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Given four points how can I find an equation for any pattern?
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If for example I know that there's a function f(x) that equals 1 at x=8, 8 at x=32, 36 at x=64, 98 at x=128.
How can I find the expression for this pattern or any other pattern?
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If for example I know that there's a function f(x) that equals 1 at x=8, 8 at x=32, 36 at x=64, 98 at x=128.
How can I find the expression for this pattern or any other pattern?
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You're not guaranteed one unique pattern/function. You can use polynomial interpolation to get a formula $f$ where $deg(f) = n-1$ if you have have $n$ pairs $(x,f(x))$. Said $f$ will even be unique. But higher degree polynomials could also fit it, infinitely many in fact. And this is all just polynomial functions mind you.
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If for example I know that there's a function f(x) that equals 1 at x=8, 8 at x=32, 36 at x=64, 98 at x=128.
How can I find the expression for this pattern or any other pattern?
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If for example I know that there's a function f(x) that equals 1 at x=8, 8 at x=32, 36 at x=64, 98 at x=128.
How can I find the expression for this pattern or any other pattern?
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You're not guaranteed one unique pattern/function. You can use polynomial interpolation to get a formula $f$ where $deg(f) = n-1$ if you have have $n$ pairs $(x,f(x))$. Said $f$ will even be unique. But higher degree polynomials could also fit it, infinitely many in fact. And this is all just polynomial functions mind you.
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You're not guaranteed one unique pattern/function. You can use polynomial interpolation to get a formula $f$ where $deg(f) = n-1$ if you have have $n$ pairs $(x,f(x))$. Said $f$ will even be unique. But higher degree polynomials could also fit it, infinitely many in fact. And this is all just polynomial functions mind you.
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You're not guaranteed one unique pattern/function. You can use polynomial interpolation to get a formula $f$ where $deg(f) = n-1$ if you have have $n$ pairs $(x,f(x))$. Said $f$ will even be unique. But higher degree polynomials could also fit it, infinitely many in fact. And this is all just polynomial functions mind you.
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You're not guaranteed one unique pattern/function. You can use polynomial interpolation to get a formula $f$ where $deg(f) = n-1$ if you have have $n$ pairs $(x,f(x))$. Said $f$ will even be unique. But higher degree polynomials could also fit it, infinitely many in fact. And this is all just polynomial functions mind you.
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The process is called "interpolation". There are an indefinite number of ways to do this for a given set of points.
One way is Lagrange Interpolation which I discuss in the answer linked below :
Explanation of Lagrange Interpolating Polynomial
I have plotted the Lagrange Polynomial for your curve on Desmos. You can see that it matches the pattern you gave. You can interact with the plot by clicking on the link below.
https://www.desmos.com/calculator/enavzwsl09
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Thanks a bunch! this is very helpful
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– Mohammad AlSaqqa
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I'm glad it was helpful :). I noticed that you were having issues implementing the Lagrange Interpolating polynomial provided by J. W. Tanner, so I implemented it my self in Desmos. Hopefully that can clear things up for you.
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– Spencer
1 hour ago
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Here's one (not simplified):
$f(x)=dfrac{(x-32)(x-64)(x-128)}{(8-32)(8-64)(8-128)}1+dfrac{(x-8)(x-64)(x-128)}{(32-8)(32-64)(32-128)}8$
$;+dfrac{(x-8)(x-32)(x-128)}{(64-8)(64-32)(64-128)}36+dfrac{(x-8)(x-32)(x-64)}{(128-8)(128-32)(128-64)}98$
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this equation gave back 68687616x^3-6932668416x^2+186621886464x-1080117166080 which did not fit the curve
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– Mohammad AlSaqqa
1 hour ago
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I had a typo. ($28$ instead of $128$), which I just corrected
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– J. W. Tanner
1 hour ago
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It still does not fit the curve, is my pattern maybe can't be represented as a polynomial?
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– Mohammad AlSaqqa
1 hour ago
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There are many polynomials that fit the four points you gave; I showed how to get one of them
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– J. W. Tanner
27 mins ago
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The process is called "interpolation". There are an indefinite number of ways to do this for a given set of points.
One way is Lagrange Interpolation which I discuss in the answer linked below :
Explanation of Lagrange Interpolating Polynomial
I have plotted the Lagrange Polynomial for your curve on Desmos. You can see that it matches the pattern you gave. You can interact with the plot by clicking on the link below.
https://www.desmos.com/calculator/enavzwsl09
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Thanks a bunch! this is very helpful
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– Mohammad AlSaqqa
2 hours ago
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I'm glad it was helpful :). I noticed that you were having issues implementing the Lagrange Interpolating polynomial provided by J. W. Tanner, so I implemented it my self in Desmos. Hopefully that can clear things up for you.
