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I would like to know how to understand my digital home electrical meter.
This picture shows what my home meter CURRENTLY reads. I intend to unplug everything in my tiny apartment in order to get another read.
My reason?
My apartment consists of 1 SINGLE room, a kitchen, and a TINY Bathroom. That's it. Nothing else. Yet my electric bill is upwards of 370.00 a month. I calculated it should be no more than 190 at its highest possible amount. I believe my downstairs neighbors might be using electric (unknowingly) from my electrical supply.
My entire apartment is so small it only has 6 TOTAL outlets..
- My refrigerator & a bedside alarm clock for time of day viewing
- Nothing
- An unused toaster, I have used it 3 times in a year
- A microwave that gets used 10 minutes a month if that, otherwise only displaying the time of day on the front
- Nothing
Outlet 6 is the "big one":
A. A 32" LED smart TV
B. A PS4
C. Cell phone charger
D. Your regular every day home stand up lamp (100W bulb)
Extras:
A hot water heater which I believe is gas.
And depending on the season:
Winter: 1 single electric baseboard heater, JUST ONE, in the entire apartment 5 feet long.
Summer: 1 single 6000 BTU air conditioner
That's it. Even if everything is used to excess I calculated less than 190 a month yet my bill is nearly twice that. What I personally want to know is if something is going on that I don't know about. Currently all I want to do is unplug everything and check the meter while that is going on. It will take a whopping 10 minutes to do.
Can someone tell me what those numbers mean on the display? Should it read almost 0000 if I unplug everything? I even plan on unplugging my fridge, everything..
Please help. I need to find cause to get my landlord to act. I could lose my place to live over this.
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I would like to know how to understand my digital home electrical meter.
This picture shows what my home meter CURRENTLY reads. I intend to unplug everything in my tiny apartment in order to get another read.
My reason?
My apartment consists of 1 SINGLE room, a kitchen, and a TINY Bathroom. That's it. Nothing else. Yet my electric bill is upwards of 370.00 a month. I calculated it should be no more than 190 at its highest possible amount. I believe my downstairs neighbors might be using electric (unknowingly) from my electrical supply.
My entire apartment is so small it only has 6 TOTAL outlets..
- My refrigerator & a bedside alarm clock for time of day viewing
- Nothing
- An unused toaster, I have used it 3 times in a year
- A microwave that gets used 10 minutes a month if that, otherwise only displaying the time of day on the front
- Nothing
Outlet 6 is the "big one":
A. A 32" LED smart TV
B. A PS4
C. Cell phone charger
D. Your regular every day home stand up lamp (100W bulb)
Extras:
A hot water heater which I believe is gas.
And depending on the season:
Winter: 1 single electric baseboard heater, JUST ONE, in the entire apartment 5 feet long.
Summer: 1 single 6000 BTU air conditioner
That's it. Even if everything is used to excess I calculated less than 190 a month yet my bill is nearly twice that. What I personally want to know is if something is going on that I don't know about. Currently all I want to do is unplug everything and check the meter while that is going on. It will take a whopping 10 minutes to do.
Can someone tell me what those numbers mean on the display? Should it read almost 0000 if I unplug everything? I even plan on unplugging my fridge, everything..
Please help. I need to find cause to get my landlord to act. I could lose my place to live over this.
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Is your bill the same every month?
– Kris
2 days ago
7
You should also pick up a Kill-a-watt (or equivalent). You can get your price per kWh from your electric bill, plug in your appliance(s), and know exactly how much each of them uses. Granted, it only works for 110v - if your AC isn't a window unit, or plugs into a 220v/otherwise wired into the mains, you won't be able to calculate that, and they do take a lot of power.
– Wayne Werner
2 days ago
2
Also, outlet 1 is probably the big one. Your fridge probably uses more power in a month than your TV does in a year. Though your 100w bulb is also probably pretty expensive. Your cell phone charger is probably a couple of bucks a year to run, even at full charging speed.
– Wayne Werner
2 days ago
4
Call power company give them your address then read them the number on your meter. If the don’t match you are getting the wrong bill.
– Kris
2 days ago
5
Can you take a photo of your circuit breaker panel? Include the breakers and any labeling describing what each circuit does. If you don't know what I'm talking about, get googling.
– Harper
2 days ago
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I would like to know how to understand my digital home electrical meter.
This picture shows what my home meter CURRENTLY reads. I intend to unplug everything in my tiny apartment in order to get another read.
My reason?
My apartment consists of 1 SINGLE room, a kitchen, and a TINY Bathroom. That's it. Nothing else. Yet my electric bill is upwards of 370.00 a month. I calculated it should be no more than 190 at its highest possible amount. I believe my downstairs neighbors might be using electric (unknowingly) from my electrical supply.
My entire apartment is so small it only has 6 TOTAL outlets..
- My refrigerator & a bedside alarm clock for time of day viewing
- Nothing
- An unused toaster, I have used it 3 times in a year
- A microwave that gets used 10 minutes a month if that, otherwise only displaying the time of day on the front
- Nothing
Outlet 6 is the "big one":
A. A 32" LED smart TV
B. A PS4
C. Cell phone charger
D. Your regular every day home stand up lamp (100W bulb)
Extras:
A hot water heater which I believe is gas.
And depending on the season:
Winter: 1 single electric baseboard heater, JUST ONE, in the entire apartment 5 feet long.
Summer: 1 single 6000 BTU air conditioner
That's it. Even if everything is used to excess I calculated less than 190 a month yet my bill is nearly twice that. What I personally want to know is if something is going on that I don't know about. Currently all I want to do is unplug everything and check the meter while that is going on. It will take a whopping 10 minutes to do.
Can someone tell me what those numbers mean on the display? Should it read almost 0000 if I unplug everything? I even plan on unplugging my fridge, everything..
Please help. I need to find cause to get my landlord to act. I could lose my place to live over this.
electrical meter
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I would like to know how to understand my digital home electrical meter.
This picture shows what my home meter CURRENTLY reads. I intend to unplug everything in my tiny apartment in order to get another read.
My reason?
My apartment consists of 1 SINGLE room, a kitchen, and a TINY Bathroom. That's it. Nothing else. Yet my electric bill is upwards of 370.00 a month. I calculated it should be no more than 190 at its highest possible amount. I believe my downstairs neighbors might be using electric (unknowingly) from my electrical supply.
My entire apartment is so small it only has 6 TOTAL outlets..
- My refrigerator & a bedside alarm clock for time of day viewing
- Nothing
- An unused toaster, I have used it 3 times in a year
- A microwave that gets used 10 minutes a month if that, otherwise only displaying the time of day on the front
- Nothing
Outlet 6 is the "big one":
A. A 32" LED smart TV
B. A PS4
C. Cell phone charger
D. Your regular every day home stand up lamp (100W bulb)
Extras:
A hot water heater which I believe is gas.
And depending on the season:
Winter: 1 single electric baseboard heater, JUST ONE, in the entire apartment 5 feet long.
Summer: 1 single 6000 BTU air conditioner
That's it. Even if everything is used to excess I calculated less than 190 a month yet my bill is nearly twice that. What I personally want to know is if something is going on that I don't know about. Currently all I want to do is unplug everything and check the meter while that is going on. It will take a whopping 10 minutes to do.
Can someone tell me what those numbers mean on the display? Should it read almost 0000 if I unplug everything? I even plan on unplugging my fridge, everything..
Please help. I need to find cause to get my landlord to act. I could lose my place to live over this.
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Is your bill the same every month?
– Kris
2 days ago
7
You should also pick up a Kill-a-watt (or equivalent). You can get your price per kWh from your electric bill, plug in your appliance(s), and know exactly how much each of them uses. Granted, it only works for 110v - if your AC isn't a window unit, or plugs into a 220v/otherwise wired into the mains, you won't be able to calculate that, and they do take a lot of power.
– Wayne Werner
2 days ago
2
Also, outlet 1 is probably the big one. Your fridge probably uses more power in a month than your TV does in a year. Though your 100w bulb is also probably pretty expensive. Your cell phone charger is probably a couple of bucks a year to run, even at full charging speed.
– Wayne Werner
2 days ago
4
Call power company give them your address then read them the number on your meter. If the don’t match you are getting the wrong bill.
– Kris
2 days ago
5
Can you take a photo of your circuit breaker panel? Include the breakers and any labeling describing what each circuit does. If you don't know what I'm talking about, get googling.
– Harper
2 days ago
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show 10 more comments
2
Is your bill the same every month?
