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I am writing a fiction short story roughly based off medieval times in Europe. In it I have a group of men who live in a castle and fight for the castle's lord. (They mainly protect the surrounding villages from a group of bandits.)
If they existed in modern day times I'd refer to them as soldiers. They are much like traditional knights, only they're a whole group, they've never been knighted and aren't members of nobility.
What might they be called? I'm looking for a term, from sometime in the medieval time period (I don't care when), that the surrounding villagers would call them by.
Are the terms vavasseur or sergeant appropriate? Is there another better term?
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I am writing a fiction short story roughly based off medieval times in Europe. In it I have a group of men who live in a castle and fight for the castle's lord. (They mainly protect the surrounding villages from a group of bandits.)
If they existed in modern day times I'd refer to them as soldiers. They are much like traditional knights, only they're a whole group, they've never been knighted and aren't members of nobility.
What might they be called? I'm looking for a term, from sometime in the medieval time period (I don't care when), that the surrounding villagers would call them by.
Are the terms vavasseur or sergeant appropriate? Is there another better term?
middle-ages europe
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To answer this in a realistic mannor, a timeframe and locality within Europe is required (Areas inside Europe envolved differently, thus requiring a general timeframe for a given area). Otherwise this question may be deemed by others as too vague/general or (which is worse) determined as a question asked solely for the purpose of us to do your research for you.
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Look at garrisons.
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I am writing a fiction short story roughly based off medieval times in Europe. In it I have a group of men who live in a castle and fight for the castle's lord. (They mainly protect the surrounding villages from a group of bandits.)
If they existed in modern day times I'd refer to them as soldiers. They are much like traditional knights, only they're a whole group, they've never been knighted and aren't members of nobility.
What might they be called? I'm looking for a term, from sometime in the medieval time period (I don't care when), that the surrounding villagers would call them by.
Are the terms vavasseur or sergeant appropriate? Is there another better term?
middle-ages europe
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I am writing a fiction short story roughly based off medieval times in Europe. In it I have a group of men who live in a castle and fight for the castle's lord. (They mainly protect the surrounding villages from a group of bandits.)
If they existed in modern day times I'd refer to them as soldiers. They are much like traditional knights, only they're a whole group, they've never been knighted and aren't members of nobility.
What might they be called? I'm looking for a term, from sometime in the medieval time period (I don't care when), that the surrounding villagers would call them by.
Are the terms vavasseur or sergeant appropriate? Is there another better term?
middle-ages europe
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They are Men at arms, professional soldiers.
The lance fourni of a knight, the unit of soldiers a knight brought to battles or protected the fief, was formed by professional horse-riders, archers and/or spearmen. They were also called men at arms, so the sergeant/marischal in charge of your unit could be a knight or a common man (a yeoman if you heavily borrow from English history).
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They could also be called mercenaries. Indeed, they usually were mercenaries however they were called in practice.
– Denis de Bernardy
3 hours ago
@DenisdeBernardy: That is incorrect. Every knight was required to show up with a retinue of grooms and men-at-arms as part of his feudal fee when called to arms by his lord. Feudal men-at arms outnumbered mercenaries very considerably in every medieval battle I am aware of. Consider Crecy: the French army comprise over 10,000 feudal men-at-arms (termed common infantry in the link but only 2,000 to 6,000 mercenary crossbowmen. At Agincourt the English longbowmen were entirely feudal levy.
– Pieter Geerkens
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As Carlos Martin has noted, these soldiers are men at arms. They might be armed with swords, bows or crossbows, spears, or halberds depending on precise period and geographic origin. Generally they would be responsible for their own arms and armour, but a wealthier lord might choose to upgrade that in order to field a more impressive and effective force.
Groups numbering in the range 10-20 would be commanded by a sergeant, and might be termed a peloton (the French root of our modern platoon), troupe, or escadre (French root of modern squad) without being too anachronistic. Larger groups, composed of multiple pelotons, would be termed a company and commanded by a captain assisted by a lieutenant. Within a single levy, either mercenary or feudal, there would be some consistency in peloton size, but there need not be complete consistency between companies of different origin, other than the general pattern just described. In companies of several pelotons the most senior sergeant would be the sergeant major.
If the company is of such a size to fight as two separate wings, the captain and lieutenant would command one each. If large enough to deserve three wings, then the captain would command the centre with the lieutenant and sergeant-major each commanding a wing to his left and right. A mercenary company might be as large as two or three hundred men in the later part of the period.
This answer about living arrangements for a castle's Constable notes that the castles built in Wales by Edward I generally were designed to support a garrison of slightly more than 30 men.
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They are Men at arms, professional soldiers.
The lance fourni of a knight, the unit of soldiers a knight brought to battles or protected the fief, was formed by professional horse-riders, archers and/or spearmen. They were also called men at arms, so the sergeant/marischal in charge of your unit could be a knight or a common man (a yeoman if you heavily borrow from English history).
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They could also be called mercenaries. Indeed, they usually were mercenaries however they were called in practice.
