Do adult Russians normally hand-write Cyrillic as cursive or as block letters?Why does italic 'т' look like...
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Do adult Russians normally hand-write Cyrillic as cursive or as block letters?
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In The Netherlands, we learn to write Latin characters in cursive in school, but most adults write block letters in practice. My experience is that in other countries using the Latin alphabet, most adults use block letters as well. How is this in Cyrillic? Does handwritten Cyrillic by a typical adult Russian more closely resemble upright "block letters"¹, italic print, or the cursive taught in school?
The difference can be quite large (д/д, т/т, и/и) and a source of confusion to learners (for example, see Why does italic 'т' look like 'm', What is the stroke order for Cyrillic?, What are these Russian characters that aren't in the alphabet in my learning material?, What Russian letter is this?); and lower case д actually has three different shapes. I can read upright block letters quite well, italic block letters with some difficulty, how much may I need cursive?
Related: What is the preferred form of Cyrillic to use for handwriting?
¹I'm not sure if this term is correct for Cyrillic!
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In The Netherlands, we learn to write Latin characters in cursive in school, but most adults write block letters in practice. My experience is that in other countries using the Latin alphabet, most adults use block letters as well. How is this in Cyrillic? Does handwritten Cyrillic by a typical adult Russian more closely resemble upright "block letters"¹, italic print, or the cursive taught in school?
The difference can be quite large (д/д, т/т, и/и) and a source of confusion to learners (for example, see Why does italic 'т' look like 'm', What is the stroke order for Cyrillic?, What are these Russian characters that aren't in the alphabet in my learning material?, What Russian letter is this?); and lower case д actually has three different shapes. I can read upright block letters quite well, italic block letters with some difficulty, how much may I need cursive?
Related: What is the preferred form of Cyrillic to use for handwriting?
¹I'm not sure if this term is correct for Cyrillic!
алфавит typography
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in Cyrillic these are called print letters - печатные буквы
– Баян Купи-ка
7 hours ago
in this age of computers, relevance of ability to understand cursive is in decline, and if god forbid you need medical help, even knowledge of cursive won't help you to understand health workers' handwriting on medical documents which are still filled out by hand, no one told them that patients need to understand their summaries, they mostly communicate with each other and a patient only serves as an errand boy to deliver the documents
– Баян Купи-ка
7 hours ago
in the age of computers, more and more medical help uses hospital information systems and rarely things are written by hand, often even prescriptions are printed out. I think your statement is a bit deregatory, esp. in front of those who can not make their own judgement on the matter.
– Darya Shcherbakova
5 hours ago
it's definitely not flattering and i definitely feel degraded when handed their chicken scratch without any ability to decypher it
– Баян Купи-ка
5 hours ago
I understand your frustration (and sometimes share it) but it's unfair to generalize to any group of people. Such thinking leads to prejudices and labeling in other (more critical) societal discussions. The most innocent examples are: "women can't drive", "women can't program", "women are bad engineers", and I won't go into mentioning all the popular labels used in Russia for describing minorities and so on.
– Darya Shcherbakova
4 hours ago
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In The Netherlands, we learn to write Latin characters in cursive in school, but most adults write block letters in practice. My experience is that in other countries using the Latin alphabet, most adults use block letters as well. How is this in Cyrillic? Does handwritten Cyrillic by a typical adult Russian more closely resemble upright "block letters"¹, italic print, or the cursive taught in school?
The difference can be quite large (д/д, т/т, и/и) and a source of confusion to learners (for example, see Why does italic 'т' look like 'm', What is the stroke order for Cyrillic?, What are these Russian characters that aren't in the alphabet in my learning material?, What Russian letter is this?); and lower case д actually has three different shapes. I can read upright block letters quite well, italic block letters with some difficulty, how much may I need cursive?
Related: What is the preferred form of Cyrillic to use for handwriting?
¹I'm not sure if this term is correct for Cyrillic!
