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How can a single Member of the House block a Congressional bill?
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I read a news article today that claims that a Congressional bill to provide disaster relief to US communities has been derailed, because a single Member of the House of Representatives objected to it.
How is it possible for a single member of congress to effectively 'veto' an entire bill like this? I thought most (if not all) votes in Congress are decided by majority vote. Was this vote different for some reason, which meant it had to be unanimous? (if so, why?)
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I read a news article today that claims that a Congressional bill to provide disaster relief to US communities has been derailed, because a single Member of the House of Representatives objected to it.
How is it possible for a single member of congress to effectively 'veto' an entire bill like this? I thought most (if not all) votes in Congress are decided by majority vote. Was this vote different for some reason, which meant it had to be unanimous? (if so, why?)
united-states congress house-of-representatives
@DenisdeBernardy there is a reference to a 'unanimous consent vote' in the article, during which Texas Representative Chip Roy apparently objected. I have no idea what this 'unanimous consent vote' is, or how/why it would be used.
– Time4Tea
8 hours ago
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@DenisdeBernardy - It wasn't even in the Senate. It was a voice-vote in the House.
– PoloHoleSet
8 hours ago
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Actually, it's two now.
– Rick Smith
8 hours ago
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I read a news article today that claims that a Congressional bill to provide disaster relief to US communities has been derailed, because a single Member of the House of Representatives objected to it.
How is it possible for a single member of congress to effectively 'veto' an entire bill like this? I thought most (if not all) votes in Congress are decided by majority vote. Was this vote different for some reason, which meant it had to be unanimous? (if so, why?)
united-states congress house-of-representatives
I read a news article today that claims that a Congressional bill to provide disaster relief to US communities has been derailed, because a single Member of the House of Representatives objected to it.
How is it possible for a single member of congress to effectively 'veto' an entire bill like this? I thought most (if not all) votes in Congress are decided by majority vote. Was this vote different for some reason, which meant it had to be unanimous? (if so, why?)
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@DenisdeBernardy there is a reference to a 'unanimous consent vote' in the article, during which Texas Representative Chip Roy apparently objected. I have no idea what this 'unanimous consent vote' is, or how/why it would be used.
– Time4Tea
8 hours ago
2
@DenisdeBernardy - It wasn't even in the Senate. It was a voice-vote in the House.
– PoloHoleSet
8 hours ago
1
Actually, it's two now.
– Rick Smith
8 hours ago
add a comment |
@DenisdeBernardy there is a reference to a 'unanimous consent vote' in the article, during which Texas Representative Chip Roy apparently objected. I have no idea what this 'unanimous consent vote' is, or how/why it would be used.
– Time4Tea
8 hours ago
2
@DenisdeBernardy - It wasn't even in the Senate. It was a voice-vote in the House.
– PoloHoleSet
8 hours ago
1
Actually, it's two now.
– Rick Smith
8 hours ago
@DenisdeBernardy there is a reference to a 'unanimous consent vote' in the article, during which Texas Representative Chip Roy apparently objected. I have no idea what this 'unanimous consent vote' is, or how/why it would be used.
– Time4Tea
8 hours ago
@DenisdeBernardy there is a reference to a 'unanimous consent vote' in the article, during which Texas Representative Chip Roy apparently objected. I have no idea what this 'unanimous consent vote' is, or how/why it would be used.
– Time4Tea
8 hours ago
2
2
@DenisdeBernardy - It wasn't even in the Senate. It was a voice-vote in the House.
– PoloHoleSet
8 hours ago
@DenisdeBernardy - It wasn't even in the Senate. It was a voice-vote in the House.
– PoloHoleSet
8 hours ago
1
1
Actually, it's two now.
– Rick Smith
8 hours ago
Actually, it's two now.
– Rick Smith
8 hours ago
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The US house (and other systems) allows for expedited voting via "unanimous consent" - without a proper vote where each member's position is noted, the Speaker simply asks for a voice vote and motions to pass with unanimous consent (which does not mean everyone votes "yes" but rather that anyone who would vote "no" effectively acknowledges that there are sufficient "yes" votes to pass, so they aren't going to waste their time).
However, any member can object to a measure passing this way, which is what happened in this case, and demand a full vote. This objection then delays the measure because it must be scheduled for a full vote.
