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I'm looking for the right size joist hangers for my project. I have an old house with rough cut oversized joists and can't seem to find a joist hangers that will work. I'm nailing into a 2x10 ledger.
The joist actual dimensions are: 2 3/4" w x 8 3/4" h
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I'm looking for the right size joist hangers for my project. I have an old house with rough cut oversized joists and can't seem to find a joist hangers that will work. I'm nailing into a 2x10 ledger.
The joist actual dimensions are: 2 3/4" w x 8 3/4" h
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asked 8 hours ago
John AugustJohn August
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add a comment |
I'm looking for the right size joist hangers for my project. I have an old house with rough cut oversized joists and can't seem to find a joist hangers that will work. I'm nailing into a 2x10 ledger.
The joist actual dimensions are: 2 3/4" w x 8 3/4" h
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John AugustJohn August
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I'm looking for the right size joist hangers for my project. I have an old house with rough cut oversized joists and can't seem to find a joist hangers that will work. I'm nailing into a 2x10 ledger.
The joist actual dimensions are: 2 3/4" w x 8 3/4" h
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Simpson Strong-Tie makes a “Face-Mount” joist hanger for “rough lumber” that can be custom ordered up to 8” wide.
It’s their HU Series. When ordering just add an “X” after the “normal” size you’d use. (Example: HU28X and then specify the width required.)
Btw, you can use the HU load tables for determining allowable loads they’ll resist and use the same fasteners, (i.e.: SD Strong Drive Connector Screw or substitute 10d common or 16d sinkers, where noted in the charts.)
answered 7 hours ago
Lee SamLee Sam
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Hm, I'm confused by this. Does that mean I can customize the size of my hanger order? The website says "HU hangers can be ordered in rough sizes at full table loads. Add "X" to the model designation (e.g., HU28X) and specify rough width or height. Maximum width 8"."
– John August
7 hours ago
What is the actual width of a hu28x ?
– John August
7 hours ago
@JohnAugust Yes, they are “custom” when you add the “X”
– Lee Sam
6 hours ago
@JohnAugust You determine the width when you add the “X”. It can be any width you need, up to 8”.
– Lee Sam
6 hours ago
1
That part about the X comes from this catalog page. The size chart for rough cut ties only contains the U and LU model of hangers (which really comes down to the profile and screw pattern) so that note is saying that if you really want an HU tie in one of those rough-cut sizes, you can order it. I think you'd be limited to those sizes (2, 4, 6, 8) and couldn't get a truly custom size.
– JPhi1618
6 hours ago
|
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I'm leaving my original answer below in case anyone is trying to hang a 1.75" board, but the question does clearly state 2.75", so, here is another option.
They do make joist hangers that are meant to hang doubled-up joists. These will be wide enough to handle 3 1/8" (hanger dimensions are here and have 1/8" of play for the doubled up joists that should be 3").
The extra 3/8" of width will be divided to 3/16" on either side, which shouldn't be a major concern. You could cut some 1/4-3/8" shim stock if you're worried about the slop. Strong-Tie also makes "rough sawn" hangers, but they measure 2" and 4" respectively (single and double hangers), so I think the standard double hanger is best here.
ORIGINAL ANSWER
The only thing that comes to mind immediately are decorative joist hangers used for decks and pergolas such as these.
These are made for decorative cedar that doesn't conform to the 1.5" standard that all framing lumber uses. If you look at the specifications for these particular hangers, they will accept lumber that is sized from 1.5" to 1.88". Your 1.75" fits nicely in that range. A standard joist hanger will only accept 1.5", as you have figured out.
Now, that one brand is just a random example that I have never used but your local home store and other online retailers should have similar products. You do need to get more detailed specs on the hanger you choose to determine its structural ability. These are not purely decorative - they do need to hold together pergolas and the like, but I am not sure if they are as strong as the typical galvanized joist hangers that are normally used.
answered 8 hours ago
JPhi1618JPhi1618
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The OP's joists are 2.75", not 1.75".
– brhans
8 hours ago
@brhans, yea that certainly makes a difference...
– JPhi1618
8 hours ago
Updated answer with an option for the correct size.
– JPhi1618
7 hours ago
I suspect that it's important for the member being suspended to fit snugly in the hanger, otherwise more sag is likely across the saddle of the hanger. I'd definitely shim the gap, but it would probably work fine to shim to one side or the other.
