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In an answer on politics.SE, a Northwestern University study was highlighted, whose main findings included:





  • more Democrats than Republicans think astrology is scientific




    Using Fisher’s Exact Test, conservative Republicans are significantly more likely than other groups combined to reject astrology as not scientific (p<.0005). The same is true of conservatives compared to non-conservatives (p<.0005) and Republicans compared to non-Republicans (p<.0005). Likewise, Democrats are less likely to reject astrology as unscientific than others (p<.0005).





  • fewer Democrats than Republicans think the earth revolves around the sun.




    ...in 2012 a majority of Democrats (51.4%) could not
    correctly answer both that the earth revolves around the Sun and that this takes a year. Republicans fare a bit better, with only 37.9% failing to get both correct.





One thing that does look a little dubious is that that this study was penned by a law professor. I'm also unsure if it has been published in a peer-review venue.



Are the results of this study consistent with other similar studies on such matters?










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    As a point of reference, part of what prodded the law professor to examine this was because (by my reading of a related article), apparently, belief in astrology over science is part of scoring in a number of measurements of conservatism (how conservative is someone), vs saying that one group is smarter or more knowledgeable than the other. He was examining this assumption more, so it seems like a legitimate examination. If we were looking to label a group as more or less scientifically ignorant, for lack of a better term, then the lack of examination of religion vs science would be notable.

    – PoloHoleSet
    2 hours ago











  • On the other hand, Republicans are much more likely to believe in a Biblical god: pewforum.org/2018/04/25/…

    – Daniel R. Collins
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In an answer on politics.SE, a Northwestern University study was highlighted, whose main findings included:





  • more Democrats than Republicans think astrology is scientific




    Using Fisher’s Exact Test, conservative Republicans are significantly more likely than other groups combined to reject astrology as not scientific (p<.0005). The same is true of conservatives compared to non-conservatives (p<.0005) and Republicans compared to non-Republicans (p<.0005). Likewise, Democrats are less likely to reject astrology as unscientific than others (p<.0005).





  • fewer Democrats than Republicans think the earth revolves around the sun.




    ...in 2012 a majority of Democrats (51.4%) could not
    correctly answer both that the earth revolves around the Sun and that this takes a year. Republicans fare a bit better, with only 37.9% failing to get both correct.





One thing that does look a little dubious is that that this study was penned by a law professor. I'm also unsure if it has been published in a peer-review venue.



Are the results of this study consistent with other similar studies on such matters?










share|improve this question






















  • 1





    Comments that aren't about improving the question should be taken to chat. One's posted here are likely to be deleted.

    – Oddthinking
    9 hours ago








  • 1





    As a point of reference, part of what prodded the law professor to examine this was because (by my reading of a related article), apparently, belief in astrology over science is part of scoring in a number of measurements of conservatism (how conservative is someone), vs saying that one group is smarter or more knowledgeable than the other. He was examining this assumption more, so it seems like a legitimate examination. If we were looking to label a group as more or less scientifically ignorant, for lack of a better term, then the lack of examination of religion vs science would be notable.

    – PoloHoleSet
    2 hours ago











  • On the other hand, Republicans are much more likely to believe in a Biblical god: pewforum.org/2018/04/25/…

    – Daniel R. Collins
    55 mins ago














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In an answer on politics.SE, a Northwestern University study was highlighted, whose main findings included:





  • more Democrats than Republicans think astrology is scientific




    Using Fisher’s Exact Test, conservative Republicans are significantly more likely than other groups combined to reject astrology as not scientific (p<.0005). The same is true of conservatives compared to non-conservatives (p<.0005) and Republicans compared to non-Republicans (p<.0005). Likewise, Democrats are less likely to reject astrology as unscientific than others (p<.0005).





  • fewer Democrats than Republicans think the earth revolves around the sun.




    ...in 2012 a majority of Democrats (51.4%) could not
    correctly answer both that the earth revolves around the Sun and that this takes a year. Republicans fare a bit better, with only 37.9% failing to get both correct.





One thing that does look a little dubious is that that this study was penned by a law professor. I'm also unsure if it has been published in a peer-review venue.



Are the results of this study consistent with other similar studies on such matters?










share|improve this question
















In an answer on politics.SE, a Northwestern University study was highlighted, whose main findings included:





  • more Democrats than Republicans think astrology is scientific




    Using Fisher’s Exact Test, conservative Republicans are significantly more likely than other groups combined to reject astrology as not scientific (p<.0005). The same is true of conservatives compared to non-conservatives (p<.0005) and Republicans compared to non-Republicans (p<.0005). Likewise, Democrats are less likely to reject astrology as unscientific than others (p<.0005).