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In The Netherlands, we learn to write Latin characters in cursive in school, but most adults write block letters in practice. My experience is that in other countries using the Latin alphabet, most adults use block letters as well. How is this in Cyrillic? Does handwritten Cyrillic by a typical adult Russian more closely resemble upright "block letters"¹, italic print, or the cursive taught in school?
The difference can be quite large (д/д, т/т, и/и) and a source of confusion to learners (for example, see Why does italic 'т' look like 'm', What is the stroke order for Cyrillic?, What are these Russian characters that aren't in the alphabet in my learning material?, What Russian letter is this?); and lower case д actually has three different shapes. I can read upright block letters quite well, italic block letters with some difficulty, how much may I need cursive?
Related: What is the preferred form of Cyrillic to use for handwriting?
¹I'm not sure if this term is correct for Cyrillic!
алфавит typography
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in Cyrillic these are called print letters - печатные буквы
– Баян Купи-ка
7 hours ago
in this age of computers, relevance of ability to understand cursive is in decline, and if god forbid you need medical help, even knowledge of cursive won't help you to understand health workers' handwriting on medical documents which are still filled out by hand, no one told them that patients need to understand their summaries, they mostly communicate with each other and a patient only serves as an errand boy to deliver the documents
– Баян Купи-ка
7 hours ago
in the age of computers, more and more medical help uses hospital information systems and rarely things are written by hand, often even prescriptions are printed out. I think your statement is a bit deregatory, esp. in front of those who can not make their own judgement on the matter.
– Darya Shcherbakova
5 hours ago
it's definitely not flattering and i definitely feel degraded when handed their chicken scratch without any ability to decypher it
– Баян Купи-ка
5 hours ago
I understand your frustration (and sometimes share it) but it's unfair to generalize to any group of people. Such thinking leads to prejudices and labeling in other (more critical) societal discussions. The most innocent examples are: "women can't drive", "women can't program", "women are bad engineers", and I won't go into mentioning all the popular labels used in Russia for describing minorities and so on.
– Darya Shcherbakova
4 hours ago
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in Cyrillic these are called print letters - печатные буквы
– Баян Купи-ка
7 hours ago
in this age of computers, relevance of ability to understand cursive is in decline, and if god forbid you need medical help, even knowledge of cursive won't help you to understand health workers' handwriting on medical documents which are still filled out by hand, no one told them that patients need to understand their summaries, they mostly communicate with each other and a patient only serves as an errand boy to deliver the documents
– Баян Купи-ка
7 hours ago
in the age of computers, more and more medical help uses hospital information systems and rarely things are written by hand, often even prescriptions are printed out. I think your statement is a bit deregatory, esp. in front of those who can not make their own judgement on the matter.
– Darya Shcherbakova
5 hours ago
it's definitely not flattering and i definitely feel degraded when handed their chicken scratch without any ability to decypher it
– Баян Купи-ка
5 hours ago
I understand your frustration (and sometimes share it) but it's unfair to generalize to any group of people. Such thinking leads to prejudices and labeling in other (more critical) societal discussions. The most innocent examples are: "women can't drive", "women can't program", "women are bad engineers", and I won't go into mentioning all the popular labels used in Russia for describing minorities and so on.
– Darya Shcherbakova
4 hours ago
1
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in Cyrillic these are called print letters - печатные буквы
– Баян Купи-ка
7 hours ago
in Cyrillic these are called print letters - печатные буквы
– Баян Купи-ка
7 hours ago
in this age of computers, relevance of ability to understand cursive is in decline, and if god forbid you need medical help, even knowledge of cursive won't help you to understand health workers' handwriting on medical documents which are still filled out by hand, no one told them that patients need to understand their summaries, they mostly communicate with each other and a patient only serves as an errand boy to deliver the documents
– Баян Купи-ка
7 hours ago
in this age of computers, relevance of ability to understand cursive is in decline, and if god forbid you need medical help, even knowledge of cursive won't help you to understand health workers' handwriting on medical documents which are still filled out by hand, no one told them that patients need to understand their summaries, they mostly communicate with each other and a patient only serves as an errand boy to deliver the documents
– Баян Купи-ка
7 hours ago
in the age of computers, more and more medical help uses hospital information systems and rarely things are written by hand, often even prescriptions are printed out. I think your statement is a bit deregatory, esp. in front of those who can not make their own judgement on the matter.
