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I heard several times from numerous sources, that there were times in history (during the 1st and the 2nd Temples) when the Torah (incl. Oral) was almost completely lost and just one Rabbi (or a handful of Rabbis) saved it all.



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    I heard several times from numerous sources, that there were times in history (during the 1st and the 2nd Temples) when the Torah (incl. Oral) was almost completely lost and just one Rabbi (or a handful of Rabbis) saved it all.



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      I heard several times from numerous sources, that there were times in history (during the 1st and the 2nd Temples) when the Torah (incl. Oral) was almost completely lost and just one Rabbi (or a handful of Rabbis) saved it all.



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      I heard several times from numerous sources, that there were times in history (during the 1st and the 2nd Temples) when the Torah (incl. Oral) was almost completely lost and just one Rabbi (or a handful of Rabbis) saved it all.



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          Yevamos (62b)



          שנים עשר אלף זוגים תלמידים היו לו לרבי עקיבא מגבת עד אנטיפרס וכולן מתו בפרק אחד מפני שלא נהגו כבוד זה לזה



          (Sefaria translation)




          Rabbi Akiva had twelve thousand pairs of students in an area of land
          that stretched from Gevat to Antipatris in Judea, and they all died in
          one period of time, because they did not treat each other with
          respect.




          והיה העולם שמם עד שבא ר"ע אצל רבותינו שבדרום ושנאה להם ר"מ ור' יהודה ור' יוסי ורבי שמעון ורבי אלעזר בן שמוע והם הם העמידו תורה אותה שעה




          And the world was desolate [of Torah] until Rabbi Akiva came to our
          Rabbis in the South and taught his Torah to them. This second group of
          disciples consisted of Rabbi Meir, Rabbi Yehuda, Rabbi Yosei, Rabbi
          Shimon, and Rabbi Elazar ben Shamua. And these are the very ones who
          upheld the study of Torah at that time.




          Rashi:



          שמם - שנשתכחה תורה



          (Desolate - Because the Torah was forgotten)






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            One case is in Temura 16a (translations from Sefaria), where Joshua forgot 3000 laws (other numbers are mentioned too), and Othniel the son of Kenaz restored them:




            אמר רב יהודה אמר שמואל שלשת אלפים הלכות נשתכחו בימי אבלו של משה



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            אמר רבי אבהו אעפ"כ החזירן עתניאל בן קנז מתוך פלפולו



            Three thousand halakhot were forgotten during the days of mourning for Moses.



            Rabbi Abbahu says: Even so, Othniel, son of Kenaz, restored them through his sharp mind.




            Another case is mentioned in Kiddushin 66a, after King Yannay killed all of the sages:




            מיד ותוצץ הרעה על ידי אלעזר בן פועירה ויהרגו כל חכמי ישראל והיה העולם משתומם עד שבא שמעון בן שטח והחזיר את התורה ליושנה



            Immediately, the evil arose and caught fire through Elazar ben Po’ira, and all the Sages of the Jewish people were killed. And the world was desolate of Torah until Shimon ben Shataḥ came and restored the Torah to its former glory.







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            Yevamos (62b)



            שנים עשר אלף זוגים תלמידים היו לו לרבי עקיבא מגבת עד אנטיפרס וכולן מתו בפרק אחד מפני שלא נהגו כבוד זה לזה



            (Sefaria translation)




            Rabbi Akiva had twelve thousand pairs of students in an area of land
            that stretched from Gevat to Antipatris in Judea, and they all died in
            one period of time, because they did not treat each other with
            respect.




            והיה העולם שמם עד שבא ר"ע אצל רבותינו שבדרום ושנאה להם ר"מ ור' יהודה ור' יוסי ורבי שמעון ורבי אלעזר בן שמוע והם הם העמידו תורה אותה שעה




            And the world was desolate [of Torah] until Rabbi Akiva came to our
            Rabbis in the South and taught his Torah to them. This second group of
            disciples consisted of Rabbi Meir, Rabbi Yehuda, Rabbi Yosei, Rabbi
            Shimon, and Rabbi Elazar ben Shamua. And these are the very ones who
            upheld the study of Torah at that time.




