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Find limit in use of integrals
how to find the limit?Find limit $lim_{x rightarrow 0} , frac{arctan(3x)}{tanbig((x+3pi)/3big)}$ without using L'Hospital's rulemathematical analysisLimit of a complex sequenceUsing the mean value theorem calculate this limit : $lim_{x rightarrow 0} frac{arctan(x^2+x-1)+frac{pi}{4}}{x^2+3x}$Limit of a definite integral with parameter (2)Limit of $(intlimits_0^n (1+arctan^2x ),dx )^ {frac{1}{n}}$limit of and integral depending on nA tricky limit involving exponential integralsFind limit supremum from 3 sequence theorem
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Find limit $lim_{n rightarrow infty} int_{-1}^{1} x^5 cdot arctan{(nx)} dx $
From mean-value-theorem we have
$$ frac{1}{2} c^5 cdot arctan{(nc)} mbox{ for some c } in (-1,1) $$
$$ underbrace{frac{1}{2} cdot arctan{(-n)}}_{rightarrow - pi /4} le frac{1}{2} c^5 cdot arctan{(nc)} le underbrace{frac{1}{2} cdot arctan{(n)}}_{rightarrow pi /4} $$
so this bounding doesn't help me. Has somebody better idea how to bound that?
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Find limit $lim_{n rightarrow infty} int_{-1}^{1} x^5 cdot arctan{(nx)} dx $
From mean-value-theorem we have
$$ frac{1}{2} c^5 cdot arctan{(nc)} mbox{ for some c } in (-1,1) $$
$$ underbrace{frac{1}{2} cdot arctan{(-n)}}_{rightarrow - pi /4} le frac{1}{2} c^5 cdot arctan{(nc)} le underbrace{frac{1}{2} cdot arctan{(n)}}_{rightarrow pi /4} $$
so this bounding doesn't help me. Has somebody better idea how to bound that?
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Is there a reason to not just do the integration?
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Find limit $lim_{n rightarrow infty} int_{-1}^{1} x^5 cdot arctan{(nx)} dx $
From mean-value-theorem we have
$$ frac{1}{2} c^5 cdot arctan{(nc)} mbox{ for some c } in (-1,1) $$
$$ underbrace{frac{1}{2} cdot arctan{(-n)}}_{rightarrow - pi /4} le frac{1}{2} c^5 cdot arctan{(nc)} le underbrace{frac{1}{2} cdot arctan{(n)}}_{rightarrow pi /4} $$
so this bounding doesn't help me. Has somebody better idea how to bound that?
integration limits
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Find limit $lim_{n rightarrow infty} int_{-1}^{1} x^5 cdot arctan{(nx)} dx $
From mean-value-theorem we have
$$ frac{1}{2} c^5 cdot arctan{(nc)} mbox{ for some c } in (-1,1) $$
$$ underbrace{frac{1}{2} cdot arctan{(-n)}}_{rightarrow - pi /4} le frac{1}{2} c^5 cdot arctan{(nc)} le underbrace{frac{1}{2} cdot arctan{(n)}}_{rightarrow pi /4} $$
so this bounding doesn't help me. Has somebody better idea how to bound that?
