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War seems to be a normal daily routine in the Middle East, the war in Iraq, Syria... Why are these countries not normal? Or is it due to the USA and Israel keeping those countries at constant wars in order to keep themselves stable and safe? Are those wars considered as civil wars?
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War seems to be a normal daily routine in the Middle East, the war in Iraq, Syria... Why are these countries not normal? Or is it due to the USA and Israel keeping those countries at constant wars in order to keep themselves stable and safe? Are those wars considered as civil wars?
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I don't think you're alone in having asked yourself this over the years. I'm not so sure that "Duh, Oil!" can explain everything so easily. Good question, but probably not on-topic anywhere because of the "Why".
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War seems to be a normal daily routine in the Middle East, the war in Iraq, Syria... Why are these countries not normal? Or is it due to the USA and Israel keeping those countries at constant wars in order to keep themselves stable and safe? Are those wars considered as civil wars?
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I don't think you're alone in having asked yourself this over the years. I'm not so sure that "Duh, Oil!" can explain everything so easily. Good question, but probably not on-topic anywhere because of the "Why".
– pipe
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@27620 Your comment is very interesting! Could you answer with some collaborative facts?
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I don't think you're alone in having asked yourself this over the years. I'm not so sure that "Duh, Oil!" can explain everything so easily. Good question, but probably not on-topic anywhere because of the "Why".
– pipe
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@27620 Your comment is very interesting! Could you answer with some collaborative facts?
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I don't think you're alone in having asked yourself this over the years. I'm not so sure that "Duh, Oil!" can explain everything so easily. Good question, but probably not on-topic anywhere because of the "Why".
– pipe
12 hours ago
I don't think you're alone in having asked yourself this over the years. I'm not so sure that "Duh, Oil!" can explain everything so easily. Good question, but probably not on-topic anywhere because of the "Why".
– pipe
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@27620 Your comment is very interesting! Could you answer with some collaborative facts?
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This is both a pretty broad question and the answers (even from experts) are going to be opinion based to a good extent, so my answer is going to be a rather trite listicle of reasons that have been offered:
- Ethnic and religious divisions (including sectarian ones within Islam), plus a dominance/intolerance aspect thereof. E.g. one 2005 study found using a regression model
What about Islam’s “bloody innards”? Our modified variable—ethnic dominance,
Islam (which takes account of the distinction between Shia and Sunni)—displays
approximately the same values as the original one. This reinforces the conclusion that
any dominant ethnic group increases the risk for conflict, but Islamic dominance no
more so than other cases of dominance.
Some of this is indeed on the backdrop of colonially inherited borders, but that is probably an insufficient explanation, by itself.
Related to dominance, there's authoritarianism. The effect of this on conflicts has been more intensely debated. In some models there's curvilinear relationship, i.e. enough authoritarianism suppresses conflicts. But then you have the so-called boilover effect in which a seemingly stable authoritarian regime suddenly erupts when enough critical mass is attained by the accumulated discontent, relative to the regime's ability to suppress it. Alas emergent democracies are not terribly stable or violence-free either, especially on the background of the ethnic/religious issues from the previous bullet(s). We saw both of these aspects in action with the Arab Spring.
Foreign intervention, both from regional and world powers no doubt plays a role too. It's been debated to what extent this is exacerbating or moderating conflicts. E.g. peace plans vs arming/supporting one side with the obvious internationalization of conflicts. Foreign intervention probably has both effects depending on the time, place and mode of intervention, so the overall effect seems disputed.
The economic/development aspect has also been debated. The region is not as poor as Africa, nor is oil as easy to loot as other conflict-fueling resources like diamonds because of the infrastructure needed to exploit oil. This is probably what gives conflict in the Middle East a more state-based aspect.
Regarding these last two points, the following quote, albeit from a US perspective, is probably helpful nonetheless:
The interests that have long kept the United States involved in the Middle East are fairly clear. Coming out of World War II, American strategists resolved that the United States must prevent any hostile force from dominating a region of critical geopolitical or geo-economic significance. The Middle East, with its vast oil reserves, certainly fit that description. True, America never got a particularly large portion of its oil from Middle Eastern sources. But its allies did: “The Marshall Plan for Europe,” noted Truman’s first Secretary of Defense, James Forrestal, “could not succeed without access to the Middle East oil.” Moreover, the fact that oil was traded on a global market meant that a disruption of price or supply in one region would cause disruption on a far larger scale. [...]
