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Told to apply for UK visa before other visas, on UK-Spain-etc. visit


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My mother, a South African citizen, will be travelling later this year to the UK, Spain, Isle of man and possibly other destinations for a bit of a holiday. She will be traveling on a South African passport.



When talking to a travel agent they advised her to apply for the UK visa first, before applying for the others. Why is this?










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    As a general rule, it's best to apply for visas in reverse order of the travel itinerary, because many countries require you to prove you can depart their country and enter the next country.

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My mother, a South African citizen, will be travelling later this year to the UK, Spain, Isle of man and possibly other destinations for a bit of a holiday. She will be traveling on a South African passport.



When talking to a travel agent they advised her to apply for the UK visa first, before applying for the others. Why is this?










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    – Michael Hampton
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My mother, a South African citizen, will be travelling later this year to the UK, Spain, Isle of man and possibly other destinations for a bit of a holiday. She will be traveling on a South African passport.



When talking to a travel agent they advised her to apply for the UK visa first, before applying for the others. Why is this?










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My mother, a South African citizen, will be travelling later this year to the UK, Spain, Isle of man and possibly other destinations for a bit of a holiday. She will be traveling on a South African passport.



When talking to a travel agent they advised her to apply for the UK visa first, before applying for the others. Why is this?







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  • Did she ask the travel agent?

    – Laconic Droid
    8 hours ago











  • I asked her the same thing, she was over loaded with information and never got around to asking for clarification

    – BossRoss
    8 hours ago






  • 4





    As a general rule, it's best to apply for visas in reverse order of the travel itinerary, because many countries require you to prove you can depart their country and enter the next country.

    – Michael Hampton
    6 hours ago



















  • Did she ask the travel agent?

    – Laconic Droid
    8 hours ago











  • I asked her the same thing, she was over loaded with information and never got around to asking for clarification

    – BossRoss
    8 hours ago






  • 4





    As a general rule, it's best to apply for visas in reverse order of the travel itinerary, because many countries require you to prove you can depart their country and enter the next country.

    – Michael Hampton
    6 hours ago

















Did she ask the travel agent?

– Laconic Droid
8 hours ago





Did she ask the travel agent?

– Laconic Droid
8 hours ago













I asked her the same thing, she was over loaded with information and never got around to asking for clarification

– BossRoss
8 hours ago





I asked her the same thing, she was over loaded with information and never got around to asking for clarification

– BossRoss
8 hours ago




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4





As a general rule, it's best to apply for visas in reverse order of the travel itinerary, because many countries require you to prove you can depart their country and enter the next country.

– Michael Hampton
6 hours ago





As a general rule, it's best to apply for visas in reverse order of the travel itinerary, because many countries require you to prove you can depart their country and enter the next country.

– Michael Hampton
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Some countries require visa applicants to show proof that they've already bought flight tickets etc. for the entire trip by the time they apply for a visa. I'm not sure whether Spain is one of them, but we have anecdotal evidence that some Schengen countries do -- or at least some consulates of some Schengen members do.



On the other hand the UK explicitly don't want to see flight tickets and paid-for hotel bookings. They recommend not to spend any money before you know you have a visa.



This means that if your mother is the tiniest bit unsure whether she will qualify for visas, applying to the UK first gives her maximal flexibility to adapt her travel plans to whether or not she can go there, when she later applies elsewhere.



In contrast, if she starts by applying to somewhere that requires all of the tickets to be present, she'll need to lock in her choice to go to the UK or not already at that time, before she knows if she can get a British visa.





Also:



If I remember correctly, the UK visa application asks you if you have ever been refused a visa to anywhere, whereas the harmonized Schengen application form doesn't. So if your mother happens to get a refusal from the UK first, she can get a reasonably fresh view of her application from Spain later on. But if she applies to Spain first and is refused there, she would have to disclose that something's up when she applies to the UK later, possibly resulting in tighter scrutiny of her circumstances.






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    One possibility:



    Some countries require visa applicants to show proof that they've already bought flight tickets etc. for the entire trip by the time they apply for a visa. I'm not sure whether Spain is one of them, but we have anecdotal evidence that some Schengen countries do -- or at least some consulates of some Schengen members do.



    On the other hand the UK explicitly don't want to see flight tickets and paid-for hotel bookings. They recommend not to spend any money before you know you have a visa.