– Kris
2 days ago
7
You should also pick up a Kill-a-watt (or equivalent). You can get your price per kWh from your electric bill, plug in your appliance(s), and know exactly how much each of them uses. Granted, it only works for 110v - if your AC isn't a window unit, or plugs into a 220v/otherwise wired into the mains, you won't be able to calculate that, and they do take a lot of power.
– Wayne Werner
2 days ago
2
Also, outlet 1 is probably the big one. Your fridge probably uses more power in a month than your TV does in a year. Though your 100w bulb is also probably pretty expensive. Your cell phone charger is probably a couple of bucks a year to run, even at full charging speed.
– Wayne Werner
2 days ago
4
Call power company give them your address then read them the number on your meter. If the don’t match you are getting the wrong bill.
– Kris
2 days ago
5
Can you take a photo of your circuit breaker panel? Include the breakers and any labeling describing what each circuit does. If you don't know what I'm talking about, get googling.
– Harper
2 days ago
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Is your bill the same every month?
– Kris
2 days ago
Is your bill the same every month?
– Kris
2 days ago
7
7
You should also pick up a Kill-a-watt (or equivalent). You can get your price per kWh from your electric bill, plug in your appliance(s), and know exactly how much each of them uses. Granted, it only works for 110v - if your AC isn't a window unit, or plugs into a 220v/otherwise wired into the mains, you won't be able to calculate that, and they do take a lot of power.
– Wayne Werner
2 days ago
You should also pick up a Kill-a-watt (or equivalent). You can get your price per kWh from your electric bill, plug in your appliance(s), and know exactly how much each of them uses. Granted, it only works for 110v - if your AC isn't a window unit, or plugs into a 220v/otherwise wired into the mains, you won't be able to calculate that, and they do take a lot of power.
– Wayne Werner
2 days ago
2
2
Also, outlet 1 is probably the big one. Your fridge probably uses more power in a month than your TV does in a year. Though your 100w bulb is also probably pretty expensive. Your cell phone charger is probably a couple of bucks a year to run, even at full charging speed.
– Wayne Werner
2 days ago
Also, outlet 1 is probably the big one. Your fridge probably uses more power in a month than your TV does in a year. Though your 100w bulb is also probably pretty expensive. Your cell phone charger is probably a couple of bucks a year to run, even at full charging speed.
– Wayne Werner
2 days ago
4
4
Call power company give them your address then read them the number on your meter. If the don’t match you are getting the wrong bill.
– Kris
2 days ago
Call power company give them your address then read them the number on your meter. If the don’t match you are getting the wrong bill.
– Kris
2 days ago
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Can you take a photo of your circuit breaker panel? Include the breakers and any labeling describing what each circuit does. If you don't know what I'm talking about, get googling.
– Harper
2 days ago
Can you take a photo of your circuit breaker panel? Include the breakers and any labeling describing what each circuit does. If you don't know what I'm talking about, get googling.
– Harper
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They're kilowatt-hours. If you use 1000 watts for 1 hour, it'll add one to the current number displayed.
It's like an odometer on your car. It only counts up, and will never be at 0 except when it was brand new.
Where is your neighbor's meter? If you can't find a second one, chances are you're paying for their power too.
If your neighbor has their own meter, they will have their own circuit breaker panel too. If they're separate, then just turn off your breakers randomly and see if it affects your neighbor. If he complains that his heat or fridge keeps turning off then you know it's on your electrical service.
Best time to turn them off would be when they're home and trying to cook. That way they'll notice if their oven or fridge loses power.
If there is only one meter, then don't turn any breakers off. You're definitely paying for both homes if there is only one meter.
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That number will move slowly. Even if you are using 1000w of electricity it would take an entire hour to click over one number. Based on the test you want to do, unplug everything and leave the house for a few hours or sleep on it overnight and then check the readout again.
– JPhi1618
2 days ago
12
Do note that on older meters there is a disk which turns near the bottom of the meter, and one can time one revolution (or ten) to get a relative measure of current usage. The above meter apparently is all digital and doesn't have this feature, though, and also doesn't appear to have a separate current meter. (But see Greg Hill's answer for a sort of replacement.)
– Hot Licks
2 days ago
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@HotLicks on most electrical meters I've seen a digital equivalent - they'll have some kind of blinky LCD block or meter that "counts up" like the disc did.
– Wayne Werner
2 days ago
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My modern meter (in UK) has a red LED that blinks once per Watt-hour used, so once every 3.6 seconds if a kilowatt is being used. Can't see one on that photo, but maybe top or bottom or a blinky symbol at the bottom of the LCD panel?
– nigel222
yesterday
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@nigel222 Not $300/month. Lots of people have electric for primary water heating and it doesn't cost like that.
– Harper
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Dotes's suggestion for detecting whether any of your circuit breakers serves equipment for the neighbors is a good one.
There's a web page which describes how to read instantaneous current through an Itron meter. The meter model there is not the same model as in your picture, but they appear to be from the same family and are likely to display similarly. In a nutshell it says this: the three squares in the lower right corner of the display show an animation corresponding to power consumption. Each time one of these squares changes light to dark or dark to light it represents 1 Wh consumed.
It stands to reason that you could turn off or disconnect everything in your apartment and then watch these squares on the meter for several minutes to see whether power is still being consumed. If it is, start turning off breakers until you identify the circuit where the power draw happens. Then evaluate whether you can make do with that circuit left permanently turned off.
The photo seems to show another meter to the left of the one pictured. How did you determine which meter is yours? I assume they're labeled by address or unit number. Your electric bill may have the meter number printed on it. I suggest you confirm the number on the bill matches the number on the meter face -- or whether it matches one of the other meters instead.
When you do the power consumption test watch the animation on the other meters too. If the "wrong" meter shows zero power consumption, or if you're not able to match up numbers between your bill and the meter you believe is yours, then call the utility and ask for their help in confirming that your account is paying for consumption on the correct meter. I imagine it's a rare thing for the billing to get crossed, but it must not be impossible.
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"At 12 o'clock on the face (direction, not time of day) - directly above the meter an infrared light is omitted at a rate of one pulse per watt-hour usage. Okay, probably does not help you." Msny smartphone cameras will be able to see that.
– wizzwizz4
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Find your breaker panel and turn off every breaker (except the main). The meter should register no increase even after an hour. If it is still counting up, you have a problem.
Turn on one breaker and see what comes on, then turn it off and do that again for the next one. After you have done that for all of your breakers, see if there are any that you cannot identify. If there are, leave them off. If your neighbor complains about things not working in their house, you have found the issue. If they were PURPOSELY stealing electricity, they will not say a word, but your power bill will go down. If that's the case, call the utility and report the theft, let them deal with it.
If you find nothing either way, then most likely you are calculating something incorrectly, but I don't think so. You don't say where you are or what rate you pay, but I am in California where the rates are the highest in the nation (37 cents/kWH) and my 1500 sq. ft. house is costing me half as much as you are reporting. So something is definitely wrong. Normally my first suspect is the water heater, because a faulty thermostatic switch can result in it running continuously by venting excess hot water through the blow-off safety valve. But you say it's gas? Are you sure? Can you see a gas valve on the side of it and do you get a gas bill? It would be unusual for an apartment to have electric baseboard heat, but a gas water heater. It's expensive to run a gas line to a residence, so they (the gas company) will not do it unless the space heater and stove is gas too, because a water heater alone doesn't make them enough money.
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Depending on location you can have gas appliances powered by replaceable gas tanks rather than a connection to a central gas utility line.
– nick012000
2 days ago
The meter registers kilowatt-hours. Even with everything except the baseboard heater and the air conditioner running, it'll probably only tick over every three or four hours.
– Mark
yesterday
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It looks like other answers so far have given good tips, but haven't answered the question "How to read the meter" very well.
You could measure the power usage like this:
- Take a note of the current reading, e.g. 32676 kWh in your photo.
- Wait one hour.
- Take a note of the new reading, it could be e.g. 32679 kWh.
- Subtract the two values and you'll get the usage in kilowatt hours. E.g. 32679 kWh - 32676 kWh = 3 kWh. Because the time was 1 hour, this means average usage was 3 kW during this period.
But there is a severe limit on accuracy here: a small home might only use about 0.5 kW on average. So you wouldn't see if you have a small amount of extra usage, but a huge amount would be visible. You could get more accuracy by waiting for e.g. 10 hours, but I doubt you want to leave your fridge off for 10 hours.
You can check how many kWh you were billed for in your invoice. Divide that by the number of hours in the billing period and you'll know how many kW the electric company says you are using on average. For example, if your bill for 1.4.2019 to 31.4.2019 is 400 kWh, you'd calculate 400 kWh / (31 days * 24 hours) = 0.54 kW average usage.
