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I stumbled again over this word orthogonal in a surprising context. I opened kernel/tty_io.c
in Linux 0.01:
/*
* 'tty_io.c' gives an orthogonal feeling to tty's, be they consoles
* or rs-channels. It also implements echoing, cooked mode etc (well,
* not currently, but ...)
*/
Yes it is old, and today's code has comments about heavy rearrangements. But this "orthogonal", in this context, what does it mean?
What layer does tty_io.c
(ie. the use of the functions therein) add to simple consoles
or RS-232 channels
.
Does zapping TV channels also give an orthogonal feeling?
And if ortho-gonal (right-angled) means in respect to scrolling axis, then it means...what is the word?
In Linux 4.2 it is in drivers/tty/
. Only slightly updated.
/*
* 'tty_io.c' gives an orthogonal feeling to tty's, be they consoles
* or rs-channels. It also implements echoing, cooked mode etc.
*
* Kill-line thanks to John T Kohl, who also corrected VMIN = VTIME = 0.
*
* Modified by Theodore Ts'o, 9/14/92, to dynamically allocate the
* tty_struct and tty_queue structures. Previously there was an array
* of 256 tty_struct's which was statically allocated, and the
* tty_queue structures were allocated at boot time. Both are now
* dynamically allocated only when the tty is open.
terminal kernel tty io terminology
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I stumbled again over this word orthogonal in a surprising context. I opened kernel/tty_io.c
in Linux 0.01:
/*
* 'tty_io.c' gives an orthogonal feeling to tty's, be they consoles
* or rs-channels. It also implements echoing, cooked mode etc (well,
* not currently, but ...)
*/
Yes it is old, and today's code has comments about heavy rearrangements. But this "orthogonal", in this context, what does it mean?
What layer does tty_io.c
(ie. the use of the functions therein) add to simple consoles
or RS-232 channels
.
Does zapping TV channels also give an orthogonal feeling?
And if ortho-gonal (right-angled) means in respect to scrolling axis, then it means...what is the word?
In Linux 4.2 it is in drivers/tty/
. Only slightly updated.
/*
* 'tty_io.c' gives an orthogonal feeling to tty's, be they consoles
* or rs-channels. It also implements echoing, cooked mode etc.
*
* Kill-line thanks to John T Kohl, who also corrected VMIN = VTIME = 0.
*
* Modified by Theodore Ts'o, 9/14/92, to dynamically allocate the
* tty_struct and tty_queue structures. Previously there was an array
* of 256 tty_struct's which was statically allocated, and the
* tty_queue structures were allocated at boot time. Both are now
* dynamically allocated only when the tty is open.
terminal kernel tty io terminology
This is a good Q! Already two anonymous downvotes. With three lines of Linus' enthusiastic comments three decades ago.
– rastafile
2 hours ago
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthogonality#Computer_science
– pizdelect
2 hours ago
@pizdelect ...and? That is another kind of orthogonality. TTY is not a programming languge. Me (and Linux source) are talking about a feeeeling, on a tty, something inherently lacking on channels and consoles. I showed I know my greek. Ortho=straight, right, .... Gonos=corner, angle True I didn't even check on wiki, I know it's ambiguous. But thanks a lot if you mean it as a first clue!
– rastafile
2 hours ago
The thing itself is sound, but good modular etc. design is not at all TTY specific.
– rastafile
2 hours ago
"class.c gives a object oriented feeling to variables, be it arrays or hashes" --- no it is not that kind of fake feeling.
– rastafile
1 hour ago
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I stumbled again over this word orthogonal in a surprising context. I opened kernel/tty_io.c
in Linux 0.01:
/*
* 'tty_io.c' gives an orthogonal feeling to tty's, be they consoles
* or rs-channels. It also implements echoing, cooked mode etc (well,
* not currently, but ...)
*/
Yes it is old, and today's code has comments about heavy rearrangements. But this "orthogonal", in this context, what does it mean?
What layer does tty_io.c
(ie. the use of the functions therein) add to simple consoles
or RS-232 channels
.
Does zapping TV channels also give an orthogonal feeling?
And if ortho-gonal (right-angled) means in respect to scrolling axis, then it means...what is the word?
In Linux 4.2 it is in drivers/tty/
. Only slightly updated.
/*
* 'tty_io.c' gives an orthogonal feeling to tty's, be they consoles
* or rs-channels. It also implements echoing, cooked mode etc.
*
* Kill-line thanks to John T Kohl, who also corrected VMIN = VTIME = 0.
*
* Modified by Theodore Ts'o, 9/14/92, to dynamically allocate the
* tty_struct and tty_queue structures. Previously there was an array
* of 256 tty_struct's which was statically allocated, and the
* tty_queue structures were allocated at boot time. Both are now
* dynamically allocated only when the tty is open.
terminal kernel tty io terminology
I stumbled again over this word orthogonal in a surprising context. I opened kernel/tty_io.c
in Linux 0.01:
/*
* 'tty_io.c' gives an orthogonal feeling to tty's, be they consoles
* or rs-channels. It also implements echoing, cooked mode etc (well,
* not currently, but ...)
*/
Yes it is old, and today's code has comments about heavy rearrangements. But this "orthogonal", in this context, what does it mean?
