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Find the equation and height of an elliptical whispering room
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The room is 150 feet long and the distance from the center of the room to the foci is 60 feet.
Finding $a^2$ is easy its
$$2a=150$$
$$a=75$$
$$a^2=5625$$
but where I get lost is finding $b^2$, I know I shouldn't look at the answer before solving but I was stuck for 10 mins. trying to figure it out.
Anyway $b=45$ and I have no idea how to calucate that because what am I suppose to use the $60$ feet from the foci for?
I thought it was
$$2b=60$$
$$b=30$$
$$b^2=900$$
but that doesn't work, then I thought it should be
$$2b=120$$
$$b=60$$
$$b^2=3600$$
and again I get stuck.
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The room is 150 feet long and the distance from the center of the room to the foci is 60 feet.
Finding $a^2$ is easy its
$$2a=150$$
$$a=75$$
$$a^2=5625$$
but where I get lost is finding $b^2$, I know I shouldn't look at the answer before solving but I was stuck for 10 mins. trying to figure it out.
Anyway $b=45$ and I have no idea how to calucate that because what am I suppose to use the $60$ feet from the foci for?
I thought it was
$$2b=60$$
$$b=30$$
$$b^2=900$$
but that doesn't work, then I thought it should be
$$2b=120$$
$$b=60$$
$$b^2=3600$$
and again I get stuck.
conic-sections elliptic-curves
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$begingroup$
The room is 150 feet long and the distance from the center of the room to the foci is 60 feet.
Finding $a^2$ is easy its
$$2a=150$$
$$a=75$$
$$a^2=5625$$
but where I get lost is finding $b^2$, I know I shouldn't look at the answer before solving but I was stuck for 10 mins. trying to figure it out.
Anyway $b=45$ and I have no idea how to calucate that because what am I suppose to use the $60$ feet from the foci for?
I thought it was
$$2b=60$$
$$b=30$$
$$b^2=900$$
but that doesn't work, then I thought it should be
$$2b=120$$
$$b=60$$
$$b^2=3600$$
and again I get stuck.
conic-sections elliptic-curves
$endgroup$
The room is 150 feet long and the distance from the center of the room to the foci is 60 feet.
Finding $a^2$ is easy its
$$2a=150$$
$$a=75$$
$$a^2=5625$$
but where I get lost is finding $b^2$, I know I shouldn't look at the answer before solving but I was stuck for 10 mins. trying to figure it out.
Anyway $b=45$ and I have no idea how to calucate that because what am I suppose to use the $60$ feet from the foci for?
I thought it was
$$2b=60$$
$$b=30$$
$$b^2=900$$
but that doesn't work, then I thought it should be
$$2b=120$$
$$b=60$$
$$b^2=3600$$
and again I get stuck.
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Consider this sketch

We know
$BF_1+BF_2= AF_1+AF_2 = 2AO = 150$ as this is an ellipse with a fixed combined distance from the foci to a point on the edge
and that $OF_1=OF_2=60$
so $OA^2 =75^2$ as you found
while $OB^2 = 75^2-60^2 = 45^2$ by Pythagoras
so the height (or width?) is $2OB=90$
and the equation of the room might be $dfrac{x^2}{75^2}+dfrac{y^2}{45^2}=1$
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You can use $c^2=a^2-b^2$, so $b=sqrt{a^2-c^2}=sqrt{75^2-60^2}=15sqrt{5^2-4^2}=15cdot3=45$
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It is simple, just you need to know more about ellipse. In ellipse, the distance of centre from focus is $ae$, where $e=sqrt{1-(frac b a)^2}$. Now it is easy.
e is called eccentricity of the ellipse.
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$begingroup$
Consider this sketch

We know
$BF_1+BF_2= AF_1+AF_2 = 2AO = 150$ as this is an ellipse with a fixed combined distance from the foci to a point on the edge
and that $OF_1=OF_2=60$
so $OA^2 =75^2$ as you found
while $OB^2 = 75^2-60^2 = 45^2$ by Pythagoras
so the height (or width?) is $2OB=90$
and the equation of the room might be $dfrac{x^2}{75^2}+dfrac{y^2}{45^2}=1$
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$begingroup$
Consider this sketch

We know
$BF_1+BF_2= AF_1+AF_2 = 2AO = 150$ as this is an ellipse with a fixed combined distance from the foci to a point on the edge
and that $OF_1=OF_2=60$
so $OA^2 =75^2$ as you found
while $OB^2 = 75^2-60^2 = 45^2$ by Pythagoras
so the height (or width?) is $2OB=90$
and the equation of the room might be $dfrac{x^2}{75^2}+dfrac{y^2}{45^2}=1$
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$begingroup$
Consider this sketch

We know
$BF_1+BF_2= AF_1+AF_2 = 2AO = 150$ as this is an ellipse with a fixed combined distance from the foci to a point on the edge
and that $OF_1=OF_2=60$
so $OA^2 =75^2$ as you found
while $OB^2 = 75^2-60^2 = 45^2$ by Pythagoras
so the height (or width?) is $2OB=90$
and the equation of the room might be $dfrac{x^2}{75^2}+dfrac{y^2}{45^2}=1$
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Consider this sketch

We know
$BF_1+BF_2= AF_1+AF_2 = 2AO = 150$ as this is an ellipse with a fixed combined distance from the foci to a point on the edge
and that $OF_1=OF_2=60$
so $OA^2 =75^2$ as you found
while $OB^2 = 75^2-60^2 = 45^2$ by Pythagoras
so the height (or width?) is $2OB=90$
and the equation of the room might be $dfrac{x^2}{75^2}+dfrac{y^2}{45^2}=1$
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You can use $c^2=a^2-b^2$, so $b=sqrt{a^2-c^2}=sqrt{75^2-60^2}=15sqrt{5^2-4^2}=15cdot3=45$
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You can use $c^2=a^2-b^2$, so $b=sqrt{a^2-c^2}=sqrt{75^2-60^2}=15sqrt{5^2-4^2}=15cdot3=45$
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You can use $c^2=a^2-b^2$, so $b=sqrt{a^2-c^2}=sqrt{75^2-60^2}=15sqrt{5^2-4^2}=15cdot3=45$
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You can use $c^2=a^2-b^2$, so $b=sqrt{a^2-c^2}=sqrt{75^2-60^2}=15sqrt{5^2-4^2}=15cdot3=45$
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It is simple, just you need to know more about ellipse. In ellipse, the distance of centre from focus is $ae$, where $e=sqrt{1-(frac b a)^2}$. Now it is easy.
e is called eccentricity of the ellipse.
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It is simple, just you need to know more about ellipse. In ellipse, the distance of centre from focus is $ae$, where $e=sqrt{1-(frac b a)^2}$. Now it is easy.
e is called eccentricity of the ellipse.
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It is simple, just you need to know more about ellipse. In ellipse, the distance of centre from focus is $ae$, where $e=sqrt{1-(frac b a)^2}$. Now it is easy.
e is called eccentricity of the ellipse.
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It is simple, just you need to know more about ellipse. In ellipse, the distance of centre from focus is $ae$, where $e=sqrt{1-(frac b a)^2}$. Now it is easy.
e is called eccentricity of the ellipse.
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