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What does it mean to have a subnet mask /32?


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I see in this question, the routing table has:



192.168.1.1/32     link#4             UCS             2        0     en0
openwrt.lan 46:94:fc:63:fc:7 UHLWIir 11 3610 en0 1200
192.168.1.125/32 link#4 UCS 2 0 en0


What does it mean to have a subnet mask of /32 and in that case what will be its network ID? Can a host exist without a network ID in case we consider the above as a single host?



As far as I know, the network ID and IP address assigned to a host in that network are 2 different things. 192.168.0.0 is a network ID and if its subnet is 255.255.255.0, then the hosts in this network can be 192.168.0.1 - 192.168.0.254. In this case how a host can exist without a network ID?



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    I see in this question, the routing table has:



    192.168.1.1/32     link#4             UCS             2        0     en0
    openwrt.lan 46:94:fc:63:fc:7 UHLWIir 11 3610 en0 1200
    192.168.1.125/32 link#4 UCS 2 0 en0


    What does it mean to have a subnet mask of /32 and in that case what will be its network ID? Can a host exist without a network ID in case we consider the above as a single host?



    As far as I know, the network ID and IP address assigned to a host in that network are 2 different things. 192.168.0.0 is a network ID and if its subnet is 255.255.255.0, then the hosts in this network can be 192.168.0.1 - 192.168.0.254. In this case how a host can exist without a network ID?



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      I see in this question, the routing table has:



      192.168.1.1/32     link#4             UCS             2        0     en0
      openwrt.lan 46:94:fc:63:fc:7 UHLWIir 11 3610 en0 1200
      192.168.1.125/32 link#4 UCS 2 0 en0


      What does it mean to have a subnet mask of /32 and in that case what will be its network ID? Can a host exist without a network ID in case we consider the above as a single host?



      As far as I know, the network ID and IP address assigned to a host in that network are 2 different things. 192.168.0.0 is a network ID and if its subnet is 255.255.255.0, then the hosts in this network can be 192.168.0.1 - 192.168.0.254. In this case how a host can exist without a network ID?



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      I see in this question, the routing table has:



      192.168.1.1/32     link#4             UCS             2        0     en0
      openwrt.lan 46:94:fc:63:fc:7 UHLWIir 11 3610 en0 1200
      192.168.1.125/32 link#4 UCS 2 0 en0


      What does it mean to have a subnet mask of /32 and in that case what will be its network ID? Can a host exist without a network ID in case we consider the above as a single host?



      As far as I know, the network ID and IP address assigned to a host in that network are 2 different things. 192.168.0.0 is a network ID and if its subnet is 255.255.255.0, then the hosts in this network can be 192.168.0.1 - 192.168.0.254. In this case how a host can exist without a network ID?



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          There's a bit of confusion here; that /32 doesn't refer to the size of any (sub)network, but to the range of addresses that particular routing table entry applies to. Usually the two are the same (because you route a network or subnet as a unit, right?), but macOS does things a little different for other hosts on the same local network. Let me add some lines before the ones you quoted:



          Destination        Gateway            Flags        Refs      Use   Netif Expire
          default openwrt.lan UGSc 10 0 en0
          ...
          192.168.1 link#4 UCS 2 0 en0
          192.168.1.1/32 link#4 UCS 2 0 en0
          openwrt.lan 46:94:fc:63:fc:7 UHLWIir 11 3610 en0 1200
          192.168.1.125/32 link#4 UCS 2 0 en0


          Note that 192.168.1 (short for 192.168.1.0/24) is routed over en0 (aka link#4); not via any gateway, just over the interface itself. This is the network that the Mac itself is on. 192.168.1.1 and 192.168.1.125 are both specific addresses within that network range. If you compare those /32 entries with the 192.168.1 entry, they're basically redundant duplicates; they say the same thing, just about specific addresses instead of the entire network range.



          I don't know why macOS creates these redundant address-specific entries, but it's probably related to another thing you can see in the listing above: macOS lists its ARP table entries in the routing table. The "openwrt.lan" entry above (which I'm pretty sure is actually 192.168.1.1, just listed by name rather than number) says that it's routed via en0 to the MAC address 46:94:fc:63:fc:7.



          So what you're seeing in the route listing is a mix of actual network routes (like the "default" and 192.168.1 entries), and per-host entries (the /32 and MAC-targeted entries).






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          • How did you deduce 192.16.1 short for 192.16.1.0 /24 ? (Also, I think you meant 192.168.1.0)

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            @BreakingBenjamin netstat sometimes uses a shorthand where it just lists the network portion of the address (omitting the host portion); in "192.16.1" three octets are listed, indicating 8 octets = 24 bits of network portion. If you look at the full output in the original question, you'll also see entries for "224.0.0" (short for 224.0.0.0/24, the multicast local control block), "169.254" (169.254.0.0/16, dynamic link-local addresses), and "127" (127.0.0.0/8, local loopback).

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          • @BreakingBenjamin in other words, any trailing ".0"s are removed from addresses to display a number with less than three dots. The user is supposed to know to add them back when they're needed.

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          /32 addressing



          Generally speaking, /32 means that the network has only a single IPv4 address and all traffic will go directly between the device with that IPv4 address and the default gateway. The device would not be able to communicate with other devices on the network.



          There are a couple of possible reasons for this that I've seen. It could be:




          • A webserver serving multiple sites with each site bound to a specific IPv4 address

          • A loopback address used for testing.

          • Isolating a machine from the network to allow only statically set routes to connect. (For decommissioning, for example.)


          Network ID



          The network ID portion of an IP address is determined by the subnet mask. For example:




          • A /24 IPv4 network has a subnet mask of 1111.1111.1111.0000, meaning the first 3 octets are the network ID and the last octet is used for assigning host IDs (256 available IDs, though usually some are reserved).

          • A /16 IPv4 network has a subnet mask of 1111.1111.0000.0000, meaning the first 2 octets are the network ID and the last octet is used for assigning host IDs (65536 available IDs, though usually some are reserved).


          In the case of /32, this doesn't apply as the address is both a network ID and host ID. /31 addresses are also all host IDs with no reserved 0th address.






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          • But this network cannot exist as it won't have then network id ? The only id , as you said , gets assigned to host ?

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          • More accurately, this would have only a network ID and no host ID. In the case of a loopback address, you have no need for host IDs as there is only one.

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          • A web server runs on a machine which have an ip address. Inside web server , we host sites. so how can anyone host a site by such /32 addressing because that ip belongs to the machine and not to the site ? If we say a site have ip /32 , we are actually saying that the machine have /32 addressing and in such a case how is that machine connected to network ?

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            /31 and /32 are exceptions to the general rule; all addresses within them are host IDs. (They still have a network ID, but it's simultaneously a host ID too.)

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            To clarify, a /31 still has only one "network ID" (like in all other cases) – it just has two hosts and no reserved/unusable addresses.

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          It is just CIDR value. You can learn more in here for CIDR.



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          A CIDR network address looks like this under IPv4:



          192.30.250.00/18



          The "192.30.250.0" is the network address itself and the "18" says
          that the first 18 bits are the network part of the address, leaving
          the last 14 bits for specific host addresses.
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            easiest thing is web search and read articles related to subnet mask and subnet mask binary shorthand and CIDR



            and also check out subnet calculators



            the /32 is the CIDR (shorthand) and refers to how many 1's are in the subnet mask. For /32 that is 255.255.255.255 or 11111111.11111111.11111111.1111111



            that means you can only have one ip address, on your network before needing a gateway/router to get outside that network. with /32 it's just you.
            A subnet mask is a number that defines a range of IP addresses available within a network



            CIDR = classless inter-domain routing



            what does using /32 mean : I don't believe it is an invalid setting however it effectively turns off networking... or limits the network to just you... you can only talk to yourself if you don't have a gateway set up to reach outside that netmask.



            what will its network id be: I assume you mean what will ip address be, and ip address will be whatever you set it to be. The IP address and subnet mask (which is what you are dealing with) are two different although related things.



            can a host exist without a network id [ip address?] : can you exist without having a first and last name or without an address? yes the host can exist. kinda need to better define what u mean by exist.