Most reporting I have seen on the issue correctly describes this as a "delay" rather than a "veto" and indeed "delay" is a more appropriate description.
Wow, you would think Congress would be able to at least implement yes/no push buttons for this stuff, wouldn't you? Anyway, so it means the bill isn't dead, just that some time will be wasted as it has to go through a full majority vote?
– Time4Tea
8 hours ago
2
@Time4Tea In this case it's in part because the House was in a pro forma session - there weren't enough folks around for a full vote. The reason Democrats have some reason to be upset here is that it doesn't seem like they had any indication there would be a problem here (i.e., the Republican leadership was on board, this is one member's doing). Frankly, even with all the bickering between the parties right now, most of the work the House does is non-controversial and passes by these simple votes. But yes, it is not completely dead, I've updated my answer to mention this is a delay.
– Bryan Krause
8 hours ago
Ok, thanks for the additional information.
– Time4Tea
8 hours ago
2
It's also worth noting that this is more of a delay than it would otherwise be, because the House is in recess. Otherwise, they could just take the full vote immediately or the next day.
– Bobson
7 hours ago
@Time4Tea You should see how the British vote on things, then.
– zibadawa timmy
1 hour ago
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A single lawmaker didn't really veto the bill. What they "vetoed" was an instant, immediate, as-is passage of the legislation. The process is called "unanimous consent" where the idea is that, if no one objects, the bill is passed. Fast and easy.
It can still pass, but it will have to go through the usual process including scheduled debate time for the bill, which will delay things quite a bit and would probably also see some changes to the bill through negotiations, relevant committee markups, riders, or via amendments.
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The US house (and other systems) allows for expedited voting via "unanimous consent" - without a proper vote where each member's position is noted, the Speaker simply asks for a voice vote and motions to pass with unanimous consent (which does not mean everyone votes "yes" but rather that anyone who would vote "no" effectively acknowledges that there are sufficient "yes" votes to pass, so they aren't going to waste their time).
However, any member can object to a measure passing this way, which is what happened in this case, and demand a full vote. This objection then delays the measure because it must be scheduled for a full vote.
Most reporting I have seen on the issue correctly describes this as a "delay" rather than a "veto" and indeed "delay" is a more appropriate description.
Wow, you would think Congress would be able to at least implement yes/no push buttons for this stuff, wouldn't you? Anyway, so it means the bill isn't dead, just that some time will be wasted as it has to go through a full majority vote?
– Time4Tea
8 hours ago
2
@Time4Tea In this case it's in part because the House was in a pro forma session - there weren't enough folks around for a full vote. The reason Democrats have some reason to be upset here is that it doesn't seem like they had any indication there would be a problem here (i.e., the Republican leadership was on board, this is one member's doing). Frankly, even with all the bickering between the parties right now, most of the work the House does is non-controversial and passes by these simple votes. But yes, it is not completely dead, I've updated my answer to mention this is a delay.
– Bryan Krause
8 hours ago
Ok, thanks for the additional information.
– Time4Tea
8 hours ago
2
It's also worth noting that this is more of a delay than it would otherwise be, because the House is in recess. Otherwise, they could just take the full vote immediately or the next day.
– Bobson
7 hours ago
@Time4Tea You should see how the British vote on things, then.
– zibadawa timmy
1 hour ago
add a comment |
The US house (and other systems) allows for expedited voting via "unanimous consent" - without a proper vote where each member's position is noted, the Speaker simply asks for a voice vote and motions to pass with unanimous consent (which does not mean everyone votes "yes" but rather that anyone who would vote "no" effectively acknowledges that there are sufficient "yes" votes to pass, so they aren't going to waste their time).
However, any member can object to a measure passing this way, which is what happened in this case, and demand a full vote. This objection then delays the measure because it must be scheduled for a full vote.
Most reporting I have seen on the issue correctly describes this as a "delay" rather than a "veto" and indeed "delay" is a more appropriate description.
Wow, you would think Congress would be able to at least implement yes/no push buttons for this stuff, wouldn't you? Anyway, so it means the bill isn't dead, just that some time will be wasted as it has to go through a full majority vote?