The situation in the Middle East, Dean Acheson once commented, “might have been devised by Karl Marx himself.” A combination of stunted development, stifling socio-political conditions, and resentment of foreign influence made the region ripe for radicalism and inherently difficult for outside powers to manage. [...] The result has been a perpetual tension: The Middle East might require American attention and management, but it was also a source of dangers and distractions that most U.S. officials would have been just as happy to avoid. [...]
The 9/11 attacks offered evidence that the Middle East’s problems could reach out and touch the United States in disastrous ways. The George W. Bush administration responded with the massive projection of American power into the region, focused on defeating al-Qaeda, toppling hostile governments in Afghanistan and Iraq, birthing stable democracies, and thereby transforming the region for the better. When that project proved vastly more costly and difficult than expected, the Obama administration sought to limit U.S. engagement in the region as a way of husbanding resources, avoiding blowback, and “pivoting” to more promising areas. Yet even Obama, so skeptical of American intervention in the region, was unable to get out entirely [...] Today, the Trump administration is manifesting the same ambivalence [...] There are [however] concerns that American retrenchment would open the door for hostile actors—Iran and Russia—to exert dominant influence in a region that still matters.
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Shouldn't you include too Islam approved, high level of cousin marriage leading to continuation of clan society? It's a bit tricky to build a working state apparatus, when people are mostly loyal to their clan. Not a new phenomena, already centuries ago sultans had to create unique social class of Janissary, as such forcibly converted, technically speaking slaves, were still more loyal to ruler, than his other subjects.
– Shadow1024
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@Shadow1024: the ethnic division can have a tribal source as well, as we saw in Syria for instance. I'm not sure how much cousin marriage has to do with that, but you're welcome to add your own answer.
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The Mideast does not have an especially high number of wars when compared to other non-European regions. The largest war in the Mideast was the Iran-Iraq war, which killed 2 million people. The Chinese civil war, the Vietnam war, and other conflicts in Asia killed a lot more. If you are talking about the present day, there is plenty of violence in India, Thailand, Myanmar, and Uighur provinces, it's just less apparent and not emphasized in the media.
Also, the Mideast has a lot of smaller countries. India, China, and Bangladesh have a lot of violence, but because the countries are big and isolated, it's not counted as a war.
African governments are too weak to fight each other. There is also lots of violence in Africa, it just isn't able to take on a state form.
So it's basically due to the Mideast having relatively small and functioning governments more than anything else. Wars are almost a semantic thing: there are lots of countries that have long periods of prolonged homicide which are not counted as "wars".
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This is both a pretty broad question and the answers (even from experts) are going to be opinion based to a good extent, so my answer is going to be a rather trite listicle of reasons that have been offered:
- Ethnic and religious divisions (including sectarian ones within Islam), plus a dominance/intolerance aspect thereof. E.g. one 2005 study found using a regression model
What about Islam’s “bloody innards”? Our modified variable—ethnic dominance,
Islam (which takes account of the distinction between Shia and Sunni)—displays
approximately the same values as the original one. This reinforces the conclusion that
any dominant ethnic group increases the risk for conflict, but Islamic dominance no
more so than other cases of dominance.
Some of this is indeed on the backdrop of colonially inherited borders, but that is probably an insufficient explanation, by itself.
Related to dominance, there's authoritarianism. The effect of this on conflicts has been more intensely debated. In some models there's curvilinear relationship, i.e. enough authoritarianism suppresses conflicts. But then you have the so-called boilover effect in which a seemingly stable authoritarian regime suddenly erupts when enough critical mass is attained by the accumulated discontent, relative to the regime's ability to suppress it. Alas emergent democracies are not terribly stable or violence-free either, especially on the background of the ethnic/religious issues from the previous bullet(s). We saw both of these aspects in action with the Arab Spring.