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We'll simplify with $y=nx$. Integration by parts gives $$int y^5arctan ydy=frac{y^{6}}{6}arctan y-frac{1}{6}intfrac{y^{6}}{1+y^{2}}dy\=frac{y^{6}}{6}arctan y-frac{1}{6}intleft(y^{4}-y^{2}+1-frac{1}{1+y^{2}}right)dy\=frac{y^6+1}{6}arctan y-frac{1}{30}y^5+frac{1}{18}y^3-frac16 y+C.$$Hence $$frac{1}{n^6}int_{-n}^n y^5arctan ydy=frac{frac{n^6}{3}arctan n+o(n^6)}{n^6}stackrel{ntoinfty}{to}frac{1}{3}arctaninfty=frac{pi}{6}.$$But it seems such a shame to compute the antiderivative's irrelevant polynomial terms. So for an alternative strategy, let's write the problem as $2lim_{ntoinfty}int_0^1 x^5arctan nxdx$ (since the integrand is even), which by dominated convergence is $$piint_0^1 x^5dx=frac{pi}{6}.$$
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Hint: For the integral $$int_{-1}^{1}x^5arctan(nx)dx$$ we get
$$frac{15 left(n^6+1right) tan ^{-1}(n)-3 n^5+5
n^3-15 n}{45 n^6}$$
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When I am doing integration I stuck there $int x^6/(n^2cdot x^2 +1)$
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Partial fractions, @Trebacz112
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Hint: $$frac{x^6}{n^2x^2+1}={frac {{x}^{4}}{{n}^{2}}}-{frac {{x}^{2}}{{n}^{4}}}+{n}^{-6}-{frac {1}{{n}^{6} left( {n}^{2}{x}^{2}+1 right) }} $$
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We'll simplify with $y=nx$. Integration by parts gives $$int y^5arctan ydy=frac{y^{6}}{6}arctan y-frac{1}{6}intfrac{y^{6}}{1+y^{2}}dy\=frac{y^{6}}{6}arctan y-frac{1}{6}intleft(y^{4}-y^{2}+1-frac{1}{1+y^{2}}right)dy\=frac{y^6+1}{6}arctan y-frac{1}{30}y^5+frac{1}{18}y^3-frac16 y+C.$$Hence $$frac{1}{n^6}int_{-n}^n y^5arctan ydy=frac{frac{n^6}{3}arctan n+o(n^6)}{n^6}stackrel{ntoinfty}{to}frac{1}{3}arctaninfty=frac{pi}{6}.$$But it seems such a shame to compute the antiderivative's irrelevant polynomial terms. So for an alternative strategy, let's write the problem as $2lim_{ntoinfty}int_0^1 x^5arctan nxdx$ (since the integrand is even), which by dominated convergence is $$piint_0^1 x^5dx=frac{pi}{6}.$$
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We'll simplify with $y=nx$. Integration by parts gives $$int y^5arctan ydy=frac{y^{6}}{6}arctan y-frac{1}{6}intfrac{y^{6}}{1+y^{2}}dy\=frac{y^{6}}{6}arctan y-frac{1}{6}intleft(y^{4}-y^{2}+1-frac{1}{1+y^{2}}right)dy\=frac{y^6+1}{6}arctan y-frac{1}{30}y^5+frac{1}{18}y^3-frac16 y+C.$$Hence $$frac{1}{n^6}int_{-n}^n y^5arctan ydy=frac{frac{n^6}{3}arctan n+o(n^6)}{n^6}stackrel{ntoinfty}{to}frac{1}{3}arctaninfty=frac{pi}{6}.$$But it seems such a shame to compute the antiderivative's irrelevant polynomial terms. So for an alternative strategy, let's write the problem as $2lim_{ntoinfty}int_0^1 x^5arctan nxdx$ (since the integrand is even), which by dominated convergence is $$piint_0^1 x^5dx=frac{pi}{6}.$$
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We'll simplify with $y=nx$. Integration by parts gives $$int y^5arctan ydy=frac{y^{6}}{6}arctan y-frac{1}{6}intfrac{y^{6}}{1+y^{2}}dy\=frac{y^{6}}{6}arctan y-frac{1}{6}intleft(y^{4}-y^{2}+1-frac{1}{1+y^{2}}right)dy\=frac{y^6+1}{6}arctan y-frac{1}{30}y^5+frac{1}{18}y^3-frac16 y+C.$$Hence $$frac{1}{n^6}int_{-n}^n y^5arctan ydy=frac{frac{n^6}{3}arctan n+o(n^6)}{n^6}stackrel{ntoinfty}{to}frac{1}{3}arctaninfty=frac{pi}{6}.$$But it seems such a shame to compute the antiderivative's irrelevant polynomial terms. So for an alternative strategy, let's write the problem as $2lim_{ntoinfty}int_0^1 x^5arctan nxdx$ (since the integrand is even), which by dominated convergence is $$piint_0^1 x^5dx=frac{pi}{6}.$$