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            • "network ID" usually refers to the address with all 'host' bits zeroed out – i.e. one of the two "reserved" addresses in a subnet. It's not the host's address.

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            • @ron As far as I know , network id and ip address assigned to host in that network are 2 different things. Like 192.168.0.0 is a network id and if its subnet be 255.255.255.0 , then host in this network can be 192.168.0.1 - 192.168.0.254 . hence I asked in this case how a host can exist without a network id ?

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            • I think it's a matter of symantics and can get hard to discuss typing out like this. strictly speaking if you say host then you imply or require a valid identifier (id) which is what? Not necessarily a hostname because their can be two systems having the same host name on a network. In most cases the unique identifier should be the network hardware MAC address.. which is never supposed to duplicate between billions of computer devices today? And old school nomenclature i think is host vs terminal, so without a valid network interface your system becomes a terminal and not a host.

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            • and then as a terminal would not be reachable on the network, only hosts with properly configured network interfaces can communicate on the network(s). however with /32 netmask and a properly configured network interface (including gateway) then yes you can be a host on the network and exist. but with /32 on a host having ip 10.1.2.3 it will not communicate to something right next to it at 10.1.2.4 which u would take for granted usually because 10.1.2.3 and 10.1.2.4 would be separate networks and require a gateway/router to make the connection between those two networks.

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            • correction: network hardware mac address is unique on your local network as defined by the subnet mask.

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            What you're looking at are not subnet masks. They are indications
            of the length of the routing table¹ prefixes.



            A naïve implementation of a routing table would list every possible IP
            address so that, given any IP address, you'd look up that exact one
            and get back the routing information² associated with it.



            Clearly some sort of compression is needed. The nature of routing
            information is that adjacent addresses are likely to use the same
            information, so we can use a form of radix tree to compress these
            together. Here, briefly, is how it works.



            Given the numbers 0-7, we can represent them in binary as so:



            0   000
            1 001
            2 010
            3 011
            4 100
            5 101
            6 110
            7 111


            Now if we have two routing table entries, one for addresses 0 and 1,
            and another for addreses 2 and 3, we can store them under the binary
            prefixes that these share. If we use a . to indicate the "unused"
            bit after the end of the prefix, we have 00. for the range 0-1 and
            01. for the range 2-3.



            A standard way of representing this is with the lowest number from the
            range followed by the length of the prefix; in this case these would
            be 0/2 for the range 0-1 and 2/2 for the range 2-3.



            But what happens if we want to look up the routing information for
            address 6? Normally we'd add a "default" set of routing information
            with prefix 0/0, i.e., matching any bits at all and then when we
            search we look for the most specific information i.e, the longest
            matching prefix, we can find. So the full routing table we've just
            described is:



            0/2     00.     Matches addresses 1 and 2.
            2/2 01. Matches addresses 3 and 4.
            0/0 ... Matches any address.


            Subnet masks can be described with prefixes in the same way, and so
            this scheme is often used for that. But keep in mind that just because
            this scheme can be used for describing subnets does not mean that
            it's used only for describing subnets.



            As an example of routing table prefixes not being subnets, you could
            have two network interfaces connected to the same network, say,
            192.168.2.0/24. (This could be implemented by connecting two separate
            network cards to the same switch, each with its own cable.) You could
            then set up the routing table to "balance" outgoing traffic across the
            two interfaces by using two routing table entries:



            192.168.2.0/25      eth0        # range ...2.0   to ...2.127
            192.168.2.128/25 eth1 # range ...2.128 to ...2.255


            This would send packets destined to addresses 0-127 on that network
            out eth0, but packets destined to addresses 128-255 on that network
            out eth1. This is a bad way of doing this (for reasons I won't get
            into here), but demonstrates how routing prefixes and network
            addresses might not match.





            ¹ The Wikipedia article on routing tables unfortunately says
            that the prefix field holds the "Network ID." While this may be true
            in certain specific implementations of routing tables, it's not
            always a network ID in the general case, as seen in both the example
            you provide and my example later in this answer.



            ² This routing information typically includes things like what
            interface to use, what router to contact on that interface, if any,
            the MAC address of a host for hosts directly reachable through that
            interface, what source address we should put on the packet if the
            host has multiple source addresses, security information, and so on.
            There's a huge variety of data that could be there, but none of that
            is important for the purposes of this discussion since we're talking
            just about how you look up the correct data set for a given address,
            not what's in the data set itself.






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              There's a bit of confusion here; that /32 doesn't refer to the size of any (sub)network, but to the range of addresses that particular routing table entry applies to. Usually the two are the same (because you route a network or subnet as a unit, right?), but macOS does things a little different for other hosts on the same local network. Let me add some lines before the ones you quoted:



              Destination        Gateway            Flags        Refs      Use   Netif Expire
              default openwrt.lan UGSc 10 0 en0
              ...
              192.168.1 link#4 UCS 2 0 en0
              192.168.1.1/32 link#4 UCS 2 0 en0
              openwrt.lan 46:94:fc:63:fc:7 UHLWIir 11 3610 en0 1200
              192.168.1.125/32 link#4 UCS 2 0 en0


              Note that 192.168.1 (short for 192.168.1.0/24) is routed over en0 (aka link#4); not via any gateway, just over the interface itself. This is the network that the Mac itself is on. 192.168.1.1 and 192.168.1.125 are both specific addresses within that network range. If you compare those /32 entries with the 192.168.1 entry, they're basically redundant duplicates; they say the same thing, just about specific addresses instead of the entire network range.



              I don't know why macOS creates these redundant address-specific entries, but it's probably related to another thing you can see in the listing above: macOS lists its ARP table entries in the routing table. The "openwrt.lan" entry above (which I'm pretty sure is actually 192.168.1.1, just listed by name rather than number) says that it's routed via en0 to the MAC address 46:94:fc:63:fc:7.



              So what you're seeing in the route listing is a mix of actual network routes (like the "default" and 192.168.1 entries), and per-host entries (the /32 and MAC-targeted entries).






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                @BreakingBenjamin netstat sometimes uses a shorthand where it just lists the network portion of the address (omitting the host portion); in "192.16.1" three octets are listed, indicating 8 octets = 24 bits of network portion. If you look at the full output in the original question, you'll also see entries for "224.0.0" (short for 224.0.0.0/24, the multicast local control block), "169.254" (169.254.0.0/16, dynamic link-local addresses), and "127" (127.0.0.0/8, local loopback).

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              There's a bit of confusion here; that /32 doesn't refer to the size of any (sub)network, but to the range of addresses that particular routing table entry applies to. Usually the two are the same (because you route a network or subnet as a unit, right?), but macOS does things a little different for other hosts on the same local network. Let me add some lines before the ones you quoted:



              Destination        Gateway            Flags        Refs      Use   Netif Expire
              default openwrt.lan UGSc 10 0 en0
              ...
              192.168.1 link#4 UCS 2 0 en0
              192.168.1.1/32 link#4 UCS 2 0 en0
              openwrt.lan 46:94:fc:63:fc:7 UHLWIir 11 3610 en0 1200
              192.168.1.125/32 link#4 UCS 2 0 en0


              Note that 192.168.1 (short for 192.168.1.0/24) is routed over en0 (aka link#4); not via any gateway, just over the interface itself. This is the network that the Mac itself is on. 192.168.1.1 and 192.168.1.125 are both specific addresses within that network range. If you compare those /32 entries with the 192.168.1 entry, they're basically redundant duplicates; they say the same thing, just about specific addresses instead of the entire network range.