Foreign intervention, both from regional and world powers no doubt plays a role too. It's been debated to what extent this is exacerbating or moderating conflicts. E.g. peace plans vs arming/supporting one side with the obvious internationalization of conflicts. Foreign intervention probably has both effects depending on the time, place and mode of intervention, so the overall effect seems disputed.
The economic/development aspect has also been debated. The region is not as poor as Africa, nor is oil as easy to loot as other conflict-fueling resources like diamonds because of the infrastructure needed to exploit oil. This is probably what gives conflict in the Middle East a more state-based aspect.
Regarding these last two points, the following quote, albeit from a US perspective, is probably helpful nonetheless:
The interests that have long kept the United States involved in the Middle East are fairly clear. Coming out of World War II, American strategists resolved that the United States must prevent any hostile force from dominating a region of critical geopolitical or geo-economic significance. The Middle East, with its vast oil reserves, certainly fit that description. True, America never got a particularly large portion of its oil from Middle Eastern sources. But its allies did: “The Marshall Plan for Europe,” noted Truman’s first Secretary of Defense, James Forrestal, “could not succeed without access to the Middle East oil.” Moreover, the fact that oil was traded on a global market meant that a disruption of price or supply in one region would cause disruption on a far larger scale. [...]
The situation in the Middle East, Dean Acheson once commented, “might have been devised by Karl Marx himself.” A combination of stunted development, stifling socio-political conditions, and resentment of foreign influence made the region ripe for radicalism and inherently difficult for outside powers to manage. [...] The result has been a perpetual tension: The Middle East might require American attention and management, but it was also a source of dangers and distractions that most U.S. officials would have been just as happy to avoid. [...]
The 9/11 attacks offered evidence that the Middle East’s problems could reach out and touch the United States in disastrous ways. The George W. Bush administration responded with the massive projection of American power into the region, focused on defeating al-Qaeda, toppling hostile governments in Afghanistan and Iraq, birthing stable democracies, and thereby transforming the region for the better. When that project proved vastly more costly and difficult than expected, the Obama administration sought to limit U.S. engagement in the region as a way of husbanding resources, avoiding blowback, and “pivoting” to more promising areas. Yet even Obama, so skeptical of American intervention in the region, was unable to get out entirely [...] Today, the Trump administration is manifesting the same ambivalence [...] There are [however] concerns that American retrenchment would open the door for hostile actors—Iran and Russia—to exert dominant influence in a region that still matters.
1
Shouldn't you include too Islam approved, high level of cousin marriage leading to continuation of clan society? It's a bit tricky to build a working state apparatus, when people are mostly loyal to their clan. Not a new phenomena, already centuries ago sultans had to create unique social class of Janissary, as such forcibly converted, technically speaking slaves, were still more loyal to ruler, than his other subjects.
– Shadow1024
6 hours ago
@Shadow1024: the ethnic division can have a tribal source as well, as we saw in Syria for instance. I'm not sure how much cousin marriage has to do with that, but you're welcome to add your own answer.
– Fizz
6 hours ago
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|
This is both a pretty broad question and the answers (even from experts) are going to be opinion based to a good extent, so my answer is going to be a rather trite listicle of reasons that have been offered:
- Ethnic and religious divisions (including sectarian ones within Islam), plus a dominance/intolerance aspect thereof. E.g. one 2005 study found using a regression model
What about Islam’s “bloody innards”? Our modified variable—ethnic dominance,
Islam (which takes account of the distinction between Shia and Sunni)—displays
approximately the same values as the original one. This reinforces the conclusion that
any dominant ethnic group increases the risk for conflict, but Islamic dominance no
more so than other cases of dominance.
Some of this is indeed on the backdrop of colonially inherited borders, but that is probably an insufficient explanation, by itself.
Related to dominance, there's authoritarianism. The effect of this on conflicts has been more intensely debated. In some models there's curvilinear relationship, i.e. enough authoritarianism suppresses conflicts. But then you have the so-called boilover effect in which a seemingly stable authoritarian regime suddenly erupts when enough critical mass is attained by the accumulated discontent, relative to the regime's ability to suppress it. Alas emergent democracies are not terribly stable or violence-free either, especially on the background of the ethnic/religious issues from the previous bullet(s). We saw both of these aspects in action with the Arab Spring.