– isherwood
5 hours ago
This is also an option as there are 200 in stock at my local HD, but I will try to investigate the custom hanger option. I've seen them shimmed as you mentioned or even left with the gap. Example from TOH: tinypic.com/r/jjy2o6/9
– John August
4 hours ago
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Simpson Strong-Tie makes a “Face-Mount” joist hanger for “rough lumber” that can be custom ordered up to 8” wide.
It’s their HU Series. When ordering just add an “X” after the “normal” size you’d use. (Example: HU28X and then specify the width required.)
Btw, you can use the HU load tables for determining allowable loads they’ll resist and use the same fasteners, (i.e.: SD Strong Drive Connector Screw or substitute 10d common or 16d sinkers, where noted in the charts.)
answered 7 hours ago
Lee SamLee Sam
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Hm, I'm confused by this. Does that mean I can customize the size of my hanger order? The website says "HU hangers can be ordered in rough sizes at full table loads. Add "X" to the model designation (e.g., HU28X) and specify rough width or height. Maximum width 8"."
– John August
7 hours ago
What is the actual width of a hu28x ?
– John August
7 hours ago
@JohnAugust Yes, they are “custom” when you add the “X”
– Lee Sam
6 hours ago
@JohnAugust You determine the width when you add the “X”. It can be any width you need, up to 8”.
– Lee Sam
6 hours ago
1
That part about the X comes from this catalog page. The size chart for rough cut ties only contains the U and LU model of hangers (which really comes down to the profile and screw pattern) so that note is saying that if you really want an HU tie in one of those rough-cut sizes, you can order it. I think you'd be limited to those sizes (2, 4, 6, 8) and couldn't get a truly custom size.
– JPhi1618
6 hours ago
|
show 4 more comments
Simpson Strong-Tie makes a “Face-Mount” joist hanger for “rough lumber” that can be custom ordered up to 8” wide.
It’s their HU Series. When ordering just add an “X” after the “normal” size you’d use. (Example: HU28X and then specify the width required.)
Btw, you can use the HU load tables for determining allowable loads they’ll resist and use the same fasteners, (i.e.: SD Strong Drive Connector Screw or substitute 10d common or 16d sinkers, where noted in the charts.)
answered 7 hours ago
Lee SamLee Sam
11.8k3819
Hm, I'm confused by this. Does that mean I can customize the size of my hanger order? The website says "HU hangers can be ordered in rough sizes at full table loads. Add "X" to the model designation (e.g., HU28X) and specify rough width or height. Maximum width 8"."
– John August
7 hours ago
What is the actual width of a hu28x ?
– John August
7 hours ago
@JohnAugust Yes, they are “custom” when you add the “X”
– Lee Sam
6 hours ago
@JohnAugust You determine the width when you add the “X”. It can be any width you need, up to 8”.
– Lee Sam
6 hours ago
1
That part about the X comes from this catalog page. The size chart for rough cut ties only contains the U and LU model of hangers (which really comes down to the profile and screw pattern) so that note is saying that if you really want an HU tie in one of those rough-cut sizes, you can order it. I think you'd be limited to those sizes (2, 4, 6, 8) and couldn't get a truly custom size.
– JPhi1618
6 hours ago
|
show 4 more comments
Simpson Strong-Tie makes a “Face-Mount” joist hanger for “rough lumber” that can be custom ordered up to 8” wide.
It’s their HU Series. When ordering just add an “X” after the “normal” size you’d use. (Example: HU28X and then specify the width required.)
Btw, you can use the HU load tables for determining allowable loads they’ll resist and use the same fasteners, (i.e.: SD Strong Drive Connector Screw or substitute 10d common or 16d sinkers, where noted in the charts.)
answered 7 hours ago
Lee SamLee Sam
11.8k3819
Simpson Strong-Tie makes a “Face-Mount” joist hanger for “rough lumber” that can be custom ordered up to 8” wide.
It’s their HU Series. When ordering just add an “X” after the “normal” size you’d use. (Example: HU28X and then specify the width required.)
Btw, you can use the HU load tables for determining allowable loads they’ll resist and use the same fasteners, (i.e.: SD Strong Drive Connector Screw or substitute 10d common or 16d sinkers, where noted in the charts.)
answered 7 hours ago
Lee SamLee Sam
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Lee SamLee Sam
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answered 7 hours ago
Lee SamLee Sam
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answered 7 hours ago
Lee SamLee Sam
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Hm, I'm confused by this. Does that mean I can customize the size of my hanger order? The website says "HU hangers can be ordered in rough sizes at full table loads. Add "X" to the model designation (e.g., HU28X) and specify rough width or height. Maximum width 8"."
– John August
7 hours ago
What is the actual width of a hu28x ?