              I don't know why macOS creates these redundant address-specific entries, but it's probably related to another thing you can see in the listing above: macOS lists its ARP table entries in the routing table. The "openwrt.lan" entry above (which I'm pretty sure is actually 192.168.1.1, just listed by name rather than number) says that it's routed via en0 to the MAC address 46:94:fc:63:fc:7.



              So what you're seeing in the route listing is a mix of actual network routes (like the "default" and 192.168.1 entries), and per-host entries (the /32 and MAC-targeted entries).






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                @BreakingBenjamin netstat sometimes uses a shorthand where it just lists the network portion of the address (omitting the host portion); in "192.16.1" three octets are listed, indicating 8 octets = 24 bits of network portion. If you look at the full output in the original question, you'll also see entries for "224.0.0" (short for 224.0.0.0/24, the multicast local control block), "169.254" (169.254.0.0/16, dynamic link-local addresses), and "127" (127.0.0.0/8, local loopback).

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              • @BreakingBenjamin in other words, any trailing ".0"s are removed from addresses to display a number with less than three dots. The user is supposed to know to add them back when they're needed.

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              There's a bit of confusion here; that /32 doesn't refer to the size of any (sub)network, but to the range of addresses that particular routing table entry applies to. Usually the two are the same (because you route a network or subnet as a unit, right?), but macOS does things a little different for other hosts on the same local network. Let me add some lines before the ones you quoted:



              Destination        Gateway            Flags        Refs      Use   Netif Expire
              default openwrt.lan UGSc 10 0 en0
              ...
              192.168.1 link#4 UCS 2 0 en0
              192.168.1.1/32 link#4 UCS 2 0 en0
              openwrt.lan 46:94:fc:63:fc:7 UHLWIir 11 3610 en0 1200
              192.168.1.125/32 link#4 UCS 2 0 en0


              Note that 192.168.1 (short for 192.168.1.0/24) is routed over en0 (aka link#4); not via any gateway, just over the interface itself. This is the network that the Mac itself is on. 192.168.1.1 and 192.168.1.125 are both specific addresses within that network range. If you compare those /32 entries with the 192.168.1 entry, they're basically redundant duplicates; they say the same thing, just about specific addresses instead of the entire network range.



              I don't know why macOS creates these redundant address-specific entries, but it's probably related to another thing you can see in the listing above: macOS lists its ARP table entries in the routing table. The "openwrt.lan" entry above (which I'm pretty sure is actually 192.168.1.1, just listed by name rather than number) says that it's routed via en0 to the MAC address 46:94:fc:63:fc:7.



              So what you're seeing in the route listing is a mix of actual network routes (like the "default" and 192.168.1 entries), and per-host entries (the /32 and MAC-targeted entries).






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              There's a bit of confusion here; that /32 doesn't refer to the size of any (sub)network, but to the range of addresses that particular routing table entry applies to. Usually the two are the same (because you route a network or subnet as a unit, right?), but macOS does things a little different for other hosts on the same local network. Let me add some lines before the ones you quoted:



              Destination        Gateway            Flags        Refs      Use   Netif Expire
              default openwrt.lan UGSc 10 0 en0
              ...
              192.168.1 link#4 UCS 2 0 en0
              192.168.1.1/32 link#4 UCS 2 0 en0
              openwrt.lan 46:94:fc:63:fc:7 UHLWIir 11 3610 en0 1200
              192.168.1.125/32 link#4 UCS 2 0 en0


              Note that 192.168.1 (short for 192.168.1.0/24) is routed over en0 (aka link#4); not via any gateway, just over the interface itself. This is the network that the Mac itself is on. 192.168.1.1 and 192.168.1.125 are both specific addresses within that network range. If you compare those /32 entries with the 192.168.1 entry, they're basically redundant duplicates; they say the same thing, just about specific addresses instead of the entire network range.



              I don't know why macOS creates these redundant address-specific entries, but it's probably related to another thing you can see in the listing above: macOS lists its ARP table entries in the routing table. The "openwrt.lan" entry above (which I'm pretty sure is actually 192.168.1.1, just listed by name rather than number) says that it's routed via en0 to the MAC address 46:94:fc:63:fc:7.



              So what you're seeing in the route listing is a mix of actual network routes (like the "default" and 192.168.1 entries), and per-host entries (the /32 and MAC-targeted entries).







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              • How did you deduce 192.16.1 short for 192.16.1.0 /24 ? (Also, I think you meant 192.168.1.0)

                – Breaking Benjamin
                yesterday






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                @BreakingBenjamin netstat sometimes uses a shorthand where it just lists the network portion of the address (omitting the host portion); in "192.16.1" three octets are listed, indicating 8 octets = 24 bits of network portion. If you look at the full output in the original question, you'll also see entries for "224.0.0" (short for 224.0.0.0/24, the multicast local control block), "169.254" (169.254.0.0/16, dynamic link-local addresses), and "127" (127.0.0.0/8, local loopback).

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              • @BreakingBenjamin in other words, any trailing ".0"s are removed from addresses to display a number with less than three dots. The user is supposed to know to add them back when they're needed.

                – Monty Harder
                13 hours ago



















              • How did you deduce 192.16.1 short for 192.16.1.0 /24 ? (Also, I think you meant 192.168.1.0)

                – Breaking Benjamin
                yesterday






              • 1





                @BreakingBenjamin netstat sometimes uses a shorthand where it just lists the network portion of the address (omitting the host portion); in "192.16.1" three octets are listed, indicating 8 octets = 24 bits of network portion. If you look at the full output in the original question, you'll also see entries for "224.0.0" (short for 224.0.0.0/24, the multicast local control block), "169.254" (169.254.0.0/16, dynamic link-local addresses), and "127" (127.0.0.0/8, local loopback).

                – Gordon Davisson
                yesterday











              • @BreakingBenjamin in other words, any trailing ".0"s are removed from addresses to display a number with less than three dots. The user is supposed to know to add them back when they're needed.

                – Monty Harder
                13 hours ago

















              How did you deduce 192.16.1 short for 192.16.1.0 /24 ? (Also, I think you meant 192.168.1.0)

              – Breaking Benjamin
              yesterday





              How did you deduce 192.16.1 short for 192.16.1.0 /24 ? (Also, I think you meant 192.168.1.0)

              – Breaking Benjamin
              yesterday




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              @BreakingBenjamin netstat sometimes uses a shorthand where it just lists the network portion of the address (omitting the host portion); in "192.16.1" three octets are listed, indicating 8 octets = 24 bits of network portion. If you look at the full output in the original question, you'll also see entries for "224.0.0" (short for 224.0.0.0/24, the multicast local control block), "169.254" (169.254.0.0/16, dynamic link-local addresses), and "127" (127.0.0.0/8, local loopback).

              – Gordon Davisson
              yesterday





              @BreakingBenjamin netstat sometimes uses a shorthand where it just lists the network portion of the address (omitting the host portion); in "192.16.1" three octets are listed, indicating 8 octets = 24 bits of network portion. If you look at the full output in the original question, you'll also see entries for "224.0.0" (short for 224.0.0.0/24, the multicast local control block), "169.254" (169.254.0.0/16, dynamic link-local addresses), and "127" (127.0.0.0/8, local loopback).