Foreign intervention, both from regional and world powers no doubt plays a role too. It's been debated to what extent this is exacerbating or moderating conflicts. E.g. peace plans vs arming/supporting one side with the obvious internationalization of conflicts. Foreign intervention probably has both effects depending on the time, place and mode of intervention, so the overall effect seems disputed.
The economic/development aspect has also been debated. The region is not as poor as Africa, nor is oil as easy to loot as other conflict-fueling resources like diamonds because of the infrastructure needed to exploit oil. This is probably what gives conflict in the Middle East a more state-based aspect.
Regarding these last two points, the following quote, albeit from a US perspective, is probably helpful nonetheless:
The interests that have long kept the United States involved in the Middle East are fairly clear. Coming out of World War II, American strategists resolved that the United States must prevent any hostile force from dominating a region of critical geopolitical or geo-economic significance. The Middle East, with its vast oil reserves, certainly fit that description. True, America never got a particularly large portion of its oil from Middle Eastern sources. But its allies did: “The Marshall Plan for Europe,” noted Truman’s first Secretary of Defense, James Forrestal, “could not succeed without access to the Middle East oil.” Moreover, the fact that oil was traded on a global market meant that a disruption of price or supply in one region would cause disruption on a far larger scale. [...]
The situation in the Middle East, Dean Acheson once commented, “might have been devised by Karl Marx himself.” A combination of stunted development, stifling socio-political conditions, and resentment of foreign influence made the region ripe for radicalism and inherently difficult for outside powers to manage. [...] The result has been a perpetual tension: The Middle East might require American attention and management, but it was also a source of dangers and distractions that most U.S. officials would have been just as happy to avoid. [...]
The 9/11 attacks offered evidence that the Middle East’s problems could reach out and touch the United States in disastrous ways. The George W. Bush administration responded with the massive projection of American power into the region, focused on defeating al-Qaeda, toppling hostile governments in Afghanistan and Iraq, birthing stable democracies, and thereby transforming the region for the better. When that project proved vastly more costly and difficult than expected, the Obama administration sought to limit U.S. engagement in the region as a way of husbanding resources, avoiding blowback, and “pivoting” to more promising areas. Yet even Obama, so skeptical of American intervention in the region, was unable to get out entirely [...] Today, the Trump administration is manifesting the same ambivalence [...] There are [however] concerns that American retrenchment would open the door for hostile actors—Iran and Russia—to exert dominant influence in a region that still matters.
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Shouldn't you include too Islam approved, high level of cousin marriage leading to continuation of clan society? It's a bit tricky to build a working state apparatus, when people are mostly loyal to their clan. Not a new phenomena, already centuries ago sultans had to create unique social class of Janissary, as such forcibly converted, technically speaking slaves, were still more loyal to ruler, than his other subjects.
– Shadow1024
6 hours ago
@Shadow1024: the ethnic division can have a tribal source as well, as we saw in Syria for instance. I'm not sure how much cousin marriage has to do with that, but you're welcome to add your own answer.
– Fizz
6 hours ago
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This is both a pretty broad question and the answers (even from experts) are going to be opinion based to a good extent, so my answer is going to be a rather trite listicle of reasons that have been offered:
- Ethnic and religious divisions (including sectarian ones within Islam), plus a dominance/intolerance aspect thereof. E.g. one 2005 study found using a regression model
What about Islam’s “bloody innards”? Our modified variable—ethnic dominance,
Islam (which takes account of the distinction between Shia and Sunni)—displays
approximately the same values as the original one. This reinforces the conclusion that
any dominant ethnic group increases the risk for conflict, but Islamic dominance no
more so than other cases of dominance.
Some of this is indeed on the backdrop of colonially inherited borders, but that is probably an insufficient explanation, by itself.
