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Is there such thing as an Availability Group failover trigger?



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Is there such thing as a trigger for Availability Group failovers?



I want a certain action to happen when an AG fails over. Specifically, I want to turn on a database setting (turning on RCSI). I want to do this on a failover in order to minimize disruption to 24/7 workloads and scheduled maintenance windows are hard to come by.



I know that sp_procoption can be used to mark procedures as startup procedures.
This seems like it could work for failover clusters, but not for Availability Groups.



I did consider adding an alert (sp_add_alert) on message_id=26069 in order to respond to failover actions with a sql agent job. But this seems less direct and in practice it seems slow










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  • Is this a common thing others would want? Or is it just me?

    – Michael J Swart
    9 hours ago











  • Hmm, what’s the advantage of not having RCSI enabled on the secondary by default? Is it because of the additional versioning information? (If so I Wonder if this is actually a bad thing to not have slots for versioning in your existing rows)?

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  • You can’t have different RCSI settings on primary and secondary. Any queries that read on the secondary node run under Snapshot isolation any way.

    – Michael J Swart
    6 hours ago











  • If you cannot have different settings I don’t understand what the trigger should do?

    – eckes
    6 hours ago











  • I wanted to change the setting during a failover. The timing was the important part. The change in the RCSI setting takes a small outage, so does the failover. I wanted one to happen at the same time as the other.

    – Michael J Swart
    4 hours ago


















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Is there such thing as a trigger for Availability Group failovers?



I want a certain action to happen when an AG fails over. Specifically, I want to turn on a database setting (turning on RCSI). I want to do this on a failover in order to minimize disruption to 24/7 workloads and scheduled maintenance windows are hard to come by.



I know that sp_procoption can be used to mark procedures as startup procedures.
This seems like it could work for failover clusters, but not for Availability Groups.



I did consider adding an alert (sp_add_alert) on message_id=26069 in order to respond to failover actions with a sql agent job. But this seems less direct and in practice it seems slow










share|improve this question























  • Is this a common thing others would want? Or is it just me?

    – Michael J Swart
    9 hours ago











  • Hmm, what’s the advantage of not having RCSI enabled on the secondary by default? Is it because of the additional versioning information? (If so I Wonder if this is actually a bad thing to not have slots for versioning in your existing rows)?

    – eckes
    7 hours ago











  • You can’t have different RCSI settings on primary and secondary. Any queries that read on the secondary node run under Snapshot isolation any way.

    – Michael J Swart
    6 hours ago











  • If you cannot have different settings I don’t understand what the trigger should do?

    – eckes
    6 hours ago











  • I wanted to change the setting during a failover. The timing was the important part. The change in the RCSI setting takes a small outage, so does the failover. I wanted one to happen at the same time as the other.

    – Michael J Swart
    4 hours ago














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Is there such thing as a trigger for Availability Group failovers?



I want a certain action to happen when an AG fails over. Specifically, I want to turn on a database setting (turning on RCSI). I want to do this on a failover in order to minimize disruption to 24/7 workloads and scheduled maintenance windows are hard to come by.



I know that sp_procoption can be used to mark procedures as startup procedures.
This seems like it could work for failover clusters, but not for Availability Groups.



I did consider adding an alert (sp_add_alert) on message_id=26069 in order to respond to failover actions with a sql agent job. But this seems less direct and in practice it seems slow










share|improve this question














Is there such thing as a trigger for Availability Group failovers?



I want a certain action to happen when an AG fails over. Specifically, I want to turn on a database setting (turning on RCSI). I want to do this on a failover in order to minimize disruption to 24/7 workloads and scheduled maintenance windows are hard to come by.



I know that sp_procoption can be used to mark procedures as startup procedures.
This seems like it could work for failover clusters, but not for Availability Groups.



I did consider adding an alert (sp_add_alert) on message_id=26069 in order to respond to failover actions with a sql agent job. But this seems less direct and in practice it seems slow







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  • Is this a common thing others would want? Or is it just me?

    – Michael J Swart
    9 hours ago











  • Hmm, what’s the advantage of not having RCSI enabled on the secondary by default? Is it because of the additional versioning information? (If so I Wonder if this is actually a bad thing to not have slots for versioning in your existing rows)?

    – eckes
    7 hours ago











  • You can’t have different RCSI settings on primary and secondary. Any queries that read on the secondary node run under Snapshot isolation any way.