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              @BreakingBenjamin in other words, any trailing ".0"s are removed from addresses to display a number with less than three dots. The user is supposed to know to add them back when they're needed.

              – Monty Harder
              13 hours ago





              @BreakingBenjamin in other words, any trailing ".0"s are removed from addresses to display a number with less than three dots. The user is supposed to know to add them back when they're needed.

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              /32 addressing



              Generally speaking, /32 means that the network has only a single IPv4 address and all traffic will go directly between the device with that IPv4 address and the default gateway. The device would not be able to communicate with other devices on the network.



              There are a couple of possible reasons for this that I've seen. It could be:




              • A webserver serving multiple sites with each site bound to a specific IPv4 address

              • A loopback address used for testing.

              • Isolating a machine from the network to allow only statically set routes to connect. (For decommissioning, for example.)


              Network ID



              The network ID portion of an IP address is determined by the subnet mask. For example:




              • A /24 IPv4 network has a subnet mask of 1111.1111.1111.0000, meaning the first 3 octets are the network ID and the last octet is used for assigning host IDs (256 available IDs, though usually some are reserved).

              • A /16 IPv4 network has a subnet mask of 1111.1111.0000.0000, meaning the first 2 octets are the network ID and the last octet is used for assigning host IDs (65536 available IDs, though usually some are reserved).


              In the case of /32, this doesn't apply as the address is both a network ID and host ID. /31 addresses are also all host IDs with no reserved 0th address.






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              • But this network cannot exist as it won't have then network id ? The only id , as you said , gets assigned to host ?

                – Breaking Benjamin
                2 days ago











              • More accurately, this would have only a network ID and no host ID. In the case of a loopback address, you have no need for host IDs as there is only one.

                – Worthwelle
                2 days ago











              • A web server runs on a machine which have an ip address. Inside web server , we host sites. so how can anyone host a site by such /32 addressing because that ip belongs to the machine and not to the site ? If we say a site have ip /32 , we are actually saying that the machine have /32 addressing and in such a case how is that machine connected to network ?

                – Breaking Benjamin
                2 days ago








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                /31 and /32 are exceptions to the general rule; all addresses within them are host IDs. (They still have a network ID, but it's simultaneously a host ID too.)

                – grawity
                2 days ago






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                To clarify, a /31 still has only one "network ID" (like in all other cases) – it just has two hosts and no reserved/unusable addresses.

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              /32 addressing



              Generally speaking, /32 means that the network has only a single IPv4 address and all traffic will go directly between the device with that IPv4 address and the default gateway. The device would not be able to communicate with other devices on the network.



              There are a couple of possible reasons for this that I've seen. It could be:




              • A webserver serving multiple sites with each site bound to a specific IPv4 address

              • A loopback address used for testing.

              • Isolating a machine from the network to allow only statically set routes to connect. (For decommissioning, for example.)


              Network ID



              The network ID portion of an IP address is determined by the subnet mask. For example:




              • A /24 IPv4 network has a subnet mask of 1111.1111.1111.0000, meaning the first 3 octets are the network ID and the last octet is used for assigning host IDs (256 available IDs, though usually some are reserved).

              • A /16 IPv4 network has a subnet mask of 1111.1111.0000.0000, meaning the first 2 octets are the network ID and the last octet is used for assigning host IDs (65536 available IDs, though usually some are reserved).


              In the case of /32, this doesn't apply as the address is both a network ID and host ID. /31 addresses are also all host IDs with no reserved 0th address.






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              • But this network cannot exist as it won't have then network id ? The only id , as you said , gets assigned to host ?

                – Breaking Benjamin
                2 days ago











              • More accurately, this would have only a network ID and no host ID. In the case of a loopback address, you have no need for host IDs as there is only one.

                – Worthwelle
                2 days ago











              • A web server runs on a machine which have an ip address. Inside web server , we host sites. so how can anyone host a site by such /32 addressing because that ip belongs to the machine and not to the site ? If we say a site have ip /32 , we are actually saying that the machine have /32 addressing and in such a case how is that machine connected to network ?

                – Breaking Benjamin
                2 days ago








              • 4





                /31 and /32 are exceptions to the general rule; all addresses within them are host IDs. (They still have a network ID, but it's simultaneously a host ID too.)

                – grawity
                2 days ago






              • 4





                To clarify, a /31 still has only one "network ID" (like in all other cases) – it just has two hosts and no reserved/unusable addresses.

                – grawity
                2 days ago
















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              /32 addressing



              Generally speaking, /32 means that the network has only a single IPv4 address and all traffic will go directly between the device with that IPv4 address and the default gateway. The device would not be able to communicate with other devices on the network.



              There are a couple of possible reasons for this that I've seen. It could be:




              • A webserver serving multiple sites with each site bound to a specific IPv4 address

              • A loopback address used for testing.

              • Isolating a machine from the network to allow only statically set routes to connect. (For decommissioning, for example.)


              Network ID



              The network ID portion of an IP address is determined by the subnet mask. For example:




              • A /24 IPv4 network has a subnet mask of 1111.1111.1111.0000, meaning the first 3 octets are the network ID and the last octet is used for assigning host IDs (256 available IDs, though usually some are reserved).

              • A /16 IPv4 network has a subnet mask of 1111.1111.0000.0000, meaning the first 2 octets are the network ID and the last octet is used for assigning host IDs (65536 available IDs, though usually some are reserved).


              In the case of /32, this doesn't apply as the address is both a network ID and host ID. /31 addresses are also all host IDs with no reserved 0th address.






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              /32 addressing



              Generally speaking, /32 means that the network has only a single IPv4 address and all traffic will go directly between the device with that IPv4 address and the default gateway. The device would not be able to communicate with other devices on the network.



              There are a couple of possible reasons for this that I've seen. It could be:




              • A webserver serving multiple sites with each site bound to a specific IPv4 address

              • A loopback address used for testing.

              • Isolating a machine from the network to allow only statically set routes to connect. (For decommissioning, for example.)


              Network ID



              The network ID portion of an IP address is determined by the subnet mask. For example:




              • A /24 IPv4 network has a subnet mask of 1111.1111.1111.0000, meaning the first 3 octets are the network ID and the last octet is used for assigning host IDs (256 available IDs, though usually some are reserved).

              • A /16 IPv4 network has a subnet mask of 1111.1111.0000.0000, meaning the first 2 octets are the network ID and the last octet is used for assigning host IDs (65536 available IDs, though usually some are reserved).


              In the case of /32, this doesn't apply as the address is both a network ID and host ID. /31 addresses are also all host IDs with no reserved 0th address.







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              • But this network cannot exist as it won't have then network id ? The only id , as you said , gets assigned to host ?

                – Breaking Benjamin
                2 days ago











              • More accurately, this would have only a network ID and no host ID. In the case of a loopback address, you have no need for host IDs as there is only one.

                – Worthwelle
                2 days ago











              • A web server runs on a machine which have an ip address. Inside web server , we host sites. so how can anyone host a site by such /32 addressing because that ip belongs to the machine and not to the site ? If we say a site have ip /32 , we are actually saying that the machine have /32 addressing and in such a case how is that machine connected to network ?

                – Breaking Benjamin
                2 days ago








              • 4





                /31 and /32 are exceptions to the general rule; all addresses within them are host IDs. (They still have a network ID, but it's simultaneously a host ID too.)

                – grawity
                2 days ago






              • 4





                To clarify, a /31 still has only one "network ID" (like in all other cases) – it just has two hosts and no reserved/unusable addresses.