  • fewer Democrats than Republicans think the earth revolves around the sun.




    ...in 2012 a majority of Democrats (51.4%) could not
    correctly answer both that the earth revolves around the Sun and that this takes a year. Republicans fare a bit better, with only 37.9% failing to get both correct.





One thing that does look a little dubious is that that this study was penned by a law professor. I'm also unsure if it has been published in a peer-review venue.



Are the results of this study consistent with other similar studies on such matters?







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    Comments that aren't about improving the question should be taken to chat. One's posted here are likely to be deleted.

    – Oddthinking
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    As a point of reference, part of what prodded the law professor to examine this was because (by my reading of a related article), apparently, belief in astrology over science is part of scoring in a number of measurements of conservatism (how conservative is someone), vs saying that one group is smarter or more knowledgeable than the other. He was examining this assumption more, so it seems like a legitimate examination. If we were looking to label a group as more or less scientifically ignorant, for lack of a better term, then the lack of examination of religion vs science would be notable.

    – PoloHoleSet
    2 hours ago











  • On the other hand, Republicans are much more likely to believe in a Biblical god: pewforum.org/2018/04/25/…

    – Daniel R. Collins
    55 mins ago














  • 1





    Comments that aren't about improving the question should be taken to chat. One's posted here are likely to be deleted.

    – Oddthinking
    9 hours ago








  • 1





    As a point of reference, part of what prodded the law professor to examine this was because (by my reading of a related article), apparently, belief in astrology over science is part of scoring in a number of measurements of conservatism (how conservative is someone), vs saying that one group is smarter or more knowledgeable than the other. He was examining this assumption more, so it seems like a legitimate examination. If we were looking to label a group as more or less scientifically ignorant, for lack of a better term, then the lack of examination of religion vs science would be notable.

    – PoloHoleSet
    2 hours ago











  • On the other hand, Republicans are much more likely to believe in a Biblical god: pewforum.org/2018/04/25/…

    – Daniel R. Collins
    55 mins ago








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Comments that aren't about improving the question should be taken to chat. One's posted here are likely to be deleted.

– Oddthinking
9 hours ago







Comments that aren't about improving the question should be taken to chat. One's posted here are likely to be deleted.

– Oddthinking
9 hours ago






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As a point of reference, part of what prodded the law professor to examine this was because (by my reading of a related article), apparently, belief in astrology over science is part of scoring in a number of measurements of conservatism (how conservative is someone), vs saying that one group is smarter or more knowledgeable than the other. He was examining this assumption more, so it seems like a legitimate examination. If we were looking to label a group as more or less scientifically ignorant, for lack of a better term, then the lack of examination of religion vs science would be notable.

– PoloHoleSet
2 hours ago





As a point of reference, part of what prodded the law professor to examine this was because (by my reading of a related article), apparently, belief in astrology over science is part of scoring in a number of measurements of conservatism (how conservative is someone), vs saying that one group is smarter or more knowledgeable than the other. He was examining this assumption more, so it seems like a legitimate examination. If we were looking to label a group as more or less scientifically ignorant, for lack of a better term, then the lack of examination of religion vs science would be notable.

– PoloHoleSet
2 hours ago













On the other hand, Republicans are much more likely to believe in a Biblical god: pewforum.org/2018/04/25/…

– Daniel R. Collins
55 mins ago





On the other hand, Republicans are much more likely to believe in a Biblical god: pewforum.org/2018/04/25/…

– Daniel R. Collins
55 mins ago










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Independently, Pew has discovered that a greater percentage of Democrats believe in astrology than Republicans:



Pew results: 31% of Democrats, 26% of Independents, and 14% of Republicans believe in astrology



They include details on their survey methods. They did provide a definition of astrology in the survey: "that the position of the stars and planets can affect people’s lives". This may rule out people confusing astronomy and astrology.



To summarize, this chart depicts that their findings were that 31% of Democrats and 14% of Republicans believe in astrology.



However, the bit about heliocentrism seems at odds with what I have seen before. This is just one study, but it concludes that political conservatism is a predictor of disbelief in Earth Science: Do Americans Believe Modern Earth Science? - Allan Mazur. In the table on predicting factors, it notes a small predictive effect from political conservatism for disbelief in heliocentrism.