You can then compare that average usage to your set of appliances. For example this site has many of the common appliances listed.
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For the apartment described, power draw with the heater and air conditioner off should be less than 400 watts. If you want to measure power draw, you'll want to wait at least a day, not an hour.
– Mark
yesterday
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I think the one hour mark was used to illustrate what a kilowatt-hour is vs a kilowatt.
– PhilippNagel
14 hours ago
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The first thing I would suggest is to carefully read your monthly bill. There should be a place where it tells you last month's reading and this month's reading; the difference between the two are what you are charged for, plus any standard monthly fees. You should be able to do the math pretty easily: this month - last month = kWh used; kWh used x rate = power cost; monthly fees + power cost = total bill.
Assuming power consuption isn't the problem, I can think of a few other reasons your bill may be high, all of which should be revealed by reading through the bill itself:
- Whoever (or whatever) read your meter read it wrong. If this is the case, you'd only see a single month of error; it will correct itself next month, resulting in one high bill and one low bill (or even a credit). You may follow up with your power company just in case; having a documented picture of your current meter reading should be enough to reverse a bad reading.
- If this is your first bill, it may include a "new service" fee; again, this would be a one time charge, and wouldn't show up next month.
- If your bill is in someone else's name (ie, your landlord), there is a chance that it has some sort of "bill leveling" - bills are often high in summer and low in winter (AC vs gas-powered heater), so the power company will over-charge you in winter and under-charge you in summer, resulting in similar bills. If the last occupant used a lot of power, you may be paying off their bill. Again, this should be on the bill itself, and is something to talk to the power company (and your landlord) about.
- If you aren't getting an actual bill (ie, your landlord gets the bill, then tells you the amount), ask for one! It may be that he is overcharging you, either accidentally or on purpose.
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Air conditioning uses quite a lot of power; varies of course, but you've quoted a capacity of 6000btu - a weird use of units - BTU = British Thermal Units.
On maximum, that's about 1.75KW each & every hour.
How much heat do you use in winter? - that's normally the major cost.
In the UK, its normal to be charged a fixed daily rate to cover the cost of providing the supply plus an amount related to your power consumption.
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Its amusing that BTU is a "weird use of units" to someone in the UK. In the US, that's how smaller A/C units are sized/sold. Retail boxes list the BTU rating in the largest size font, then normally have a square footage recommendation. Large central AC units are sized on their "tons" of cooling (ie. 5-ton A/C for a large home) and I can't even tell you what that means.
– JPhi1618
2 days ago
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One reason they use BTUs is to decouple it from the power consumption, which would be in KW. Nobody wants idiot consumers to confuse a heat-pump that generates 4KW of heat with consuming 4KW of power.
– Zac Faragher
yesterday
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@JPhi1618 using BTU to specify power is actually a very weird use of units anywhere in the world, as BTU is a unit of energy, not power. It is like using miles to describe speed: I can easily walk 50 miles. However, that does not make me fast, I probably need about a week to walk so far.
– Hannebambel
yesterday
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@JeremyBoden BTU is a unit of thermal transfer. When you are measuring machines that transfer heat, it is a reasonable unit because that is what you are actually measuring in the lab test. Regardless, watts is out, because "watts" is a unit being used for something else in the context of selling air conditioners. You do understand that for an air conditioner to move 1000j/sec of heat, it does not need 1000j/sec of electricity, right? Air conditioners are over-unity. Look up SEER number.
– Harper
yesterday
3
@JPhi1618, a ton of heat is enough heat to melt one short ton of ice in 24 hours. A ton of refrigeration is enough air conditioning to remove that heat. (This is a perfectly sensible unit of measurement when you're trying to get someone to replace their industrial icebox with a refrigerator, and isn't too different from the BTU's "enough heat to raise the temperature of a pound of water by 1 degree F.)
– Mark
yesterday
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They're kilowatt-hours. If you use 1000 watts for 1 hour, it'll add one to the current number displayed.
It's like an odometer on your car. It only counts up, and will never be at 0 except when it was brand new.
Where is your neighbor's meter? If you can't find a second one, chances are you're paying for their power too.
If your neighbor has their own meter, they will have their own circuit breaker panel too. If they're separate, then just turn off your breakers randomly and see if it affects your neighbor. If he complains that his heat or fridge keeps turning off then you know it's on your electrical service.
Best time to turn them off would be when they're home and trying to cook. That way they'll notice if their oven or fridge loses power.
If there is only one meter, then don't turn any breakers off. You're definitely paying for both homes if there is only one meter.
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That number will move slowly. Even if you are using 1000w of electricity it would take an entire hour to click over one number. Based on the test you want to do, unplug everything and leave the house for a few hours or sleep on it overnight and then check the readout again.
– JPhi1618
2 days ago
12
Do note that on older meters there is a disk which turns near the bottom of the meter, and one can time one revolution (or ten) to get a relative measure of current usage. The above meter apparently is all digital and doesn't have this feature, though, and also doesn't appear to have a separate current meter. (But see Greg Hill's answer for a sort of replacement.)
– Hot Licks
2 days ago
9
@HotLicks on most electrical meters I've seen a digital equivalent - they'll have some kind of blinky LCD block or meter that "counts up" like the disc did.
– Wayne Werner
2 days ago
7
My modern meter (in UK) has a red LED that blinks once per Watt-hour used, so once every 3.6 seconds if a kilowatt is being used. Can't see one on that photo, but maybe top or bottom or a blinky symbol at the bottom of the LCD panel?
– nigel222
yesterday
4
@nigel222 Not $300/month. Lots of people have electric for primary water heating and it doesn't cost like that.
– Harper
yesterday
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They're kilowatt-hours. If you use 1000 watts for 1 hour, it'll add one to the current number displayed.
It's like an odometer on your car. It only counts up, and will never be at 0 except when it was brand new.
Where is your neighbor's meter? If you can't find a second one, chances are you're paying for their power too.
If your neighbor has their own meter, they will have their own circuit breaker panel too. If they're separate, then just turn off your breakers randomly and see if it affects your neighbor. If he complains that his heat or fridge keeps turning off then you know it's on your electrical service.
Best time to turn them off would be when they're home and trying to cook. That way they'll notice if their oven or fridge loses power.
If there is only one meter, then don't turn any breakers off. You're definitely paying for both homes if there is only one meter.
3
That number will move slowly. Even if you are using 1000w of electricity it would take an entire hour to click over one number. Based on the test you want to do, unplug everything and leave the house for a few hours or sleep on it overnight and then check the readout again.
– JPhi1618
2 days ago
12
Do note that on older meters there is a disk which turns near the bottom of the meter, and one can time one revolution (or ten) to get a relative measure of current usage. The above meter apparently is all digital and doesn't have this feature, though, and also doesn't appear to have a separate current meter. (But see Greg Hill's answer for a sort of replacement.)
– Hot Licks
2 days ago
9
@HotLicks on most electrical meters I've seen a digital equivalent - they'll have some kind of blinky LCD block or meter that "counts up" like the disc did.
– Wayne Werner
2 days ago
7
My modern meter (in UK) has a red LED that blinks once per Watt-hour used, so once every 3.6 seconds if a kilowatt is being used. Can't see one on that photo, but maybe top or bottom or a blinky symbol at the bottom of the LCD panel?
– nigel222
yesterday
4
@nigel222 Not $300/month. Lots of people have electric for primary water heating and it doesn't cost like that.
– Harper
yesterday
|
show 3 more comments
They're kilowatt-hours. If you use 1000 watts for 1 hour, it'll add one to the current number displayed.
It's like an odometer on your car. It only counts up, and will never be at 0 except when it was brand new.
Where is your neighbor's meter? If you can't find a second one, chances are you're paying for their power too.
If your neighbor has their own meter, they will have their own circuit breaker panel too. If they're separate, then just turn off your breakers randomly and see if it affects your neighbor. If he complains that his heat or fridge keeps turning off then you know it's on your electrical service.
Best time to turn them off would be when they're home and trying to cook. That way they'll notice if their oven or fridge loses power.
If there is only one meter, then don't turn any breakers off. You're definitely paying for both homes if there is only one meter.
They're kilowatt-hours. If you use 1000 watts for 1 hour, it'll add one to the current number displayed.
It's like an odometer on your car. It only counts up, and will never be at 0 except when it was brand new.
Where is your neighbor's meter? If you can't find a second one, chances are you're paying for their power too.
If your neighbor has their own meter, they will have their own circuit breaker panel too. If they're separate, then just turn off your breakers randomly and see if it affects your neighbor. If he complains that his heat or fridge keeps turning off then you know it's on your electrical service.