– Time4Tea
8 hours ago
2
@Time4Tea In this case it's in part because the House was in a pro forma session - there weren't enough folks around for a full vote. The reason Democrats have some reason to be upset here is that it doesn't seem like they had any indication there would be a problem here (i.e., the Republican leadership was on board, this is one member's doing). Frankly, even with all the bickering between the parties right now, most of the work the House does is non-controversial and passes by these simple votes. But yes, it is not completely dead, I've updated my answer to mention this is a delay.
– Bryan Krause
8 hours ago
Ok, thanks for the additional information.
– Time4Tea
8 hours ago
2
It's also worth noting that this is more of a delay than it would otherwise be, because the House is in recess. Otherwise, they could just take the full vote immediately or the next day.
– Bobson
7 hours ago
@Time4Tea You should see how the British vote on things, then.
– zibadawa timmy
1 hour ago
add a comment |
The US house (and other systems) allows for expedited voting via "unanimous consent" - without a proper vote where each member's position is noted, the Speaker simply asks for a voice vote and motions to pass with unanimous consent (which does not mean everyone votes "yes" but rather that anyone who would vote "no" effectively acknowledges that there are sufficient "yes" votes to pass, so they aren't going to waste their time).
However, any member can object to a measure passing this way, which is what happened in this case, and demand a full vote. This objection then delays the measure because it must be scheduled for a full vote.
Most reporting I have seen on the issue correctly describes this as a "delay" rather than a "veto" and indeed "delay" is a more appropriate description.
The US house (and other systems) allows for expedited voting via "unanimous consent" - without a proper vote where each member's position is noted, the Speaker simply asks for a voice vote and motions to pass with unanimous consent (which does not mean everyone votes "yes" but rather that anyone who would vote "no" effectively acknowledges that there are sufficient "yes" votes to pass, so they aren't going to waste their time).
However, any member can object to a measure passing this way, which is what happened in this case, and demand a full vote. This objection then delays the measure because it must be scheduled for a full vote.
Most reporting I have seen on the issue correctly describes this as a "delay" rather than a "veto" and indeed "delay" is a more appropriate description.
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Wow, you would think Congress would be able to at least implement yes/no push buttons for this stuff, wouldn't you? Anyway, so it means the bill isn't dead, just that some time will be wasted as it has to go through a full majority vote?
– Time4Tea
8 hours ago
2
@Time4Tea In this case it's in part because the House was in a pro forma session - there weren't enough folks around for a full vote. The reason Democrats have some reason to be upset here is that it doesn't seem like they had any indication there would be a problem here (i.e., the Republican leadership was on board, this is one member's doing). Frankly, even with all the bickering between the parties right now, most of the work the House does is non-controversial and passes by these simple votes. But yes, it is not completely dead, I've updated my answer to mention this is a delay.
– Bryan Krause
8 hours ago
Ok, thanks for the additional information.
– Time4Tea
8 hours ago
2
It's also worth noting that this is more of a delay than it would otherwise be, because the House is in recess. Otherwise, they could just take the full vote immediately or the next day.
– Bobson
7 hours ago
@Time4Tea You should see how the British vote on things, then.
– zibadawa timmy
1 hour ago
add a comment |
Wow, you would think Congress would be able to at least implement yes/no push buttons for this stuff, wouldn't you? Anyway, so it means the bill isn't dead, just that some time will be wasted as it has to go through a full majority vote?
– Time4Tea
8 hours ago
2
@Time4Tea In this case it's in part because the House was in a pro forma session - there weren't enough folks around for a full vote. The reason Democrats have some reason to be upset here is that it doesn't seem like they had any indication there would be a problem here (i.e., the Republican leadership was on board, this is one member's doing). Frankly, even with all the bickering between the parties right now, most of the work the House does is non-controversial and passes by these simple votes. But yes, it is not completely dead, I've updated my answer to mention this is a delay.
– Bryan Krause
8 hours ago
Ok, thanks for the additional information.
– Time4Tea
8 hours ago
2
It's also worth noting that this is more of a delay than it would otherwise be, because the House is in recess. Otherwise, they could just take the full vote immediately or the next day.
– Bobson
7 hours ago
@Time4Tea You should see how the British vote on things, then.
