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I ran into this issue during my homework. Using the rules of logarithms, I need to prove that
$$
-2lnbigg(frac{2}{sqrt{6}}bigg)=ln3-ln2
$$
So here were my steps:
- First step:
$$
-2lnbigg(frac{2}{sqrt{6}}bigg)=lnbigg(frac{2}{sqrt{6}}bigg)^{-2}
$$
And that's as far as I got, because now I want to use the form $ln(a/b) = ln(a) - ln(b)$, but first I need to reduce the fraction because it is raised to the $-2$.
How do I evaluate $bigg(frac{2}{sqrt{6}}bigg)^{-2}$ ?
Thanks
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I ran into this issue during my homework. Using the rules of logarithms, I need to prove that
$$
-2lnbigg(frac{2}{sqrt{6}}bigg)=ln3-ln2
$$
So here were my steps:
- First step:
$$
-2lnbigg(frac{2}{sqrt{6}}bigg)=lnbigg(frac{2}{sqrt{6}}bigg)^{-2}
$$
And that's as far as I got, because now I want to use the form $ln(a/b) = ln(a) - ln(b)$, but first I need to reduce the fraction because it is raised to the $-2$.
How do I evaluate $bigg(frac{2}{sqrt{6}}bigg)^{-2}$ ?
Thanks
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Note that $x^{-a} = frac{1}{x^a}$
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I've edited your title, as you had it backwards.
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I ran into this issue during my homework. Using the rules of logarithms, I need to prove that
$$
-2lnbigg(frac{2}{sqrt{6}}bigg)=ln3-ln2
$$
So here were my steps:
- First step:
$$
-2lnbigg(frac{2}{sqrt{6}}bigg)=lnbigg(frac{2}{sqrt{6}}bigg)^{-2}
$$
And that's as far as I got, because now I want to use the form $ln(a/b) = ln(a) - ln(b)$, but first I need to reduce the fraction because it is raised to the $-2$.
How do I evaluate $bigg(frac{2}{sqrt{6}}bigg)^{-2}$ ?
Thanks
logarithms
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I ran into this issue during my homework. Using the rules of logarithms, I need to prove that
$$
-2lnbigg(frac{2}{sqrt{6}}bigg)=ln3-ln2
$$
So here were my steps:
- First step:
$$
-2lnbigg(frac{2}{sqrt{6}}bigg)=lnbigg(frac{2}{sqrt{6}}bigg)^{-2}
$$
And that's as far as I got, because now I want to use the form $ln(a/b) = ln(a) - ln(b)$, but first I need to reduce the fraction because it is raised to the $-2$.
How do I evaluate $bigg(frac{2}{sqrt{6}}bigg)^{-2}$ ?
Thanks
logarithms
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$a^{-k} = frac 1{a^k}$ by definition.
So $bigg(frac{2}{sqrt{6}}bigg)^{-2} =frac 1{bigg(frac{2}{sqrt{6}}bigg)^{2}}=$
$frac 1{bigg(frac {2^2}{sqrt 6^2}bigg)}=frac {sqrt 6^2}{2^2}=frac 64=frac 32$
It will help to realize that $(frac ab)^{-1} = frac 1{(frac ab)} = frac ba$ and that $(frac ab)^k = frac {a^k}{b^k}$ to realize that that means $(frac ab)^{-k} = frac 1{(frac ab)^k}= frac 1{(frac {a^k}{b^k})} = frac {b^k}{a^k}$.
(Also $(frac ab)^{-k} = [(frac ab)^{-1}]^k = (frac ba)^k=frac {b^k}{a^k}$ or that $(frac ab)^{-k} = frac {a^{-k}}{b^{-k}} = frac {(frac 1{a^k})}{(frac 1{b^k})} = frac {b^k}{a^k}$.)
In any event
$(frac {2}{sqrt 6})^{-2} = (frac {sqrt 6}{ 2})^2 = frac {sqrt 6^2}{2^2} = frac 64 = frac 32$.
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Perfect, this is the explanation I was looking for. So now after a few steps, I'll get ln(3/2) = ln(3) - ln(2).
