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Does using a crossbow with the Sharpshooter feat change its range in underwater combat?

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The "Underwater Combat" section of the Combat chapter (PHB, p. 198) reads:

A ranged weapon attack automatically misses a target beyond the weapon's normal range. Even against a target within normal range, the attack roll has disadvantage unless the weapon is a crossbow, a net, or a weapon that is thrown like a javelin (including a spear, trident, or dart).

The Sharpshooter feat (PHB, p. 170) reads:

Attacking at long range doesn't impose disadvantage on your ranged weapon attack rolls.

With both of those in mind, would a PC with a Hand Crossbow and the Sharpshooter feat be able to shoot further than 30 feet underwater?

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The "Underwater Combat" section of the Combat chapter (PHB, p. 198) reads:

A ranged weapon attack automatically misses a target beyond the weapon's normal range. Even against a target within normal range, the attack roll has disadvantage unless the weapon is a crossbow, a net, or a weapon that is thrown like a javelin (including a spear, trident, or dart).

The Sharpshooter feat (PHB, p. 170) reads:

Attacking at long range doesn't impose disadvantage on your ranged weapon attack rolls.

With both of those in mind, would a PC with a Hand Crossbow and the Sharpshooter feat be able to shoot further than 30 feet underwater?

dnd-5e feats ranged-attack underwater

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The "Underwater Combat" section of the Combat chapter (PHB, p. 198) reads:

A ranged weapon attack automatically misses a target beyond the weapon's normal range. Even against a target within normal range, the attack roll has disadvantage unless the weapon is a crossbow, a net, or a weapon that is thrown like a javelin (including a spear, trident, or dart).

The Sharpshooter feat (PHB, p. 170) reads:

Attacking at long range doesn't impose disadvantage on your ranged weapon attack rolls.

With both of those in mind, would a PC with a Hand Crossbow and the Sharpshooter feat be able to shoot further than 30 feet underwater?

dnd-5e feats ranged-attack underwater

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No: the maximum range is reduced.

The benefit is that the attack is not at disadvantage, though you get that benefit anyway from using a crossbow under water.

Specific Beats General

This book contains rules, especially in parts 2 and 3, that govern how
the game plays. That said, many racial traits, class features, spells,
magic items, monster abilities, and other game elements break the
general rules in some way, creating an exception to how the rest of
the game works. Remember this: If a specific rule contradicts a
general rule, the specific rule wins. Exceptions to the rules are
often minor. {snip} Magic accounts for most of the major exceptions to
the rules. (Basic Rules, p. 5)

This is one of those rulings that deals with two different cases of "specific over general" and leans more toward verisimilitude in favoring the "reduced range underwater" having more weight. One way to view this is that there is a global effect on all ranged weapons in terms of reduced range. Your DM could apply "Specific Beats General" in favor of the feat. Work with your DM.

A ranged weapon attack automatically misses a target beyond the
weapon’s normal range. Even against a target within normal range, the
attack roll has disadvantage unless the weapon is a crossbow, a net,
or a weapon that is thrown like a javelin (including a spear, trident,
or dart). Creatures and objects that are fully immersed in water have
resistance to fire damage. (Basic Rules, Ch 9; Underwater Combat)

From the Weapon Table:

Crossbow, hand 75 gp 1d6 piercing 3 lb. Ammunition (range 30/120),
light, loading

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  I wouldn't even say this is "specific beats general". The feat specifically states "Attacking at long range doesn't impose disadvantage on your ranged weapon attack rolls." while the underwater combat rules "A ranged weapon attack automatically misses a target beyond the weapon's normal range. Even against a target within normal range, the attack roll has disadvantage unless the weapon is a crossbow (...)". So there's no disadvantage to negate. At long range it misses no matter what. At normal range crossbows already don't have disadvantage underwater. So neither rule conflicts
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No: the maximum range is reduced.

The benefit is that the attack is not at disadvantage, though you get that benefit anyway from using a crossbow under water.

Specific Beats General

This book contains rules, especially in parts 2 and 3, that govern how
the game plays. That said, many racial traits, class features, spells,
magic items, monster abilities, and other game elements break the
general rules in some way, creating an exception to how the rest of
the game works. Remember this: If a specific rule contradicts a
general rule, the specific rule wins. Exceptions to the rules are
often minor. {snip} Magic accounts for most of the major exceptions to
the rules. (Basic Rules, p. 5)

This is one of those rulings that deals with two different cases of "specific over general" and leans more toward verisimilitude in favoring the "reduced range underwater" having more weight. One way to view this is that there is a global effect on all ranged weapons in terms of reduced range. Your DM could apply "Specific Beats General" in favor of the feat. Work with your DM.

