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Classical Greek for 'You came home to our hearts with your shield'?
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Sorry I know this is Latin. but I was hoping to find some dual classicists on here.
Could anyone provide me with a classical Greek translation of the sentence:
"You came home to our hearts with your shield."
I was hoping to get there myself, I have:
ἐπανῆλθες εἰς τὴν οἰκείαν.
For "you came home"
and "άμα σῇ ᾰ̓σπῐ́δῐ"
For with your shield, but the complexity is now defeating me - I would be very glad is someone could help me.
(Once again sorry to trouble the Latin site.)
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Sorry I know this is Latin. but I was hoping to find some dual classicists on here.
Could anyone provide me with a classical Greek translation of the sentence:
"You came home to our hearts with your shield."
I was hoping to get there myself, I have:
ἐπανῆλθες εἰς τὴν οἰκείαν.
For "you came home"
and "άμα σῇ ᾰ̓σπῐ́δῐ"
For with your shield, but the complexity is now defeating me - I would be very glad is someone could help me.
(Once again sorry to trouble the Latin site.)
sentence-translation
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No need to apologize! This site covers Ancient Greek as well as Latin (and also Etruscan, Oscan, Punic, Aramaic, and more).
– Draconis
8 hours ago
That said, do you mean "with" in the sense of "by means of", or "with" in the sense of "accompanied by"? I'm guessing the latter, but something like "you came home by using your shield [instead of your sword]" will be different from "you came home holding your shield"
– Draconis
8 hours ago
Hello - thank you for your reply, and your welcome. I do mean in the sense of accompanied with.
– david_twyford
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Sorry I know this is Latin. but I was hoping to find some dual classicists on here.
Could anyone provide me with a classical Greek translation of the sentence:
"You came home to our hearts with your shield."
I was hoping to get there myself, I have:
ἐπανῆλθες εἰς τὴν οἰκείαν.
For "you came home"
and "άμα σῇ ᾰ̓σπῐ́δῐ"
For with your shield, but the complexity is now defeating me - I would be very glad is someone could help me.
(Once again sorry to trouble the Latin site.)
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Sorry I know this is Latin. but I was hoping to find some dual classicists on here.
Could anyone provide me with a classical Greek translation of the sentence:
"You came home to our hearts with your shield."
I was hoping to get there myself, I have:
ἐπανῆλθες εἰς τὴν οἰκείαν.
For "you came home"
and "άμα σῇ ᾰ̓σπῐ́δῐ"
For with your shield, but the complexity is now defeating me - I would be very glad is someone could help me.
(Once again sorry to trouble the Latin site.)
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No need to apologize! This site covers Ancient Greek as well as Latin (and also Etruscan, Oscan, Punic, Aramaic, and more).
– Draconis
8 hours ago
That said, do you mean "with" in the sense of "by means of", or "with" in the sense of "accompanied by"? I'm guessing the latter, but something like "you came home by using your shield [instead of your sword]" will be different from "you came home holding your shield"
– Draconis
8 hours ago
Hello - thank you for your reply, and your welcome. I do mean in the sense of accompanied with.
– david_twyford
8 hours ago
@Draconis "This site covers Ancient Greek": Does it? Wink wink. If it does, I can finally change my username!!!
– Greek - Area 51 Proposal
55 mins ago
add a comment |
No need to apologize! This site covers Ancient Greek as well as Latin (and also Etruscan, Oscan, Punic, Aramaic, and more).
– Draconis
8 hours ago
That said, do you mean "with" in the sense of "by means of", or "with" in the sense of "accompanied by"? I'm guessing the latter, but something like "you came home by using your shield [instead of your sword]" will be different from "you came home holding your shield"
– Draconis
8 hours ago
Hello - thank you for your reply, and your welcome. I do mean in the sense of accompanied with.
– david_twyford
8 hours ago
@Draconis "This site covers Ancient Greek": Does it? Wink wink. If it does, I can finally change my username!!!
– Greek - Area 51 Proposal
55 mins ago
No need to apologize! This site covers Ancient Greek as well as Latin (and also Etruscan, Oscan, Punic, Aramaic, and more).
– Draconis
8 hours ago
No need to apologize! This site covers Ancient Greek as well as Latin (and also Etruscan, Oscan, Punic, Aramaic, and more).
– Draconis
8 hours ago
That said, do you mean "with" in the sense of "by means of", or "with" in the sense of "accompanied by"? I'm guessing the latter, but something like "you came home by using your shield [instead of your sword]" will be different from "you came home holding your shield"
– Draconis
8 hours ago
That said, do you mean "with" in the sense of "by means of", or "with" in the sense of "accompanied by"? I'm guessing the latter, but something like "you came home by using your shield [instead of your sword]" will be different from "you came home holding your shield"
– Draconis
8 hours ago
Hello - thank you for your reply, and your welcome. I do mean in the sense of accompanied with.
