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Is it possible to define a similar form of Argand's formula but for quaternions?
In the sense
$$ cos(nA)+icos(nB)+jcos(nC)+kcos(n) =(cos(A)+icos(B)+jcos(C)+kcos(D))^{n}, $$
where $A, B, C, D$ are the angles of the quaternion with respect the axes $x,y,z,t.$
Also for a quaternion why can you not define the 'numbers'
$ frac{i+j}{k} $ or $ i^{j+k} $ ... where the quaternion is defined in 4-dimensions as
$ a+ib+cj+dk =z? $
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Is it possible to define a similar form of Argand's formula but for quaternions?
In the sense
$$ cos(nA)+icos(nB)+jcos(nC)+kcos(n) =(cos(A)+icos(B)+jcos(C)+kcos(D))^{n}, $$
where $A, B, C, D$ are the angles of the quaternion with respect the axes $x,y,z,t.$
Also for a quaternion why can you not define the 'numbers'
$ frac{i+j}{k} $ or $ i^{j+k} $ ... where the quaternion is defined in 4-dimensions as
$ a+ib+cj+dk =z? $
quaternions
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Are you missing a $D$ on the LHS?
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Is it possible to define a similar form of Argand's formula but for quaternions?
In the sense
$$ cos(nA)+icos(nB)+jcos(nC)+kcos(n) =(cos(A)+icos(B)+jcos(C)+kcos(D))^{n}, $$
where $A, B, C, D$ are the angles of the quaternion with respect the axes $x,y,z,t.$
Also for a quaternion why can you not define the 'numbers'
$ frac{i+j}{k} $ or $ i^{j+k} $ ... where the quaternion is defined in 4-dimensions as
$ a+ib+cj+dk =z? $
quaternions
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Is it possible to define a similar form of Argand's formula but for quaternions?
In the sense
$$ cos(nA)+icos(nB)+jcos(nC)+kcos(n) =(cos(A)+icos(B)+jcos(C)+kcos(D))^{n}, $$
where $A, B, C, D$ are the angles of the quaternion with respect the axes $x,y,z,t.$
Also for a quaternion why can you not define the 'numbers'
$ frac{i+j}{k} $ or $ i^{j+k} $ ... where the quaternion is defined in 4-dimensions as
$ a+ib+cj+dk =z? $
quaternions
quaternions
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A unit quaternion can be written as
$$q=cos t+(bi+cj+dk)sin t$$
where $b^2+c^2+d^2=1$. Then
$$q^n=cos nt+(bi+cj+dk)sin nt.$$
This just follows from the usual complex case: there's an isomorphism between
$Bbb C$ and the subalgebra generated by $bi+cj+dk$, taking $i$ to
$bi+cj+dk$.
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Since @LordSharktheUnknown discussed the trigonometry, I'll answer your later questions. Do you want $w:=z_1/z_2$ to satisfy $z_1=z_2w$ or $z_1=wz_2$? It matters, which is why we don't usually write such expressions as $frac{i+j}{k}$; you'd want to say $(i+j)k^{-1}$ or $k^{-1}(i+j)$ instead. (These are respectively $-ik-jk=ki-jk=j-i,,i-j$.) That quaternions don't commute also introduces problems with defining exponentiation. Do we want $z_1^{z_2}$ to mean $exp(z_2ln z_1)$ or $exp((ln z_1)z_2)$?
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A unit quaternion can be written as
$$q=cos t+(bi+cj+dk)sin t$$
where $b^2+c^2+d^2=1$. Then
$$q^n=cos nt+(bi+cj+dk)sin nt.$$
This just follows from the usual complex case: there's an isomorphism between
$Bbb C$ and the subalgebra generated by $bi+cj+dk$, taking $i$ to
$bi+cj+dk$.
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A unit quaternion can be written as
$$q=cos t+(bi+cj+dk)sin t$$
where $b^2+c^2+d^2=1$. Then
$$q^n=cos nt+(bi+cj+dk)sin nt.$$
This just follows from the usual complex case: there's an isomorphism between
$Bbb C$ and the subalgebra generated by $bi+cj+dk$, taking $i$ to
$bi+cj+dk$.
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
A unit quaternion can be written as
$$q=cos t+(bi+cj+dk)sin t$$
where $b^2+c^2+d^2=1$. Then
$$q^n=cos nt+(bi+cj+dk)sin nt.$$
This just follows from the usual complex case: there's an isomorphism between
$Bbb C$ and the subalgebra generated by $bi+cj+dk$, taking $i$ to
$bi+cj+dk$.
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A unit quaternion can be written as
$$q=cos t+(bi+cj+dk)sin t$$
where $b^2+c^2+d^2=1$. Then
$$q^n=cos nt+(bi+cj+dk)sin nt.$$
This just follows from the usual complex case: there's an isomorphism between
$Bbb C$ and the subalgebra generated by $bi+cj+dk$, taking $i$ to
$bi+cj+dk$.
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Since @LordSharktheUnknown discussed the trigonometry, I'll answer your later questions. Do you want $w:=z_1/z_2$ to satisfy $z_1=z_2w$ or $z_1=wz_2$? It matters, which is why we don't usually write such expressions as $frac{i+j}{k}$; you'd want to say $(i+j)k^{-1}$ or $k^{-1}(i+j)$ instead. (These are respectively $-ik-jk=ki-jk=j-i,,i-j$.) That quaternions don't commute also introduces problems with defining exponentiation. Do we want $z_1^{z_2}$ to mean $exp(z_2ln z_1)$ or $exp((ln z_1)z_2)$?
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Since @LordSharktheUnknown discussed the trigonometry, I'll answer your later questions. Do you want $w:=z_1/z_2$ to satisfy $z_1=z_2w$ or $z_1=wz_2$? It matters, which is why we don't usually write such expressions as $frac{i+j}{k}$; you'd want to say $(i+j)k^{-1}$ or $k^{-1}(i+j)$ instead. (These are respectively $-ik-jk=ki-jk=j-i,,i-j$.) That quaternions don't commute also introduces problems with defining exponentiation. Do we want $z_1^{z_2}$ to mean $exp(z_2ln z_1)$ or $exp((ln z_1)z_2)$?
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Since @LordSharktheUnknown discussed the trigonometry, I'll answer your later questions. Do you want $w:=z_1/z_2$ to satisfy $z_1=z_2w$ or $z_1=wz_2$? It matters, which is why we don't usually write such expressions as $frac{i+j}{k}$; you'd want to say $(i+j)k^{-1}$ or $k^{-1}(i+j)$ instead. (These are respectively $-ik-jk=ki-jk=j-i,,i-j$.) That quaternions don't commute also introduces problems with defining exponentiation. Do we want $z_1^{z_2}$ to mean $exp(z_2ln z_1)$ or $exp((ln z_1)z_2)$?
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Since @LordSharktheUnknown discussed the trigonometry, I'll answer your later questions. Do you want $w:=z_1/z_2$ to satisfy $z_1=z_2w$ or $z_1=wz_2$? It matters, which is why we don't usually write such expressions as $frac{i+j}{k}$; you'd want to say $(i+j)k^{-1}$ or $k^{-1}(i+j)$ instead. (These are respectively $-ik-jk=ki-jk=j-i,,i-j$.) That quaternions don't commute also introduces problems with defining exponentiation. Do we want $z_1^{z_2}$ to mean $exp(z_2ln z_1)$ or $exp((ln z_1)z_2)$?
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