Best time to turn them off would be when they're home and trying to cook. That way they'll notice if their oven or fridge loses power.
If there is only one meter, then don't turn any breakers off. You're definitely paying for both homes if there is only one meter.
edited 6 hours ago
Nayuki
1053
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answered 2 days ago
DotesDotes
3,283515
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That number will move slowly. Even if you are using 1000w of electricity it would take an entire hour to click over one number. Based on the test you want to do, unplug everything and leave the house for a few hours or sleep on it overnight and then check the readout again.
– JPhi1618
2 days ago
12
Do note that on older meters there is a disk which turns near the bottom of the meter, and one can time one revolution (or ten) to get a relative measure of current usage. The above meter apparently is all digital and doesn't have this feature, though, and also doesn't appear to have a separate current meter. (But see Greg Hill's answer for a sort of replacement.)
– Hot Licks
2 days ago
9
@HotLicks on most electrical meters I've seen a digital equivalent - they'll have some kind of blinky LCD block or meter that "counts up" like the disc did.
– Wayne Werner
2 days ago
7
My modern meter (in UK) has a red LED that blinks once per Watt-hour used, so once every 3.6 seconds if a kilowatt is being used. Can't see one on that photo, but maybe top or bottom or a blinky symbol at the bottom of the LCD panel?
– nigel222
yesterday
4
@nigel222 Not $300/month. Lots of people have electric for primary water heating and it doesn't cost like that.
– Harper
yesterday
|
show 3 more comments
3
That number will move slowly. Even if you are using 1000w of electricity it would take an entire hour to click over one number. Based on the test you want to do, unplug everything and leave the house for a few hours or sleep on it overnight and then check the readout again.
– JPhi1618
2 days ago
12
Do note that on older meters there is a disk which turns near the bottom of the meter, and one can time one revolution (or ten) to get a relative measure of current usage. The above meter apparently is all digital and doesn't have this feature, though, and also doesn't appear to have a separate current meter. (But see Greg Hill's answer for a sort of replacement.)
– Hot Licks
2 days ago
9
@HotLicks on most electrical meters I've seen a digital equivalent - they'll have some kind of blinky LCD block or meter that "counts up" like the disc did.
– Wayne Werner
2 days ago
7
My modern meter (in UK) has a red LED that blinks once per Watt-hour used, so once every 3.6 seconds if a kilowatt is being used. Can't see one on that photo, but maybe top or bottom or a blinky symbol at the bottom of the LCD panel?
– nigel222
yesterday
4
@nigel222 Not $300/month. Lots of people have electric for primary water heating and it doesn't cost like that.
– Harper
yesterday
3
3
That number will move slowly. Even if you are using 1000w of electricity it would take an entire hour to click over one number. Based on the test you want to do, unplug everything and leave the house for a few hours or sleep on it overnight and then check the readout again.
– JPhi1618
2 days ago
That number will move slowly. Even if you are using 1000w of electricity it would take an entire hour to click over one number. Based on the test you want to do, unplug everything and leave the house for a few hours or sleep on it overnight and then check the readout again.
– JPhi1618
2 days ago
12
12
Do note that on older meters there is a disk which turns near the bottom of the meter, and one can time one revolution (or ten) to get a relative measure of current usage. The above meter apparently is all digital and doesn't have this feature, though, and also doesn't appear to have a separate current meter. (But see Greg Hill's answer for a sort of replacement.)
– Hot Licks
2 days ago
Do note that on older meters there is a disk which turns near the bottom of the meter, and one can time one revolution (or ten) to get a relative measure of current usage. The above meter apparently is all digital and doesn't have this feature, though, and also doesn't appear to have a separate current meter. (But see Greg Hill's answer for a sort of replacement.)
– Hot Licks
2 days ago
9
9
@HotLicks on most electrical meters I've seen a digital equivalent - they'll have some kind of blinky LCD block or meter that "counts up" like the disc did.
– Wayne Werner
2 days ago
@HotLicks on most electrical meters I've seen a digital equivalent - they'll have some kind of blinky LCD block or meter that "counts up" like the disc did.
– Wayne Werner
2 days ago
7
7
My modern meter (in UK) has a red LED that blinks once per Watt-hour used, so once every 3.6 seconds if a kilowatt is being used. Can't see one on that photo, but maybe top or bottom or a blinky symbol at the bottom of the LCD panel?
– nigel222
yesterday
My modern meter (in UK) has a red LED that blinks once per Watt-hour used, so once every 3.6 seconds if a kilowatt is being used. Can't see one on that photo, but maybe top or bottom or a blinky symbol at the bottom of the LCD panel?
– nigel222
yesterday
4
4
@nigel222 Not $300/month. Lots of people have electric for primary water heating and it doesn't cost like that.
– Harper
yesterday
@nigel222 Not $300/month. Lots of people have electric for primary water heating and it doesn't cost like that.
– Harper
yesterday
|
show 3 more comments
Dotes's suggestion for detecting whether any of your circuit breakers serves equipment for the neighbors is a good one.
There's a web page which describes how to read instantaneous current through an Itron meter. The meter model there is not the same model as in your picture, but they appear to be from the same family and are likely to display similarly. In a nutshell it says this: the three squares in the lower right corner of the display show an animation corresponding to power consumption. Each time one of these squares changes light to dark or dark to light it represents 1 Wh consumed.
It stands to reason that you could turn off or disconnect everything in your apartment and then watch these squares on the meter for several minutes to see whether power is still being consumed. If it is, start turning off breakers until you identify the circuit where the power draw happens. Then evaluate whether you can make do with that circuit left permanently turned off.
The photo seems to show another meter to the left of the one pictured. How did you determine which meter is yours? I assume they're labeled by address or unit number. Your electric bill may have the meter number printed on it. I suggest you confirm the number on the bill matches the number on the meter face -- or whether it matches one of the other meters instead.
When you do the power consumption test watch the animation on the other meters too. If the "wrong" meter shows zero power consumption, or if you're not able to match up numbers between your bill and the meter you believe is yours, then call the utility and ask for their help in confirming that your account is paying for consumption on the correct meter. I imagine it's a rare thing for the billing to get crossed, but it must not be impossible.
2
"At 12 o'clock on the face (direction, not time of day) - directly above the meter an infrared light is omitted at a rate of one pulse per watt-hour usage. Okay, probably does not help you." Msny smartphone cameras will be able to see that.
– wizzwizz4
yesterday
add a comment |
Dotes's suggestion for detecting whether any of your circuit breakers serves equipment for the neighbors is a good one.
There's a web page which describes how to read instantaneous current through an Itron meter. The meter model there is not the same model as in your picture, but they appear to be from the same family and are likely to display similarly. In a nutshell it says this: the three squares in the lower right corner of the display show an animation corresponding to power consumption. Each time one of these squares changes light to dark or dark to light it represents 1 Wh consumed.
It stands to reason that you could turn off or disconnect everything in your apartment and then watch these squares on the meter for several minutes to see whether power is still being consumed. If it is, start turning off breakers until you identify the circuit where the power draw happens. Then evaluate whether you can make do with that circuit left permanently turned off.
The photo seems to show another meter to the left of the one pictured. How did you determine which meter is yours? I assume they're labeled by address or unit number. Your electric bill may have the meter number printed on it. I suggest you confirm the number on the bill matches the number on the meter face -- or whether it matches one of the other meters instead.
When you do the power consumption test watch the animation on the other meters too. If the "wrong" meter shows zero power consumption, or if you're not able to match up numbers between your bill and the meter you believe is yours, then call the utility and ask for their help in confirming that your account is paying for consumption on the correct meter. I imagine it's a rare thing for the billing to get crossed, but it must not be impossible.
2
"At 12 o'clock on the face (direction, not time of day) - directly above the meter an infrared light is omitted at a rate of one pulse per watt-hour usage. Okay, probably does not help you." Msny smartphone cameras will be able to see that.
– wizzwizz4
yesterday
add a comment |
Dotes's suggestion for detecting whether any of your circuit breakers serves equipment for the neighbors is a good one.
There's a web page which describes how to read instantaneous current through an Itron meter. The meter model there is not the same model as in your picture, but they appear to be from the same family and are likely to display similarly. In a nutshell it says this: the three squares in the lower right corner of the display show an animation corresponding to power consumption. Each time one of these squares changes light to dark or dark to light it represents 1 Wh consumed.
It stands to reason that you could turn off or disconnect everything in your apartment and then watch these squares on the meter for several minutes to see whether power is still being consumed. If it is, start turning off breakers until you identify the circuit where the power draw happens. Then evaluate whether you can make do with that circuit left permanently turned off.