            Rashi:



            שמם - שנשתכחה תורה



            (Desolate - Because the Torah was forgotten)






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              Yevamos (62b)



              שנים עשר אלף זוגים תלמידים היו לו לרבי עקיבא מגבת עד אנטיפרס וכולן מתו בפרק אחד מפני שלא נהגו כבוד זה לזה



              (Sefaria translation)




              Rabbi Akiva had twelve thousand pairs of students in an area of land
              that stretched from Gevat to Antipatris in Judea, and they all died in
              one period of time, because they did not treat each other with
              respect.




              והיה העולם שמם עד שבא ר"ע אצל רבותינו שבדרום ושנאה להם ר"מ ור' יהודה ור' יוסי ורבי שמעון ורבי אלעזר בן שמוע והם הם העמידו תורה אותה שעה




              And the world was desolate [of Torah] until Rabbi Akiva came to our
              Rabbis in the South and taught his Torah to them. This second group of
              disciples consisted of Rabbi Meir, Rabbi Yehuda, Rabbi Yosei, Rabbi
              Shimon, and Rabbi Elazar ben Shamua. And these are the very ones who
              upheld the study of Torah at that time.




              Rashi:



              שמם - שנשתכחה תורה



              (Desolate - Because the Torah was forgotten)






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                Yevamos (62b)



                שנים עשר אלף זוגים תלמידים היו לו לרבי עקיבא מגבת עד אנטיפרס וכולן מתו בפרק אחד מפני שלא נהגו כבוד זה לזה



                (Sefaria translation)




                Rabbi Akiva had twelve thousand pairs of students in an area of land
                that stretched from Gevat to Antipatris in Judea, and they all died in
                one period of time, because they did not treat each other with
                respect.




                והיה העולם שמם עד שבא ר"ע אצל רבותינו שבדרום ושנאה להם ר"מ ור' יהודה ור' יוסי ורבי שמעון ורבי אלעזר בן שמוע והם הם העמידו תורה אותה שעה




                And the world was desolate [of Torah] until Rabbi Akiva came to our
                Rabbis in the South and taught his Torah to them. This second group of
                disciples consisted of Rabbi Meir, Rabbi Yehuda, Rabbi Yosei, Rabbi
                Shimon, and Rabbi Elazar ben Shamua. And these are the very ones who
                upheld the study of Torah at that time.




                Rashi:



                שמם - שנשתכחה תורה



                (Desolate - Because the Torah was forgotten)






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                Yevamos (62b)



                שנים עשר אלף זוגים תלמידים היו לו לרבי עקיבא מגבת עד אנטיפרס וכולן מתו בפרק אחד מפני שלא נהגו כבוד זה לזה



                (Sefaria translation)




                Rabbi Akiva had twelve thousand pairs of students in an area of land
                that stretched from Gevat to Antipatris in Judea, and they all died in
                one period of time, because they did not treat each other with
                respect.




                והיה העולם שמם עד שבא ר"ע אצל רבותינו שבדרום ושנאה להם ר"מ ור' יהודה ור' יוסי ורבי שמעון ורבי אלעזר בן שמוע והם הם העמידו תורה אותה שעה




                And the world was desolate [of Torah] until Rabbi Akiva came to our
                Rabbis in the South and taught his Torah to them. This second group of
                disciples consisted of Rabbi Meir, Rabbi Yehuda, Rabbi Yosei, Rabbi
                Shimon, and Rabbi Elazar ben Shamua. And these are the very ones who
                upheld the study of Torah at that time.




                Rashi:



                שמם - שנשתכחה תורה



                (Desolate - Because the Torah was forgotten)







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                    One case is in Temura 16a (translations from Sefaria), where Joshua forgot 3000 laws (other numbers are mentioned too), and Othniel the son of Kenaz restored them:




                    אמר רב יהודה אמר שמואל שלשת אלפים הלכות נשתכחו בימי אבלו של משה



                    ...



                    אמר רבי אבהו אעפ"כ החזירן עתניאל בן קנז מתוך פלפולו



                    Three thousand halakhot were forgotten during the days of mourning for Moses.