– John August
7 hours ago
@JohnAugust Yes, they are “custom” when you add the “X”
– Lee Sam
6 hours ago
@JohnAugust You determine the width when you add the “X”. It can be any width you need, up to 8”.
– Lee Sam
6 hours ago
1
That part about the X comes from this catalog page. The size chart for rough cut ties only contains the U and LU model of hangers (which really comes down to the profile and screw pattern) so that note is saying that if you really want an HU tie in one of those rough-cut sizes, you can order it. I think you'd be limited to those sizes (2, 4, 6, 8) and couldn't get a truly custom size.
– JPhi1618
6 hours ago
|
show 4 more comments
Hm, I'm confused by this. Does that mean I can customize the size of my hanger order? The website says "HU hangers can be ordered in rough sizes at full table loads. Add "X" to the model designation (e.g., HU28X) and specify rough width or height. Maximum width 8"."
– John August
7 hours ago
What is the actual width of a hu28x ?
– John August
7 hours ago
@JohnAugust Yes, they are “custom” when you add the “X”
– Lee Sam
6 hours ago
@JohnAugust You determine the width when you add the “X”. It can be any width you need, up to 8”.
– Lee Sam
6 hours ago
1
That part about the X comes from this catalog page. The size chart for rough cut ties only contains the U and LU model of hangers (which really comes down to the profile and screw pattern) so that note is saying that if you really want an HU tie in one of those rough-cut sizes, you can order it. I think you'd be limited to those sizes (2, 4, 6, 8) and couldn't get a truly custom size.
– JPhi1618
6 hours ago
Hm, I'm confused by this. Does that mean I can customize the size of my hanger order? The website says "HU hangers can be ordered in rough sizes at full table loads. Add "X" to the model designation (e.g., HU28X) and specify rough width or height. Maximum width 8"."
– John August
7 hours ago
Hm, I'm confused by this. Does that mean I can customize the size of my hanger order? The website says "HU hangers can be ordered in rough sizes at full table loads. Add "X" to the model designation (e.g., HU28X) and specify rough width or height. Maximum width 8"."
– John August
7 hours ago
What is the actual width of a hu28x ?
– John August
7 hours ago
What is the actual width of a hu28x ?
– John August
7 hours ago
@JohnAugust Yes, they are “custom” when you add the “X”
– Lee Sam
6 hours ago
@JohnAugust Yes, they are “custom” when you add the “X”
– Lee Sam
6 hours ago
@JohnAugust You determine the width when you add the “X”. It can be any width you need, up to 8”.
– Lee Sam
6 hours ago
@JohnAugust You determine the width when you add the “X”. It can be any width you need, up to 8”.
– Lee Sam
6 hours ago
1
1
That part about the X comes from this catalog page. The size chart for rough cut ties only contains the U and LU model of hangers (which really comes down to the profile and screw pattern) so that note is saying that if you really want an HU tie in one of those rough-cut sizes, you can order it. I think you'd be limited to those sizes (2, 4, 6, 8) and couldn't get a truly custom size.
– JPhi1618
6 hours ago
That part about the X comes from this catalog page. The size chart for rough cut ties only contains the U and LU model of hangers (which really comes down to the profile and screw pattern) so that note is saying that if you really want an HU tie in one of those rough-cut sizes, you can order it. I think you'd be limited to those sizes (2, 4, 6, 8) and couldn't get a truly custom size.
– JPhi1618
6 hours ago
|
show 4 more comments
I'm leaving my original answer below in case anyone is trying to hang a 1.75" board, but the question does clearly state 2.75", so, here is another option.
They do make joist hangers that are meant to hang doubled-up joists. These will be wide enough to handle 3 1/8" (hanger dimensions are here and have 1/8" of play for the doubled up joists that should be 3").
The extra 3/8" of width will be divided to 3/16" on either side, which shouldn't be a major concern. You could cut some 1/4-3/8" shim stock if you're worried about the slop. Strong-Tie also makes "rough sawn" hangers, but they measure 2" and 4" respectively (single and double hangers), so I think the standard double hanger is best here.
ORIGINAL ANSWER
The only thing that comes to mind immediately are decorative joist hangers used for decks and pergolas such as these.
These are made for decorative cedar that doesn't conform to the 1.5" standard that all framing lumber uses. If you look at the specifications for these particular hangers, they will accept lumber that is sized from 1.5" to 1.88". Your 1.75" fits nicely in that range. A standard joist hanger will only accept 1.5", as you have figured out.