The photo seems to show another meter to the left of the one pictured. How did you determine which meter is yours? I assume they're labeled by address or unit number. Your electric bill may have the meter number printed on it. I suggest you confirm the number on the bill matches the number on the meter face -- or whether it matches one of the other meters instead.
When you do the power consumption test watch the animation on the other meters too. If the "wrong" meter shows zero power consumption, or if you're not able to match up numbers between your bill and the meter you believe is yours, then call the utility and ask for their help in confirming that your account is paying for consumption on the correct meter. I imagine it's a rare thing for the billing to get crossed, but it must not be impossible.
Dotes's suggestion for detecting whether any of your circuit breakers serves equipment for the neighbors is a good one.
There's a web page which describes how to read instantaneous current through an Itron meter. The meter model there is not the same model as in your picture, but they appear to be from the same family and are likely to display similarly. In a nutshell it says this: the three squares in the lower right corner of the display show an animation corresponding to power consumption. Each time one of these squares changes light to dark or dark to light it represents 1 Wh consumed.
It stands to reason that you could turn off or disconnect everything in your apartment and then watch these squares on the meter for several minutes to see whether power is still being consumed. If it is, start turning off breakers until you identify the circuit where the power draw happens. Then evaluate whether you can make do with that circuit left permanently turned off.
The photo seems to show another meter to the left of the one pictured. How did you determine which meter is yours? I assume they're labeled by address or unit number. Your electric bill may have the meter number printed on it. I suggest you confirm the number on the bill matches the number on the meter face -- or whether it matches one of the other meters instead.
When you do the power consumption test watch the animation on the other meters too. If the "wrong" meter shows zero power consumption, or if you're not able to match up numbers between your bill and the meter you believe is yours, then call the utility and ask for their help in confirming that your account is paying for consumption on the correct meter. I imagine it's a rare thing for the billing to get crossed, but it must not be impossible.
edited 10 hours ago
yoozer8
1419
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answered 2 days ago
Greg HillGreg Hill
82636
82636
2
"At 12 o'clock on the face (direction, not time of day) - directly above the meter an infrared light is omitted at a rate of one pulse per watt-hour usage. Okay, probably does not help you." Msny smartphone cameras will be able to see that.
– wizzwizz4
yesterday
add a comment |
2
"At 12 o'clock on the face (direction, not time of day) - directly above the meter an infrared light is omitted at a rate of one pulse per watt-hour usage. Okay, probably does not help you." Msny smartphone cameras will be able to see that.
– wizzwizz4
yesterday
2
2
"At 12 o'clock on the face (direction, not time of day) - directly above the meter an infrared light is omitted at a rate of one pulse per watt-hour usage. Okay, probably does not help you." Msny smartphone cameras will be able to see that.
– wizzwizz4
yesterday
"At 12 o'clock on the face (direction, not time of day) - directly above the meter an infrared light is omitted at a rate of one pulse per watt-hour usage. Okay, probably does not help you." Msny smartphone cameras will be able to see that.
– wizzwizz4
yesterday
add a comment |
Find your breaker panel and turn off every breaker (except the main). The meter should register no increase even after an hour. If it is still counting up, you have a problem.
Turn on one breaker and see what comes on, then turn it off and do that again for the next one. After you have done that for all of your breakers, see if there are any that you cannot identify. If there are, leave them off. If your neighbor complains about things not working in their house, you have found the issue. If they were PURPOSELY stealing electricity, they will not say a word, but your power bill will go down. If that's the case, call the utility and report the theft, let them deal with it.
If you find nothing either way, then most likely you are calculating something incorrectly, but I don't think so. You don't say where you are or what rate you pay, but I am in California where the rates are the highest in the nation (37 cents/kWH) and my 1500 sq. ft. house is costing me half as much as you are reporting. So something is definitely wrong. Normally my first suspect is the water heater, because a faulty thermostatic switch can result in it running continuously by venting excess hot water through the blow-off safety valve. But you say it's gas? Are you sure? Can you see a gas valve on the side of it and do you get a gas bill? It would be unusual for an apartment to have electric baseboard heat, but a gas water heater. It's expensive to run a gas line to a residence, so they (the gas company) will not do it unless the space heater and stove is gas too, because a water heater alone doesn't make them enough money.
2
Depending on location you can have gas appliances powered by replaceable gas tanks rather than a connection to a central gas utility line.
– nick012000
2 days ago
The meter registers kilowatt-hours. Even with everything except the baseboard heater and the air conditioner running, it'll probably only tick over every three or four hours.
– Mark
yesterday
add a comment |
Find your breaker panel and turn off every breaker (except the main). The meter should register no increase even after an hour. If it is still counting up, you have a problem.
Turn on one breaker and see what comes on, then turn it off and do that again for the next one. After you have done that for all of your breakers, see if there are any that you cannot identify. If there are, leave them off. If your neighbor complains about things not working in their house, you have found the issue. If they were PURPOSELY stealing electricity, they will not say a word, but your power bill will go down. If that's the case, call the utility and report the theft, let them deal with it.
If you find nothing either way, then most likely you are calculating something incorrectly, but I don't think so. You don't say where you are or what rate you pay, but I am in California where the rates are the highest in the nation (37 cents/kWH) and my 1500 sq. ft. house is costing me half as much as you are reporting. So something is definitely wrong. Normally my first suspect is the water heater, because a faulty thermostatic switch can result in it running continuously by venting excess hot water through the blow-off safety valve. But you say it's gas? Are you sure? Can you see a gas valve on the side of it and do you get a gas bill? It would be unusual for an apartment to have electric baseboard heat, but a gas water heater. It's expensive to run a gas line to a residence, so they (the gas company) will not do it unless the space heater and stove is gas too, because a water heater alone doesn't make them enough money.
2
Depending on location you can have gas appliances powered by replaceable gas tanks rather than a connection to a central gas utility line.
– nick012000
2 days ago
The meter registers kilowatt-hours. Even with everything except the baseboard heater and the air conditioner running, it'll probably only tick over every three or four hours.
– Mark
yesterday
add a comment |
Find your breaker panel and turn off every breaker (except the main). The meter should register no increase even after an hour. If it is still counting up, you have a problem.
Turn on one breaker and see what comes on, then turn it off and do that again for the next one. After you have done that for all of your breakers, see if there are any that you cannot identify. If there are, leave them off. If your neighbor complains about things not working in their house, you have found the issue. If they were PURPOSELY stealing electricity, they will not say a word, but your power bill will go down. If that's the case, call the utility and report the theft, let them deal with it.
If you find nothing either way, then most likely you are calculating something incorrectly, but I don't think so. You don't say where you are or what rate you pay, but I am in California where the rates are the highest in the nation (37 cents/kWH) and my 1500 sq. ft. house is costing me half as much as you are reporting. So something is definitely wrong. Normally my first suspect is the water heater, because a faulty thermostatic switch can result in it running continuously by venting excess hot water through the blow-off safety valve. But you say it's gas? Are you sure? Can you see a gas valve on the side of it and do you get a gas bill? It would be unusual for an apartment to have electric baseboard heat, but a gas water heater. It's expensive to run a gas line to a residence, so they (the gas company) will not do it unless the space heater and stove is gas too, because a water heater alone doesn't make them enough money.
Find your breaker panel and turn off every breaker (except the main). The meter should register no increase even after an hour. If it is still counting up, you have a problem.
Turn on one breaker and see what comes on, then turn it off and do that again for the next one. After you have done that for all of your breakers, see if there are any that you cannot identify. If there are, leave them off. If your neighbor complains about things not working in their house, you have found the issue. If they were PURPOSELY stealing electricity, they will not say a word, but your power bill will go down. If that's the case, call the utility and report the theft, let them deal with it.
If you find nothing either way, then most likely you are calculating something incorrectly, but I don't think so. You don't say where you are or what rate you pay, but I am in California where the rates are the highest in the nation (37 cents/kWH) and my 1500 sq. ft. house is costing me half as much as you are reporting. So something is definitely wrong. Normally my first suspect is the water heater, because a faulty thermostatic switch can result in it running continuously by venting excess hot water through the blow-off safety valve. But you say it's gas? Are you sure? Can you see a gas valve on the side of it and do you get a gas bill? It would be unusual for an apartment to have electric baseboard heat, but a gas water heater. It's expensive to run a gas line to a residence, so they (the gas company) will not do it unless the space heater and stove is gas too, because a water heater alone doesn't make them enough money.
answered 2 days ago
J. RaefieldJ. Raefield
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Depending on location you can have gas appliances powered by replaceable gas tanks rather than a connection to a central gas utility line.