                    Rabbi Abbahu says: Even so, Othniel, son of Kenaz, restored them through his sharp mind.




                    Another case is mentioned in Kiddushin 66a, after King Yannay killed all of the sages:




                    מיד ותוצץ הרעה על ידי אלעזר בן פועירה ויהרגו כל חכמי ישראל והיה העולם משתומם עד שבא שמעון בן שטח והחזיר את התורה ליושנה



                    Immediately, the evil arose and caught fire through Elazar ben Po’ira, and all the Sages of the Jewish people were killed. And the world was desolate of Torah until Shimon ben Shataḥ came and restored the Torah to its former glory.







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                    One case is in Temura 16a (translations from Sefaria), where Joshua forgot 3000 laws (other numbers are mentioned too), and Othniel the son of Kenaz restored them:




                    אמר רב יהודה אמר שמואל שלשת אלפים הלכות נשתכחו בימי אבלו של משה



                    ...



                    אמר רבי אבהו אעפ"כ החזירן עתניאל בן קנז מתוך פלפולו



                    Three thousand halakhot were forgotten during the days of mourning for Moses.



                    Rabbi Abbahu says: Even so, Othniel, son of Kenaz, restored them through his sharp mind.




                    Another case is mentioned in Kiddushin 66a, after King Yannay killed all of the sages:




                    מיד ותוצץ הרעה על ידי אלעזר בן פועירה ויהרגו כל חכמי ישראל והיה העולם משתומם עד שבא שמעון בן שטח והחזיר את התורה ליושנה



                    Immediately, the evil arose and caught fire through Elazar ben Po’ira, and all the Sages of the Jewish people were killed. And the world was desolate of Torah until Shimon ben Shataḥ came and restored the Torah to its former glory.







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                    One case is in Temura 16a (translations from Sefaria), where Joshua forgot 3000 laws (other numbers are mentioned too), and Othniel the son of Kenaz restored them:




                    אמר רב יהודה אמר שמואל שלשת אלפים הלכות נשתכחו בימי אבלו של משה



                    ...



                    אמר רבי אבהו אעפ"כ החזירן עתניאל בן קנז מתוך פלפולו



                    Three thousand halakhot were forgotten during the days of mourning for Moses.



                    Rabbi Abbahu says: Even so, Othniel, son of Kenaz, restored them through his sharp mind.




                    Another case is mentioned in Kiddushin 66a, after King Yannay killed all of the sages:




                    מיד ותוצץ הרעה על ידי אלעזר בן פועירה ויהרגו כל חכמי ישראל והיה העולם משתומם עד שבא שמעון בן שטח והחזיר את התורה ליושנה



                    Immediately, the evil arose and caught fire through Elazar ben Po’ira, and all the Sages of the Jewish people were killed. And the world was desolate of Torah until Shimon ben Shataḥ came and restored the Torah to its former glory.







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                    One case is in Temura 16a (translations from Sefaria), where Joshua forgot 3000 laws (other numbers are mentioned too), and Othniel the son of Kenaz restored them:




                    אמר רב יהודה אמר שמואל שלשת אלפים הלכות נשתכחו בימי אבלו של משה



                    ...



                    אמר רבי אבהו אעפ"כ החזירן עתניאל בן קנז מתוך פלפולו



                    Three thousand halakhot were forgotten during the days of mourning for Moses.



                    Rabbi Abbahu says: Even so, Othniel, son of Kenaz, restored them through his sharp mind.




                    Another case is mentioned in Kiddushin 66a, after King Yannay killed all of the sages:




                    מיד ותוצץ הרעה על ידי אלעזר בן פועירה ויהרגו כל חכמי ישראל והיה העולם משתומם עד שבא שמעון בן שטח והחזיר את התורה ליושנה



                    Immediately, the evil arose and caught fire through Elazar ben Po’ira, and all the Sages of the Jewish people were killed. And the world was desolate of Torah until Shimon ben Shataḥ came and restored the Torah to its former glory.








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                    I recommend deleting the citation from Temurah, as it's irrelevant to answering the question posed by the OP.

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                    I recommend deleting the citation from Temurah, as it's irrelevant to answering the question posed by the OP.

                    – IsraelReader
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