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$$begin{align}
-2ln left( frac{2}{sqrt 6} right) &= -2big( ln(2)-ln(sqrt{6}) big) \
&= -2ln(2)+2ln(6^{1/2}) \
&= -2ln(2)+ln(2cdot 3) \
&=-2ln(2)+ big( ln(2)+ln(3)big) \
&=ln(3)-ln(2)
end{align}$$
And for your specific question, remember that
$$left( frac{a}{b} right)^{-n}=left( frac{b}{a} right)^n$$
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Using your first step,
$-2 ln(frac{2}{sqrt{6}}) = ln(frac{2}{sqrt{6}})^{-2} = ln frac{1}{(frac{2}{sqrt{6}})^{2}} = ln frac{6}{4} = lnfrac{3}{2} = ln 3 - ln 2$
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Well you may start by distributing the index since $2$ and $sqrt 6$ are positive. Thus $$left(frac{2}{sqrt{6}}right)^{-2}=frac{2^{-2}}{{sqrt 6}^{-2}}.$$
Then recall that for any nonzero number $a$ and any negative integer $-n,$ we have $$a^{-n}=frac {1}{a^n}.$$ Applying this to your expression, we have $$frac{2^{-2}}{{sqrt 6}^{-2}}=frac{frac {1}{2^2}}{frac{1}{{sqrt 6}^2}}=frac{frac {1}{4}}{frac{1}{6}}=frac{6}{4}=frac 32.$$
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$$ -2 ln left( frac{2}{sqrt{6}} right) = ln 3 - ln 2$$
if and only if
$$ ln left( frac{2}{sqrt{6}} right)^{-2} = ln left( frac{3}{2}right) $$
if and only if
$$ ln left[ frac{1}{left(frac{2}{sqrt{6}}right)^{2}} right] = ln left( frac{3}{2}right)$$
And so, we have
$$ ln left( frac{6}{4} right) = ln left( frac{3}{2}right)$$
which is true.
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you started by assuming the statement to be proven, so in reality you haven't shown anything. You need to run the argument in reverse
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One way to prove something is to take the LHS = RHS and proceed with a series of iff statements until something obvious is obtained. I neglected to include them initially.
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$4 = 10 implies 7-3 =7+3 implies-3= 3 implies (-3)^2 = 3^2 implies 9=9$ which is true. Therefore $4 = 10$. Or if penguins were elephants then they would both eat food. Which is true. So penguins are elephants.
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"One way to prove something is to take the LHS = RHS and proceed with a series of iff statements until something obvious is obtained." But if you do that you MUST specify the steps are actually if and only if steps. If you do not SPECIFICALLY state that it is reasonable to assume they are only forward implications and the proof is not valid.
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Your first comment is not if and only if; and neither is you second. Forward implications is one-way; necessary and sufficient (i.e., if and only if are both ways). In the case of this problem, start from the given equation and work it to where I finished. Any problem with that. Now, if you want to do the work, start w/ the last statement and by a series of implications, show it implies the initial equation. I chose iff and only if instead.
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$a^{-k} = frac 1{a^k}$ by definition.
So $bigg(frac{2}{sqrt{6}}bigg)^{-2} =frac 1{bigg(frac{2}{sqrt{6}}bigg)^{2}}=$
$frac 1{bigg(frac {2^2}{sqrt 6^2}bigg)}=frac {sqrt 6^2}{2^2}=frac 64=frac 32$
It will help to realize that $(frac ab)^{-1} = frac 1{(frac ab)} = frac ba$ and that $(frac ab)^k = frac {a^k}{b^k}$ to realize that that means $(frac ab)^{-k} = frac 1{(frac ab)^k}= frac 1{(frac {a^k}{b^k})} = frac {b^k}{a^k}$.
(Also $(frac ab)^{-k} = [(frac ab)^{-1}]^k = (frac ba)^k=frac {b^k}{a^k}$ or that $(frac ab)^{-k} = frac {a^{-k}}{b^{-k}} = frac {(frac 1{a^k})}{(frac 1{b^k})} = frac {b^k}{a^k}$.)