– nick012000
2 days ago
The meter registers kilowatt-hours. Even with everything except the baseboard heater and the air conditioner running, it'll probably only tick over every three or four hours.
– Mark
yesterday
add a comment |
2
Depending on location you can have gas appliances powered by replaceable gas tanks rather than a connection to a central gas utility line.
– nick012000
2 days ago
The meter registers kilowatt-hours. Even with everything except the baseboard heater and the air conditioner running, it'll probably only tick over every three or four hours.
– Mark
yesterday
2
2
Depending on location you can have gas appliances powered by replaceable gas tanks rather than a connection to a central gas utility line.
– nick012000
2 days ago
Depending on location you can have gas appliances powered by replaceable gas tanks rather than a connection to a central gas utility line.
– nick012000
2 days ago
The meter registers kilowatt-hours. Even with everything except the baseboard heater and the air conditioner running, it'll probably only tick over every three or four hours.
– Mark
yesterday
The meter registers kilowatt-hours. Even with everything except the baseboard heater and the air conditioner running, it'll probably only tick over every three or four hours.
– Mark
yesterday
add a comment |
It looks like other answers so far have given good tips, but haven't answered the question "How to read the meter" very well.
You could measure the power usage like this:
- Take a note of the current reading, e.g. 32676 kWh in your photo.
- Wait one hour.
- Take a note of the new reading, it could be e.g. 32679 kWh.
- Subtract the two values and you'll get the usage in kilowatt hours. E.g. 32679 kWh - 32676 kWh = 3 kWh. Because the time was 1 hour, this means average usage was 3 kW during this period.
But there is a severe limit on accuracy here: a small home might only use about 0.5 kW on average. So you wouldn't see if you have a small amount of extra usage, but a huge amount would be visible. You could get more accuracy by waiting for e.g. 10 hours, but I doubt you want to leave your fridge off for 10 hours.
You can check how many kWh you were billed for in your invoice. Divide that by the number of hours in the billing period and you'll know how many kW the electric company says you are using on average. For example, if your bill for 1.4.2019 to 31.4.2019 is 400 kWh, you'd calculate 400 kWh / (31 days * 24 hours) = 0.54 kW average usage.
You can then compare that average usage to your set of appliances. For example this site has many of the common appliances listed.
1
For the apartment described, power draw with the heater and air conditioner off should be less than 400 watts. If you want to measure power draw, you'll want to wait at least a day, not an hour.
– Mark
yesterday
1
I think the one hour mark was used to illustrate what a kilowatt-hour is vs a kilowatt.
– PhilippNagel
14 hours ago
add a comment |
It looks like other answers so far have given good tips, but haven't answered the question "How to read the meter" very well.
You could measure the power usage like this:
- Take a note of the current reading, e.g. 32676 kWh in your photo.
- Wait one hour.
- Take a note of the new reading, it could be e.g. 32679 kWh.
- Subtract the two values and you'll get the usage in kilowatt hours. E.g. 32679 kWh - 32676 kWh = 3 kWh. Because the time was 1 hour, this means average usage was 3 kW during this period.
But there is a severe limit on accuracy here: a small home might only use about 0.5 kW on average. So you wouldn't see if you have a small amount of extra usage, but a huge amount would be visible. You could get more accuracy by waiting for e.g. 10 hours, but I doubt you want to leave your fridge off for 10 hours.
You can check how many kWh you were billed for in your invoice. Divide that by the number of hours in the billing period and you'll know how many kW the electric company says you are using on average. For example, if your bill for 1.4.2019 to 31.4.2019 is 400 kWh, you'd calculate 400 kWh / (31 days * 24 hours) = 0.54 kW average usage.
You can then compare that average usage to your set of appliances. For example this site has many of the common appliances listed.
1
For the apartment described, power draw with the heater and air conditioner off should be less than 400 watts. If you want to measure power draw, you'll want to wait at least a day, not an hour.
– Mark
yesterday
1
I think the one hour mark was used to illustrate what a kilowatt-hour is vs a kilowatt.
– PhilippNagel
14 hours ago
add a comment |
It looks like other answers so far have given good tips, but haven't answered the question "How to read the meter" very well.
You could measure the power usage like this:
- Take a note of the current reading, e.g. 32676 kWh in your photo.
- Wait one hour.
- Take a note of the new reading, it could be e.g. 32679 kWh.
- Subtract the two values and you'll get the usage in kilowatt hours. E.g. 32679 kWh - 32676 kWh = 3 kWh. Because the time was 1 hour, this means average usage was 3 kW during this period.
But there is a severe limit on accuracy here: a small home might only use about 0.5 kW on average. So you wouldn't see if you have a small amount of extra usage, but a huge amount would be visible. You could get more accuracy by waiting for e.g. 10 hours, but I doubt you want to leave your fridge off for 10 hours.
You can check how many kWh you were billed for in your invoice. Divide that by the number of hours in the billing period and you'll know how many kW the electric company says you are using on average. For example, if your bill for 1.4.2019 to 31.4.2019 is 400 kWh, you'd calculate 400 kWh / (31 days * 24 hours) = 0.54 kW average usage.
You can then compare that average usage to your set of appliances. For example this site has many of the common appliances listed.
It looks like other answers so far have given good tips, but haven't answered the question "How to read the meter" very well.
You could measure the power usage like this:
- Take a note of the current reading, e.g. 32676 kWh in your photo.
- Wait one hour.
- Take a note of the new reading, it could be e.g. 32679 kWh.
- Subtract the two values and you'll get the usage in kilowatt hours. E.g. 32679 kWh - 32676 kWh = 3 kWh. Because the time was 1 hour, this means average usage was 3 kW during this period.
But there is a severe limit on accuracy here: a small home might only use about 0.5 kW on average. So you wouldn't see if you have a small amount of extra usage, but a huge amount would be visible. You could get more accuracy by waiting for e.g. 10 hours, but I doubt you want to leave your fridge off for 10 hours.
You can check how many kWh you were billed for in your invoice. Divide that by the number of hours in the billing period and you'll know how many kW the electric company says you are using on average. For example, if your bill for 1.4.2019 to 31.4.2019 is 400 kWh, you'd calculate 400 kWh / (31 days * 24 hours) = 0.54 kW average usage.
You can then compare that average usage to your set of appliances. For example this site has many of the common appliances listed.
answered yesterday
jpajpa
33015
33015
1
For the apartment described, power draw with the heater and air conditioner off should be less than 400 watts. If you want to measure power draw, you'll want to wait at least a day, not an hour.
– Mark
yesterday
1
I think the one hour mark was used to illustrate what a kilowatt-hour is vs a kilowatt.
– PhilippNagel
14 hours ago
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1
For the apartment described, power draw with the heater and air conditioner off should be less than 400 watts. If you want to measure power draw, you'll want to wait at least a day, not an hour.
– Mark
yesterday
1
I think the one hour mark was used to illustrate what a kilowatt-hour is vs a kilowatt.
– PhilippNagel
14 hours ago
1
1
For the apartment described, power draw with the heater and air conditioner off should be less than 400 watts. If you want to measure power draw, you'll want to wait at least a day, not an hour.
– Mark
yesterday
For the apartment described, power draw with the heater and air conditioner off should be less than 400 watts. If you want to measure power draw, you'll want to wait at least a day, not an hour.
– Mark
yesterday
1
1
I think the one hour mark was used to illustrate what a kilowatt-hour is vs a kilowatt.
– PhilippNagel
14 hours ago
I think the one hour mark was used to illustrate what a kilowatt-hour is vs a kilowatt.
– PhilippNagel
14 hours ago
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The first thing I would suggest is to carefully read your monthly bill. There should be a place where it tells you last month's reading and this month's reading; the difference between the two are what you are charged for, plus any standard monthly fees. You should be able to do the math pretty easily: this month - last month = kWh used; kWh used x rate = power cost; monthly fees + power cost = total bill.
Assuming power consuption isn't the problem, I can think of a few other reasons your bill may be high, all of which should be revealed by reading through the bill itself:
- Whoever (or whatever) read your meter read it wrong. If this is the case, you'd only see a single month of error; it will correct itself next month, resulting in one high bill and one low bill (or even a credit). You may follow up with your power company just in case; having a documented picture of your current meter reading should be enough to reverse a bad reading.
- If this is your first bill, it may include a "new service" fee; again, this would be a one time charge, and wouldn't show up next month.