– Denis de Bernardy
3 hours ago
@DenisdeBernardy: That is incorrect. Every knight was required to show up with a retinue of grooms and men-at-arms as part of his feudal fee when called to arms by his lord. Feudal men-at arms outnumbered mercenaries very considerably in every medieval battle I am aware of. Consider Crecy: the French army comprise over 10,000 feudal men-at-arms (termed common infantry in the link but only 2,000 to 6,000 mercenary crossbowmen. At Agincourt the English longbowmen were entirely feudal levy.
– Pieter Geerkens
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They are Men at arms, professional soldiers.
The lance fourni of a knight, the unit of soldiers a knight brought to battles or protected the fief, was formed by professional horse-riders, archers and/or spearmen. They were also called men at arms, so the sergeant/marischal in charge of your unit could be a knight or a common man (a yeoman if you heavily borrow from English history).
answered 8 hours ago
Carlos MartinCarlos Martin
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They could also be called mercenaries. Indeed, they usually were mercenaries however they were called in practice.
– Denis de Bernardy
3 hours ago
@DenisdeBernardy: That is incorrect. Every knight was required to show up with a retinue of grooms and men-at-arms as part of his feudal fee when called to arms by his lord. Feudal men-at arms outnumbered mercenaries very considerably in every medieval battle I am aware of. Consider Crecy: the French army comprise over 10,000 feudal men-at-arms (termed common infantry in the link but only 2,000 to 6,000 mercenary crossbowmen. At Agincourt the English longbowmen were entirely feudal levy.
– Pieter Geerkens
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They are Men at arms, professional soldiers.
The lance fourni of a knight, the unit of soldiers a knight brought to battles or protected the fief, was formed by professional horse-riders, archers and/or spearmen. They were also called men at arms, so the sergeant/marischal in charge of your unit could be a knight or a common man (a yeoman if you heavily borrow from English history).
answered 8 hours ago
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They are Men at arms, professional soldiers.
The lance fourni of a knight, the unit of soldiers a knight brought to battles or protected the fief, was formed by professional horse-riders, archers and/or spearmen. They were also called men at arms, so the sergeant/marischal in charge of your unit could be a knight or a common man (a yeoman if you heavily borrow from English history).
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They could also be called mercenaries. Indeed, they usually were mercenaries however they were called in practice.
– Denis de Bernardy
3 hours ago
@DenisdeBernardy: That is incorrect. Every knight was required to show up with a retinue of grooms and men-at-arms as part of his feudal fee when called to arms by his lord. Feudal men-at arms outnumbered mercenaries very considerably in every medieval battle I am aware of. Consider Crecy: the French army comprise over 10,000 feudal men-at-arms (termed common infantry in the link but only 2,000 to 6,000 mercenary crossbowmen. At Agincourt the English longbowmen were entirely feudal levy.
– Pieter Geerkens
2 hours ago
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They could also be called mercenaries. Indeed, they usually were mercenaries however they were called in practice.
– Denis de Bernardy
3 hours ago
@DenisdeBernardy: That is incorrect. Every knight was required to show up with a retinue of grooms and men-at-arms as part of his feudal fee when called to arms by his lord. Feudal men-at arms outnumbered mercenaries very considerably in every medieval battle I am aware of. Consider Crecy: the French army comprise over 10,000 feudal men-at-arms (termed common infantry in the link but only 2,000 to 6,000 mercenary crossbowmen. At Agincourt the English longbowmen were entirely feudal levy.
– Pieter Geerkens
2 hours ago
They could also be called mercenaries. Indeed, they usually were mercenaries however they were called in practice.
– Denis de Bernardy
3 hours ago
They could also be called mercenaries. Indeed, they usually were mercenaries however they were called in practice.
– Denis de Bernardy
3 hours ago
@DenisdeBernardy: That is incorrect. Every knight was required to show up with a retinue of grooms and men-at-arms as part of his feudal fee when called to arms by his lord. Feudal men-at arms outnumbered mercenaries very considerably in every medieval battle I am aware of. Consider Crecy: the French army comprise over 10,000 feudal men-at-arms (termed common infantry in the link but only 2,000 to 6,000 mercenary crossbowmen. At Agincourt the English longbowmen were entirely feudal levy.
– Pieter Geerkens
2 hours ago
@DenisdeBernardy: That is incorrect. Every knight was required to show up with a retinue of grooms and men-at-arms as part of his feudal fee when called to arms by his lord. Feudal men-at arms outnumbered mercenaries very considerably in every medieval battle I am aware of. Consider Crecy: the French army comprise over 10,000 feudal men-at-arms (termed common infantry in the link but only 2,000 to 6,000 mercenary crossbowmen. At Agincourt the English longbowmen were entirely feudal levy.
– Pieter Geerkens
2 hours ago
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As Carlos Martin has noted, these soldiers are men at arms. They might be armed with swords, bows or crossbows, spears, or halberds depending on precise period and geographic origin. Generally they would be responsible for their own arms and armour, but a wealthier lord might choose to upgrade that in order to field a more impressive and effective force.