In any event
$(frac {2}{sqrt 6})^{-2} = (frac {sqrt 6}{ 2})^2 = frac {sqrt 6^2}{2^2} = frac 64 = frac 32$.
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Perfect, this is the explanation I was looking for. So now after a few steps, I'll get ln(3/2) = ln(3) - ln(2).
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$a^{-k} = frac 1{a^k}$ by definition.
So $bigg(frac{2}{sqrt{6}}bigg)^{-2} =frac 1{bigg(frac{2}{sqrt{6}}bigg)^{2}}=$
$frac 1{bigg(frac {2^2}{sqrt 6^2}bigg)}=frac {sqrt 6^2}{2^2}=frac 64=frac 32$
It will help to realize that $(frac ab)^{-1} = frac 1{(frac ab)} = frac ba$ and that $(frac ab)^k = frac {a^k}{b^k}$ to realize that that means $(frac ab)^{-k} = frac 1{(frac ab)^k}= frac 1{(frac {a^k}{b^k})} = frac {b^k}{a^k}$.
(Also $(frac ab)^{-k} = [(frac ab)^{-1}]^k = (frac ba)^k=frac {b^k}{a^k}$ or that $(frac ab)^{-k} = frac {a^{-k}}{b^{-k}} = frac {(frac 1{a^k})}{(frac 1{b^k})} = frac {b^k}{a^k}$.)
In any event
$(frac {2}{sqrt 6})^{-2} = (frac {sqrt 6}{ 2})^2 = frac {sqrt 6^2}{2^2} = frac 64 = frac 32$.
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Perfect, this is the explanation I was looking for. So now after a few steps, I'll get ln(3/2) = ln(3) - ln(2).
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$a^{-k} = frac 1{a^k}$ by definition.
So $bigg(frac{2}{sqrt{6}}bigg)^{-2} =frac 1{bigg(frac{2}{sqrt{6}}bigg)^{2}}=$
$frac 1{bigg(frac {2^2}{sqrt 6^2}bigg)}=frac {sqrt 6^2}{2^2}=frac 64=frac 32$
It will help to realize that $(frac ab)^{-1} = frac 1{(frac ab)} = frac ba$ and that $(frac ab)^k = frac {a^k}{b^k}$ to realize that that means $(frac ab)^{-k} = frac 1{(frac ab)^k}= frac 1{(frac {a^k}{b^k})} = frac {b^k}{a^k}$.
(Also $(frac ab)^{-k} = [(frac ab)^{-1}]^k = (frac ba)^k=frac {b^k}{a^k}$ or that $(frac ab)^{-k} = frac {a^{-k}}{b^{-k}} = frac {(frac 1{a^k})}{(frac 1{b^k})} = frac {b^k}{a^k}$.)
In any event
$(frac {2}{sqrt 6})^{-2} = (frac {sqrt 6}{ 2})^2 = frac {sqrt 6^2}{2^2} = frac 64 = frac 32$.
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$a^{-k} = frac 1{a^k}$ by definition.
So $bigg(frac{2}{sqrt{6}}bigg)^{-2} =frac 1{bigg(frac{2}{sqrt{6}}bigg)^{2}}=$
$frac 1{bigg(frac {2^2}{sqrt 6^2}bigg)}=frac {sqrt 6^2}{2^2}=frac 64=frac 32$
It will help to realize that $(frac ab)^{-1} = frac 1{(frac ab)} = frac ba$ and that $(frac ab)^k = frac {a^k}{b^k}$ to realize that that means $(frac ab)^{-k} = frac 1{(frac ab)^k}= frac 1{(frac {a^k}{b^k})} = frac {b^k}{a^k}$.
(Also $(frac ab)^{-k} = [(frac ab)^{-1}]^k = (frac ba)^k=frac {b^k}{a^k}$ or that $(frac ab)^{-k} = frac {a^{-k}}{b^{-k}} = frac {(frac 1{a^k})}{(frac 1{b^k})} = frac {b^k}{a^k}$.)
In any event
$(frac {2}{sqrt 6})^{-2} = (frac {sqrt 6}{ 2})^2 = frac {sqrt 6^2}{2^2} = frac 64 = frac 32$.
