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Why did the US Airways Flight 1549 passengers stay on the wings?


What are these hooks on the A320's wing used for?What and where are “flotation seat cushions”?How, exactly, did US1549 land on the Hudson?Which gas is used to fill the evacuation slides of modern aircraft?What risks come from passengers taking baggage during emergency evacuation?Aircraft Emergency Evacuation slide inflation system: Why is a mixture of CO2 & N2 used instead of pure N2?How is the emergency exit row handled when there are no passengers aboard eligible to sit in an exit row seat?Why evacuate wing at the front side after water landing?For routes over oceans, are slide rafts fitted with first-aid items, food, water, radio, etc?Is it a standard procedure to use emergency slides without imminent danger?How are disabled passengers evacuated during emergency?Where can I listen to the actual cockpit voice recorder audio from US Airways Flight 1549?






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          Because they were told to evacuate there, if you take a look at the official audio transcript from the accident:




          place both arms through the straps and hug it to your chest. flight
          attendants are pointing out there are a total of eight exits on this
          aircraft, two door exits in front of the aircraft, four window exits
          over the wings
          , and two door exits in the rear of the aircraft. once
          again, two door exits at the front of the aircraft, four window exits
          over the wings, and two door exits in the rear of the aircraft. each
          door is equipped with an evacuation slide if directed to exit... the
          aircraft jump onto the slide and move away from the aircraft.




          The rear exits were largely blocked by water making the forward exits the only ones with slides, those slides were utilized as evidenced by photos included in the report:
          Photo of passengers on wings after evacuation



          (source)



          With only half of the slides available the wings also had to be used. The wing slides are intended only for ground landings and do not double as rafts, as per the accident report




          According to TSO C-69c, Type IV is a combination inflatable exit ramp
          and wing-to-ground slide. The off-wing ramp/slides were intended to be
          used in the event of a ground, not a water, evacuation.




          As such the over wing slides could not be used in this case.






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            I wasn't aware that the overwing slides were not designed for water evacuation. Thanks!
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          Per the accident report from the NTSB, only the four exit slides (two at the forward doors and two at the aft doors) could be used as rafts, as the aircraft was configured for extended overwater operations (EOW). Regulations required there to be enough capacity for all passengers if the largest raft was not usable. Each slide/raft was rated for 44 passengers, or an overload of 55 passengers.



          During the ditching, the aft part of the cabin rapidly filled with water, preventing the use of the aft two exits and their slides. This meant that the remaining rafts could hold a maximum of 110 people if overloaded out of the 155 people on board the flight. That would leave at least 45 people on the wings.



          The report states that about 87 people were rescued outside the two rafts. Many passengers rushed to the overwing exits, creating a backup, and flight attendants had to ask passengers to come forward to the rafts. The overwing exits are not supposed to be used unless other exits aren't available. There are also life lines to help passengers when out on the wings, but these were not used. Since the flight attendants are located on either end of the plane they were too far away to advise the passengers about this.



          and the flight attendants at either end of the plane were too far away to stop them. There were also



          The report further discusses even the two rafts were not technically required (the flight was not an EOW route), and the remaining passengers were in danger of not surviving the cold water if they had not been rescued so quickly.






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            $begingroup$

            Because they were told to evacuate there, if you take a look at the official audio transcript from the accident:




            place both arms through the straps and hug it to your chest. flight
            attendants are pointing out there are a total of eight exits on this
            aircraft, two door exits in front of the aircraft, four window exits
            over the wings
            , and two door exits in the rear of the aircraft. once
            again, two door exits at the front of the aircraft, four window exits
            over the wings, and two door exits in the rear of the aircraft. each
            door is equipped with an evacuation slide if directed to exit... the
            aircraft jump onto the slide and move away from the aircraft.




            The rear exits were largely blocked by water making the forward exits the only ones with slides, those slides were utilized as evidenced by photos included in the report:
            Photo of passengers on wings after evacuation



            (source)



            With only half of the slides available the wings also had to be used. The wing slides are intended only for ground landings and do not double as rafts, as per the accident report




            According to TSO C-69c, Type IV is a combination inflatable exit ramp
            and wing-to-ground slide. The off-wing ramp/slides were intended to be
            used in the event of a ground, not a water, evacuation.




            As such the over wing slides could not be used in this case.