What layer does tty_io.c
(ie. the use of the functions therein) add to simple consoles
or RS-232 channels
.
Does zapping TV channels also give an orthogonal feeling?
And if ortho-gonal (right-angled) means in respect to scrolling axis, then it means...what is the word?
In Linux 4.2 it is in drivers/tty/
. Only slightly updated.
/*
* 'tty_io.c' gives an orthogonal feeling to tty's, be they consoles
* or rs-channels. It also implements echoing, cooked mode etc.
*
* Kill-line thanks to John T Kohl, who also corrected VMIN = VTIME = 0.
*
* Modified by Theodore Ts'o, 9/14/92, to dynamically allocate the
* tty_struct and tty_queue structures. Previously there was an array
* of 256 tty_struct's which was statically allocated, and the
* tty_queue structures were allocated at boot time. Both are now
* dynamically allocated only when the tty is open.
terminal kernel tty io terminology
terminal kernel tty io terminology
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This is a good Q! Already two anonymous downvotes. With three lines of Linus' enthusiastic comments three decades ago.
– rastafile
2 hours ago
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthogonality#Computer_science
– pizdelect
2 hours ago
@pizdelect ...and? That is another kind of orthogonality. TTY is not a programming languge. Me (and Linux source) are talking about a feeeeling, on a tty, something inherently lacking on channels and consoles. I showed I know my greek. Ortho=straight, right, .... Gonos=corner, angle True I didn't even check on wiki, I know it's ambiguous. But thanks a lot if you mean it as a first clue!
– rastafile
2 hours ago
The thing itself is sound, but good modular etc. design is not at all TTY specific.
– rastafile
2 hours ago
"class.c gives a object oriented feeling to variables, be it arrays or hashes" --- no it is not that kind of fake feeling.
– rastafile
1 hour ago
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This is a good Q! Already two anonymous downvotes. With three lines of Linus' enthusiastic comments three decades ago.
– rastafile
2 hours ago
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthogonality#Computer_science
– pizdelect
2 hours ago
@pizdelect ...and? That is another kind of orthogonality. TTY is not a programming languge. Me (and Linux source) are talking about a feeeeling, on a tty, something inherently lacking on channels and consoles. I showed I know my greek. Ortho=straight, right, .... Gonos=corner, angle True I didn't even check on wiki, I know it's ambiguous. But thanks a lot if you mean it as a first clue!
– rastafile
2 hours ago
The thing itself is sound, but good modular etc. design is not at all TTY specific.
– rastafile
2 hours ago
"class.c gives a object oriented feeling to variables, be it arrays or hashes" --- no it is not that kind of fake feeling.
– rastafile
1 hour ago
This is a good Q! Already two anonymous downvotes. With three lines of Linus' enthusiastic comments three decades ago.
– rastafile
2 hours ago
This is a good Q! Already two anonymous downvotes. With three lines of Linus' enthusiastic comments three decades ago.
– rastafile
2 hours ago
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthogonality#Computer_science
– pizdelect
2 hours ago
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthogonality#Computer_science
– pizdelect
2 hours ago
@pizdelect ...and? That is another kind of orthogonality. TTY is not a programming languge. Me (and Linux source) are talking about a feeeeling, on a tty, something inherently lacking on channels and consoles. I showed I know my greek. Ortho=straight, right, .... Gonos=corner, angle True I didn't even check on wiki, I know it's ambiguous. But thanks a lot if you mean it as a first clue!
– rastafile
2 hours ago
@pizdelect ...and? That is another kind of orthogonality. TTY is not a programming languge. Me (and Linux source) are talking about a feeeeling, on a tty, something inherently lacking on channels and consoles. I showed I know my greek. Ortho=straight, right, .... Gonos=corner, angle True I didn't even check on wiki, I know it's ambiguous. But thanks a lot if you mean it as a first clue!
– rastafile
2 hours ago
The thing itself is sound, but good modular etc. design is not at all TTY specific.
– rastafile
2 hours ago
The thing itself is sound, but good modular etc. design is not at all TTY specific.
– rastafile
2 hours ago
"class.c gives a object oriented feeling to variables, be it arrays or hashes" --- no it is not that kind of fake feeling.
– rastafile
1 hour ago
"class.c gives a object oriented feeling to variables, be it arrays or hashes" --- no it is not that kind of fake feeling.
– rastafile
1 hour ago
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This is a good Q! Already two anonymous downvotes. With three lines of Linus' enthusiastic comments three decades ago.
– rastafile
2 hours ago
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthogonality#Computer_science
– pizdelect
2 hours ago
@pizdelect ...and? That is another kind of orthogonality. TTY is not a programming languge. Me (and Linux source) are talking about a feeeeling, on a tty, something inherently lacking on channels and consoles. I showed I know my greek. Ortho=straight, right, .... Gonos=corner, angle True I didn't even check on wiki, I know it's ambiguous. But thanks a lot if you mean it as a first clue!
– rastafile
2 hours ago
The thing itself is sound, but good modular etc. design is not at all TTY specific.
– rastafile
2 hours ago
"class.c gives a object oriented feeling to variables, be it arrays or hashes" --- no it is not that kind of fake feeling.
– rastafile
1 hour ago