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Perfect, this is the explanation I was looking for. So now after a few steps, I'll get ln(3/2) = ln(3) - ln(2).
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Perfect, this is the explanation I was looking for. So now after a few steps, I'll get ln(3/2) = ln(3) - ln(2).
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– Miguel Aragon
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Perfect, this is the explanation I was looking for. So now after a few steps, I'll get ln(3/2) = ln(3) - ln(2).
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– Miguel Aragon
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Perfect, this is the explanation I was looking for. So now after a few steps, I'll get ln(3/2) = ln(3) - ln(2).
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$$begin{align}
-2ln left( frac{2}{sqrt 6} right) &= -2big( ln(2)-ln(sqrt{6}) big) \
&= -2ln(2)+2ln(6^{1/2}) \
&= -2ln(2)+ln(2cdot 3) \
&=-2ln(2)+ big( ln(2)+ln(3)big) \
&=ln(3)-ln(2)
end{align}$$
And for your specific question, remember that
$$left( frac{a}{b} right)^{-n}=left( frac{b}{a} right)^n$$
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$$begin{align}
-2ln left( frac{2}{sqrt 6} right) &= -2big( ln(2)-ln(sqrt{6}) big) \
&= -2ln(2)+2ln(6^{1/2}) \
&= -2ln(2)+ln(2cdot 3) \
&=-2ln(2)+ big( ln(2)+ln(3)big) \
&=ln(3)-ln(2)
end{align}$$
And for your specific question, remember that
$$left( frac{a}{b} right)^{-n}=left( frac{b}{a} right)^n$$
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$$begin{align}
-2ln left( frac{2}{sqrt 6} right) &= -2big( ln(2)-ln(sqrt{6}) big) \
&= -2ln(2)+2ln(6^{1/2}) \
&= -2ln(2)+ln(2cdot 3) \
&=-2ln(2)+ big( ln(2)+ln(3)big) \
&=ln(3)-ln(2)
end{align}$$
And for your specific question, remember that
$$left( frac{a}{b} right)^{-n}=left( frac{b}{a} right)^n$$
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$$begin{align}
-2ln left( frac{2}{sqrt 6} right) &= -2big( ln(2)-ln(sqrt{6}) big) \
&= -2ln(2)+2ln(6^{1/2}) \
&= -2ln(2)+ln(2cdot 3) \
&=-2ln(2)+ big( ln(2)+ln(3)big) \
&=ln(3)-ln(2)
end{align}$$
And for your specific question, remember that
$$left( frac{a}{b} right)^{-n}=left( frac{b}{a} right)^n$$
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Using your first step,
$-2 ln(frac{2}{sqrt{6}}) = ln(frac{2}{sqrt{6}})^{-2} = ln frac{1}{(frac{2}{sqrt{6}})^{2}} = ln frac{6}{4} = lnfrac{3}{2} = ln 3 - ln 2$
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Using your first step,
$-2 ln(frac{2}{sqrt{6}}) = ln(frac{2}{sqrt{6}})^{-2} = ln frac{1}{(frac{2}{sqrt{6}})^{2}} = ln frac{6}{4} = lnfrac{3}{2} = ln 3 - ln 2$
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Using your first step,
$-2 ln(frac{2}{sqrt{6}}) = ln(frac{2}{sqrt{6}})^{-2} = ln frac{1}{(frac{2}{sqrt{6}})^{2}} = ln frac{6}{4} = lnfrac{3}{2} = ln 3 - ln 2$
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Using your first step,
$-2 ln(frac{2}{sqrt{6}}) = ln(frac{2}{sqrt{6}})^{-2} = ln frac{1}{(frac{2}{sqrt{6}})^{2}} = ln frac{6}{4} = lnfrac{3}{2} = ln 3 - ln 2$
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Well you may start by distributing the index since $2$ and $sqrt 6$ are positive. Thus $$left(frac{2}{sqrt{6}}right)^{-2}=frac{2^{-2}}{{sqrt 6}^{-2}}.$$
Then recall that for any nonzero number $a$ and any negative integer $-n,$ we have $$a^{-n}=frac {1}{a^n}.$$ Applying this to your expression, we have $$frac{2^{-2}}{{sqrt 6}^{-2}}=frac{frac {1}{2^2}}{frac{1}{{sqrt 6}^2}}=frac{frac {1}{4}}{frac{1}{6}}=frac{6}{4}=frac 32.$$
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Well you may start by distributing the index since $2$ and $sqrt 6$ are positive. Thus $$left(frac{2}{sqrt{6}}right)^{-2}=frac{2^{-2}}{{sqrt 6}^{-2}}.$$