- If your bill is in someone else's name (ie, your landlord), there is a chance that it has some sort of "bill leveling" - bills are often high in summer and low in winter (AC vs gas-powered heater), so the power company will over-charge you in winter and under-charge you in summer, resulting in similar bills. If the last occupant used a lot of power, you may be paying off their bill. Again, this should be on the bill itself, and is something to talk to the power company (and your landlord) about.
- If you aren't getting an actual bill (ie, your landlord gets the bill, then tells you the amount), ask for one! It may be that he is overcharging you, either accidentally or on purpose.
add a comment |
The first thing I would suggest is to carefully read your monthly bill. There should be a place where it tells you last month's reading and this month's reading; the difference between the two are what you are charged for, plus any standard monthly fees. You should be able to do the math pretty easily: this month - last month = kWh used; kWh used x rate = power cost; monthly fees + power cost = total bill.
Assuming power consuption isn't the problem, I can think of a few other reasons your bill may be high, all of which should be revealed by reading through the bill itself:
- Whoever (or whatever) read your meter read it wrong. If this is the case, you'd only see a single month of error; it will correct itself next month, resulting in one high bill and one low bill (or even a credit). You may follow up with your power company just in case; having a documented picture of your current meter reading should be enough to reverse a bad reading.
- If this is your first bill, it may include a "new service" fee; again, this would be a one time charge, and wouldn't show up next month.
- If your bill is in someone else's name (ie, your landlord), there is a chance that it has some sort of "bill leveling" - bills are often high in summer and low in winter (AC vs gas-powered heater), so the power company will over-charge you in winter and under-charge you in summer, resulting in similar bills. If the last occupant used a lot of power, you may be paying off their bill. Again, this should be on the bill itself, and is something to talk to the power company (and your landlord) about.
- If you aren't getting an actual bill (ie, your landlord gets the bill, then tells you the amount), ask for one! It may be that he is overcharging you, either accidentally or on purpose.
add a comment |
The first thing I would suggest is to carefully read your monthly bill. There should be a place where it tells you last month's reading and this month's reading; the difference between the two are what you are charged for, plus any standard monthly fees. You should be able to do the math pretty easily: this month - last month = kWh used; kWh used x rate = power cost; monthly fees + power cost = total bill.
Assuming power consuption isn't the problem, I can think of a few other reasons your bill may be high, all of which should be revealed by reading through the bill itself:
- Whoever (or whatever) read your meter read it wrong. If this is the case, you'd only see a single month of error; it will correct itself next month, resulting in one high bill and one low bill (or even a credit). You may follow up with your power company just in case; having a documented picture of your current meter reading should be enough to reverse a bad reading.
- If this is your first bill, it may include a "new service" fee; again, this would be a one time charge, and wouldn't show up next month.
- If your bill is in someone else's name (ie, your landlord), there is a chance that it has some sort of "bill leveling" - bills are often high in summer and low in winter (AC vs gas-powered heater), so the power company will over-charge you in winter and under-charge you in summer, resulting in similar bills. If the last occupant used a lot of power, you may be paying off their bill. Again, this should be on the bill itself, and is something to talk to the power company (and your landlord) about.
- If you aren't getting an actual bill (ie, your landlord gets the bill, then tells you the amount), ask for one! It may be that he is overcharging you, either accidentally or on purpose.
The first thing I would suggest is to carefully read your monthly bill. There should be a place where it tells you last month's reading and this month's reading; the difference between the two are what you are charged for, plus any standard monthly fees. You should be able to do the math pretty easily: this month - last month = kWh used; kWh used x rate = power cost; monthly fees + power cost = total bill.
Assuming power consuption isn't the problem, I can think of a few other reasons your bill may be high, all of which should be revealed by reading through the bill itself:
- Whoever (or whatever) read your meter read it wrong. If this is the case, you'd only see a single month of error; it will correct itself next month, resulting in one high bill and one low bill (or even a credit). You may follow up with your power company just in case; having a documented picture of your current meter reading should be enough to reverse a bad reading.
- If this is your first bill, it may include a "new service" fee; again, this would be a one time charge, and wouldn't show up next month.
- If your bill is in someone else's name (ie, your landlord), there is a chance that it has some sort of "bill leveling" - bills are often high in summer and low in winter (AC vs gas-powered heater), so the power company will over-charge you in winter and under-charge you in summer, resulting in similar bills. If the last occupant used a lot of power, you may be paying off their bill. Again, this should be on the bill itself, and is something to talk to the power company (and your landlord) about.
- If you aren't getting an actual bill (ie, your landlord gets the bill, then tells you the amount), ask for one! It may be that he is overcharging you, either accidentally or on purpose.
answered yesterday
ArmanXArmanX
243210
243210
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Air conditioning uses quite a lot of power; varies of course, but you've quoted a capacity of 6000btu - a weird use of units - BTU = British Thermal Units.
On maximum, that's about 1.75KW each & every hour.
How much heat do you use in winter? - that's normally the major cost.
In the UK, its normal to be charged a fixed daily rate to cover the cost of providing the supply plus an amount related to your power consumption.
10
Its amusing that BTU is a "weird use of units" to someone in the UK. In the US, that's how smaller A/C units are sized/sold. Retail boxes list the BTU rating in the largest size font, then normally have a square footage recommendation. Large central AC units are sized on their "tons" of cooling (ie. 5-ton A/C for a large home) and I can't even tell you what that means.
– JPhi1618
2 days ago
2
One reason they use BTUs is to decouple it from the power consumption, which would be in KW. Nobody wants idiot consumers to confuse a heat-pump that generates 4KW of heat with consuming 4KW of power.
– Zac Faragher
yesterday
5
@JPhi1618 using BTU to specify power is actually a very weird use of units anywhere in the world, as BTU is a unit of energy, not power. It is like using miles to describe speed: I can easily walk 50 miles. However, that does not make me fast, I probably need about a week to walk so far.
– Hannebambel
yesterday
3
@JeremyBoden BTU is a unit of thermal transfer. When you are measuring machines that transfer heat, it is a reasonable unit because that is what you are actually measuring in the lab test. Regardless, watts is out, because "watts" is a unit being used for something else in the context of selling air conditioners. You do understand that for an air conditioner to move 1000j/sec of heat, it does not need 1000j/sec of electricity, right? Air conditioners are over-unity. Look up SEER number.
– Harper
yesterday
3
@JPhi1618, a ton of heat is enough heat to melt one short ton of ice in 24 hours. A ton of refrigeration is enough air conditioning to remove that heat. (This is a perfectly sensible unit of measurement when you're trying to get someone to replace their industrial icebox with a refrigerator, and isn't too different from the BTU's "enough heat to raise the temperature of a pound of water by 1 degree F.)
– Mark
yesterday
|
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Air conditioning uses quite a lot of power; varies of course, but you've quoted a capacity of 6000btu - a weird use of units - BTU = British Thermal Units.
On maximum, that's about 1.75KW each & every hour.
How much heat do you use in winter? - that's normally the major cost.
In the UK, its normal to be charged a fixed daily rate to cover the cost of providing the supply plus an amount related to your power consumption.
10
Its amusing that BTU is a "weird use of units" to someone in the UK. In the US, that's how smaller A/C units are sized/sold. Retail boxes list the BTU rating in the largest size font, then normally have a square footage recommendation. Large central AC units are sized on their "tons" of cooling (ie. 5-ton A/C for a large home) and I can't even tell you what that means.
– JPhi1618
2 days ago
2
One reason they use BTUs is to decouple it from the power consumption, which would be in KW. Nobody wants idiot consumers to confuse a heat-pump that generates 4KW of heat with consuming 4KW of power.
– Zac Faragher
yesterday
5
@JPhi1618 using BTU to specify power is actually a very weird use of units anywhere in the world, as BTU is a unit of energy, not power. It is like using miles to describe speed: I can easily walk 50 miles. However, that does not make me fast, I probably need about a week to walk so far.
– Hannebambel
yesterday
3
@JeremyBoden BTU is a unit of thermal transfer. When you are measuring machines that transfer heat, it is a reasonable unit because that is what you are actually measuring in the lab test. Regardless, watts is out, because "watts" is a unit being used for something else in the context of selling air conditioners. You do understand that for an air conditioner to move 1000j/sec of heat, it does not need 1000j/sec of electricity, right? Air conditioners are over-unity. Look up SEER number.
– Harper
yesterday
3
@JPhi1618, a ton of heat is enough heat to melt one short ton of ice in 24 hours. A ton of refrigeration is enough air conditioning to remove that heat. (This is a perfectly sensible unit of measurement when you're trying to get someone to replace their industrial icebox with a refrigerator, and isn't too different from the BTU's "enough heat to raise the temperature of a pound of water by 1 degree F.)