Related to dominance, there's authoritarianism. The effect of this on conflicts has been more intensely debated. In some models there's curvilinear relationship, i.e. enough authoritarianism suppresses conflicts. But then you have the so-called boilover effect in which a seemingly stable authoritarian regime suddenly erupts when enough critical mass is attained by the accumulated discontent, relative to the regime's ability to suppress it. Alas emergent democracies are not terribly stable or violence-free either, especially on the background of the ethnic/religious issues from the previous bullet(s). We saw both of these aspects in action with the Arab Spring.
Foreign intervention, both from regional and world powers no doubt plays a role too. It's been debated to what extent this is exacerbating or moderating conflicts. E.g. peace plans vs arming/supporting one side with the obvious internationalization of conflicts. Foreign intervention probably has both effects depending on the time, place and mode of intervention, so the overall effect seems disputed.
The economic/development aspect has also been debated. The region is not as poor as Africa, nor is oil as easy to loot as other conflict-fueling resources like diamonds because of the infrastructure needed to exploit oil. This is probably what gives conflict in the Middle East a more state-based aspect.
Regarding these last two points, the following quote, albeit from a US perspective, is probably helpful nonetheless:
The interests that have long kept the United States involved in the Middle East are fairly clear. Coming out of World War II, American strategists resolved that the United States must prevent any hostile force from dominating a region of critical geopolitical or geo-economic significance. The Middle East, with its vast oil reserves, certainly fit that description. True, America never got a particularly large portion of its oil from Middle Eastern sources. But its allies did: “The Marshall Plan for Europe,” noted Truman’s first Secretary of Defense, James Forrestal, “could not succeed without access to the Middle East oil.” Moreover, the fact that oil was traded on a global market meant that a disruption of price or supply in one region would cause disruption on a far larger scale. [...]
The situation in the Middle East, Dean Acheson once commented, “might have been devised by Karl Marx himself.” A combination of stunted development, stifling socio-political conditions, and resentment of foreign influence made the region ripe for radicalism and inherently difficult for outside powers to manage. [...] The result has been a perpetual tension: The Middle East might require American attention and management, but it was also a source of dangers and distractions that most U.S. officials would have been just as happy to avoid. [...]
The 9/11 attacks offered evidence that the Middle East’s problems could reach out and touch the United States in disastrous ways. The George W. Bush administration responded with the massive projection of American power into the region, focused on defeating al-Qaeda, toppling hostile governments in Afghanistan and Iraq, birthing stable democracies, and thereby transforming the region for the better. When that project proved vastly more costly and difficult than expected, the Obama administration sought to limit U.S. engagement in the region as a way of husbanding resources, avoiding blowback, and “pivoting” to more promising areas. Yet even Obama, so skeptical of American intervention in the region, was unable to get out entirely [...] Today, the Trump administration is manifesting the same ambivalence [...] There are [however] concerns that American retrenchment would open the door for hostile actors—Iran and Russia—to exert dominant influence in a region that still matters.
This is both a pretty broad question and the answers (even from experts) are going to be opinion based to a good extent, so my answer is going to be a rather trite listicle of reasons that have been offered:
- Ethnic and religious divisions (including sectarian ones within Islam), plus a dominance/intolerance aspect thereof. E.g. one 2005 study found using a regression model
What about Islam’s “bloody innards”? Our modified variable—ethnic dominance,
Islam (which takes account of the distinction between Shia and Sunni)—displays
approximately the same values as the original one. This reinforces the conclusion that
any dominant ethnic group increases the risk for conflict, but Islamic dominance no
more so than other cases of dominance.
Some of this is indeed on the backdrop of colonially inherited borders, but that is probably an insufficient explanation, by itself.
Related to dominance, there's authoritarianism. The effect of this on conflicts has been more intensely debated. In some models there's curvilinear relationship, i.e. enough authoritarianism suppresses conflicts. But then you have the so-called boilover effect in which a seemingly stable authoritarian regime suddenly erupts when enough critical mass is attained by the accumulated discontent, relative to the regime's ability to suppress it. Alas emergent democracies are not terribly stable or violence-free either, especially on the background of the ethnic/religious issues from the previous bullet(s). We saw both of these aspects in action with the Arab Spring.
