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So, we observe that galaxies are moving apart (on average) and the further away from us they are the faster they are moving away from us. If space was expanding that would explain this.
However, I imagine that if a primordial explosion happened then at some point close to where the explosion happened things would not move much, and they would be moving faster the further away you were from "ground zero".
But if we were not near ground zero there should be some anisotropy in the speeds we observe, is that correct? There should be a "ground zero" in the "explosion model", right??
However, regardless of the "ground zero" issue, do we (or could we) distinguish between a uniform "explosion" model and the idea that space is expanding?
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So, we observe that galaxies are moving apart (on average) and the further away from us they are the faster they are moving away from us. If space was expanding that would explain this.
However, I imagine that if a primordial explosion happened then at some point close to where the explosion happened things would not move much, and they would be moving faster the further away you were from "ground zero".
But if we were not near ground zero there should be some anisotropy in the speeds we observe, is that correct? There should be a "ground zero" in the "explosion model", right??
However, regardless of the "ground zero" issue, do we (or could we) distinguish between a uniform "explosion" model and the idea that space is expanding?
general-relativity astronomy
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So, we observe that galaxies are moving apart (on average) and the further away from us they are the faster they are moving away from us. If space was expanding that would explain this.
However, I imagine that if a primordial explosion happened then at some point close to where the explosion happened things would not move much, and they would be moving faster the further away you were from "ground zero".
But if we were not near ground zero there should be some anisotropy in the speeds we observe, is that correct? There should be a "ground zero" in the "explosion model", right??
However, regardless of the "ground zero" issue, do we (or could we) distinguish between a uniform "explosion" model and the idea that space is expanding?
general-relativity astronomy
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So, we observe that galaxies are moving apart (on average) and the further away from us they are the faster they are moving away from us. If space was expanding that would explain this.
However, I imagine that if a primordial explosion happened then at some point close to where the explosion happened things would not move much, and they would be moving faster the further away you were from "ground zero".
But if we were not near ground zero there should be some anisotropy in the speeds we observe, is that correct? There should be a "ground zero" in the "explosion model", right??
However, regardless of the "ground zero" issue, do we (or could we) distinguish between a uniform "explosion" model and the idea that space is expanding?
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It is a misconception that the big bang happened at a point. It did not. There is no ground zero point (in space) where you could point and say, this is where the explosion happened. Space is expanding everywhere at the same rate, and everything is getting farther away from everything.
Now this is not completely true, because galaxies are getting usually farther away from each other, because in the intergalactic space, expansion is dominant.
But inside galaxies, gravity dominates, so space does not expand inside galaxies.
So on the bigger scale, between the intergalactic voids of space, where expansion dominates space itself is expanding, and this expansion seems to be accelerating. Now an explosion as you say could not do this, because to have an ever accelerating expansion you need more and more energy (whatever is causing expansion, like dark energy or negative density). An explosion cannot do that.
So the big bang did not happen at a point in space, but it happened everywhere at the same time.
There is no center of the universe or as you say a ground zero point.
The universe is not like a ball expanding, there is nothing outside the universe that it is expanding into.
Please see here:
Did the Big Bang happen at a point?
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Got it - that the expansion seems to be accelerating seems very key to me
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It is a misconception that the big bang happened at a point. It did not. There is no ground zero point (in space) where you could point and say, this is where the explosion happened. Space is expanding everywhere at the same rate, and everything is getting farther away from everything.
Now this is not completely true, because galaxies are getting usually farther away from each other, because in the intergalactic space, expansion is dominant.
But inside galaxies, gravity dominates, so space does not expand inside galaxies.
So on the bigger scale, between the intergalactic voids of space, where expansion dominates space itself is expanding, and this expansion seems to be accelerating. Now an explosion as you say could not do this, because to have an ever accelerating expansion you need more and more energy (whatever is causing expansion, like dark energy or negative density). An explosion cannot do that.
So the big bang did not happen at a point in space, but it happened everywhere at the same time.
There is no center of the universe or as you say a ground zero point.
The universe is not like a ball expanding, there is nothing outside the universe that it is expanding into.
Please see here:
Did the Big Bang happen at a point?
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Got it - that the expansion seems to be accelerating seems very key to me
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– Paul Young
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It is a misconception that the big bang happened at a point. It did not. There is no ground zero point (in space) where you could point and say, this is where the explosion happened. Space is expanding everywhere at the same rate, and everything is getting farther away from everything.
Now this is not completely true, because galaxies are getting usually farther away from each other, because in the intergalactic space, expansion is dominant.
But inside galaxies, gravity dominates, so space does not expand inside galaxies.
So on the bigger scale, between the intergalactic voids of space, where expansion dominates space itself is expanding, and this expansion seems to be accelerating. Now an explosion as you say could not do this, because to have an ever accelerating expansion you need more and more energy (whatever is causing expansion, like dark energy or negative density). An explosion cannot do that.
So the big bang did not happen at a point in space, but it happened everywhere at the same time.
There is no center of the universe or as you say a ground zero point.
The universe is not like a ball expanding, there is nothing outside the universe that it is expanding into.
Please see here:
Did the Big Bang happen at a point?
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Got it - that the expansion seems to be accelerating seems very key to me
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– Paul Young
3 hours ago
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It is a misconception that the big bang happened at a point. It did not. There is no ground zero point (in space) where you could point and say, this is where the explosion happened. Space is expanding everywhere at the same rate, and everything is getting farther away from everything.
Now this is not completely true, because galaxies are getting usually farther away from each other, because in the intergalactic space, expansion is dominant.
But inside galaxies, gravity dominates, so space does not expand inside galaxies.
So on the bigger scale, between the intergalactic voids of space, where expansion dominates space itself is expanding, and this expansion seems to be accelerating. Now an explosion as you say could not do this, because to have an ever accelerating expansion you need more and more energy (whatever is causing expansion, like dark energy or negative density). An explosion cannot do that.
So the big bang did not happen at a point in space, but it happened everywhere at the same time.
There is no center of the universe or as you say a ground zero point.
The universe is not like a ball expanding, there is nothing outside the universe that it is expanding into.
Please see here:
Did the Big Bang happen at a point?
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It is a misconception that the big bang happened at a point. It did not. There is no ground zero point (in space) where you could point and say, this is where the explosion happened. Space is expanding everywhere at the same rate, and everything is getting farther away from everything.
Now this is not completely true, because galaxies are getting usually farther away from each other, because in the intergalactic space, expansion is dominant.
But inside galaxies, gravity dominates, so space does not expand inside galaxies.
So on the bigger scale, between the intergalactic voids of space, where expansion dominates space itself is expanding, and this expansion seems to be accelerating. Now an explosion as you say could not do this, because to have an ever accelerating expansion you need more and more energy (whatever is causing expansion, like dark energy or negative density). An explosion cannot do that.
So the big bang did not happen at a point in space, but it happened everywhere at the same time.
There is no center of the universe or as you say a ground zero point.
The universe is not like a ball expanding, there is nothing outside the universe that it is expanding into.
Please see here:
Did the Big Bang happen at a point?
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Got it - that the expansion seems to be accelerating seems very key to me
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Got it - that the expansion seems to be accelerating seems very key to me
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