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    It's very easy to draw invalid conclusions from a chart like this. As another Pew study shows, the Democrats receive more votes from female voters than the Republicans, and also more votes from black voters. These are two groups that also seem to have a relatively strong believe in astrology. Without a proper multivariate analysis, it's very difficult to disentangle these different variables.

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    @Schmuddi Pew does weight their values: "The combined landline and cell phone sample is weighted using an iterative technique that matches gender, age, education, race/ethnicity, region, and population density to parameters from the March 2008 Census Bureau’s Current Population Survey."

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    Technically, the position of the stars and planets does affect people's lives. If the Sun suddenly moved 100 million kilometers closer or farther from the Earth, a lot of people would die. (This may suggest that nitpicking mathematicians are more likely than democrats to believe that that sentence is true).

    – Federico Poloni
    3 hours ago








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    I'd be interested to know how a "belief in yoga" is defined. I've had a number of physicians and physical therapists tell me that I need to take yoga, based on my astounding lack of lower body flexibility, and the type of results practicing yoga can give for that kind of body issue, and not in any way related to mystical powers. Does that mean they or I "believe in yoga?"

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    Playing devils advocate, suppose that Republicans don't believe in astrology because they believe the bible is literally true and prohibits fortune-telling. That obviously means Republicans are "more scientific" than Democrats, yes?

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Independently, Pew has discovered that a greater percentage of Democrats believe in astrology than Republicans:



Pew results: 31% of Democrats, 26% of Independents, and 14% of Republicans believe in astrology



They include details on their survey methods. They did provide a definition of astrology in the survey: "that the position of the stars and planets can affect people’s lives". This may rule out people confusing astronomy and astrology.



To summarize, this chart depicts that their findings were that 31% of Democrats and 14% of Republicans believe in astrology.



However, the bit about heliocentrism seems at odds with what I have seen before. This is just one study, but it concludes that political conservatism is a predictor of disbelief in Earth Science: Do Americans Believe Modern Earth Science? - Allan Mazur. In the table on predicting factors, it notes a small predictive effect from political conservatism for disbelief in heliocentrism.






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    It's very easy to draw invalid conclusions from a chart like this. As another Pew study shows, the Democrats receive more votes from female voters than the Republicans, and also more votes from black voters. These are two groups that also seem to have a relatively strong believe in astrology. Without a proper multivariate analysis, it's very difficult to disentangle these different variables.

    – Schmuddi
    6 hours ago






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    @Schmuddi Pew does weight their values: "The combined landline and cell phone sample is weighted using an iterative technique that matches gender, age, education, race/ethnicity, region, and population density to parameters from the March 2008 Census Bureau’s Current Population Survey."

    – called2voyage
    6 hours ago






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    Technically, the position of the stars and planets does affect people's lives. If the Sun suddenly moved 100 million kilometers closer or farther from the Earth, a lot of people would die. (This may suggest that nitpicking mathematicians are more likely than democrats to believe that that sentence is true).

    – Federico Poloni
    3 hours ago








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    I'd be interested to know how a "belief in yoga" is defined. I've had a number of physicians and physical therapists tell me that I need to take yoga, based on my astounding lack of lower body flexibility, and the type of results practicing yoga can give for that kind of body issue, and not in any way related to mystical powers. Does that mean they or I "believe in yoga?"

    – PoloHoleSet
    2 hours ago






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    Playing devils advocate, suppose that Republicans don't believe in astrology because they believe the bible is literally true and prohibits fortune-telling. That obviously means Republicans are "more scientific" than Democrats, yes?

    – alephzero
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Independently, Pew has discovered that a greater percentage of Democrats believe in astrology than Republicans:



Pew results: 31% of Democrats, 26% of Independents, and 14% of Republicans believe in astrology



They include details on their survey methods. They did provide a definition of astrology in the survey: "that the position of the stars and planets can affect people’s lives". This may rule out people confusing astronomy and astrology.



To summarize, this chart depicts that their findings were that 31% of Democrats and 14% of Republicans believe in astrology.



However, the bit about heliocentrism seems at odds with what I have seen before. This is just one study, but it concludes that political conservatism is a predictor of disbelief in Earth Science: Do Americans Believe Modern Earth Science? - Allan Mazur. In the table on predicting factors, it notes a small predictive effect from political conservatism for disbelief in heliocentrism.






share|improve this answer























  • 7





    It's very easy to draw invalid conclusions from a chart like this. As another Pew study shows, the Democrats receive more votes from female voters than the Republicans, and also more votes from black voters. These are two groups that also seem to have a relatively strong believe in astrology. Without a proper multivariate analysis, it's very difficult to disentangle these different variables.