    – Michael J Swart
    6 hours ago











  • If you cannot have different settings I don’t understand what the trigger should do?

    – eckes
    6 hours ago











  • I wanted to change the setting during a failover. The timing was the important part. The change in the RCSI setting takes a small outage, so does the failover. I wanted one to happen at the same time as the other.

    – Michael J Swart
    4 hours ago



















  • Is this a common thing others would want? Or is it just me?

    – Michael J Swart
    9 hours ago











  • Hmm, what’s the advantage of not having RCSI enabled on the secondary by default? Is it because of the additional versioning information? (If so I Wonder if this is actually a bad thing to not have slots for versioning in your existing rows)?

    – eckes
    7 hours ago











  • You can’t have different RCSI settings on primary and secondary. Any queries that read on the secondary node run under Snapshot isolation any way.

    – Michael J Swart
    6 hours ago











  • If you cannot have different settings I don’t understand what the trigger should do?

    – eckes
    6 hours ago











  • I wanted to change the setting during a failover. The timing was the important part. The change in the RCSI setting takes a small outage, so does the failover. I wanted one to happen at the same time as the other.

    – Michael J Swart
    4 hours ago

















Is this a common thing others would want? Or is it just me?

– Michael J Swart
9 hours ago





Is this a common thing others would want? Or is it just me?

– Michael J Swart
9 hours ago













Hmm, what’s the advantage of not having RCSI enabled on the secondary by default? Is it because of the additional versioning information? (If so I Wonder if this is actually a bad thing to not have slots for versioning in your existing rows)?

– eckes
7 hours ago





Hmm, what’s the advantage of not having RCSI enabled on the secondary by default? Is it because of the additional versioning information? (If so I Wonder if this is actually a bad thing to not have slots for versioning in your existing rows)?

– eckes
7 hours ago













You can’t have different RCSI settings on primary and secondary. Any queries that read on the secondary node run under Snapshot isolation any way.

– Michael J Swart
6 hours ago





You can’t have different RCSI settings on primary and secondary. Any queries that read on the secondary node run under Snapshot isolation any way.

– Michael J Swart
6 hours ago













If you cannot have different settings I don’t understand what the trigger should do?

– eckes
6 hours ago





If you cannot have different settings I don’t understand what the trigger should do?

– eckes
6 hours ago













I wanted to change the setting during a failover. The timing was the important part. The change in the RCSI setting takes a small outage, so does the failover. I wanted one to happen at the same time as the other.

– Michael J Swart
4 hours ago





I wanted to change the setting during a failover. The timing was the important part. The change in the RCSI setting takes a small outage, so does the failover. I wanted one to happen at the same time as the other.

– Michael J Swart
4 hours ago










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No. Triggers are not at an instance or AG level. You'd need to base something on the failover event or better yet, as part of a SQL Server Agent job, just check to see if that replica is the primary and then do (or not do) something.






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    I've done things like this before, but all I found available was the alerts. There's actually 2 different alerts, one that fires for each database in the AG, and another that fires when the entire AG fails over. So you have some flexibility.






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      No. Triggers are not at an instance or AG level. You'd need to base something on the failover event or better yet, as part of a SQL Server Agent job, just check to see if that replica is the primary and then do (or not do) something.






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        No. Triggers are not at an instance or AG level. You'd need to base something on the failover event or better yet, as part of a SQL Server Agent job, just check to see if that replica is the primary and then do (or not do) something.






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          No. Triggers are not at an instance or AG level. You'd need to base something on the failover event or better yet, as part of a SQL Server Agent job, just check to see if that replica is the primary and then do (or not do) something.







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              I've done things like this before, but all I found available was the alerts. There's actually 2 different alerts, one that fires for each database in the AG, and another that fires when the entire AG fails over. So you have some flexibility.






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                I've done things like this before, but all I found available was the alerts. There's actually 2 different alerts, one that fires for each database in the AG, and another that fires when the entire AG fails over. So you have some flexibility.






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                  I've done things like this before, but all I found available was the alerts. There's actually 2 different alerts, one that fires for each database in the AG, and another that fires when the entire AG fails over. So you have some flexibility.






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                  I've done things like this before, but all I found available was the alerts. There's actually 2 different alerts, one that fires for each database in the AG, and another that fires when the entire AG fails over. So you have some flexibility.







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