Groups numbering in the range 10-20 would be commanded by a sergeant, and might be termed a peloton (the French root of our modern platoon), troupe, or escadre (French root of modern squad) without being too anachronistic. Larger groups, composed of multiple pelotons, would be termed a company and commanded by a captain assisted by a lieutenant. Within a single levy, either mercenary or feudal, there would be some consistency in peloton size, but there need not be complete consistency between companies of different origin, other than the general pattern just described. In companies of several pelotons the most senior sergeant would be the sergeant major.
If the company is of such a size to fight as two separate wings, the captain and lieutenant would command one each. If large enough to deserve three wings, then the captain would command the centre with the lieutenant and sergeant-major each commanding a wing to his left and right. A mercenary company might be as large as two or three hundred men in the later part of the period.
This answer about living arrangements for a castle's Constable notes that the castles built in Wales by Edward I generally were designed to support a garrison of slightly more than 30 men.
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As Carlos Martin has noted, these soldiers are men at arms. They might be armed with swords, bows or crossbows, spears, or halberds depending on precise period and geographic origin. Generally they would be responsible for their own arms and armour, but a wealthier lord might choose to upgrade that in order to field a more impressive and effective force.
Groups numbering in the range 10-20 would be commanded by a sergeant, and might be termed a peloton (the French root of our modern platoon), troupe, or escadre (French root of modern squad) without being too anachronistic. Larger groups, composed of multiple pelotons, would be termed a company and commanded by a captain assisted by a lieutenant. Within a single levy, either mercenary or feudal, there would be some consistency in peloton size, but there need not be complete consistency between companies of different origin, other than the general pattern just described. In companies of several pelotons the most senior sergeant would be the sergeant major.
If the company is of such a size to fight as two separate wings, the captain and lieutenant would command one each. If large enough to deserve three wings, then the captain would command the centre with the lieutenant and sergeant-major each commanding a wing to his left and right. A mercenary company might be as large as two or three hundred men in the later part of the period.
This answer about living arrangements for a castle's Constable notes that the castles built in Wales by Edward I generally were designed to support a garrison of slightly more than 30 men.
answered 3 hours ago
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As Carlos Martin has noted, these soldiers are men at arms. They might be armed with swords, bows or crossbows, spears, or halberds depending on precise period and geographic origin. Generally they would be responsible for their own arms and armour, but a wealthier lord might choose to upgrade that in order to field a more impressive and effective force.
Groups numbering in the range 10-20 would be commanded by a sergeant, and might be termed a peloton (the French root of our modern platoon), troupe, or escadre (French root of modern squad) without being too anachronistic. Larger groups, composed of multiple pelotons, would be termed a company and commanded by a captain assisted by a lieutenant. Within a single levy, either mercenary or feudal, there would be some consistency in peloton size, but there need not be complete consistency between companies of different origin, other than the general pattern just described. In companies of several pelotons the most senior sergeant would be the sergeant major.
If the company is of such a size to fight as two separate wings, the captain and lieutenant would command one each. If large enough to deserve three wings, then the captain would command the centre with the lieutenant and sergeant-major each commanding a wing to his left and right. A mercenary company might be as large as two or three hundred men in the later part of the period.
This answer about living arrangements for a castle's Constable notes that the castles built in Wales by Edward I generally were designed to support a garrison of slightly more than 30 men.
answered 3 hours ago
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As Carlos Martin has noted, these soldiers are men at arms. They might be armed with swords, bows or crossbows, spears, or halberds depending on precise period and geographic origin. Generally they would be responsible for their own arms and armour, but a wealthier lord might choose to upgrade that in order to field a more impressive and effective force.
Groups numbering in the range 10-20 would be commanded by a sergeant, and might be termed a peloton (the French root of our modern platoon), troupe, or escadre (French root of modern squad) without being too anachronistic. Larger groups, composed of multiple pelotons, would be termed a company and commanded by a captain assisted by a lieutenant. Within a single levy, either mercenary or feudal, there would be some consistency in peloton size, but there need not be complete consistency between companies of different origin, other than the general pattern just described. In companies of several pelotons the most senior sergeant would be the sergeant major.
If the company is of such a size to fight as two separate wings, the captain and lieutenant would command one each. If large enough to deserve three wings, then the captain would command the centre with the lieutenant and sergeant-major each commanding a wing to his left and right. A mercenary company might be as large as two or three hundred men in the later part of the period.
This answer about living arrangements for a castle's Constable notes that the castles built in Wales by Edward I generally were designed to support a garrison of slightly more than 30 men.
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To answer this in a realistic mannor, a timeframe and locality within Europe is required (Areas inside Europe envolved differently, thus requiring a general timeframe for a given area). Otherwise this question may be deemed by others as too vague/general or (which is worse) determined as a question asked solely for the purpose of us to do your research for you.
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Look at garrisons.
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