “girl”. How about “Mr.” and “Ms.” when referring to your coworkers in a courtroom?

    – Ramhound
    4 hours ago





    Using “boys” to describe a young adult who is male is as offensive as referring to a young adult who is a female as a “girl”. How about “Mr.” and “Ms.” when referring to your coworkers in a courtroom?

    – Ramhound
    4 hours ago













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    I do admit I did make subtle remarks on the status quo of females in
    the workplace.




    The first lesson is to not discuss topics of gender, race, religion, politics, ethnicity, etc. If you don't engage in these conversations then you are removing any possibility of your receiving any repercussions of these types of conversations.



    As to what you should do in your hearing, as Joe stated in his answer, answer any and all questions honestly and sincerely.



    Leave your personal issue with your peer out of it. Take accountability for your actions. Even if your peer was the one who reported this, you've admitted to making some statements... so own up to them.






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      I do admit I did make subtle remarks on the status quo of females in
      the workplace.




      The first lesson is to not discuss topics of gender, race, religion, politics, ethnicity, etc. If you don't engage in these conversations then you are removing any possibility of your receiving any repercussions of these types of conversations.



      As to what you should do in your hearing, as Joe stated in his answer, answer any and all questions honestly and sincerely.



      Leave your personal issue with your peer out of it. Take accountability for your actions. Even if your peer was the one who reported this, you've admitted to making some statements... so own up to them.






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        5








        I do admit I did make subtle remarks on the status quo of females in
        the workplace.




        The first lesson is to not discuss topics of gender, race, religion, politics, ethnicity, etc. If you don't engage in these conversations then you are removing any possibility of your receiving any repercussions of these types of conversations.



        As to what you should do in your hearing, as Joe stated in his answer, answer any and all questions honestly and sincerely.



        Leave your personal issue with your peer out of it. Take accountability for your actions. Even if your peer was the one who reported this, you've admitted to making some statements... so own up to them.






        share|improve this answer














        I do admit I did make subtle remarks on the status quo of females in
        the workplace.




        The first lesson is to not discuss topics of gender, race, religion, politics, ethnicity, etc. If you don't engage in these conversations then you are removing any possibility of your receiving any repercussions of these types of conversations.



        As to what you should do in your hearing, as Joe stated in his answer, answer any and all questions honestly and sincerely.



        Leave your personal issue with your peer out of it. Take accountability for your actions. Even if your peer was the one who reported this, you've admitted to making some statements... so own up to them.







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