– zibadawa timmy
1 hour ago
Wow, you would think Congress would be able to at least implement yes/no push buttons for this stuff, wouldn't you? Anyway, so it means the bill isn't dead, just that some time will be wasted as it has to go through a full majority vote?
– Time4Tea
8 hours ago
Wow, you would think Congress would be able to at least implement yes/no push buttons for this stuff, wouldn't you? Anyway, so it means the bill isn't dead, just that some time will be wasted as it has to go through a full majority vote?
– Time4Tea
8 hours ago
2
2
@Time4Tea In this case it's in part because the House was in a pro forma session - there weren't enough folks around for a full vote. The reason Democrats have some reason to be upset here is that it doesn't seem like they had any indication there would be a problem here (i.e., the Republican leadership was on board, this is one member's doing). Frankly, even with all the bickering between the parties right now, most of the work the House does is non-controversial and passes by these simple votes. But yes, it is not completely dead, I've updated my answer to mention this is a delay.
– Bryan Krause
8 hours ago
@Time4Tea In this case it's in part because the House was in a pro forma session - there weren't enough folks around for a full vote. The reason Democrats have some reason to be upset here is that it doesn't seem like they had any indication there would be a problem here (i.e., the Republican leadership was on board, this is one member's doing). Frankly, even with all the bickering between the parties right now, most of the work the House does is non-controversial and passes by these simple votes. But yes, it is not completely dead, I've updated my answer to mention this is a delay.
– Bryan Krause
8 hours ago
Ok, thanks for the additional information.
– Time4Tea
8 hours ago
Ok, thanks for the additional information.
– Time4Tea
8 hours ago
2
2
It's also worth noting that this is more of a delay than it would otherwise be, because the House is in recess. Otherwise, they could just take the full vote immediately or the next day.
– Bobson
7 hours ago
It's also worth noting that this is more of a delay than it would otherwise be, because the House is in recess. Otherwise, they could just take the full vote immediately or the next day.
– Bobson
7 hours ago
@Time4Tea You should see how the British vote on things, then.
– zibadawa timmy
1 hour ago
@Time4Tea You should see how the British vote on things, then.
– zibadawa timmy
1 hour ago
add a comment |
A single lawmaker didn't really veto the bill. What they "vetoed" was an instant, immediate, as-is passage of the legislation. The process is called "unanimous consent" where the idea is that, if no one objects, the bill is passed. Fast and easy.
It can still pass, but it will have to go through the usual process including scheduled debate time for the bill, which will delay things quite a bit and would probably also see some changes to the bill through negotiations, relevant committee markups, riders, or via amendments.
add a comment |
A single lawmaker didn't really veto the bill. What they "vetoed" was an instant, immediate, as-is passage of the legislation. The process is called "unanimous consent" where the idea is that, if no one objects, the bill is passed. Fast and easy.
It can still pass, but it will have to go through the usual process including scheduled debate time for the bill, which will delay things quite a bit and would probably also see some changes to the bill through negotiations, relevant committee markups, riders, or via amendments.
add a comment |
A single lawmaker didn't really veto the bill. What they "vetoed" was an instant, immediate, as-is passage of the legislation. The process is called "unanimous consent" where the idea is that, if no one objects, the bill is passed. Fast and easy.
It can still pass, but it will have to go through the usual process including scheduled debate time for the bill, which will delay things quite a bit and would probably also see some changes to the bill through negotiations, relevant committee markups, riders, or via amendments.
A single lawmaker didn't really veto the bill. What they "vetoed" was an instant, immediate, as-is passage of the legislation. The process is called "unanimous consent" where the idea is that, if no one objects, the bill is passed. Fast and easy.
It can still pass, but it will have to go through the usual process including scheduled debate time for the bill, which will delay things quite a bit and would probably also see some changes to the bill through negotiations, relevant committee markups, riders, or via amendments.
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@DenisdeBernardy there is a reference to a 'unanimous consent vote' in the article, during which Texas Representative Chip Roy apparently objected. I have no idea what this 'unanimous consent vote' is, or how/why it would be used.
– Time4Tea
8 hours ago
2
@DenisdeBernardy - It wasn't even in the Senate. It was a voice-vote in the House.
– PoloHoleSet
8 hours ago
1
Actually, it's two now.
– Rick Smith
8 hours ago