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Is it possible to define a similar form of Argand's formula but for quaternions?



In the sense



$$ cos(nA)+icos(nB)+jcos(nC)+kcos(n) =(cos(A)+icos(B)+jcos(C)+kcos(D))^{n}, $$



where $A, B, C, D$ are the angles of the quaternion with respect the axes $x,y,z,t.$



Also for a quaternion why can you not define the 'numbers'



$ frac{i+j}{k} $ or $ i^{j+k} $ ... where the quaternion is defined in 4-dimensions as



$ a+ib+cj+dk =z? $










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Is it possible to define a similar form of Argand's formula but for quaternions?



In the sense



$$ cos(nA)+icos(nB)+jcos(nC)+kcos(n) =(cos(A)+icos(B)+jcos(C)+kcos(D))^{n}, $$



where $A, B, C, D$ are the angles of the quaternion with respect the axes $x,y,z,t.$



Also for a quaternion why can you not define the 'numbers'



$ frac{i+j}{k} $ or $ i^{j+k} $ ... where the quaternion is defined in 4-dimensions as



$ a+ib+cj+dk =z? $










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Is it possible to define a similar form of Argand's formula but for quaternions?



In the sense



$$ cos(nA)+icos(nB)+jcos(nC)+kcos(n) =(cos(A)+icos(B)+jcos(C)+kcos(D))^{n}, $$



where $A, B, C, D$ are the angles of the quaternion with respect the axes $x,y,z,t.$



Also for a quaternion why can you not define the 'numbers'



$ frac{i+j}{k} $ or $ i^{j+k} $ ... where the quaternion is defined in 4-dimensions as



$ a+ib+cj+dk =z? $










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Is it possible to define a similar form of Argand's formula but for quaternions?



In the sense



$$ cos(nA)+icos(nB)+jcos(nC)+kcos(n) =(cos(A)+icos(B)+jcos(C)+kcos(D))^{n}, $$



where $A, B, C, D$ are the angles of the quaternion with respect the axes $x,y,z,t.$



Also for a quaternion why can you not define the 'numbers'



$ frac{i+j}{k} $ or $ i^{j+k} $ ... where the quaternion is defined in 4-dimensions as



$ a+ib+cj+dk =z? $







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A unit quaternion can be written as
$$q=cos t+(bi+cj+dk)sin t$$
where $b^2+c^2+d^2=1$. Then
$$q^n=cos nt+(bi+cj+dk)sin nt.$$
This just follows from the usual complex case: there's an isomorphism between
$Bbb C$ and the subalgebra generated by $bi+cj+dk$, taking $i$ to
$bi+cj+dk$.






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    Since @LordSharktheUnknown discussed the trigonometry, I'll answer your later questions. Do you want $w:=z_1/z_2$ to satisfy $z_1=z_2w$ or $z_1=wz_2$? It matters, which is why we don't usually write such expressions as $frac{i+j}{k}$; you'd want to say $(i+j)k^{-1}$ or $k^{-1}(i+j)$ instead. (These are respectively $-ik-jk=ki-jk=j-i,,i-j$.) That quaternions don't commute also introduces problems with defining exponentiation. Do we want $z_1^{z_2}$ to mean $exp(z_2ln z_1)$ or $exp((ln z_1)z_2)$?






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      A unit quaternion can be written as
      $$q=cos t+(bi+cj+dk)sin t$$
      where $b^2+c^2+d^2=1$. Then
      $$q^n=cos nt+(bi+cj+dk)sin nt.$$
      This just follows from the usual complex case: there's an isomorphism between
      $Bbb C$ and the subalgebra generated by $bi+cj+dk$, taking $i$ to
      $bi+cj+dk$.






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        A unit quaternion can be written as
        $$q=cos t+(bi+cj+dk)sin t$$
        where $b^2+c^2+d^2=1$. Then
        $$q^n=cos nt+(bi+cj+dk)sin nt.$$
        This just follows from the usual complex case: there's an isomorphism between
        $Bbb C$ and the subalgebra generated by $bi+cj+dk$, taking $i$ to
        $bi+cj+dk$.






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          A unit quaternion can be written as
          $$q=cos t+(bi+cj+dk)sin t$$
          where $b^2+c^2+d^2=1$. Then
          $$q^n=cos nt+(bi+cj+dk)sin nt.$$
          This just follows from the usual complex case: there's an isomorphism between
          $Bbb C$ and the subalgebra generated by $bi+cj+dk$, taking $i$ to
          $bi+cj+dk$.






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          A unit quaternion can be written as
          $$q=cos t+(bi+cj+dk)sin t$$
          where $b^2+c^2+d^2=1$. Then
          $$q^n=cos nt+(bi+cj+dk)sin nt.$$
          This just follows from the usual complex case: there's an isomorphism between
          $Bbb C$ and the subalgebra generated by $bi+cj+dk$, taking $i$ to
          $bi+cj+dk$.







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              Since @LordSharktheUnknown discussed the trigonometry, I'll answer your later questions. Do you want $w:=z_1/z_2$ to satisfy $z_1=z_2w$ or $z_1=wz_2$? It matters, which is why we don't usually write such expressions as $frac{i+j}{k}$; you'd want to say $(i+j)k^{-1}$ or $k^{-1}(i+j)$ instead. (These are respectively $-ik-jk=ki-jk=j-i,,i-j$.) That quaternions don't commute also introduces problems with defining exponentiation. Do we want $z_1^{z_2}$ to mean $exp(z_2ln z_1)$ or $exp((ln z_1)z_2)$?






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                Since @LordSharktheUnknown discussed the trigonometry, I'll answer your later questions. Do you want $w:=z_1/z_2$ to satisfy $z_1=z_2w$ or $z_1=wz_2$? It matters, which is why we don't usually write such expressions as $frac{i+j}{k}$; you'd want to say $(i+j)k^{-1}$ or $k^{-1}(i+j)$ instead. (These are respectively $-ik-jk=ki-jk=j-i,,i-j$.) That quaternions don't commute also introduces problems with defining exponentiation. Do we want $z_1^{z_2}$ to mean $exp(z_2ln z_1)$ or $exp((ln z_1)z_2)$?






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                  Since @LordSharktheUnknown discussed the trigonometry, I'll answer your later questions. Do you want $w:=z_1/z_2$ to satisfy $z_1=z_2w$ or $z_1=wz_2$? It matters, which is why we don't usually write such expressions as $frac{i+j}{k}$; you'd want to say $(i+j)k^{-1}$ or $k^{-1}(i+j)$ instead. (These are respectively $-ik-jk=ki-jk=j-i,,i-j$.) That quaternions don't commute also introduces problems with defining exponentiation. Do we want $z_1^{z_2}$ to mean $exp(z_2ln z_1)$ or $exp((ln z_1)z_2)$?






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