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Does zapping TV (TeleVision) channels also give an “orthogonal feeling”? What is an “orthogonal feeling” on a Linux TTY (“TeleTYpewriter”)")?


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I stumbled again over this word orthogonal in a surprising context. I opened kernel/tty_io.c in Linux 0.01:



/*
* 'tty_io.c' gives an orthogonal feeling to tty's, be they consoles
* or rs-channels. It also implements echoing, cooked mode etc (well,
* not currently, but ...)
*/


Yes it is old, and today's code has comments about heavy rearrangements. But this "orthogonal", in this context, what does it mean?



What layer does tty_io.c (ie. the use of the functions therein) add to simple consoles or RS-232 channels.



Does zapping TV channels also give an orthogonal feeling?



And if ortho-gonal (right-angled) means in respect to scrolling axis, then it means...what is the word?





In Linux 4.2 it is in drivers/tty/. Only slightly updated.



/*
* 'tty_io.c' gives an orthogonal feeling to tty's, be they consoles
* or rs-channels. It also implements echoing, cooked mode etc.
*
* Kill-line thanks to John T Kohl, who also corrected VMIN = VTIME = 0.
*
* Modified by Theodore Ts'o, 9/14/92, to dynamically allocate the
* tty_struct and tty_queue structures. Previously there was an array
* of 256 tty_struct's which was statically allocated, and the
* tty_queue structures were allocated at boot time. Both are now
* dynamically allocated only when the tty is open.









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  • This is a good Q! Already two anonymous downvotes. With three lines of Linus' enthusiastic comments three decades ago.

    – rastafile
    2 hours ago











  • en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthogonality#Computer_science

    – pizdelect
    2 hours ago











  • @pizdelect ...and? That is another kind of orthogonality. TTY is not a programming languge. Me (and Linux source) are talking about a feeeeling, on a tty, something inherently lacking on channels and consoles. I showed I know my greek. Ortho=straight, right, .... Gonos=corner, angle True I didn't even check on wiki, I know it's ambiguous. But thanks a lot if you mean it as a first clue!

    – rastafile
    2 hours ago











  • The thing itself is sound, but good modular etc. design is not at all TTY specific.

    – rastafile
    2 hours ago











  • "class.c gives a object oriented feeling to variables, be it arrays or hashes" --- no it is not that kind of fake feeling.

    – rastafile
    1 hour ago


















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I stumbled again over this word orthogonal in a surprising context. I opened kernel/tty_io.c in Linux 0.01:



/*
* 'tty_io.c' gives an orthogonal feeling to tty's, be they consoles
* or rs-channels. It also implements echoing, cooked mode etc (well,
* not currently, but ...)
*/


Yes it is old, and today's code has comments about heavy rearrangements. But this "orthogonal", in this context, what does it mean?



What layer does tty_io.c (ie. the use of the functions therein) add to simple consoles or RS-232 channels.



Does zapping TV channels also give an orthogonal feeling?



And if ortho-gonal (right-angled) means in respect to scrolling axis, then it means...what is the word?





In Linux 4.2 it is in drivers/tty/. Only slightly updated.



/*
* 'tty_io.c' gives an orthogonal feeling to tty's, be they consoles
* or rs-channels. It also implements echoing, cooked mode etc.
*
* Kill-line thanks to John T Kohl, who also corrected VMIN = VTIME = 0.
*
* Modified by Theodore Ts'o, 9/14/92, to dynamically allocate the
* tty_struct and tty_queue structures. Previously there was an array
* of 256 tty_struct's which was statically allocated, and the
* tty_queue structures were allocated at boot time. Both are now
* dynamically allocated only when the tty is open.









share|improve this question





























  • This is a good Q! Already two anonymous downvotes. With three lines of Linus' enthusiastic comments three decades ago.

    – rastafile
    2 hours ago











  • en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthogonality#Computer_science

    – pizdelect
    2 hours ago











  • @pizdelect ...and? That is another kind of orthogonality. TTY is not a programming languge. Me (and Linux source) are talking about a feeeeling, on a tty, something inherently lacking on channels and consoles. I showed I know my greek. Ortho=straight, right, .... Gonos=corner, angle True I didn't even check on wiki, I know it's ambiguous. But thanks a lot if you mean it as a first clue!

    – rastafile
    2 hours ago











  • The thing itself is sound, but good modular etc. design is not at all TTY specific.

    – rastafile
    2 hours ago











  • "class.c gives a object oriented feeling to variables, be it arrays or hashes" --- no it is not that kind of fake feeling.

    – rastafile
    1 hour ago














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I stumbled again over this word orthogonal in a surprising context. I opened kernel/tty_io.c in Linux 0.01:



/*
* 'tty_io.c' gives an orthogonal feeling to tty's, be they consoles
* or rs-channels. It also implements echoing, cooked mode etc (well,
* not currently, but ...)
*/


Yes it is old, and today's code has comments about heavy rearrangements. But this "orthogonal", in this context, what does it mean?



What layer does tty_io.c (ie. the use of the functions therein) add to simple consoles or RS-232 channels.



Does zapping TV channels also give an orthogonal feeling?



And if ortho-gonal (right-angled) means in respect to scrolling axis, then it means...what is the word?





In Linux 4.2 it is in drivers/tty/. Only slightly updated.