    – Schmuddi
    6 hours ago






  • 3





    @Schmuddi Pew does weight their values: "The combined landline and cell phone sample is weighted using an iterative technique that matches gender, age, education, race/ethnicity, region, and population density to parameters from the March 2008 Census Bureau’s Current Population Survey."

    – called2voyage
    6 hours ago






  • 10





    Technically, the position of the stars and planets does affect people's lives. If the Sun suddenly moved 100 million kilometers closer or farther from the Earth, a lot of people would die. (This may suggest that nitpicking mathematicians are more likely than democrats to believe that that sentence is true).

    – Federico Poloni
    3 hours ago








  • 8





    I'd be interested to know how a "belief in yoga" is defined. I've had a number of physicians and physical therapists tell me that I need to take yoga, based on my astounding lack of lower body flexibility, and the type of results practicing yoga can give for that kind of body issue, and not in any way related to mystical powers. Does that mean they or I "believe in yoga?"

    – PoloHoleSet
    2 hours ago






  • 3





    Playing devils advocate, suppose that Republicans don't believe in astrology because they believe the bible is literally true and prohibits fortune-telling. That obviously means Republicans are "more scientific" than Democrats, yes?

    – alephzero
    1 hour ago
















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Independently, Pew has discovered that a greater percentage of Democrats believe in astrology than Republicans:



Pew results: 31% of Democrats, 26% of Independents, and 14% of Republicans believe in astrology



They include details on their survey methods. They did provide a definition of astrology in the survey: "that the position of the stars and planets can affect people’s lives". This may rule out people confusing astronomy and astrology.



To summarize, this chart depicts that their findings were that 31% of Democrats and 14% of Republicans believe in astrology.



However, the bit about heliocentrism seems at odds with what I have seen before. This is just one study, but it concludes that political conservatism is a predictor of disbelief in Earth Science: Do Americans Believe Modern Earth Science? - Allan Mazur. In the table on predicting factors, it notes a small predictive effect from political conservatism for disbelief in heliocentrism.






share|improve this answer















Independently, Pew has discovered that a greater percentage of Democrats believe in astrology than Republicans:



Pew results: 31% of Democrats, 26% of Independents, and 14% of Republicans believe in astrology



They include details on their survey methods. They did provide a definition of astrology in the survey: "that the position of the stars and planets can affect people’s lives". This may rule out people confusing astronomy and astrology.



To summarize, this chart depicts that their findings were that 31% of Democrats and 14% of Republicans believe in astrology.



However, the bit about heliocentrism seems at odds with what I have seen before. This is just one study, but it concludes that political conservatism is a predictor of disbelief in Earth Science: Do Americans Believe Modern Earth Science? - Allan Mazur. In the table on predicting factors, it notes a small predictive effect from political conservatism for disbelief in heliocentrism.







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    It's very easy to draw invalid conclusions from a chart like this. As another Pew study shows, the Democrats receive more votes from female voters than the Republicans, and also more votes from black voters. These are two groups that also seem to have a relatively strong believe in astrology. Without a proper multivariate analysis, it's very difficult to disentangle these different variables.

    – Schmuddi
    6 hours ago






  • 3





    @Schmuddi Pew does weight their values: "The combined landline and cell phone sample is weighted using an iterative technique that matches gender, age, education, race/ethnicity, region, and population density to parameters from the March 2008 Census Bureau’s Current Population Survey."

    – called2voyage
    6 hours ago






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    Technically, the position of the stars and planets does affect people's lives. If the Sun suddenly moved 100 million kilometers closer or farther from the Earth, a lot of people would die. (This may suggest that nitpicking mathematicians are more likely than democrats to believe that that sentence is true).

    – Federico Poloni
    3 hours ago








  • 8





    I'd be interested to know how a "belief in yoga" is defined. I've had a number of physicians and physical therapists tell me that I need to take yoga, based on my astounding lack of lower body flexibility, and the type of results practicing yoga can give for that kind of body issue, and not in any way related to mystical powers. Does that mean they or I "believe in yoga?"

    – PoloHoleSet
    2 hours ago






  • 3





    Playing devils advocate, suppose that Republicans don't believe in astrology because they believe the bible is literally true and prohibits fortune-telling. That obviously means Republicans are "more scientific" than Democrats, yes?