Foreign intervention, both from regional and world powers no doubt plays a role too. It's been debated to what extent this is exacerbating or moderating conflicts. E.g. peace plans vs arming/supporting one side with the obvious internationalization of conflicts. Foreign intervention probably has both effects depending on the time, place and mode of intervention, so the overall effect seems disputed.
The economic/development aspect has also been debated. The region is not as poor as Africa, nor is oil as easy to loot as other conflict-fueling resources like diamonds because of the infrastructure needed to exploit oil. This is probably what gives conflict in the Middle East a more state-based aspect.
Regarding these last two points, the following quote, albeit from a US perspective, is probably helpful nonetheless:
The interests that have long kept the United States involved in the Middle East are fairly clear. Coming out of World War II, American strategists resolved that the United States must prevent any hostile force from dominating a region of critical geopolitical or geo-economic significance. The Middle East, with its vast oil reserves, certainly fit that description. True, America never got a particularly large portion of its oil from Middle Eastern sources. But its allies did: “The Marshall Plan for Europe,” noted Truman’s first Secretary of Defense, James Forrestal, “could not succeed without access to the Middle East oil.” Moreover, the fact that oil was traded on a global market meant that a disruption of price or supply in one region would cause disruption on a far larger scale. [...]
The situation in the Middle East, Dean Acheson once commented, “might have been devised by Karl Marx himself.” A combination of stunted development, stifling socio-political conditions, and resentment of foreign influence made the region ripe for radicalism and inherently difficult for outside powers to manage. [...] The result has been a perpetual tension: The Middle East might require American attention and management, but it was also a source of dangers and distractions that most U.S. officials would have been just as happy to avoid. [...]
The 9/11 attacks offered evidence that the Middle East’s problems could reach out and touch the United States in disastrous ways. The George W. Bush administration responded with the massive projection of American power into the region, focused on defeating al-Qaeda, toppling hostile governments in Afghanistan and Iraq, birthing stable democracies, and thereby transforming the region for the better. When that project proved vastly more costly and difficult than expected, the Obama administration sought to limit U.S. engagement in the region as a way of husbanding resources, avoiding blowback, and “pivoting” to more promising areas. Yet even Obama, so skeptical of American intervention in the region, was unable to get out entirely [...] Today, the Trump administration is manifesting the same ambivalence [...] There are [however] concerns that American retrenchment would open the door for hostile actors—Iran and Russia—to exert dominant influence in a region that still matters.
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Shouldn't you include too Islam approved, high level of cousin marriage leading to continuation of clan society? It's a bit tricky to build a working state apparatus, when people are mostly loyal to their clan. Not a new phenomena, already centuries ago sultans had to create unique social class of Janissary, as such forcibly converted, technically speaking slaves, were still more loyal to ruler, than his other subjects.
– Shadow1024
6 hours ago
@Shadow1024: the ethnic division can have a tribal source as well, as we saw in Syria for instance. I'm not sure how much cousin marriage has to do with that, but you're welcome to add your own answer.
– Fizz
6 hours ago
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Shouldn't you include too Islam approved, high level of cousin marriage leading to continuation of clan society? It's a bit tricky to build a working state apparatus, when people are mostly loyal to their clan. Not a new phenomena, already centuries ago sultans had to create unique social class of Janissary, as such forcibly converted, technically speaking slaves, were still more loyal to ruler, than his other subjects.
– Shadow1024
6 hours ago
@Shadow1024: the ethnic division can have a tribal source as well, as we saw in Syria for instance. I'm not sure how much cousin marriage has to do with that, but you're welcome to add your own answer.
– Fizz
6 hours ago
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Shouldn't you include too Islam approved, high level of cousin marriage leading to continuation of clan society? It's a bit tricky to build a working state apparatus, when people are mostly loyal to their clan. Not a new phenomena, already centuries ago sultans had to create unique social class of Janissary, as such forcibly converted, technically speaking slaves, were still more loyal to ruler, than his other subjects.