/*
* 'tty_io.c' gives an orthogonal feeling to tty's, be they consoles
* or rs-channels. It also implements echoing, cooked mode etc.
*
* Kill-line thanks to John T Kohl, who also corrected VMIN = VTIME = 0.
*
* Modified by Theodore Ts'o, 9/14/92, to dynamically allocate the
* tty_struct and tty_queue structures. Previously there was an array
* of 256 tty_struct's which was statically allocated, and the
* tty_queue structures were allocated at boot time. Both are now
* dynamically allocated only when the tty is open.









share|improve this question

















I stumbled again over this word orthogonal in a surprising context. I opened kernel/tty_io.c in Linux 0.01:



/*
* 'tty_io.c' gives an orthogonal feeling to tty's, be they consoles
* or rs-channels. It also implements echoing, cooked mode etc (well,
* not currently, but ...)
*/


Yes it is old, and today's code has comments about heavy rearrangements. But this "orthogonal", in this context, what does it mean?



What layer does tty_io.c (ie. the use of the functions therein) add to simple consoles or RS-232 channels.



Does zapping TV channels also give an orthogonal feeling?



And if ortho-gonal (right-angled) means in respect to scrolling axis, then it means...what is the word?





In Linux 4.2 it is in drivers/tty/. Only slightly updated.



/*
* 'tty_io.c' gives an orthogonal feeling to tty's, be they consoles
* or rs-channels. It also implements echoing, cooked mode etc.
*
* Kill-line thanks to John T Kohl, who also corrected VMIN = VTIME = 0.
*
* Modified by Theodore Ts'o, 9/14/92, to dynamically allocate the
* tty_struct and tty_queue structures. Previously there was an array
* of 256 tty_struct's which was statically allocated, and the
* tty_queue structures were allocated at boot time. Both are now
* dynamically allocated only when the tty is open.






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  • This is a good Q! Already two anonymous downvotes. With three lines of Linus' enthusiastic comments three decades ago.

    – rastafile
    2 hours ago











  • en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthogonality#Computer_science

    – pizdelect
    2 hours ago











  • @pizdelect ...and? That is another kind of orthogonality. TTY is not a programming languge. Me (and Linux source) are talking about a feeeeling, on a tty, something inherently lacking on channels and consoles. I showed I know my greek. Ortho=straight, right, .... Gonos=corner, angle True I didn't even check on wiki, I know it's ambiguous. But thanks a lot if you mean it as a first clue!

    – rastafile
    2 hours ago











  • The thing itself is sound, but good modular etc. design is not at all TTY specific.

    – rastafile
    2 hours ago











  • "class.c gives a object oriented feeling to variables, be it arrays or hashes" --- no it is not that kind of fake feeling.

    – rastafile
    1 hour ago



















  • This is a good Q! Already two anonymous downvotes. With three lines of Linus' enthusiastic comments three decades ago.

    – rastafile
    2 hours ago











  • en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthogonality#Computer_science

    – pizdelect
    2 hours ago











  • @pizdelect ...and? That is another kind of orthogonality. TTY is not a programming languge. Me (and Linux source) are talking about a feeeeling, on a tty, something inherently lacking on channels and consoles. I showed I know my greek. Ortho=straight, right, .... Gonos=corner, angle True I didn't even check on wiki, I know it's ambiguous. But thanks a lot if you mean it as a first clue!

    – rastafile
    2 hours ago











  • The thing itself is sound, but good modular etc. design is not at all TTY specific.

    – rastafile
    2 hours ago











  • "class.c gives a object oriented feeling to variables, be it arrays or hashes" --- no it is not that kind of fake feeling.

    – rastafile
    1 hour ago

















This is a good Q! Already two anonymous downvotes. With three lines of Linus' enthusiastic comments three decades ago.

– rastafile
2 hours ago





This is a good Q! Already two anonymous downvotes. With three lines of Linus' enthusiastic comments three decades ago.

– rastafile
2 hours ago













en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthogonality#Computer_science

– pizdelect
2 hours ago





en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthogonality#Computer_science

– pizdelect
2 hours ago













@pizdelect ...and? That is another kind of orthogonality. TTY is not a programming languge. Me (and Linux source) are talking about a feeeeling, on a tty, something inherently lacking on channels and consoles. I showed I know my greek. Ortho=straight, right, .... Gonos=corner, angle True I didn't even check on wiki, I know it's ambiguous. But thanks a lot if you mean it as a first clue!

– rastafile
2 hours ago





@pizdelect ...and? That is another kind of orthogonality. TTY is not a programming languge. Me (and Linux source) are talking about a feeeeling, on a tty, something inherently lacking on channels and consoles. I showed I know my greek. Ortho=straight, right, .... Gonos=corner, angle True I didn't even check on wiki, I know it's ambiguous. But thanks a lot if you mean it as a first clue!

– rastafile
2 hours ago













The thing itself is sound, but good modular etc. design is not at all TTY specific.

– rastafile
2 hours ago





The thing itself is sound, but good modular etc. design is not at all TTY specific.

– rastafile
2 hours ago













"class.c gives a object oriented feeling to variables, be it arrays or hashes" --- no it is not that kind of fake feeling.

– rastafile
1 hour ago





"class.c gives a object oriented feeling to variables, be it arrays or hashes" --- no it is not that kind of fake feeling.

– rastafile
1 hour ago










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