Then recall that for any nonzero number $a$ and any negative integer $-n,$ we have $$a^{-n}=frac {1}{a^n}.$$ Applying this to your expression, we have $$frac{2^{-2}}{{sqrt 6}^{-2}}=frac{frac {1}{2^2}}{frac{1}{{sqrt 6}^2}}=frac{frac {1}{4}}{frac{1}{6}}=frac{6}{4}=frac 32.$$
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Well you may start by distributing the index since $2$ and $sqrt 6$ are positive. Thus $$left(frac{2}{sqrt{6}}right)^{-2}=frac{2^{-2}}{{sqrt 6}^{-2}}.$$
Then recall that for any nonzero number $a$ and any negative integer $-n,$ we have $$a^{-n}=frac {1}{a^n}.$$ Applying this to your expression, we have $$frac{2^{-2}}{{sqrt 6}^{-2}}=frac{frac {1}{2^2}}{frac{1}{{sqrt 6}^2}}=frac{frac {1}{4}}{frac{1}{6}}=frac{6}{4}=frac 32.$$
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Well you may start by distributing the index since $2$ and $sqrt 6$ are positive. Thus $$left(frac{2}{sqrt{6}}right)^{-2}=frac{2^{-2}}{{sqrt 6}^{-2}}.$$
Then recall that for any nonzero number $a$ and any negative integer $-n,$ we have $$a^{-n}=frac {1}{a^n}.$$ Applying this to your expression, we have $$frac{2^{-2}}{{sqrt 6}^{-2}}=frac{frac {1}{2^2}}{frac{1}{{sqrt 6}^2}}=frac{frac {1}{4}}{frac{1}{6}}=frac{6}{4}=frac 32.$$
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$$ -2 ln left( frac{2}{sqrt{6}} right) = ln 3 - ln 2$$
if and only if
$$ ln left( frac{2}{sqrt{6}} right)^{-2} = ln left( frac{3}{2}right) $$
if and only if
$$ ln left[ frac{1}{left(frac{2}{sqrt{6}}right)^{2}} right] = ln left( frac{3}{2}right)$$
And so, we have
$$ ln left( frac{6}{4} right) = ln left( frac{3}{2}right)$$
which is true.
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you started by assuming the statement to be proven, so in reality you haven't shown anything. You need to run the argument in reverse
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One way to prove something is to take the LHS = RHS and proceed with a series of iff statements until something obvious is obtained. I neglected to include them initially.
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$4 = 10 implies 7-3 =7+3 implies-3= 3 implies (-3)^2 = 3^2 implies 9=9$ which is true. Therefore $4 = 10$. Or if penguins were elephants then they would both eat food. Which is true. So penguins are elephants.
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"One way to prove something is to take the LHS = RHS and proceed with a series of iff statements until something obvious is obtained." But if you do that you MUST specify the steps are actually if and only if steps. If you do not SPECIFICALLY state that it is reasonable to assume they are only forward implications and the proof is not valid.
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8 hours ago
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Your first comment is not if and only if; and neither is you second. Forward implications is one-way; necessary and sufficient (i.e., if and only if are both ways). In the case of this problem, start from the given equation and work it to where I finished. Any problem with that. Now, if you want to do the work, start w/ the last statement and by a series of implications, show it implies the initial equation. I chose iff and only if instead.
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– mlchristians
8 hours ago
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$$ -2 ln left( frac{2}{sqrt{6}} right) = ln 3 - ln 2$$
if and only if
$$ ln left( frac{2}{sqrt{6}} right)^{-2} = ln left( frac{3}{2}right) $$
if and only if
$$ ln left[ frac{1}{left(frac{2}{sqrt{6}}right)^{2}} right] = ln left( frac{3}{2}right)$$
And so, we have
$$ ln left( frac{6}{4} right) = ln left( frac{3}{2}right)$$
which is true.