A ranged weapon attack automatically misses a target beyond the
weapon’s normal range. Even against a target within normal range, the
attack roll has disadvantage unless the weapon is a crossbow, a net,
or a weapon that is thrown like a javelin (including a spear, trident,
or dart). Creatures and objects that are fully immersed in water have
resistance to fire damage. (Basic Rules, Ch 9; Underwater Combat)

From the Weapon Table:

Crossbow, hand 75 gp 1d6 piercing 3 lb. Ammunition (range 30/120),
light, loading

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  I wouldn't even say this is "specific beats general". The feat specifically states "Attacking at long range doesn't impose disadvantage on your ranged weapon attack rolls." while the underwater combat rules "A ranged weapon attack automatically misses a target beyond the weapon's normal range. Even against a target within normal range, the attack roll has disadvantage unless the weapon is a crossbow (...)". So there's no disadvantage to negate. At long range it misses no matter what. At normal range crossbows already don't have disadvantage underwater. So neither rule conflicts
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No: the maximum range is reduced.

The benefit is that the attack is not at disadvantage, though you get that benefit anyway from using a crossbow under water.

Specific Beats General

This book contains rules, especially in parts 2 and 3, that govern how
the game plays. That said, many racial traits, class features, spells,
magic items, monster abilities, and other game elements break the
general rules in some way, creating an exception to how the rest of
the game works. Remember this: If a specific rule contradicts a
general rule, the specific rule wins. Exceptions to the rules are
often minor. {snip} Magic accounts for most of the major exceptions to
the rules. (Basic Rules, p. 5)

This is one of those rulings that deals with two different cases of "specific over general" and leans more toward verisimilitude in favoring the "reduced range underwater" having more weight. One way to view this is that there is a global effect on all ranged weapons in terms of reduced range. Your DM could apply "Specific Beats General" in favor of the feat. Work with your DM.

A ranged weapon attack automatically misses a target beyond the
weapon’s normal range. Even against a target within normal range, the
attack roll has disadvantage unless the weapon is a crossbow, a net,
or a weapon that is thrown like a javelin (including a spear, trident,
or dart). Creatures and objects that are fully immersed in water have
resistance to fire damage. (Basic Rules, Ch 9; Underwater Combat)

From the Weapon Table:

Crossbow, hand 75 gp 1d6 piercing 3 lb. Ammunition (range 30/120),
light, loading

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  I wouldn't even say this is "specific beats general". The feat specifically states "Attacking at long range doesn't impose disadvantage on your ranged weapon attack rolls." while the underwater combat rules "A ranged weapon attack automatically misses a target beyond the weapon's normal range. Even against a target within normal range, the attack roll has disadvantage unless the weapon is a crossbow (...)". So there's no disadvantage to negate. At long range it misses no matter what. At normal range crossbows already don't have disadvantage underwater. So neither rule conflicts
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  @Himitsu_no_Yami Good point, I;ll revise a bit later.
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No: the maximum range is reduced.

The benefit is that the attack is not at disadvantage, though you get that benefit anyway from using a crossbow under water.

Specific Beats General

This book contains rules, especially in parts 2 and 3, that govern how
the game plays. That said, many racial traits, class features, spells,
magic items, monster abilities, and other game elements break the
general rules in some way, creating an exception to how the rest of
the game works. Remember this: If a specific rule contradicts a
general rule, the specific rule wins. Exceptions to the rules are
often minor. {snip} Magic accounts for most of the major exceptions to
the rules. (Basic Rules, p. 5)

This is one of those rulings that deals with two different cases of "specific over general" and leans more toward verisimilitude in favoring the "reduced range underwater" having more weight. One way to view this is that there is a global effect on all ranged weapons in terms of reduced range. Your DM could apply "Specific Beats General" in favor of the feat. Work with your DM.

A ranged weapon attack automatically misses a target beyond the
weapon’s normal range. Even against a target within normal range, the
attack roll has disadvantage unless the weapon is a crossbow, a net,
or a weapon that is thrown like a javelin (including a spear, trident,
or dart). Creatures and objects that are fully immersed in water have
resistance to fire damage. (Basic Rules, Ch 9; Underwater Combat)

From the Weapon Table:

Crossbow, hand 75 gp 1d6 piercing 3 lb. Ammunition (range 30/120),
light, loading

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