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What's the connection between a spoon (匕) and the old age (⺹)? (Kanji: 老)
What's the connection between a spoon (匕) and the old age (⺹)? (Kanji: 老)
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I was studying some radicals and I found this: ⺹ (old, old-age) and this: 匕. But why this: 老 (old + spoon) means "old man, old age, grow old"??
Do Japaneses think a spoon can make you older in a shorter time?
Should I stop using spoons and start to use only chopsticks?
Please help me clearifying all these doubts floating in my mind xD
Thanks in advance!!
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I was studying some radicals and I found this: ⺹ (old, old-age) and this: 匕. But why this: 老 (old + spoon) means "old man, old age, grow old"??
Do Japaneses think a spoon can make you older in a shorter time?
Should I stop using spoons and start to use only chopsticks?
Please help me clearifying all these doubts floating in my mind xD
Thanks in advance!!
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I was studying some radicals and I found this: ⺹ (old, old-age) and this: 匕. But why this: 老 (old + spoon) means "old man, old age, grow old"??
Do Japaneses think a spoon can make you older in a shorter time?
Should I stop using spoons and start to use only chopsticks?
Please help me clearifying all these doubts floating in my mind xD
Thanks in advance!!
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I was studying some radicals and I found this: ⺹ (old, old-age) and this: 匕. But why this: 老 (old + spoon) means "old man, old age, grow old"??
Do Japaneses think a spoon can make you older in a shorter time?
Should I stop using spoons and start to use only chopsticks?
Please help me clearifying all these doubts floating in my mind xD
Thanks in advance!!
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It appears that the 匕 component that we see in 老 did not start out as the same character as 匕 "spoon", but instead as a stylization of long hair and a cane. This is more apparent if you compare the progression of forms from ancient Shang inscriptions through to the modern shapes: see the 匕 glyph origin at Wiktionary, the 老 glyph origin, and by way of comparison, the 比 glyph origin, where the 匕 component again developed from a non-"spoon" origin.
When exploring the origins of Chinese characters, it's important to recognize that the modern forms are not necessarily indicative of the original forms. Things change over time, and there's a general trend towards simplification and standardization.
If you're really interested in the historical development of Chinese characters, look into getting a good character dictionary. I've heard good things about the 大漢和辞典 (Dai Kan-Wa Jiten), a serious and large monolingual Japanese resource. For English readers looking for a starter character etymology dictionary, I found Kenneth Henshall's A Guide to Remembering Japanese Characters to be pretty good. Avoid anything by Heisig, however: he provides fanciful descriptions of each kanji that might be helpful for memorizing, but that have nothing to do with historical development.
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It appears that the 匕 component that we see in 老 did not start out as the same character as 匕 "spoon", but instead as a stylization of long hair and a cane. This is more apparent if you compare the progression of forms from ancient Shang inscriptions through to the modern shapes: see the 匕 glyph origin at Wiktionary, the 老 glyph origin, and by way of comparison, the 比 glyph origin, where the 匕 component again developed from a non-"spoon" origin.
When exploring the origins of Chinese characters, it's important to recognize that the modern forms are not necessarily indicative of the original forms. Things change over time, and there's a general trend towards simplification and standardization.
If you're really interested in the historical development of Chinese characters, look into getting a good character dictionary. I've heard good things about the 大漢和辞典 (Dai Kan-Wa Jiten), a serious and large monolingual Japanese resource. For English readers looking for a starter character etymology dictionary, I found Kenneth Henshall's A Guide to Remembering Japanese Characters to be pretty good. Avoid anything by Heisig, however: he provides fanciful descriptions of each kanji that might be helpful for memorizing, but that have nothing to do with historical development.
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It appears that the 匕 component that we see in 老 did not start out as the same character as 匕 "spoon", but instead as a stylization of long hair and a cane. This is more apparent if you compare the progression of forms from ancient Shang inscriptions through to the modern shapes: see the 匕 glyph origin at Wiktionary, the 老 glyph origin, and by way of comparison, the 比 glyph origin, where the 匕 component again developed from a non-"spoon" origin.
When exploring the origins of Chinese characters, it's important to recognize that the modern forms are not necessarily indicative of the original forms. Things change over time, and there's a general trend towards simplification and standardization.
If you're really interested in the historical development of Chinese characters, look into getting a good character dictionary. I've heard good things about the 大漢和辞典 (Dai Kan-Wa Jiten), a serious and large monolingual Japanese resource. For English readers looking for a starter character etymology dictionary, I found Kenneth Henshall's A Guide to Remembering Japanese Characters to be pretty good. Avoid anything by Heisig, however: he provides fanciful descriptions of each kanji that might be helpful for memorizing, but that have nothing to do with historical development.
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It appears that the 匕 component that we see in 老 did not start out as the same character as 匕 "spoon", but instead as a stylization of long hair and a cane. This is more apparent if you compare the progression of forms from ancient Shang inscriptions through to the modern shapes: see the 匕 glyph origin at Wiktionary, the 老 glyph origin, and by way of comparison, the 比 glyph origin, where the 匕 component again developed from a non-"spoon" origin.
When exploring the origins of Chinese characters, it's important to recognize that the modern forms are not necessarily indicative of the original forms. Things change over time, and there's a general trend towards simplification and standardization.
If you're really interested in the historical development of Chinese characters, look into getting a good character dictionary. I've heard good things about the 大漢和辞典 (Dai Kan-Wa Jiten), a serious and large monolingual Japanese resource. For English readers looking for a starter character etymology dictionary, I found Kenneth Henshall's A Guide to Remembering Japanese Characters to be pretty good. Avoid anything by Heisig, however: he provides fanciful descriptions of each kanji that might be helpful for memorizing, but that have nothing to do with historical development.
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It appears that the 匕 component that we see in 老 did not start out as the same character as 匕 "spoon", but instead as a stylization of long hair and a cane. This is more apparent if you compare the progression of forms from ancient Shang inscriptions through to the modern shapes: see the 匕 glyph origin at Wiktionary, the 老 glyph origin, and by way of comparison, the 比 glyph origin, where the 匕 component again developed from a non-"spoon" origin.
When exploring the origins of Chinese characters, it's important to recognize that the modern forms are not necessarily indicative of the original forms. Things change over time, and there's a general trend towards simplification and standardization.
If you're really interested in the historical development of Chinese characters, look into getting a good character dictionary. I've heard good things about the 大漢和辞典 (Dai Kan-Wa Jiten), a serious and large monolingual Japanese resource. For English readers looking for a starter character etymology dictionary, I found Kenneth Henshall's A Guide to Remembering Japanese Characters to be pretty good. Avoid anything by Heisig, however: he provides fanciful descriptions of each kanji that might be helpful for memorizing, but that have nothing to do with historical development.
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