                – grawity
                2 days ago





















              • But this network cannot exist as it won't have then network id ? The only id , as you said , gets assigned to host ?

                – Breaking Benjamin
                2 days ago











              • More accurately, this would have only a network ID and no host ID. In the case of a loopback address, you have no need for host IDs as there is only one.

                – Worthwelle
                2 days ago











              • A web server runs on a machine which have an ip address. Inside web server , we host sites. so how can anyone host a site by such /32 addressing because that ip belongs to the machine and not to the site ? If we say a site have ip /32 , we are actually saying that the machine have /32 addressing and in such a case how is that machine connected to network ?

                – Breaking Benjamin
                2 days ago








              • 4





                /31 and /32 are exceptions to the general rule; all addresses within them are host IDs. (They still have a network ID, but it's simultaneously a host ID too.)

                – grawity
                2 days ago






              • 4





                To clarify, a /31 still has only one "network ID" (like in all other cases) – it just has two hosts and no reserved/unusable addresses.

                – grawity
                2 days ago



















              But this network cannot exist as it won't have then network id ? The only id , as you said , gets assigned to host ?

              – Breaking Benjamin
              2 days ago





              But this network cannot exist as it won't have then network id ? The only id , as you said , gets assigned to host ?

              – Breaking Benjamin
              2 days ago













              More accurately, this would have only a network ID and no host ID. In the case of a loopback address, you have no need for host IDs as there is only one.

              – Worthwelle
              2 days ago





              More accurately, this would have only a network ID and no host ID. In the case of a loopback address, you have no need for host IDs as there is only one.

              – Worthwelle
              2 days ago













              A web server runs on a machine which have an ip address. Inside web server , we host sites. so how can anyone host a site by such /32 addressing because that ip belongs to the machine and not to the site ? If we say a site have ip /32 , we are actually saying that the machine have /32 addressing and in such a case how is that machine connected to network ?

              – Breaking Benjamin
              2 days ago







              A web server runs on a machine which have an ip address. Inside web server , we host sites. so how can anyone host a site by such /32 addressing because that ip belongs to the machine and not to the site ? If we say a site have ip /32 , we are actually saying that the machine have /32 addressing and in such a case how is that machine connected to network ?

              – Breaking Benjamin
              2 days ago






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              4





              /31 and /32 are exceptions to the general rule; all addresses within them are host IDs. (They still have a network ID, but it's simultaneously a host ID too.)

              – grawity
              2 days ago





              /31 and /32 are exceptions to the general rule; all addresses within them are host IDs. (They still have a network ID, but it's simultaneously a host ID too.)

              – grawity
              2 days ago




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              4





              To clarify, a /31 still has only one "network ID" (like in all other cases) – it just has two hosts and no reserved/unusable addresses.

              – grawity
              2 days ago







              To clarify, a /31 still has only one "network ID" (like in all other cases) – it just has two hosts and no reserved/unusable addresses.

              – grawity
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              It is just CIDR value. You can learn more in here for CIDR.



              TL;DR




              A CIDR network address looks like this under IPv4:



              192.30.250.00/18



              The "192.30.250.0" is the network address itself and the "18" says
              that the first 18 bits are the network part of the address, leaving
              the last 14 bits for specific host addresses.
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                It is just CIDR value. You can learn more in here for CIDR.



                TL;DR




                A CIDR network address looks like this under IPv4:



                192.30.250.00/18



                The "192.30.250.0" is the network address itself and the "18" says
                that the first 18 bits are the network part of the address, leaving
                the last 14 bits for specific host addresses.
                subnet-mask







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                  It is just CIDR value. You can learn more in here for CIDR.



                  TL;DR




                  A CIDR network address looks like this under IPv4:



                  192.30.250.00/18



                  The "192.30.250.0" is the network address itself and the "18" says
                  that the first 18 bits are the network part of the address, leaving
                  the last 14 bits for specific host addresses.
                  subnet-mask







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                  It is just CIDR value. You can learn more in here for CIDR.



                  TL;DR




                  A CIDR network address looks like this under IPv4:



                  192.30.250.00/18



                  The "192.30.250.0" is the network address itself and the "18" says
                  that the first 18 bits are the network part of the address, leaving
                  the last 14 bits for specific host addresses.
                  subnet-mask








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                      1















                      easiest thing is web search and read articles related to subnet mask and subnet mask binary shorthand and CIDR



                      and also check out subnet calculators



                      the /32 is the CIDR (shorthand) and refers to how many 1's are in the subnet mask. For /32 that is 255.255.255.255 or 11111111.11111111.11111111.1111111



                      that means you can only have one ip address, on your network before needing a gateway/router to get outside that network. with /32 it's just you.
                      A subnet mask is a number that defines a range of IP addresses available within a network



                      CIDR = classless inter-domain routing



                      what does using /32 mean : I don't believe it is an invalid setting however it effectively turns off networking... or limits the network to just you... you can only talk to yourself if you don't have a gateway set up to reach outside that netmask.



                      what will its network id be: I assume you mean what will ip address be, and ip address will be whatever you set it to be. The IP address and subnet mask (which is what you are dealing with) are two different although related things.



                      can a host exist without a network id [ip address?] : can you exist without having a first and last name or without an address? yes the host can exist. kinda need to better define what u mean by exist.






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                      • "network ID" usually refers to the address with all 'host' bits zeroed out – i.e. one of the two "reserved" addresses in a subnet. It's not the host's address.

                        – grawity
                        2 days ago











                      • @ron As far as I know , network id and ip address assigned to host in that network are 2 different things. Like 192.168.0.0 is a network id and if its subnet be 255.255.255.0 , then host in this network can be 192.168.0.1 - 192.168.0.254 . hence I asked in this case how a host can exist without a network id ?

                        – Breaking Benjamin
                        2 days ago













                      • I think it's a matter of symantics and can get hard to discuss typing out like this. strictly speaking if you say host then you imply or require a valid identifier (id) which is what? Not necessarily a hostname because their can be two systems having the same host name on a network. In most cases the unique identifier should be the network hardware MAC address.. which is never supposed to duplicate between billions of computer devices today? And old school nomenclature i think is host vs terminal, so without a valid network interface your system becomes a terminal and not a host.

                        – ron
                        2 days ago











                      • and then as a terminal would not be reachable on the network, only hosts with properly configured network interfaces can communicate on the network(s). however with /32 netmask and a properly configured network interface (including gateway) then yes you can be a host on the network and exist. but with /32 on a host having ip 10.1.2.3 it will not communicate to something right next to it at 10.1.2.4 which u would take for granted usually because 10.1.2.3 and 10.1.2.4 would be separate networks and require a gateway/router to make the connection between those two networks.

                        – ron
                        2 days ago











                      • correction: network hardware mac address is unique on your local network as defined by the subnet mask.

                        – ron
                        2 days ago
















                      1















                      easiest thing is web search and read articles related to subnet mask and subnet mask binary shorthand and CIDR



                      and also check out subnet calculators



                      the /32 is the CIDR (shorthand) and refers to how many 1's are in the subnet mask. For /32 that is 255.255.255.255 or 11111111.11111111.11111111.1111111



                      that means you can only have one ip address, on your network before needing a gateway/router to get outside that network. with /32 it's just you.
                      A subnet mask is a number that defines a range of IP addresses available within a network



                      CIDR = classless inter-domain routing



                      what does using /32 mean : I don't believe it is an invalid setting however it effectively turns off networking... or limits the network to just you... you can only talk to yourself if you don't have a gateway set up to reach outside that netmask.



                      what will its network id be: I assume you mean what will ip address be, and ip address will be whatever you set it to be. The IP address and subnet mask (which is what you are dealing with) are two different although related things.



                      can a host exist without a network id [ip address?] : can you exist without having a first and last name or without an address? yes the host can exist. kinda need to better define what u mean by exist.






                      share|improve this answer




























                      • "network ID" usually refers to the address with all 'host' bits zeroed out – i.e. one of the two "reserved" addresses in a subnet. It's not the host's address.