Now, that one brand is just a random example that I have never used but your local home store and other online retailers should have similar products. You do need to get more detailed specs on the hanger you choose to determine its structural ability. These are not purely decorative - they do need to hold together pergolas and the like, but I am not sure if they are as strong as the typical galvanized joist hangers that are normally used.
answered 8 hours ago
JPhi1618JPhi1618
11.5k22548
The OP's joists are 2.75", not 1.75".
– brhans
8 hours ago
@brhans, yea that certainly makes a difference...
– JPhi1618
8 hours ago
Updated answer with an option for the correct size.
– JPhi1618
7 hours ago
I suspect that it's important for the member being suspended to fit snugly in the hanger, otherwise more sag is likely across the saddle of the hanger. I'd definitely shim the gap, but it would probably work fine to shim to one side or the other.
– isherwood
5 hours ago
This is also an option as there are 200 in stock at my local HD, but I will try to investigate the custom hanger option. I've seen them shimmed as you mentioned or even left with the gap. Example from TOH: tinypic.com/r/jjy2o6/9
– John August
4 hours ago
add a comment |
I'm leaving my original answer below in case anyone is trying to hang a 1.75" board, but the question does clearly state 2.75", so, here is another option.
They do make joist hangers that are meant to hang doubled-up joists. These will be wide enough to handle 3 1/8" (hanger dimensions are here and have 1/8" of play for the doubled up joists that should be 3").
The extra 3/8" of width will be divided to 3/16" on either side, which shouldn't be a major concern. You could cut some 1/4-3/8" shim stock if you're worried about the slop. Strong-Tie also makes "rough sawn" hangers, but they measure 2" and 4" respectively (single and double hangers), so I think the standard double hanger is best here.
ORIGINAL ANSWER
The only thing that comes to mind immediately are decorative joist hangers used for decks and pergolas such as these.
These are made for decorative cedar that doesn't conform to the 1.5" standard that all framing lumber uses. If you look at the specifications for these particular hangers, they will accept lumber that is sized from 1.5" to 1.88". Your 1.75" fits nicely in that range. A standard joist hanger will only accept 1.5", as you have figured out.
Now, that one brand is just a random example that I have never used but your local home store and other online retailers should have similar products. You do need to get more detailed specs on the hanger you choose to determine its structural ability. These are not purely decorative - they do need to hold together pergolas and the like, but I am not sure if they are as strong as the typical galvanized joist hangers that are normally used.
answered 8 hours ago
JPhi1618JPhi1618
11.5k22548
The OP's joists are 2.75", not 1.75".
– brhans
8 hours ago
@brhans, yea that certainly makes a difference...
– JPhi1618
8 hours ago
Updated answer with an option for the correct size.
– JPhi1618
7 hours ago
I suspect that it's important for the member being suspended to fit snugly in the hanger, otherwise more sag is likely across the saddle of the hanger. I'd definitely shim the gap, but it would probably work fine to shim to one side or the other.
– isherwood
5 hours ago
This is also an option as there are 200 in stock at my local HD, but I will try to investigate the custom hanger option. I've seen them shimmed as you mentioned or even left with the gap. Example from TOH: tinypic.com/r/jjy2o6/9
– John August
4 hours ago
add a comment |
I'm leaving my original answer below in case anyone is trying to hang a 1.75" board, but the question does clearly state 2.75", so, here is another option.
They do make joist hangers that are meant to hang doubled-up joists. These will be wide enough to handle 3 1/8" (hanger dimensions are here and have 1/8" of play for the doubled up joists that should be 3").
The extra 3/8" of width will be divided to 3/16" on either side, which shouldn't be a major concern. You could cut some 1/4-3/8" shim stock if you're worried about the slop. Strong-Tie also makes "rough sawn" hangers, but they measure 2" and 4" respectively (single and double hangers), so I think the standard double hanger is best here.
ORIGINAL ANSWER
The only thing that comes to mind immediately are decorative joist hangers used for decks and pergolas such as these.
These are made for decorative cedar that doesn't conform to the 1.5" standard that all framing lumber uses. If you look at the specifications for these particular hangers, they will accept lumber that is sized from 1.5" to 1.88". Your 1.75" fits nicely in that range. A standard joist hanger will only accept 1.5", as you have figured out.
Now, that one brand is just a random example that I have never used but your local home store and other online retailers should have similar products. You do need to get more detailed specs on the hanger you choose to determine its structural ability. These are not purely decorative - they do need to hold together pergolas and the like, but I am not sure if they are as strong as the typical galvanized joist hangers that are normally used.
answered 8 hours ago
JPhi1618JPhi1618
11.5k22548
I'm leaving my original answer below in case anyone is trying to hang a 1.75" board, but the question does clearly state 2.75", so, here is another option.