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              I wasn't aware that the overwing slides were not designed for water evacuation. Thanks!
              $endgroup$
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            $begingroup$

            Because they were told to evacuate there, if you take a look at the official audio transcript from the accident:




            place both arms through the straps and hug it to your chest. flight
            attendants are pointing out there are a total of eight exits on this
            aircraft, two door exits in front of the aircraft, four window exits
            over the wings
            , and two door exits in the rear of the aircraft. once
            again, two door exits at the front of the aircraft, four window exits
            over the wings, and two door exits in the rear of the aircraft. each
            door is equipped with an evacuation slide if directed to exit... the
            aircraft jump onto the slide and move away from the aircraft.




            The rear exits were largely blocked by water making the forward exits the only ones with slides, those slides were utilized as evidenced by photos included in the report:
            Photo of passengers on wings after evacuation



            (source)



            With only half of the slides available the wings also had to be used. The wing slides are intended only for ground landings and do not double as rafts, as per the accident report




            According to TSO C-69c, Type IV is a combination inflatable exit ramp
            and wing-to-ground slide. The off-wing ramp/slides were intended to be
            used in the event of a ground, not a water, evacuation.




            As such the over wing slides could not be used in this case.






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              I wasn't aware that the overwing slides were not designed for water evacuation. Thanks!
              $endgroup$
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              14 hours ago














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            $begingroup$

            Because they were told to evacuate there, if you take a look at the official audio transcript from the accident:




            place both arms through the straps and hug it to your chest. flight
            attendants are pointing out there are a total of eight exits on this
            aircraft, two door exits in front of the aircraft, four window exits
            over the wings
            , and two door exits in the rear of the aircraft. once
            again, two door exits at the front of the aircraft, four window exits
            over the wings, and two door exits in the rear of the aircraft. each
            door is equipped with an evacuation slide if directed to exit... the
            aircraft jump onto the slide and move away from the aircraft.




            The rear exits were largely blocked by water making the forward exits the only ones with slides, those slides were utilized as evidenced by photos included in the report:
            Photo of passengers on wings after evacuation



            (source)



            With only half of the slides available the wings also had to be used. The wing slides are intended only for ground landings and do not double as rafts, as per the accident report




            According to TSO C-69c, Type IV is a combination inflatable exit ramp
            and wing-to-ground slide. The off-wing ramp/slides were intended to be
            used in the event of a ground, not a water, evacuation.




            As such the over wing slides could not be used in this case.






            share|improve this answer











            $endgroup$



            Because they were told to evacuate there, if you take a look at the official audio transcript from the accident:




            place both arms through the straps and hug it to your chest. flight
            attendants are pointing out there are a total of eight exits on this
            aircraft, two door exits in front of the aircraft, four window exits
            over the wings
            , and two door exits in the rear of the aircraft. once
            again, two door exits at the front of the aircraft, four window exits
            over the wings, and two door exits in the rear of the aircraft. each
            door is equipped with an evacuation slide if directed to exit... the
            aircraft jump onto the slide and move away from the aircraft.




            The rear exits were largely blocked by water making the forward exits the only ones with slides, those slides were utilized as evidenced by photos included in the report:
            Photo of passengers on wings after evacuation



            (source)



            With only half of the slides available the wings also had to be used. The wing slides are intended only for ground landings and do not double as rafts, as per the accident report




            According to TSO C-69c, Type IV is a combination inflatable exit ramp
            and wing-to-ground slide. The off-wing ramp/slides were intended to be
            used in the event of a ground, not a water, evacuation.




            As such the over wing slides could not be used in this case.







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              $begingroup$
              I wasn't aware that the overwing slides were not designed for water evacuation. Thanks!
              $endgroup$
              – user1202136
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              I wasn't aware that the overwing slides were not designed for water evacuation. Thanks!
              $endgroup$
              – user1202136
              14 hours ago








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            $begingroup$
            I wasn't aware that the overwing slides were not designed for water evacuation. Thanks!
            $endgroup$
            – user1202136
            14 hours ago




            $begingroup$
            I wasn't aware that the overwing slides were not designed for water evacuation. Thanks!
            $endgroup$
            – user1202136
            14 hours ago













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            Per the accident report from the NTSB, only the four exit slides (two at the forward doors and two at the aft doors) could be used as rafts, as the aircraft was configured for extended overwater operations (EOW). Regulations required there to be enough capacity for all passengers if the largest raft was not usable. Each slide/raft was rated for 44 passengers, or an overload of 55 passengers.