                        – grawity
                        2 days ago











                      • @ron As far as I know , network id and ip address assigned to host in that network are 2 different things. Like 192.168.0.0 is a network id and if its subnet be 255.255.255.0 , then host in this network can be 192.168.0.1 - 192.168.0.254 . hence I asked in this case how a host can exist without a network id ?

                        – Breaking Benjamin
                        2 days ago













                      • I think it's a matter of symantics and can get hard to discuss typing out like this. strictly speaking if you say host then you imply or require a valid identifier (id) which is what? Not necessarily a hostname because their can be two systems having the same host name on a network. In most cases the unique identifier should be the network hardware MAC address.. which is never supposed to duplicate between billions of computer devices today? And old school nomenclature i think is host vs terminal, so without a valid network interface your system becomes a terminal and not a host.

                        – ron
                        2 days ago











                      • and then as a terminal would not be reachable on the network, only hosts with properly configured network interfaces can communicate on the network(s). however with /32 netmask and a properly configured network interface (including gateway) then yes you can be a host on the network and exist. but with /32 on a host having ip 10.1.2.3 it will not communicate to something right next to it at 10.1.2.4 which u would take for granted usually because 10.1.2.3 and 10.1.2.4 would be separate networks and require a gateway/router to make the connection between those two networks.

                        – ron
                        2 days ago











                      • correction: network hardware mac address is unique on your local network as defined by the subnet mask.

                        – ron
                        2 days ago














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                      1









                      easiest thing is web search and read articles related to subnet mask and subnet mask binary shorthand and CIDR



                      and also check out subnet calculators



                      the /32 is the CIDR (shorthand) and refers to how many 1's are in the subnet mask. For /32 that is 255.255.255.255 or 11111111.11111111.11111111.1111111



                      that means you can only have one ip address, on your network before needing a gateway/router to get outside that network. with /32 it's just you.
                      A subnet mask is a number that defines a range of IP addresses available within a network



                      CIDR = classless inter-domain routing



                      what does using /32 mean : I don't believe it is an invalid setting however it effectively turns off networking... or limits the network to just you... you can only talk to yourself if you don't have a gateway set up to reach outside that netmask.



                      what will its network id be: I assume you mean what will ip address be, and ip address will be whatever you set it to be. The IP address and subnet mask (which is what you are dealing with) are two different although related things.



                      can a host exist without a network id [ip address?] : can you exist without having a first and last name or without an address? yes the host can exist. kinda need to better define what u mean by exist.






                      share|improve this answer















                      easiest thing is web search and read articles related to subnet mask and subnet mask binary shorthand and CIDR



                      and also check out subnet calculators



                      the /32 is the CIDR (shorthand) and refers to how many 1's are in the subnet mask. For /32 that is 255.255.255.255 or 11111111.11111111.11111111.1111111



                      that means you can only have one ip address, on your network before needing a gateway/router to get outside that network. with /32 it's just you.
                      A subnet mask is a number that defines a range of IP addresses available within a network



                      CIDR = classless inter-domain routing



                      what does using /32 mean : I don't believe it is an invalid setting however it effectively turns off networking... or limits the network to just you... you can only talk to yourself if you don't have a gateway set up to reach outside that netmask.



                      what will its network id be: I assume you mean what will ip address be, and ip address will be whatever you set it to be. The IP address and subnet mask (which is what you are dealing with) are two different although related things.



                      can a host exist without a network id [ip address?] : can you exist without having a first and last name or without an address? yes the host can exist. kinda need to better define what u mean by exist.







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                      • "network ID" usually refers to the address with all 'host' bits zeroed out – i.e. one of the two "reserved" addresses in a subnet. It's not the host's address.

                        – grawity
                        2 days ago











                      • @ron As far as I know , network id and ip address assigned to host in that network are 2 different things. Like 192.168.0.0 is a network id and if its subnet be 255.255.255.0 , then host in this network can be 192.168.0.1 - 192.168.0.254 . hence I asked in this case how a host can exist without a network id ?

                        – Breaking Benjamin
                        2 days ago













                      • I think it's a matter of symantics and can get hard to discuss typing out like this. strictly speaking if you say host then you imply or require a valid identifier (id) which is what? Not necessarily a hostname because their can be two systems having the same host name on a network. In most cases the unique identifier should be the network hardware MAC address.. which is never supposed to duplicate between billions of computer devices today? And old school nomenclature i think is host vs terminal, so without a valid network interface your system becomes a terminal and not a host.

                        – ron
                        2 days ago











                      • and then as a terminal would not be reachable on the network, only hosts with properly configured network interfaces can communicate on the network(s). however with /32 netmask and a properly configured network interface (including gateway) then yes you can be a host on the network and exist. but with /32 on a host having ip 10.1.2.3 it will not communicate to something right next to it at 10.1.2.4 which u would take for granted usually because 10.1.2.3 and 10.1.2.4 would be separate networks and require a gateway/router to make the connection between those two networks.

                        – ron
                        2 days ago











                      • correction: network hardware mac address is unique on your local network as defined by the subnet mask.

                        – ron
                        2 days ago



















                      • "network ID" usually refers to the address with all 'host' bits zeroed out – i.e. one of the two "reserved" addresses in a subnet. It's not the host's address.

                        – grawity
                        2 days ago











                      • @ron As far as I know , network id and ip address assigned to host in that network are 2 different things. Like 192.168.0.0 is a network id and if its subnet be 255.255.255.0 , then host in this network can be 192.168.0.1 - 192.168.0.254 . hence I asked in this case how a host can exist without a network id ?

                        – Breaking Benjamin
                        2 days ago













                      • I think it's a matter of symantics and can get hard to discuss typing out like this. strictly speaking if you say host then you imply or require a valid identifier (id) which is what? Not necessarily a hostname because their can be two systems having the same host name on a network. In most cases the unique identifier should be the network hardware MAC address.. which is never supposed to duplicate between billions of computer devices today? And old school nomenclature i think is host vs terminal, so without a valid network interface your system becomes a terminal and not a host.

                        – ron
                        2 days ago











                      • and then as a terminal would not be reachable on the network, only hosts with properly configured network interfaces can communicate on the network(s). however with /32 netmask and a properly configured network interface (including gateway) then yes you can be a host on the network and exist. but with /32 on a host having ip 10.1.2.3 it will not communicate to something right next to it at 10.1.2.4 which u would take for granted usually because 10.1.2.3 and 10.1.2.4 would be separate networks and require a gateway/router to make the connection between those two networks.

                        – ron
                        2 days ago











                      • correction: network hardware mac address is unique on your local network as defined by the subnet mask.

                        – ron
                        2 days ago

















                      "network ID" usually refers to the address with all 'host' bits zeroed out – i.e. one of the two "reserved" addresses in a subnet. It's not the host's address.

                      – grawity
                      2 days ago





                      "network ID" usually refers to the address with all 'host' bits zeroed out – i.e. one of the two "reserved" addresses in a subnet. It's not the host's address.

                      – grawity
                      2 days ago













                      @ron As far as I know , network id and ip address assigned to host in that network are 2 different things. Like 192.168.0.0 is a network id and if its subnet be 255.255.255.0 , then host in this network can be 192.168.0.1 - 192.168.0.254 . hence I asked in this case how a host can exist without a network id ?