– Mark
yesterday
|
show 9 more comments
Air conditioning uses quite a lot of power; varies of course, but you've quoted a capacity of 6000btu - a weird use of units - BTU = British Thermal Units.
On maximum, that's about 1.75KW each & every hour.
How much heat do you use in winter? - that's normally the major cost.
In the UK, its normal to be charged a fixed daily rate to cover the cost of providing the supply plus an amount related to your power consumption.
Air conditioning uses quite a lot of power; varies of course, but you've quoted a capacity of 6000btu - a weird use of units - BTU = British Thermal Units.
On maximum, that's about 1.75KW each & every hour.
How much heat do you use in winter? - that's normally the major cost.
In the UK, its normal to be charged a fixed daily rate to cover the cost of providing the supply plus an amount related to your power consumption.
answered 2 days ago
Jeremy BodenJeremy Boden
412
412
10
Its amusing that BTU is a "weird use of units" to someone in the UK. In the US, that's how smaller A/C units are sized/sold. Retail boxes list the BTU rating in the largest size font, then normally have a square footage recommendation. Large central AC units are sized on their "tons" of cooling (ie. 5-ton A/C for a large home) and I can't even tell you what that means.
– JPhi1618
2 days ago
2
One reason they use BTUs is to decouple it from the power consumption, which would be in KW. Nobody wants idiot consumers to confuse a heat-pump that generates 4KW of heat with consuming 4KW of power.
– Zac Faragher
yesterday
5
@JPhi1618 using BTU to specify power is actually a very weird use of units anywhere in the world, as BTU is a unit of energy, not power. It is like using miles to describe speed: I can easily walk 50 miles. However, that does not make me fast, I probably need about a week to walk so far.
– Hannebambel
yesterday
3
@JeremyBoden BTU is a unit of thermal transfer. When you are measuring machines that transfer heat, it is a reasonable unit because that is what you are actually measuring in the lab test. Regardless, watts is out, because "watts" is a unit being used for something else in the context of selling air conditioners. You do understand that for an air conditioner to move 1000j/sec of heat, it does not need 1000j/sec of electricity, right? Air conditioners are over-unity. Look up SEER number.
– Harper
yesterday
3
@JPhi1618, a ton of heat is enough heat to melt one short ton of ice in 24 hours. A ton of refrigeration is enough air conditioning to remove that heat. (This is a perfectly sensible unit of measurement when you're trying to get someone to replace their industrial icebox with a refrigerator, and isn't too different from the BTU's "enough heat to raise the temperature of a pound of water by 1 degree F.)
– Mark
yesterday
|
show 9 more comments
10
Its amusing that BTU is a "weird use of units" to someone in the UK. In the US, that's how smaller A/C units are sized/sold. Retail boxes list the BTU rating in the largest size font, then normally have a square footage recommendation. Large central AC units are sized on their "tons" of cooling (ie. 5-ton A/C for a large home) and I can't even tell you what that means.
– JPhi1618
2 days ago
2
One reason they use BTUs is to decouple it from the power consumption, which would be in KW. Nobody wants idiot consumers to confuse a heat-pump that generates 4KW of heat with consuming 4KW of power.
– Zac Faragher
yesterday
5
@JPhi1618 using BTU to specify power is actually a very weird use of units anywhere in the world, as BTU is a unit of energy, not power. It is like using miles to describe speed: I can easily walk 50 miles. However, that does not make me fast, I probably need about a week to walk so far.
– Hannebambel
yesterday
3
@JeremyBoden BTU is a unit of thermal transfer. When you are measuring machines that transfer heat, it is a reasonable unit because that is what you are actually measuring in the lab test. Regardless, watts is out, because "watts" is a unit being used for something else in the context of selling air conditioners. You do understand that for an air conditioner to move 1000j/sec of heat, it does not need 1000j/sec of electricity, right? Air conditioners are over-unity. Look up SEER number.
– Harper
yesterday
3
@JPhi1618, a ton of heat is enough heat to melt one short ton of ice in 24 hours. A ton of refrigeration is enough air conditioning to remove that heat. (This is a perfectly sensible unit of measurement when you're trying to get someone to replace their industrial icebox with a refrigerator, and isn't too different from the BTU's "enough heat to raise the temperature of a pound of water by 1 degree F.)
– Mark
yesterday
10
10
Its amusing that BTU is a "weird use of units" to someone in the UK. In the US, that's how smaller A/C units are sized/sold. Retail boxes list the BTU rating in the largest size font, then normally have a square footage recommendation. Large central AC units are sized on their "tons" of cooling (ie. 5-ton A/C for a large home) and I can't even tell you what that means.
– JPhi1618
2 days ago
Its amusing that BTU is a "weird use of units" to someone in the UK. In the US, that's how smaller A/C units are sized/sold. Retail boxes list the BTU rating in the largest size font, then normally have a square footage recommendation. Large central AC units are sized on their "tons" of cooling (ie. 5-ton A/C for a large home) and I can't even tell you what that means.
– JPhi1618
2 days ago
2
2
One reason they use BTUs is to decouple it from the power consumption, which would be in KW. Nobody wants idiot consumers to confuse a heat-pump that generates 4KW of heat with consuming 4KW of power.
– Zac Faragher
yesterday
One reason they use BTUs is to decouple it from the power consumption, which would be in KW. Nobody wants idiot consumers to confuse a heat-pump that generates 4KW of heat with consuming 4KW of power.
– Zac Faragher
yesterday
5
5
@JPhi1618 using BTU to specify power is actually a very weird use of units anywhere in the world, as BTU is a unit of energy, not power. It is like using miles to describe speed: I can easily walk 50 miles. However, that does not make me fast, I probably need about a week to walk so far.
– Hannebambel
yesterday
@JPhi1618 using BTU to specify power is actually a very weird use of units anywhere in the world, as BTU is a unit of energy, not power. It is like using miles to describe speed: I can easily walk 50 miles. However, that does not make me fast, I probably need about a week to walk so far.
– Hannebambel
yesterday
3
3
@JeremyBoden BTU is a unit of thermal transfer. When you are measuring machines that transfer heat, it is a reasonable unit because that is what you are actually measuring in the lab test. Regardless, watts is out, because "watts" is a unit being used for something else in the context of selling air conditioners. You do understand that for an air conditioner to move 1000j/sec of heat, it does not need 1000j/sec of electricity, right? Air conditioners are over-unity. Look up SEER number.
– Harper
yesterday
@JeremyBoden BTU is a unit of thermal transfer. When you are measuring machines that transfer heat, it is a reasonable unit because that is what you are actually measuring in the lab test. Regardless, watts is out, because "watts" is a unit being used for something else in the context of selling air conditioners. You do understand that for an air conditioner to move 1000j/sec of heat, it does not need 1000j/sec of electricity, right? Air conditioners are over-unity. Look up SEER number.
– Harper
yesterday
3
3
@JPhi1618, a ton of heat is enough heat to melt one short ton of ice in 24 hours. A ton of refrigeration is enough air conditioning to remove that heat. (This is a perfectly sensible unit of measurement when you're trying to get someone to replace their industrial icebox with a refrigerator, and isn't too different from the BTU's "enough heat to raise the temperature of a pound of water by 1 degree F.)
– Mark
yesterday
@JPhi1618, a ton of heat is enough heat to melt one short ton of ice in 24 hours. A ton of refrigeration is enough air conditioning to remove that heat. (This is a perfectly sensible unit of measurement when you're trying to get someone to replace their industrial icebox with a refrigerator, and isn't too different from the BTU's "enough heat to raise the temperature of a pound of water by 1 degree F.)
– Mark
yesterday
|
show 9 more comments
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Is your bill the same every month?
– Kris
2 days ago
7
You should also pick up a Kill-a-watt (or equivalent). You can get your price per kWh from your electric bill, plug in your appliance(s), and know exactly how much each of them uses. Granted, it only works for 110v - if your AC isn't a window unit, or plugs into a 220v/otherwise wired into the mains, you won't be able to calculate that, and they do take a lot of power.
– Wayne Werner
2 days ago
2
Also, outlet 1 is probably the big one. Your fridge probably uses more power in a month than your TV does in a year. Though your 100w bulb is also probably pretty expensive. Your cell phone charger is probably a couple of bucks a year to run, even at full charging speed.
– Wayne Werner
2 days ago
4
Call power company give them your address then read them the number on your meter. If the don’t match you are getting the wrong bill.
– Kris
2 days ago
5
Can you take a photo of your circuit breaker panel? Include the breakers and any labeling describing what each circuit does. If you don't know what I'm talking about, get googling.
– Harper
2 days ago