– Darya Shcherbakova
5 hours ago
in the age of computers, more and more medical help uses hospital information systems and rarely things are written by hand, often even prescriptions are printed out. I think your statement is a bit deregatory, esp. in front of those who can not make their own judgement on the matter.
– Darya Shcherbakova
5 hours ago
it's definitely not flattering and i definitely feel degraded when handed their chicken scratch without any ability to decypher it
– Баян Купи-ка
5 hours ago
it's definitely not flattering and i definitely feel degraded when handed their chicken scratch without any ability to decypher it
– Баян Купи-ка
5 hours ago
I understand your frustration (and sometimes share it) but it's unfair to generalize to any group of people. Such thinking leads to prejudices and labeling in other (more critical) societal discussions. The most innocent examples are: "women can't drive", "women can't program", "women are bad engineers", and I won't go into mentioning all the popular labels used in Russia for describing minorities and so on.
– Darya Shcherbakova
4 hours ago
I understand your frustration (and sometimes share it) but it's unfair to generalize to any group of people. Such thinking leads to prejudices and labeling in other (more critical) societal discussions. The most innocent examples are: "women can't drive", "women can't program", "women are bad engineers", and I won't go into mentioning all the popular labels used in Russia for describing minorities and so on.
– Darya Shcherbakova
4 hours ago
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In school it's taught cursive and only cursive, in many "serious" places (like government jobs, jobs in financial sector etc.) it will be considered very non-professional if you can not do cursive. In fact it's even hard to imagine that somebody does not.
However I have to admit that things are gradually changing and even Russian language teachers are adopting for such changes, although very slowly and very gradually. For instance, in 90s you were very lucky if your Russian language or Literature teacher (well, natural sciences teachers were more liberal) accept T form for lowercase. Now from what I see how my son is doing his homework - such deviations from the standard are tolerated.
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won't this be strict only for primary schoolers? I don't know about current situation, but in 90s I haven't met teachers unaccepting of different writings of т or р or other letters in the middle school or high school and I went to three schools. I think primary school is the only period where anyone cares about your handwriting and afterwards it's you own choice (as long as it's legible)
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In school it's taught cursive and only cursive, in many "serious" places (like government jobs, jobs in financial sector etc.) it will be considered very non-professional if you can not do cursive. In fact it's even hard to imagine that somebody does not.
However I have to admit that things are gradually changing and even Russian language teachers are adopting for such changes, although very slowly and very gradually. For instance, in 90s you were very lucky if your Russian language or Literature teacher (well, natural sciences teachers were more liberal) accept T form for lowercase. Now from what I see how my son is doing his homework - such deviations from the standard are tolerated.
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won't this be strict only for primary schoolers? I don't know about current situation, but in 90s I haven't met teachers unaccepting of different writings of т or р or other letters in the middle school or high school and I went to three schools. I think primary school is the only period where anyone cares about your handwriting and afterwards it's you own choice (as long as it's legible)
– Darya Shcherbakova
5 hours ago
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In school it's taught cursive and only cursive, in many "serious" places (like government jobs, jobs in financial sector etc.) it will be considered very non-professional if you can not do cursive. In fact it's even hard to imagine that somebody does not.
However I have to admit that things are gradually changing and even Russian language teachers are adopting for such changes, although very slowly and very gradually. For instance, in 90s you were very lucky if your Russian language or Literature teacher (well, natural sciences teachers were more liberal) accept T form for lowercase. Now from what I see how my son is doing his homework - such deviations from the standard are tolerated.
