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Are both the following sentences usual? Do they mean the same or does the first one imply a great effort? Example:





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          The answer is no. Those sentences are not usual. Professions involving a course of study will not take verbs like "hacerse" or "volverse". The usual verbs are "llegar a ser" or "recibirse/graduarse de/como":




          • Después de varios años, llegó a ser doctor / se recibió de doctor / se graduó como doctor.


          Occasionaly, "convertirse" can be used. This will suggest a process, a transformation, perhaps similar to "llegar a ser":




          • Después de varios años, se convirtió en doctor.


          "hacerse" can be used to indicate a secondary or auxiliary process, not dependent on education but on experience:




          • Después de un tiempo, se hizo médico de frontera.


          "volverse" will only be used with adjectives or with nouns denoting a quality:




          • Con el tiempo, se volvió un médico famoso / un héroe de la medicina.






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          • I found an exception! Y Dios se hizo hombre.

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          • @aparente001 "hombre" is not a profession.

            – Gustavson
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          • Correct! I'm not disagreeing with your answer. I just felt a tiny satisfaction finding something of the form Se hizo [alguien].

            – aparente001
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          The answer is no. Those sentences are not usual. Professions involving a course of study will not take verbs like "hacerse" or "volverse". The usual verbs are "llegar a ser" or "recibirse/graduarse de/como":




          • Después de varios años, llegó a ser doctor / se recibió de doctor / se graduó como doctor.


          Occasionaly, "convertirse" can be used. This will suggest a process, a transformation, perhaps similar to "llegar a ser":




          • Después de varios años, se convirtió en doctor.


          "hacerse" can be used to indicate a secondary or auxiliary process, not dependent on education but on experience:




          • Después de un tiempo, se hizo médico de frontera.


          "volverse" will only be used with adjectives or with nouns denoting a quality:




          • Con el tiempo, se volvió un médico famoso / un héroe de la medicina.






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          • I found an exception! Y Dios se hizo hombre.

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          • @aparente001 "hombre" is not a profession.

            – Gustavson
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          • Correct! I'm not disagreeing with your answer. I just felt a tiny satisfaction finding something of the form Se hizo [alguien].

            – aparente001
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          The answer is no. Those sentences are not usual. Professions involving a course of study will not take verbs like "hacerse" or "volverse". The usual verbs are "llegar a ser" or "recibirse/graduarse de/como":




          • Después de varios años, llegó a ser doctor / se recibió de doctor / se graduó como doctor.


          Occasionaly, "convertirse" can be used. This will suggest a process, a transformation, perhaps similar to "llegar a ser":




          • Después de varios años, se convirtió en doctor.


          "hacerse" can be used to indicate a secondary or auxiliary process, not dependent on education but on experience:




          • Después de un tiempo, se hizo médico de frontera.


          "volverse" will only be used with adjectives or with nouns denoting a quality:




          • Con el tiempo, se volvió un médico famoso / un héroe de la medicina.






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          • I found an exception! Y Dios se hizo hombre.

            – aparente001
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          • @aparente001 "hombre" is not a profession.

            – Gustavson
            1 hour ago











          • Correct! I'm not disagreeing with your answer. I just felt a tiny satisfaction finding something of the form Se hizo [alguien].

            – aparente001
            29 mins ago














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          The answer is no. Those sentences are not usual. Professions involving a course of study will not take verbs like "hacerse" or "volverse". The usual verbs are "llegar a ser" or "recibirse/graduarse de/como":




          • Después de varios años, llegó a ser doctor / se recibió de doctor / se graduó como doctor.


          Occasionaly, "convertirse" can be used. This will suggest a process, a transformation, perhaps similar to "llegar a ser":




          • Después de varios años, se convirtió en doctor.


          "hacerse" can be used to indicate a secondary or auxiliary process, not dependent on education but on experience:




          • Después de un tiempo, se hizo médico de frontera.


          "volverse" will only be used with adjectives or with nouns denoting a quality:




          • Con el tiempo, se volvió un médico famoso / un héroe de la medicina.






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          The answer is no. Those sentences are not usual. Professions involving a course of study will not take verbs like "hacerse" or "volverse". The usual verbs are "llegar a ser" or "recibirse/graduarse de/como":




          • Después de varios años, llegó a ser doctor / se recibió de doctor / se graduó como doctor.


          Occasionaly, "convertirse" can be used. This will suggest a process, a transformation, perhaps similar to "llegar a ser":




          • Después de varios años, se convirtió en doctor.


          "hacerse" can be used to indicate a secondary or auxiliary process, not dependent on education but on experience:




          • Después de un tiempo, se hizo médico de frontera.


          "volverse" will only be used with adjectives or with nouns denoting a quality:




          • Con el tiempo, se volvió un médico famoso / un héroe de la medicina.







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          • I found an exception! Y Dios se hizo hombre.

            – aparente001
            2 hours ago











          • @aparente001 "hombre" is not a profession.

            – Gustavson
            1 hour ago











          • Correct! I'm not disagreeing with your answer. I just felt a tiny satisfaction finding something of the form Se hizo [alguien].

            – aparente001
            29 mins ago



















          • I found an exception! Y Dios se hizo hombre.

            – aparente001
            2 hours ago











          • @aparente001 "hombre" is not a profession.

            – Gustavson
            1 hour ago











          • Correct! I'm not disagreeing with your answer. I just felt a tiny satisfaction finding something of the form Se hizo [alguien].

            – aparente001
            29 mins ago

















          I found an exception! Y Dios se hizo hombre.

          – aparente001
          2 hours ago





          I found an exception! Y Dios se hizo hombre.

          – aparente001
          2 hours ago













          @aparente001 "hombre" is not a profession.

          – Gustavson
          1 hour ago





          @aparente001 "hombre" is not a profession.

          – Gustavson
          1 hour ago













          Correct! I'm not disagreeing with your answer. I just felt a tiny satisfaction finding something of the form Se hizo [alguien].

          – aparente001
          29 mins ago





          Correct! I'm not disagreeing with your answer. I just felt a tiny satisfaction finding something of the form Se hizo [alguien].

          – aparente001
          29 mins ago











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