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– Spencer
1 hour ago
add a comment |
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The process is called "interpolation". There are an indefinite number of ways to do this for a given set of points.
One way is Lagrange Interpolation which I discuss in the answer linked below :
Explanation of Lagrange Interpolating Polynomial
I have plotted the Lagrange Polynomial for your curve on Desmos. You can see that it matches the pattern you gave. You can interact with the plot by clicking on the link below.
https://www.desmos.com/calculator/enavzwsl09
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Thanks a bunch! this is very helpful
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– Mohammad AlSaqqa
2 hours ago
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I'm glad it was helpful :). I noticed that you were having issues implementing the Lagrange Interpolating polynomial provided by J. W. Tanner, so I implemented it my self in Desmos. Hopefully that can clear things up for you.
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– Spencer
1 hour ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
The process is called "interpolation". There are an indefinite number of ways to do this for a given set of points.
One way is Lagrange Interpolation which I discuss in the answer linked below :
Explanation of Lagrange Interpolating Polynomial
I have plotted the Lagrange Polynomial for your curve on Desmos. You can see that it matches the pattern you gave. You can interact with the plot by clicking on the link below.
https://www.desmos.com/calculator/enavzwsl09
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The process is called "interpolation". There are an indefinite number of ways to do this for a given set of points.
One way is Lagrange Interpolation which I discuss in the answer linked below :
Explanation of Lagrange Interpolating Polynomial
I have plotted the Lagrange Polynomial for your curve on Desmos. You can see that it matches the pattern you gave. You can interact with the plot by clicking on the link below.
https://www.desmos.com/calculator/enavzwsl09
edited 1 hour ago
answered 2 hours ago
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Thanks a bunch! this is very helpful
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– Mohammad AlSaqqa
2 hours ago
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I'm glad it was helpful :). I noticed that you were having issues implementing the Lagrange Interpolating polynomial provided by J. W. Tanner, so I implemented it my self in Desmos. Hopefully that can clear things up for you.
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– Spencer
1 hour ago
add a comment |
1
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Thanks a bunch! this is very helpful
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– Mohammad AlSaqqa
2 hours ago
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I'm glad it was helpful :). I noticed that you were having issues implementing the Lagrange Interpolating polynomial provided by J. W. Tanner, so I implemented it my self in Desmos. Hopefully that can clear things up for you.
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– Spencer
1 hour ago
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Thanks a bunch! this is very helpful
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– Mohammad AlSaqqa
2 hours ago
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Thanks a bunch! this is very helpful
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– Mohammad AlSaqqa
2 hours ago
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I'm glad it was helpful :). I noticed that you were having issues implementing the Lagrange Interpolating polynomial provided by J. W. Tanner, so I implemented it my self in Desmos. Hopefully that can clear things up for you.
$endgroup$
– Spencer
1 hour ago
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I'm glad it was helpful :). I noticed that you were having issues implementing the Lagrange Interpolating polynomial provided by J. W. Tanner, so I implemented it my self in Desmos. Hopefully that can clear things up for you.
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– Spencer
1 hour ago
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Here's one (not simplified):
$f(x)=dfrac{(x-32)(x-64)(x-128)}{(8-32)(8-64)(8-128)}1+dfrac{(x-8)(x-64)(x-128)}{(32-8)(32-64)(32-128)}8$
$;+dfrac{(x-8)(x-32)(x-128)}{(64-8)(64-32)(64-128)}36+dfrac{(x-8)(x-32)(x-64)}{(128-8)(128-32)(128-64)}98$
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this equation gave back 68687616x^3-6932668416x^2+186621886464x-1080117166080 which did not fit the curve
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– Mohammad AlSaqqa
1 hour ago
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I had a typo. ($28$ instead of $128$), which I just corrected
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– J. W. Tanner
1 hour ago
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It still does not fit the curve, is my pattern maybe can't be represented as a polynomial?