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you started by assuming the statement to be proven, so in reality you haven't shown anything. You need to run the argument in reverse
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– peek-a-boo
9 hours ago
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One way to prove something is to take the LHS = RHS and proceed with a series of iff statements until something obvious is obtained. I neglected to include them initially.
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– mlchristians
8 hours ago
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$4 = 10 implies 7-3 =7+3 implies-3= 3 implies (-3)^2 = 3^2 implies 9=9$ which is true. Therefore $4 = 10$. Or if penguins were elephants then they would both eat food. Which is true. So penguins are elephants.
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– fleablood
8 hours ago
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"One way to prove something is to take the LHS = RHS and proceed with a series of iff statements until something obvious is obtained." But if you do that you MUST specify the steps are actually if and only if steps. If you do not SPECIFICALLY state that it is reasonable to assume they are only forward implications and the proof is not valid.
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– fleablood
8 hours ago
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Your first comment is not if and only if; and neither is you second. Forward implications is one-way; necessary and sufficient (i.e., if and only if are both ways). In the case of this problem, start from the given equation and work it to where I finished. Any problem with that. Now, if you want to do the work, start w/ the last statement and by a series of implications, show it implies the initial equation. I chose iff and only if instead.
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– mlchristians
8 hours ago
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$$ -2 ln left( frac{2}{sqrt{6}} right) = ln 3 - ln 2$$
if and only if
$$ ln left( frac{2}{sqrt{6}} right)^{-2} = ln left( frac{3}{2}right) $$
if and only if
$$ ln left[ frac{1}{left(frac{2}{sqrt{6}}right)^{2}} right] = ln left( frac{3}{2}right)$$
And so, we have
$$ ln left( frac{6}{4} right) = ln left( frac{3}{2}right)$$
which is true.
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$$ -2 ln left( frac{2}{sqrt{6}} right) = ln 3 - ln 2$$
if and only if
$$ ln left( frac{2}{sqrt{6}} right)^{-2} = ln left( frac{3}{2}right) $$
if and only if
$$ ln left[ frac{1}{left(frac{2}{sqrt{6}}right)^{2}} right] = ln left( frac{3}{2}right)$$
And so, we have
$$ ln left( frac{6}{4} right) = ln left( frac{3}{2}right)$$
which is true.
edited 8 hours ago
answered 9 hours ago
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you started by assuming the statement to be proven, so in reality you haven't shown anything. You need to run the argument in reverse
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– peek-a-boo
9 hours ago
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One way to prove something is to take the LHS = RHS and proceed with a series of iff statements until something obvious is obtained. I neglected to include them initially.
$endgroup$
– mlchristians
8 hours ago
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$4 = 10 implies 7-3 =7+3 implies-3= 3 implies (-3)^2 = 3^2 implies 9=9$ which is true. Therefore $4 = 10$. Or if penguins were elephants then they would both eat food. Which is true. So penguins are elephants.
$endgroup$
– fleablood
8 hours ago
1
$begingroup$
"One way to prove something is to take the LHS = RHS and proceed with a series of iff statements until something obvious is obtained." But if you do that you MUST specify the steps are actually if and only if steps. If you do not SPECIFICALLY state that it is reasonable to assume they are only forward implications and the proof is not valid.
$endgroup$
– fleablood
8 hours ago
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Your first comment is not if and only if; and neither is you second. Forward implications is one-way; necessary and sufficient (i.e., if and only if are both ways). In the case of this problem, start from the given equation and work it to where I finished. Any problem with that. Now, if you want to do the work, start w/ the last statement and by a series of implications, show it implies the initial equation. I chose iff and only if instead.
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– mlchristians
8 hours ago
add a comment |
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you started by assuming the statement to be proven, so in reality you haven't shown anything. You need to run the argument in reverse
$endgroup$
– peek-a-boo
9 hours ago
$begingroup$
One way to prove something is to take the LHS = RHS and proceed with a series of iff statements until something obvious is obtained. I neglected to include them initially.