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won't this be strict only for primary schoolers? I don't know about current situation, but in 90s I haven't met teachers unaccepting of different writings of т or р or other letters in the middle school or high school and I went to three schools. I think primary school is the only period where anyone cares about your handwriting and afterwards it's you own choice (as long as it's legible)
– Darya Shcherbakova
5 hours ago
add a comment |
In school it's taught cursive and only cursive, in many "serious" places (like government jobs, jobs in financial sector etc.) it will be considered very non-professional if you can not do cursive. In fact it's even hard to imagine that somebody does not.
However I have to admit that things are gradually changing and even Russian language teachers are adopting for such changes, although very slowly and very gradually. For instance, in 90s you were very lucky if your Russian language or Literature teacher (well, natural sciences teachers were more liberal) accept T form for lowercase. Now from what I see how my son is doing his homework - such deviations from the standard are tolerated.
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In school it's taught cursive and only cursive, in many "serious" places (like government jobs, jobs in financial sector etc.) it will be considered very non-professional if you can not do cursive. In fact it's even hard to imagine that somebody does not.
However I have to admit that things are gradually changing and even Russian language teachers are adopting for such changes, although very slowly and very gradually. For instance, in 90s you were very lucky if your Russian language or Literature teacher (well, natural sciences teachers were more liberal) accept T form for lowercase. Now from what I see how my son is doing his homework - such deviations from the standard are tolerated.
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won't this be strict only for primary schoolers? I don't know about current situation, but in 90s I haven't met teachers unaccepting of different writings of т or р or other letters in the middle school or high school and I went to three schools. I think primary school is the only period where anyone cares about your handwriting and afterwards it's you own choice (as long as it's legible)
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won't this be strict only for primary schoolers? I don't know about current situation, but in 90s I haven't met teachers unaccepting of different writings of т or р or other letters in the middle school or high school and I went to three schools. I think primary school is the only period where anyone cares about your handwriting and afterwards it's you own choice (as long as it's legible)
– Darya Shcherbakova
5 hours ago
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won't this be strict only for primary schoolers? I don't know about current situation, but in 90s I haven't met teachers unaccepting of different writings of т or р or other letters in the middle school or high school and I went to three schools. I think primary school is the only period where anyone cares about your handwriting and afterwards it's you own choice (as long as it's legible)
– Darya Shcherbakova
5 hours ago
won't this be strict only for primary schoolers? I don't know about current situation, but in 90s I haven't met teachers unaccepting of different writings of т or р or other letters in the middle school or high school and I went to three schools. I think primary school is the only period where anyone cares about your handwriting and afterwards it's you own choice (as long as it's legible)
– Darya Shcherbakova
5 hours ago
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in Cyrillic these are called print letters - печатные буквы
– Баян Купи-ка
7 hours ago
in this age of computers, relevance of ability to understand cursive is in decline, and if god forbid you need medical help, even knowledge of cursive won't help you to understand health workers' handwriting on medical documents which are still filled out by hand, no one told them that patients need to understand their summaries, they mostly communicate with each other and a patient only serves as an errand boy to deliver the documents
– Баян Купи-ка
7 hours ago
in the age of computers, more and more medical help uses hospital information systems and rarely things are written by hand, often even prescriptions are printed out. I think your statement is a bit deregatory, esp. in front of those who can not make their own judgement on the matter.
– Darya Shcherbakova
5 hours ago
it's definitely not flattering and i definitely feel degraded when handed their chicken scratch without any ability to decypher it
– Баян Купи-ка
5 hours ago
I understand your frustration (and sometimes share it) but it's unfair to generalize to any group of people. Such thinking leads to prejudices and labeling in other (more critical) societal discussions. The most innocent examples are: "women can't drive", "women can't program", "women are bad engineers", and I won't go into mentioning all the popular labels used in Russia for describing minorities and so on.
– Darya Shcherbakova
4 hours ago