– david_twyford
8 hours ago
Hello - thank you for your reply, and your welcome. I do mean in the sense of accompanied with.
– david_twyford
8 hours ago
@Draconis "This site covers Ancient Greek": Does it? Wink wink. If it does, I can finally change my username!!!
– Greek - Area 51 Proposal
55 mins ago
@Draconis "This site covers Ancient Greek": Does it? Wink wink. If it does, I can finally change my username!!!
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"You came home…"
I would use ἥκεις for this; it's technically a present-tense verb, but it generally has a perfect meaning, "you have come back". If you want to be emphatic, add πάλιν, "…back again".
EDIT: Brianpck in the comments suggested an even better verb, ἐνοστήσας, "you came back home". I'd recommend this one instead of my original suggestion. It comes from the word νόστος "journey home", as made famous in the Odyssey, and the root of "nostalgia".
"…to our hearts…"
I'd leave off "our" and just go with εἰς τὰς καρδίας; the definite article can give that sense on its own. If you want to include the "our", that's ἐις τὰς ἡμετέρας καρδίας.
"…with your shield."
Nice and straightforward, σὺν τῇ ασπίδι. Once again, leaving off the non-emphatic "your".
Note: I'm not entirely certain about using σύν like this. I might instead use a participle, something like "…holding your shield". But that's somewhat of a change in meaning.
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νοστέω is also a great choice for "come home."
– brianpck
6 hours ago
@brianpck Oh, of course! I don't know how I missed that one!
– Draconis
6 hours ago
It's worth noting that ἥκεις may or may not reflect the OP's intended meaning, since it implies "you have come and are still here". Also, I'd leave in "our" in this case because it isn't clearly implied by the context (could be someone else's hearts).
– TKR
5 hours ago
@TKR Fair; added a note on that.
– Draconis
5 hours ago
(On the edit, it should surely be ἐνοστήσας, unless we're being Homeric.)
– TKR
4 hours ago
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"You came home…"
I would use ἥκεις for this; it's technically a present-tense verb, but it generally has a perfect meaning, "you have come back". If you want to be emphatic, add πάλιν, "…back again".
EDIT: Brianpck in the comments suggested an even better verb, ἐνοστήσας, "you came back home". I'd recommend this one instead of my original suggestion. It comes from the word νόστος "journey home", as made famous in the Odyssey, and the root of "nostalgia".
"…to our hearts…"
I'd leave off "our" and just go with εἰς τὰς καρδίας; the definite article can give that sense on its own. If you want to include the "our", that's ἐις τὰς ἡμετέρας καρδίας.
"…with your shield."
Nice and straightforward, σὺν τῇ ασπίδι. Once again, leaving off the non-emphatic "your".
Note: I'm not entirely certain about using σύν like this. I might instead use a participle, something like "…holding your shield". But that's somewhat of a change in meaning.
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νοστέω is also a great choice for "come home."
– brianpck
6 hours ago
@brianpck Oh, of course! I don't know how I missed that one!
– Draconis
6 hours ago
It's worth noting that ἥκεις may or may not reflect the OP's intended meaning, since it implies "you have come and are still here". Also, I'd leave in "our" in this case because it isn't clearly implied by the context (could be someone else's hearts).
– TKR
5 hours ago
@TKR Fair; added a note on that.
– Draconis
5 hours ago
(On the edit, it should surely be ἐνοστήσας, unless we're being Homeric.)
– TKR
4 hours ago
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"You came home…"
I would use ἥκεις for this; it's technically a present-tense verb, but it generally has a perfect meaning, "you have come back". If you want to be emphatic, add πάλιν, "…back again".
EDIT: Brianpck in the comments suggested an even better verb, ἐνοστήσας, "you came back home". I'd recommend this one instead of my original suggestion. It comes from the word νόστος "journey home", as made famous in the Odyssey, and the root of "nostalgia".
"…to our hearts…"
I'd leave off "our" and just go with εἰς τὰς καρδίας; the definite article can give that sense on its own. If you want to include the "our", that's ἐις τὰς ἡμετέρας καρδίας.
"…with your shield."
Nice and straightforward, σὺν τῇ ασπίδι. Once again, leaving off the non-emphatic "your".
Note: I'm not entirely certain about using σύν like this. I might instead use a participle, something like "…holding your shield". But that's somewhat of a change in meaning.
1
νοστέω is also a great choice for "come home."
– brianpck
6 hours ago
@brianpck Oh, of course! I don't know how I missed that one!
– Draconis
6 hours ago
It's worth noting that ἥκεις may or may not reflect the OP's intended meaning, since it implies "you have come and are still here". Also, I'd leave in "our" in this case because it isn't clearly implied by the context (could be someone else's hearts).
– TKR
5 hours ago
@TKR Fair; added a note on that.