$endgroup$
– mlchristians
8 hours ago
$begingroup$
$4 = 10 implies 7-3 =7+3 implies-3= 3 implies (-3)^2 = 3^2 implies 9=9$ which is true. Therefore $4 = 10$. Or if penguins were elephants then they would both eat food. Which is true. So penguins are elephants.
$endgroup$
– fleablood
8 hours ago
1
$begingroup$
"One way to prove something is to take the LHS = RHS and proceed with a series of iff statements until something obvious is obtained." But if you do that you MUST specify the steps are actually if and only if steps. If you do not SPECIFICALLY state that it is reasonable to assume they are only forward implications and the proof is not valid.
$endgroup$
– fleablood
8 hours ago
$begingroup$
Your first comment is not if and only if; and neither is you second. Forward implications is one-way; necessary and sufficient (i.e., if and only if are both ways). In the case of this problem, start from the given equation and work it to where I finished. Any problem with that. Now, if you want to do the work, start w/ the last statement and by a series of implications, show it implies the initial equation. I chose iff and only if instead.
$endgroup$
– mlchristians
8 hours ago
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you started by assuming the statement to be proven, so in reality you haven't shown anything. You need to run the argument in reverse
$endgroup$
– peek-a-boo
9 hours ago
$begingroup$
you started by assuming the statement to be proven, so in reality you haven't shown anything. You need to run the argument in reverse
$endgroup$
– peek-a-boo
9 hours ago
$begingroup$
One way to prove something is to take the LHS = RHS and proceed with a series of iff statements until something obvious is obtained. I neglected to include them initially.
$endgroup$
– mlchristians
8 hours ago
$begingroup$
One way to prove something is to take the LHS = RHS and proceed with a series of iff statements until something obvious is obtained. I neglected to include them initially.
$endgroup$
– mlchristians
8 hours ago
$begingroup$
$4 = 10 implies 7-3 =7+3 implies-3= 3 implies (-3)^2 = 3^2 implies 9=9$ which is true. Therefore $4 = 10$. Or if penguins were elephants then they would both eat food. Which is true. So penguins are elephants.
$endgroup$
– fleablood
8 hours ago
$begingroup$
$4 = 10 implies 7-3 =7+3 implies-3= 3 implies (-3)^2 = 3^2 implies 9=9$ which is true. Therefore $4 = 10$. Or if penguins were elephants then they would both eat food. Which is true. So penguins are elephants.
$endgroup$
– fleablood
8 hours ago
1
1
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"One way to prove something is to take the LHS = RHS and proceed with a series of iff statements until something obvious is obtained." But if you do that you MUST specify the steps are actually if and only if steps. If you do not SPECIFICALLY state that it is reasonable to assume they are only forward implications and the proof is not valid.
$endgroup$
– fleablood
8 hours ago
$begingroup$
"One way to prove something is to take the LHS = RHS and proceed with a series of iff statements until something obvious is obtained." But if you do that you MUST specify the steps are actually if and only if steps. If you do not SPECIFICALLY state that it is reasonable to assume they are only forward implications and the proof is not valid.
$endgroup$
– fleablood
8 hours ago
$begingroup$
Your first comment is not if and only if; and neither is you second. Forward implications is one-way; necessary and sufficient (i.e., if and only if are both ways). In the case of this problem, start from the given equation and work it to where I finished. Any problem with that. Now, if you want to do the work, start w/ the last statement and by a series of implications, show it implies the initial equation. I chose iff and only if instead.
$endgroup$
– mlchristians
8 hours ago
$begingroup$
Your first comment is not if and only if; and neither is you second. Forward implications is one-way; necessary and sufficient (i.e., if and only if are both ways). In the case of this problem, start from the given equation and work it to where I finished. Any problem with that. Now, if you want to do the work, start w/ the last statement and by a series of implications, show it implies the initial equation. I chose iff and only if instead.
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– mlchristians
8 hours ago
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Note that $x^{-a} = frac{1}{x^a}$
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– desiigner
9 hours ago
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I've edited your title, as you had it backwards.
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– Acccumulation
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