                      – Breaking Benjamin
                      2 days ago







                      @ron As far as I know , network id and ip address assigned to host in that network are 2 different things. Like 192.168.0.0 is a network id and if its subnet be 255.255.255.0 , then host in this network can be 192.168.0.1 - 192.168.0.254 . hence I asked in this case how a host can exist without a network id ?

                      – Breaking Benjamin
                      2 days ago















                      I think it's a matter of symantics and can get hard to discuss typing out like this. strictly speaking if you say host then you imply or require a valid identifier (id) which is what? Not necessarily a hostname because their can be two systems having the same host name on a network. In most cases the unique identifier should be the network hardware MAC address.. which is never supposed to duplicate between billions of computer devices today? And old school nomenclature i think is host vs terminal, so without a valid network interface your system becomes a terminal and not a host.

                      – ron
                      2 days ago





                      I think it's a matter of symantics and can get hard to discuss typing out like this. strictly speaking if you say host then you imply or require a valid identifier (id) which is what? Not necessarily a hostname because their can be two systems having the same host name on a network. In most cases the unique identifier should be the network hardware MAC address.. which is never supposed to duplicate between billions of computer devices today? And old school nomenclature i think is host vs terminal, so without a valid network interface your system becomes a terminal and not a host.

                      – ron
                      2 days ago













                      and then as a terminal would not be reachable on the network, only hosts with properly configured network interfaces can communicate on the network(s). however with /32 netmask and a properly configured network interface (including gateway) then yes you can be a host on the network and exist. but with /32 on a host having ip 10.1.2.3 it will not communicate to something right next to it at 10.1.2.4 which u would take for granted usually because 10.1.2.3 and 10.1.2.4 would be separate networks and require a gateway/router to make the connection between those two networks.

                      – ron
                      2 days ago





                      and then as a terminal would not be reachable on the network, only hosts with properly configured network interfaces can communicate on the network(s). however with /32 netmask and a properly configured network interface (including gateway) then yes you can be a host on the network and exist. but with /32 on a host having ip 10.1.2.3 it will not communicate to something right next to it at 10.1.2.4 which u would take for granted usually because 10.1.2.3 and 10.1.2.4 would be separate networks and require a gateway/router to make the connection between those two networks.

                      – ron
                      2 days ago













                      correction: network hardware mac address is unique on your local network as defined by the subnet mask.

                      – ron
                      2 days ago





                      correction: network hardware mac address is unique on your local network as defined by the subnet mask.

                      – ron
                      2 days ago











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                      What you're looking at are not subnet masks. They are indications
                      of the length of the routing table¹ prefixes.



                      A naïve implementation of a routing table would list every possible IP
                      address so that, given any IP address, you'd look up that exact one
                      and get back the routing information² associated with it.



                      Clearly some sort of compression is needed. The nature of routing
                      information is that adjacent addresses are likely to use the same
                      information, so we can use a form of radix tree to compress these
                      together. Here, briefly, is how it works.



                      Given the numbers 0-7, we can represent them in binary as so:



                      0   000
                      1 001
                      2 010
                      3 011
                      4 100
                      5 101
                      6 110
                      7 111


                      Now if we have two routing table entries, one for addresses 0 and 1,
                      and another for addreses 2 and 3, we can store them under the binary
                      prefixes that these share. If we use a . to indicate the "unused"
                      bit after the end of the prefix, we have 00. for the range 0-1 and
                      01. for the range 2-3.



                      A standard way of representing this is with the lowest number from the
                      range followed by the length of the prefix; in this case these would
                      be 0/2 for the range 0-1 and 2/2 for the range 2-3.



                      But what happens if we want to look up the routing information for
                      address 6? Normally we'd add a "default" set of routing information
                      with prefix 0/0, i.e., matching any bits at all and then when we
                      search we look for the most specific information i.e, the longest
                      matching prefix, we can find. So the full routing table we've just
                      described is:



                      0/2     00.     Matches addresses 1 and 2.
                      2/2 01. Matches addresses 3 and 4.
                      0/0 ... Matches any address.


                      Subnet masks can be described with prefixes in the same way, and so
                      this scheme is often used for that. But keep in mind that just because
                      this scheme can be used for describing subnets does not mean that
                      it's used only for describing subnets.



                      As an example of routing table prefixes not being subnets, you could
                      have two network interfaces connected to the same network, say,
                      192.168.2.0/24. (This could be implemented by connecting two separate
                      network cards to the same switch, each with its own cable.) You could
                      then set up the routing table to "balance" outgoing traffic across the
                      two interfaces by using two routing table entries:



                      192.168.2.0/25      eth0        # range ...2.0   to ...2.127
                      192.168.2.128/25 eth1 # range ...2.128 to ...2.255


                      This would send packets destined to addresses 0-127 on that network
                      out eth0, but packets destined to addresses 128-255 on that network
                      out eth1. This is a bad way of doing this (for reasons I won't get
                      into here), but demonstrates how routing prefixes and network
                      addresses might not match.





                      ¹ The Wikipedia article on routing tables unfortunately says
                      that the prefix field holds the "Network ID." While this may be true
                      in certain specific implementations of routing tables, it's not
                      always a network ID in the general case, as seen in both the example
                      you provide and my example later in this answer.



                      ² This routing information typically includes things like what
                      interface to use, what router to contact on that interface, if any,
                      the MAC address of a host for hosts directly reachable through that
                      interface, what source address we should put on the packet if the
                      host has multiple source addresses, security information, and so on.
                      There's a huge variety of data that could be there, but none of that
                      is important for the purposes of this discussion since we're talking
                      just about how you look up the correct data set for a given address,
                      not what's in the data set itself.






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                        What you're looking at are not subnet masks. They are indications
                        of the length of the routing table¹ prefixes.



                        A naïve implementation of a routing table would list every possible IP
                        address so that, given any IP address, you'd look up that exact one
                        and get back the routing information² associated with it.



                        Clearly some sort of compression is needed. The nature of routing
                        information is that adjacent addresses are likely to use the same
                        information, so we can use a form of radix tree to compress these
                        together. Here, briefly, is how it works.



                        Given the numbers 0-7, we can represent them in binary as so:



                        0   000
                        1 001
                        2 010
                        3 011
                        4 100
                        5 101
                        6 110
                        7 111


                        Now if we have two routing table entries, one for addresses 0 and 1,
                        and another for addreses 2 and 3, we can store them under the binary
                        prefixes that these share. If we use a . to indicate the "unused"
                        bit after the end of the prefix, we have 00. for the range 0-1 and
                        01. for the range 2-3.



                        A standard way of representing this is with the lowest number from the
                        range followed by the length of the prefix; in this case these would
                        be 0/2 for the range 0-1 and 2/2 for the range 2-3.



                        But what happens if we want to look up the routing information for
                        address 6? Normally we'd add a "default" set of routing information
                        with prefix 0/0, i.e., matching any bits at all and then when we
                        search we look for the most specific information i.e, the longest
                        matching prefix, we can find. So the full routing table we've just
                        described is:



                        0/2     00.     Matches addresses 1 and 2.
                        2/2 01. Matches addresses 3 and 4.
                        0/0 ... Matches any address.


                        Subnet masks can be described with prefixes in the same way, and so
                        this scheme is often used for that. But keep in mind that just because
                        this scheme can be used for describing subnets does not mean that
                        it's used only for describing subnets.