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– Mohammad AlSaqqa
1 hour ago
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There are many polynomials that fit the four points you gave; I showed how to get one of them
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– J. W. Tanner
27 mins ago
add a comment |
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Here's one (not simplified):
$f(x)=dfrac{(x-32)(x-64)(x-128)}{(8-32)(8-64)(8-128)}1+dfrac{(x-8)(x-64)(x-128)}{(32-8)(32-64)(32-128)}8$
$;+dfrac{(x-8)(x-32)(x-128)}{(64-8)(64-32)(64-128)}36+dfrac{(x-8)(x-32)(x-64)}{(128-8)(128-32)(128-64)}98$
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this equation gave back 68687616x^3-6932668416x^2+186621886464x-1080117166080 which did not fit the curve
$endgroup$
– Mohammad AlSaqqa
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
I had a typo. ($28$ instead of $128$), which I just corrected
$endgroup$
– J. W. Tanner
1 hour ago
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It still does not fit the curve, is my pattern maybe can't be represented as a polynomial?
$endgroup$
– Mohammad AlSaqqa
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
There are many polynomials that fit the four points you gave; I showed how to get one of them
$endgroup$
– J. W. Tanner
27 mins ago
add a comment |
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Here's one (not simplified):
$f(x)=dfrac{(x-32)(x-64)(x-128)}{(8-32)(8-64)(8-128)}1+dfrac{(x-8)(x-64)(x-128)}{(32-8)(32-64)(32-128)}8$
$;+dfrac{(x-8)(x-32)(x-128)}{(64-8)(64-32)(64-128)}36+dfrac{(x-8)(x-32)(x-64)}{(128-8)(128-32)(128-64)}98$
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Here's one (not simplified):
$f(x)=dfrac{(x-32)(x-64)(x-128)}{(8-32)(8-64)(8-128)}1+dfrac{(x-8)(x-64)(x-128)}{(32-8)(32-64)(32-128)}8$
$;+dfrac{(x-8)(x-32)(x-128)}{(64-8)(64-32)(64-128)}36+dfrac{(x-8)(x-32)(x-64)}{(128-8)(128-32)(128-64)}98$
edited 1 hour ago
answered 2 hours ago
J. W. TannerJ. W. Tanner
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this equation gave back 68687616x^3-6932668416x^2+186621886464x-1080117166080 which did not fit the curve
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– Mohammad AlSaqqa
1 hour ago
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I had a typo. ($28$ instead of $128$), which I just corrected
$endgroup$
– J. W. Tanner
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
It still does not fit the curve, is my pattern maybe can't be represented as a polynomial?
$endgroup$
– Mohammad AlSaqqa
1 hour ago
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There are many polynomials that fit the four points you gave; I showed how to get one of them
$endgroup$
– J. W. Tanner
27 mins ago
add a comment |
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this equation gave back 68687616x^3-6932668416x^2+186621886464x-1080117166080 which did not fit the curve
$endgroup$
– Mohammad AlSaqqa
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
I had a typo. ($28$ instead of $128$), which I just corrected
$endgroup$
– J. W. Tanner
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
It still does not fit the curve, is my pattern maybe can't be represented as a polynomial?
$endgroup$
– Mohammad AlSaqqa
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
There are many polynomials that fit the four points you gave; I showed how to get one of them
$endgroup$
– J. W. Tanner
27 mins ago
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this equation gave back 68687616x^3-6932668416x^2+186621886464x-1080117166080 which did not fit the curve
$endgroup$
– Mohammad AlSaqqa
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
this equation gave back 68687616x^3-6932668416x^2+186621886464x-1080117166080 which did not fit the curve
$endgroup$
– Mohammad AlSaqqa
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
I had a typo. ($28$ instead of $128$), which I just corrected
$endgroup$
– J. W. Tanner
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
I had a typo. ($28$ instead of $128$), which I just corrected
$endgroup$
– J. W. Tanner
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
It still does not fit the curve, is my pattern maybe can't be represented as a polynomial?
$endgroup$
– Mohammad AlSaqqa
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
It still does not fit the curve, is my pattern maybe can't be represented as a polynomial?
$endgroup$
– Mohammad AlSaqqa
1 hour ago
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There are many polynomials that fit the four points you gave; I showed how to get one of them
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– J. W. Tanner
27 mins ago
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There are many polynomials that fit the four points you gave; I showed how to get one of them
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– J. W. Tanner
27 mins ago
add a comment |
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You're not guaranteed one unique pattern/function. You can use polynomial interpolation to get a formula $f$ where $deg(f) = n-1$ if you have have $n$ pairs $(x,f(x))$. Said $f$ will even be unique. But higher degree polynomials could also fit it, infinitely many in fact. And this is all just polynomial functions mind you.
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– Eevee Trainer
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