– Shadow1024
6 hours ago
Shouldn't you include too Islam approved, high level of cousin marriage leading to continuation of clan society? It's a bit tricky to build a working state apparatus, when people are mostly loyal to their clan. Not a new phenomena, already centuries ago sultans had to create unique social class of Janissary, as such forcibly converted, technically speaking slaves, were still more loyal to ruler, than his other subjects.
– Shadow1024
6 hours ago
@Shadow1024: the ethnic division can have a tribal source as well, as we saw in Syria for instance. I'm not sure how much cousin marriage has to do with that, but you're welcome to add your own answer.
– Fizz
6 hours ago
@Shadow1024: the ethnic division can have a tribal source as well, as we saw in Syria for instance. I'm not sure how much cousin marriage has to do with that, but you're welcome to add your own answer.
– Fizz
6 hours ago
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The Mideast does not have an especially high number of wars when compared to other non-European regions. The largest war in the Mideast was the Iran-Iraq war, which killed 2 million people. The Chinese civil war, the Vietnam war, and other conflicts in Asia killed a lot more. If you are talking about the present day, there is plenty of violence in India, Thailand, Myanmar, and Uighur provinces, it's just less apparent and not emphasized in the media.
Also, the Mideast has a lot of smaller countries. India, China, and Bangladesh have a lot of violence, but because the countries are big and isolated, it's not counted as a war.
African governments are too weak to fight each other. There is also lots of violence in Africa, it just isn't able to take on a state form.
So it's basically due to the Mideast having relatively small and functioning governments more than anything else. Wars are almost a semantic thing: there are lots of countries that have long periods of prolonged homicide which are not counted as "wars".
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The Mideast does not have an especially high number of wars when compared to other non-European regions. The largest war in the Mideast was the Iran-Iraq war, which killed 2 million people. The Chinese civil war, the Vietnam war, and other conflicts in Asia killed a lot more. If you are talking about the present day, there is plenty of violence in India, Thailand, Myanmar, and Uighur provinces, it's just less apparent and not emphasized in the media.
Also, the Mideast has a lot of smaller countries. India, China, and Bangladesh have a lot of violence, but because the countries are big and isolated, it's not counted as a war.
African governments are too weak to fight each other. There is also lots of violence in Africa, it just isn't able to take on a state form.
So it's basically due to the Mideast having relatively small and functioning governments more than anything else. Wars are almost a semantic thing: there are lots of countries that have long periods of prolonged homicide which are not counted as "wars".
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The Mideast does not have an especially high number of wars when compared to other non-European regions. The largest war in the Mideast was the Iran-Iraq war, which killed 2 million people. The Chinese civil war, the Vietnam war, and other conflicts in Asia killed a lot more. If you are talking about the present day, there is plenty of violence in India, Thailand, Myanmar, and Uighur provinces, it's just less apparent and not emphasized in the media.
Also, the Mideast has a lot of smaller countries. India, China, and Bangladesh have a lot of violence, but because the countries are big and isolated, it's not counted as a war.
African governments are too weak to fight each other. There is also lots of violence in Africa, it just isn't able to take on a state form.
So it's basically due to the Mideast having relatively small and functioning governments more than anything else. Wars are almost a semantic thing: there are lots of countries that have long periods of prolonged homicide which are not counted as "wars".
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The Mideast does not have an especially high number of wars when compared to other non-European regions. The largest war in the Mideast was the Iran-Iraq war, which killed 2 million people. The Chinese civil war, the Vietnam war, and other conflicts in Asia killed a lot more. If you are talking about the present day, there is plenty of violence in India, Thailand, Myanmar, and Uighur provinces, it's just less apparent and not emphasized in the media.
Also, the Mideast has a lot of smaller countries. India, China, and Bangladesh have a lot of violence, but because the countries are big and isolated, it's not counted as a war.
African governments are too weak to fight each other. There is also lots of violence in Africa, it just isn't able to take on a state form.
So it's basically due to the Mideast having relatively small and functioning governments more than anything else. Wars are almost a semantic thing: there are lots of countries that have long periods of prolonged homicide which are not counted as "wars".
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I don't think you're alone in having asked yourself this over the years. I'm not so sure that "Duh, Oil!" can explain everything so easily. Good question, but probably not on-topic anywhere because of the "Why".
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