            During the ditching, the aft part of the cabin rapidly filled with water, preventing the use of the aft two exits and their slides. This meant that the remaining rafts could hold a maximum of 110 people if overloaded out of the 155 people on board the flight. That would leave at least 45 people on the wings.



            The report states that about 87 people were rescued outside the two rafts. Many passengers rushed to the overwing exits, creating a backup, and flight attendants had to ask passengers to come forward to the rafts. The overwing exits are not supposed to be used unless other exits aren't available. There are also life lines to help passengers when out on the wings, but these were not used. Since the flight attendants are located on either end of the plane they were too far away to advise the passengers about this.



            and the flight attendants at either end of the plane were too far away to stop them. There were also



            The report further discusses even the two rafts were not technically required (the flight was not an EOW route), and the remaining passengers were in danger of not surviving the cold water if they had not been rescued so quickly.






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              Per the accident report from the NTSB, only the four exit slides (two at the forward doors and two at the aft doors) could be used as rafts, as the aircraft was configured for extended overwater operations (EOW). Regulations required there to be enough capacity for all passengers if the largest raft was not usable. Each slide/raft was rated for 44 passengers, or an overload of 55 passengers.



              During the ditching, the aft part of the cabin rapidly filled with water, preventing the use of the aft two exits and their slides. This meant that the remaining rafts could hold a maximum of 110 people if overloaded out of the 155 people on board the flight. That would leave at least 45 people on the wings.



              The report states that about 87 people were rescued outside the two rafts. Many passengers rushed to the overwing exits, creating a backup, and flight attendants had to ask passengers to come forward to the rafts. The overwing exits are not supposed to be used unless other exits aren't available. There are also life lines to help passengers when out on the wings, but these were not used. Since the flight attendants are located on either end of the plane they were too far away to advise the passengers about this.



              and the flight attendants at either end of the plane were too far away to stop them. There were also



              The report further discusses even the two rafts were not technically required (the flight was not an EOW route), and the remaining passengers were in danger of not surviving the cold water if they had not been rescued so quickly.






              share|improve this answer











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                Per the accident report from the NTSB, only the four exit slides (two at the forward doors and two at the aft doors) could be used as rafts, as the aircraft was configured for extended overwater operations (EOW). Regulations required there to be enough capacity for all passengers if the largest raft was not usable. Each slide/raft was rated for 44 passengers, or an overload of 55 passengers.



                During the ditching, the aft part of the cabin rapidly filled with water, preventing the use of the aft two exits and their slides. This meant that the remaining rafts could hold a maximum of 110 people if overloaded out of the 155 people on board the flight. That would leave at least 45 people on the wings.



                The report states that about 87 people were rescued outside the two rafts. Many passengers rushed to the overwing exits, creating a backup, and flight attendants had to ask passengers to come forward to the rafts. The overwing exits are not supposed to be used unless other exits aren't available. There are also life lines to help passengers when out on the wings, but these were not used. Since the flight attendants are located on either end of the plane they were too far away to advise the passengers about this.



                and the flight attendants at either end of the plane were too far away to stop them. There were also



                The report further discusses even the two rafts were not technically required (the flight was not an EOW route), and the remaining passengers were in danger of not surviving the cold water if they had not been rescued so quickly.






                share|improve this answer











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                Per the accident report from the NTSB, only the four exit slides (two at the forward doors and two at the aft doors) could be used as rafts, as the aircraft was configured for extended overwater operations (EOW). Regulations required there to be enough capacity for all passengers if the largest raft was not usable. Each slide/raft was rated for 44 passengers, or an overload of 55 passengers.



                During the ditching, the aft part of the cabin rapidly filled with water, preventing the use of the aft two exits and their slides. This meant that the remaining rafts could hold a maximum of 110 people if overloaded out of the 155 people on board the flight. That would leave at least 45 people on the wings.



                The report states that about 87 people were rescued outside the two rafts. Many passengers rushed to the overwing exits, creating a backup, and flight attendants had to ask passengers to come forward to the rafts. The overwing exits are not supposed to be used unless other exits aren't available. There are also life lines to help passengers when out on the wings, but these were not used. Since the flight attendants are located on either end of the plane they were too far away to advise the passengers about this.



                and the flight attendants at either end of the plane were too far away to stop them. There were also



                The report further discusses even the two rafts were not technically required (the flight was not an EOW route), and the remaining passengers were in danger of not surviving the cold water if they had not been rescued so quickly.







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