– Draconis
5 hours ago
(On the edit, it should surely be ἐνοστήσας, unless we're being Homeric.)
– TKR
4 hours ago
|
show 2 more comments
"You came home…"
I would use ἥκεις for this; it's technically a present-tense verb, but it generally has a perfect meaning, "you have come back". If you want to be emphatic, add πάλιν, "…back again".
EDIT: Brianpck in the comments suggested an even better verb, ἐνοστήσας, "you came back home". I'd recommend this one instead of my original suggestion. It comes from the word νόστος "journey home", as made famous in the Odyssey, and the root of "nostalgia".
"…to our hearts…"
I'd leave off "our" and just go with εἰς τὰς καρδίας; the definite article can give that sense on its own. If you want to include the "our", that's ἐις τὰς ἡμετέρας καρδίας.
"…with your shield."
Nice and straightforward, σὺν τῇ ασπίδι. Once again, leaving off the non-emphatic "your".
Note: I'm not entirely certain about using σύν like this. I might instead use a participle, something like "…holding your shield". But that's somewhat of a change in meaning.
"You came home…"
I would use ἥκεις for this; it's technically a present-tense verb, but it generally has a perfect meaning, "you have come back". If you want to be emphatic, add πάλιν, "…back again".
EDIT: Brianpck in the comments suggested an even better verb, ἐνοστήσας, "you came back home". I'd recommend this one instead of my original suggestion. It comes from the word νόστος "journey home", as made famous in the Odyssey, and the root of "nostalgia".
"…to our hearts…"
I'd leave off "our" and just go with εἰς τὰς καρδίας; the definite article can give that sense on its own. If you want to include the "our", that's ἐις τὰς ἡμετέρας καρδίας.
"…with your shield."
Nice and straightforward, σὺν τῇ ασπίδι. Once again, leaving off the non-emphatic "your".
Note: I'm not entirely certain about using σύν like this. I might instead use a participle, something like "…holding your shield". But that's somewhat of a change in meaning.
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νοστέω is also a great choice for "come home."
– brianpck
6 hours ago
@brianpck Oh, of course! I don't know how I missed that one!
– Draconis
6 hours ago
It's worth noting that ἥκεις may or may not reflect the OP's intended meaning, since it implies "you have come and are still here". Also, I'd leave in "our" in this case because it isn't clearly implied by the context (could be someone else's hearts).
– TKR
5 hours ago
@TKR Fair; added a note on that.
– Draconis
5 hours ago
(On the edit, it should surely be ἐνοστήσας, unless we're being Homeric.)
– TKR
4 hours ago
|
show 2 more comments
1
νοστέω is also a great choice for "come home."
– brianpck
6 hours ago
@brianpck Oh, of course! I don't know how I missed that one!
– Draconis
6 hours ago
It's worth noting that ἥκεις may or may not reflect the OP's intended meaning, since it implies "you have come and are still here". Also, I'd leave in "our" in this case because it isn't clearly implied by the context (could be someone else's hearts).
– TKR
5 hours ago
@TKR Fair; added a note on that.
– Draconis
5 hours ago
(On the edit, it should surely be ἐνοστήσας, unless we're being Homeric.)
– TKR
4 hours ago
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1
νοστέω is also a great choice for "come home."
– brianpck
6 hours ago
νοστέω is also a great choice for "come home."
– brianpck
6 hours ago
@brianpck Oh, of course! I don't know how I missed that one!
– Draconis
6 hours ago
@brianpck Oh, of course! I don't know how I missed that one!
– Draconis
6 hours ago
It's worth noting that ἥκεις may or may not reflect the OP's intended meaning, since it implies "you have come and are still here". Also, I'd leave in "our" in this case because it isn't clearly implied by the context (could be someone else's hearts).
– TKR
5 hours ago
It's worth noting that ἥκεις may or may not reflect the OP's intended meaning, since it implies "you have come and are still here". Also, I'd leave in "our" in this case because it isn't clearly implied by the context (could be someone else's hearts).
– TKR
5 hours ago
@TKR Fair; added a note on that.
– Draconis
5 hours ago
@TKR Fair; added a note on that.
– Draconis
5 hours ago
(On the edit, it should surely be ἐνοστήσας, unless we're being Homeric.)
– TKR
4 hours ago
(On the edit, it should surely be ἐνοστήσας, unless we're being Homeric.)
– TKR
4 hours ago
|
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– Draconis
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That said, do you mean "with" in the sense of "by means of", or "with" in the sense of "accompanied by"? I'm guessing the latter, but something like "you came home by using your shield [instead of your sword]" will be different from "you came home holding your shield"
– Draconis
8 hours ago
Hello - thank you for your reply, and your welcome. I do mean in the sense of accompanied with.
– david_twyford
8 hours ago
@Draconis "This site covers Ancient Greek": Does it? Wink wink. If it does, I can finally change my username!!!
– Greek - Area 51 Proposal
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