They do make joist hangers that are meant to hang doubled-up joists. These will be wide enough to handle 3 1/8" (hanger dimensions are here and have 1/8" of play for the doubled up joists that should be 3").
The extra 3/8" of width will be divided to 3/16" on either side, which shouldn't be a major concern. You could cut some 1/4-3/8" shim stock if you're worried about the slop. Strong-Tie also makes "rough sawn" hangers, but they measure 2" and 4" respectively (single and double hangers), so I think the standard double hanger is best here.
ORIGINAL ANSWER
The only thing that comes to mind immediately are decorative joist hangers used for decks and pergolas such as these.
These are made for decorative cedar that doesn't conform to the 1.5" standard that all framing lumber uses. If you look at the specifications for these particular hangers, they will accept lumber that is sized from 1.5" to 1.88". Your 1.75" fits nicely in that range. A standard joist hanger will only accept 1.5", as you have figured out.
Now, that one brand is just a random example that I have never used but your local home store and other online retailers should have similar products. You do need to get more detailed specs on the hanger you choose to determine its structural ability. These are not purely decorative - they do need to hold together pergolas and the like, but I am not sure if they are as strong as the typical galvanized joist hangers that are normally used.
answered 8 hours ago
JPhi1618JPhi1618
11.5k22548
edited 7 hours ago
answered 8 hours ago
JPhi1618JPhi1618
11.5k22548
answered 8 hours ago
JPhi1618JPhi1618
11.5k22548
answered 8 hours ago
JPhi1618JPhi1618
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The OP's joists are 2.75", not 1.75".
– brhans
8 hours ago
@brhans, yea that certainly makes a difference...
– JPhi1618
8 hours ago
Updated answer with an option for the correct size.
– JPhi1618
7 hours ago
I suspect that it's important for the member being suspended to fit snugly in the hanger, otherwise more sag is likely across the saddle of the hanger. I'd definitely shim the gap, but it would probably work fine to shim to one side or the other.
– isherwood
5 hours ago
This is also an option as there are 200 in stock at my local HD, but I will try to investigate the custom hanger option. I've seen them shimmed as you mentioned or even left with the gap. Example from TOH: tinypic.com/r/jjy2o6/9
– John August
4 hours ago
add a comment |
The OP's joists are 2.75", not 1.75".
– brhans
8 hours ago
@brhans, yea that certainly makes a difference...
– JPhi1618
8 hours ago
Updated answer with an option for the correct size.
– JPhi1618
7 hours ago
I suspect that it's important for the member being suspended to fit snugly in the hanger, otherwise more sag is likely across the saddle of the hanger. I'd definitely shim the gap, but it would probably work fine to shim to one side or the other.
– isherwood
5 hours ago
This is also an option as there are 200 in stock at my local HD, but I will try to investigate the custom hanger option. I've seen them shimmed as you mentioned or even left with the gap. Example from TOH: tinypic.com/r/jjy2o6/9
– John August
4 hours ago
The OP's joists are 2.75", not 1.75".
– brhans
8 hours ago
The OP's joists are 2.75", not 1.75".
– brhans
8 hours ago
@brhans, yea that certainly makes a difference...
– JPhi1618
8 hours ago
@brhans, yea that certainly makes a difference...
– JPhi1618
8 hours ago
Updated answer with an option for the correct size.
– JPhi1618
7 hours ago
Updated answer with an option for the correct size.
– JPhi1618
7 hours ago
I suspect that it's important for the member being suspended to fit snugly in the hanger, otherwise more sag is likely across the saddle of the hanger. I'd definitely shim the gap, but it would probably work fine to shim to one side or the other.
– isherwood
5 hours ago
I suspect that it's important for the member being suspended to fit snugly in the hanger, otherwise more sag is likely across the saddle of the hanger. I'd definitely shim the gap, but it would probably work fine to shim to one side or the other.
– isherwood
5 hours ago
This is also an option as there are 200 in stock at my local HD, but I will try to investigate the custom hanger option. I've seen them shimmed as you mentioned or even left with the gap. Example from TOH: tinypic.com/r/jjy2o6/9
– John August
4 hours ago
This is also an option as there are 200 in stock at my local HD, but I will try to investigate the custom hanger option. I've seen them shimmed as you mentioned or even left with the gap. Example from TOH: tinypic.com/r/jjy2o6/9
– John August
4 hours ago
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