    – alephzero
    1 hour ago
















  • 7





    It's very easy to draw invalid conclusions from a chart like this. As another Pew study shows, the Democrats receive more votes from female voters than the Republicans, and also more votes from black voters. These are two groups that also seem to have a relatively strong believe in astrology. Without a proper multivariate analysis, it's very difficult to disentangle these different variables.

    – Schmuddi
    6 hours ago






  • 3





    @Schmuddi Pew does weight their values: "The combined landline and cell phone sample is weighted using an iterative technique that matches gender, age, education, race/ethnicity, region, and population density to parameters from the March 2008 Census Bureau’s Current Population Survey."

    – called2voyage
    6 hours ago






  • 10





    Technically, the position of the stars and planets does affect people's lives. If the Sun suddenly moved 100 million kilometers closer or farther from the Earth, a lot of people would die. (This may suggest that nitpicking mathematicians are more likely than democrats to believe that that sentence is true).

    – Federico Poloni
    3 hours ago








  • 8





    I'd be interested to know how a "belief in yoga" is defined. I've had a number of physicians and physical therapists tell me that I need to take yoga, based on my astounding lack of lower body flexibility, and the type of results practicing yoga can give for that kind of body issue, and not in any way related to mystical powers. Does that mean they or I "believe in yoga?"

    – PoloHoleSet
    2 hours ago






  • 3





    Playing devils advocate, suppose that Republicans don't believe in astrology because they believe the bible is literally true and prohibits fortune-telling. That obviously means Republicans are "more scientific" than Democrats, yes?

    – alephzero
    1 hour ago










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It's very easy to draw invalid conclusions from a chart like this. As another Pew study shows, the Democrats receive more votes from female voters than the Republicans, and also more votes from black voters. These are two groups that also seem to have a relatively strong believe in astrology. Without a proper multivariate analysis, it's very difficult to disentangle these different variables.

– Schmuddi
6 hours ago





It's very easy to draw invalid conclusions from a chart like this. As another Pew study shows, the Democrats receive more votes from female voters than the Republicans, and also more votes from black voters. These are two groups that also seem to have a relatively strong believe in astrology. Without a proper multivariate analysis, it's very difficult to disentangle these different variables.

– Schmuddi
6 hours ago




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@Schmuddi Pew does weight their values: "The combined landline and cell phone sample is weighted using an iterative technique that matches gender, age, education, race/ethnicity, region, and population density to parameters from the March 2008 Census Bureau’s Current Population Survey."

– called2voyage
6 hours ago





@Schmuddi Pew does weight their values: "The combined landline and cell phone sample is weighted using an iterative technique that matches gender, age, education, race/ethnicity, region, and population density to parameters from the March 2008 Census Bureau’s Current Population Survey."

– called2voyage
6 hours ago




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Technically, the position of the stars and planets does affect people's lives. If the Sun suddenly moved 100 million kilometers closer or farther from the Earth, a lot of people would die. (This may suggest that nitpicking mathematicians are more likely than democrats to believe that that sentence is true).

– Federico Poloni
3 hours ago







Technically, the position of the stars and planets does affect people's lives. If the Sun suddenly moved 100 million kilometers closer or farther from the Earth, a lot of people would die. (This may suggest that nitpicking mathematicians are more likely than democrats to believe that that sentence is true).

– Federico Poloni
3 hours ago






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I'd be interested to know how a "belief in yoga" is defined. I've had a number of physicians and physical therapists tell me that I need to take yoga, based on my astounding lack of lower body flexibility, and the type of results practicing yoga can give for that kind of body issue, and not in any way related to mystical powers. Does that mean they or I "believe in yoga?"

– PoloHoleSet
2 hours ago





I'd be interested to know how a "belief in yoga" is defined. I've had a number of physicians and physical therapists tell me that I need to take yoga, based on my astounding lack of lower body flexibility, and the type of results practicing yoga can give for that kind of body issue, and not in any way related to mystical powers. Does that mean they or I "believe in yoga?"

– PoloHoleSet
2 hours ago




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Playing devils advocate, suppose that Republicans don't believe in astrology because they believe the bible is literally true and prohibits fortune-telling. That obviously means Republicans are "more scientific" than Democrats, yes?

– alephzero
1 hour ago







Playing devils advocate, suppose that Republicans don't believe in astrology because they believe the bible is literally true and prohibits fortune-telling. That obviously means Republicans are "more scientific" than Democrats, yes?

– alephzero
1 hour ago





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