    This means that if your mother is the tiniest bit unsure whether she will qualify for visas, applying to the UK first gives her maximal flexibility to adapt her travel plans to whether or not she can go there, when she later applies elsewhere.



    In contrast, if she starts by applying to somewhere that requires all of the tickets to be present, she'll need to lock in her choice to go to the UK or not already at that time, before she knows if she can get a British visa.





    Also:



    If I remember correctly, the UK visa application asks you if you have ever been refused a visa to anywhere, whereas the harmonized Schengen application form doesn't. So if your mother happens to get a refusal from the UK first, she can get a reasonably fresh view of her application from Spain later on. But if she applies to Spain first and is refused there, she would have to disclose that something's up when she applies to the UK later, possibly resulting in tighter scrutiny of her circumstances.






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      One possibility:



      Some countries require visa applicants to show proof that they've already bought flight tickets etc. for the entire trip by the time they apply for a visa. I'm not sure whether Spain is one of them, but we have anecdotal evidence that some Schengen countries do -- or at least some consulates of some Schengen members do.



      On the other hand the UK explicitly don't want to see flight tickets and paid-for hotel bookings. They recommend not to spend any money before you know you have a visa.



      This means that if your mother is the tiniest bit unsure whether she will qualify for visas, applying to the UK first gives her maximal flexibility to adapt her travel plans to whether or not she can go there, when she later applies elsewhere.



      In contrast, if she starts by applying to somewhere that requires all of the tickets to be present, she'll need to lock in her choice to go to the UK or not already at that time, before she knows if she can get a British visa.





      Also:



      If I remember correctly, the UK visa application asks you if you have ever been refused a visa to anywhere, whereas the harmonized Schengen application form doesn't. So if your mother happens to get a refusal from the UK first, she can get a reasonably fresh view of her application from Spain later on. But if she applies to Spain first and is refused there, she would have to disclose that something's up when she applies to the UK later, possibly resulting in tighter scrutiny of her circumstances.






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        One possibility:



        Some countries require visa applicants to show proof that they've already bought flight tickets etc. for the entire trip by the time they apply for a visa. I'm not sure whether Spain is one of them, but we have anecdotal evidence that some Schengen countries do -- or at least some consulates of some Schengen members do.



        On the other hand the UK explicitly don't want to see flight tickets and paid-for hotel bookings. They recommend not to spend any money before you know you have a visa.



        This means that if your mother is the tiniest bit unsure whether she will qualify for visas, applying to the UK first gives her maximal flexibility to adapt her travel plans to whether or not she can go there, when she later applies elsewhere.



        In contrast, if she starts by applying to somewhere that requires all of the tickets to be present, she'll need to lock in her choice to go to the UK or not already at that time, before she knows if she can get a British visa.





        Also:



        If I remember correctly, the UK visa application asks you if you have ever been refused a visa to anywhere, whereas the harmonized Schengen application form doesn't. So if your mother happens to get a refusal from the UK first, she can get a reasonably fresh view of her application from Spain later on. But if she applies to Spain first and is refused there, she would have to disclose that something's up when she applies to the UK later, possibly resulting in tighter scrutiny of her circumstances.






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        One possibility:



        Some countries require visa applicants to show proof that they've already bought flight tickets etc. for the entire trip by the time they apply for a visa. I'm not sure whether Spain is one of them, but we have anecdotal evidence that some Schengen countries do -- or at least some consulates of some Schengen members do.



        On the other hand the UK explicitly don't want to see flight tickets and paid-for hotel bookings. They recommend not to spend any money before you know you have a visa.



        This means that if your mother is the tiniest bit unsure whether she will qualify for visas, applying to the UK first gives her maximal flexibility to adapt her travel plans to whether or not she can go there, when she later applies elsewhere.



        In contrast, if she starts by applying to somewhere that requires all of the tickets to be present, she'll need to lock in her choice to go to the UK or not already at that time, before she knows if she can get a British visa.





        Also:



        If I remember correctly, the UK visa application asks you if you have ever been refused a visa to anywhere, whereas the harmonized Schengen application form doesn't. So if your mother happens to get a refusal from the UK first, she can get a reasonably fresh view of her application from Spain later on. But if she applies to Spain first and is refused there, she would have to disclose that something's up when she applies to the UK later, possibly resulting in tighter scrutiny of her circumstances.







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