                        As an example of routing table prefixes not being subnets, you could
                        have two network interfaces connected to the same network, say,
                        192.168.2.0/24. (This could be implemented by connecting two separate
                        network cards to the same switch, each with its own cable.) You could
                        then set up the routing table to "balance" outgoing traffic across the
                        two interfaces by using two routing table entries:



                        192.168.2.0/25      eth0        # range ...2.0   to ...2.127
                        192.168.2.128/25 eth1 # range ...2.128 to ...2.255


                        This would send packets destined to addresses 0-127 on that network
                        out eth0, but packets destined to addresses 128-255 on that network
                        out eth1. This is a bad way of doing this (for reasons I won't get
                        into here), but demonstrates how routing prefixes and network
                        addresses might not match.





                        ¹ The Wikipedia article on routing tables unfortunately says
                        that the prefix field holds the "Network ID." While this may be true
                        in certain specific implementations of routing tables, it's not
                        always a network ID in the general case, as seen in both the example
                        you provide and my example later in this answer.



                        ² This routing information typically includes things like what
                        interface to use, what router to contact on that interface, if any,
                        the MAC address of a host for hosts directly reachable through that
                        interface, what source address we should put on the packet if the
                        host has multiple source addresses, security information, and so on.
                        There's a huge variety of data that could be there, but none of that
                        is important for the purposes of this discussion since we're talking
                        just about how you look up the correct data set for a given address,
                        not what's in the data set itself.






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                          What you're looking at are not subnet masks. They are indications
                          of the length of the routing table¹ prefixes.



                          A naïve implementation of a routing table would list every possible IP
                          address so that, given any IP address, you'd look up that exact one
                          and get back the routing information² associated with it.



                          Clearly some sort of compression is needed. The nature of routing
                          information is that adjacent addresses are likely to use the same
                          information, so we can use a form of radix tree to compress these
                          together. Here, briefly, is how it works.



                          Given the numbers 0-7, we can represent them in binary as so:



                          0   000
                          1 001
                          2 010
                          3 011
                          4 100
                          5 101
                          6 110
                          7 111


                          Now if we have two routing table entries, one for addresses 0 and 1,
                          and another for addreses 2 and 3, we can store them under the binary
                          prefixes that these share. If we use a . to indicate the "unused"
                          bit after the end of the prefix, we have 00. for the range 0-1 and
                          01. for the range 2-3.



                          A standard way of representing this is with the lowest number from the
                          range followed by the length of the prefix; in this case these would
                          be 0/2 for the range 0-1 and 2/2 for the range 2-3.



                          But what happens if we want to look up the routing information for
                          address 6? Normally we'd add a "default" set of routing information
                          with prefix 0/0, i.e., matching any bits at all and then when we
                          search we look for the most specific information i.e, the longest
                          matching prefix, we can find. So the full routing table we've just
                          described is:



                          0/2     00.     Matches addresses 1 and 2.
                          2/2 01. Matches addresses 3 and 4.
                          0/0 ... Matches any address.


                          Subnet masks can be described with prefixes in the same way, and so
                          this scheme is often used for that. But keep in mind that just because
                          this scheme can be used for describing subnets does not mean that
                          it's used only for describing subnets.



                          As an example of routing table prefixes not being subnets, you could
                          have two network interfaces connected to the same network, say,
                          192.168.2.0/24. (This could be implemented by connecting two separate
                          network cards to the same switch, each with its own cable.) You could
                          then set up the routing table to "balance" outgoing traffic across the
                          two interfaces by using two routing table entries:



                          192.168.2.0/25      eth0        # range ...2.0   to ...2.127
                          192.168.2.128/25 eth1 # range ...2.128 to ...2.255


                          This would send packets destined to addresses 0-127 on that network
                          out eth0, but packets destined to addresses 128-255 on that network
                          out eth1. This is a bad way of doing this (for reasons I won't get
                          into here), but demonstrates how routing prefixes and network
                          addresses might not match.





                          ¹ The Wikipedia article on routing tables unfortunately says
                          that the prefix field holds the "Network ID." While this may be true
                          in certain specific implementations of routing tables, it's not
                          always a network ID in the general case, as seen in both the example
                          you provide and my example later in this answer.



                          ² This routing information typically includes things like what
                          interface to use, what router to contact on that interface, if any,
                          the MAC address of a host for hosts directly reachable through that
                          interface, what source address we should put on the packet if the
                          host has multiple source addresses, security information, and so on.
                          There's a huge variety of data that could be there, but none of that
                          is important for the purposes of this discussion since we're talking
                          just about how you look up the correct data set for a given address,
                          not what's in the data set itself.






                          share|improve this answer













                          What you're looking at are not subnet masks. They are indications
                          of the length of the routing table¹ prefixes.



                          A naïve implementation of a routing table would list every possible IP
                          address so that, given any IP address, you'd look up that exact one
                          and get back the routing information² associated with it.



                          Clearly some sort of compression is needed. The nature of routing
                          information is that adjacent addresses are likely to use the same
                          information, so we can use a form of radix tree to compress these
                          together. Here, briefly, is how it works.



                          Given the numbers 0-7, we can represent them in binary as so:



                          0   000
                          1 001
                          2 010
                          3 011
                          4 100
                          5 101
                          6 110
                          7 111


                          Now if we have two routing table entries, one for addresses 0 and 1,
                          and another for addreses 2 and 3, we can store them under the binary
                          prefixes that these share. If we use a . to indicate the "unused"
                          bit after the end of the prefix, we have 00. for the range 0-1 and
                          01. for the range 2-3.



                          A standard way of representing this is with the lowest number from the
                          range followed by the length of the prefix; in this case these would
                          be 0/2 for the range 0-1 and 2/2 for the range 2-3.



                          But what happens if we want to look up the routing information for
                          address 6? Normally we'd add a "default" set of routing information
                          with prefix 0/0, i.e., matching any bits at all and then when we
                          search we look for the most specific information i.e, the longest
                          matching prefix, we can find. So the full routing table we've just
                          described is:



                          0/2     00.     Matches addresses 1 and 2.
                          2/2 01. Matches addresses 3 and 4.
                          0/0 ... Matches any address.


                          Subnet masks can be described with prefixes in the same way, and so
                          this scheme is often used for that. But keep in mind that just because
                          this scheme can be used for describing subnets does not mean that
                          it's used only for describing subnets.



                          As an example of routing table prefixes not being subnets, you could
                          have two network interfaces connected to the same network, say,
                          192.168.2.0/24. (This could be implemented by connecting two separate
                          network cards to the same switch, each with its own cable.) You could
                          then set up the routing table to "balance" outgoing traffic across the
                          two interfaces by using two routing table entries:



                          192.168.2.0/25      eth0        # range ...2.0   to ...2.127
                          192.168.2.128/25 eth1 # range ...2.128 to ...2.255


                          This would send packets destined to addresses 0-127 on that network
                          out eth0, but packets destined to addresses 128-255 on that network
                          out eth1. This is a bad way of doing this (for reasons I won't get
                          into here), but demonstrates how routing prefixes and network
                          addresses might not match.





                          ¹ The Wikipedia article on routing tables unfortunately says
                          that the prefix field holds the "Network ID." While this may be true
                          in certain specific implementations of routing tables, it's not
                          always a network ID in the general case, as seen in both the example
                          you provide and my example later in this answer.



                          ² This routing information typically includes things like what
                          interface to use, what router to contact on that interface, if any,
                          the MAC address of a host for hosts directly reachable through that
                          interface, what source address we should put on the packet if the
                          host has multiple source addresses, security information, and so on.
                          There's a huge variety of data that could be there, but none of that
                          is important for the purposes of this discussion since we're talking
                          just about how you look up the correct data set for a given address,
                          not what's in the data set itself.







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