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We'll simplify with $y=nx$. Integration by parts gives $$int y^5arctan ydy=frac{y^{6}}{6}arctan y-frac{1}{6}intfrac{y^{6}}{1+y^{2}}dy\=frac{y^{6}}{6}arctan y-frac{1}{6}intleft(y^{4}-y^{2}+1-frac{1}{1+y^{2}}right)dy\=frac{y^6+1}{6}arctan y-frac{1}{30}y^5+frac{1}{18}y^3-frac16 y+C.$$Hence $$frac{1}{n^6}int_{-n}^n y^5arctan ydy=frac{frac{n^6}{3}arctan n+o(n^6)}{n^6}stackrel{ntoinfty}{to}frac{1}{3}arctaninfty=frac{pi}{6}.$$But it seems such a shame to compute the antiderivative's irrelevant polynomial terms. So for an alternative strategy, let's write the problem as $2lim_{ntoinfty}int_0^1 x^5arctan nxdx$ (since the integrand is even), which by dominated convergence is $$piint_0^1 x^5dx=frac{pi}{6}.$$
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Hint: For the integral $$int_{-1}^{1}x^5arctan(nx)dx$$ we get
$$frac{15 left(n^6+1right) tan ^{-1}(n)-3 n^5+5
n^3-15 n}{45 n^6}$$
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When I am doing integration I stuck there $int x^6/(n^2cdot x^2 +1)$
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– Trebacz112
8 hours ago
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Partial fractions, @Trebacz112
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– Clayton
8 hours ago
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Hint: $$frac{x^6}{n^2x^2+1}={frac {{x}^{4}}{{n}^{2}}}-{frac {{x}^{2}}{{n}^{4}}}+{n}^{-6}-{frac {1}{{n}^{6} left( {n}^{2}{x}^{2}+1 right) }} $$
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Hint: For the integral $$int_{-1}^{1}x^5arctan(nx)dx$$ we get
$$frac{15 left(n^6+1right) tan ^{-1}(n)-3 n^5+5
n^3-15 n}{45 n^6}$$
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$begingroup$
When I am doing integration I stuck there $int x^6/(n^2cdot x^2 +1)$
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– Trebacz112
8 hours ago
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Partial fractions, @Trebacz112
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– Clayton
8 hours ago
1
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Hint: $$frac{x^6}{n^2x^2+1}={frac {{x}^{4}}{{n}^{2}}}-{frac {{x}^{2}}{{n}^{4}}}+{n}^{-6}-{frac {1}{{n}^{6} left( {n}^{2}{x}^{2}+1 right) }} $$
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8 hours ago
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Hint: For the integral $$int_{-1}^{1}x^5arctan(nx)dx$$ we get
$$frac{15 left(n^6+1right) tan ^{-1}(n)-3 n^5+5
n^3-15 n}{45 n^6}$$
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Hint: For the integral $$int_{-1}^{1}x^5arctan(nx)dx$$ we get
$$frac{15 left(n^6+1right) tan ^{-1}(n)-3 n^5+5
n^3-15 n}{45 n^6}$$
answered 8 hours ago
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When I am doing integration I stuck there $int x^6/(n^2cdot x^2 +1)$
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– Trebacz112
8 hours ago
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Partial fractions, @Trebacz112
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– Clayton
8 hours ago
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Hint: $$frac{x^6}{n^2x^2+1}={frac {{x}^{4}}{{n}^{2}}}-{frac {{x}^{2}}{{n}^{4}}}+{n}^{-6}-{frac {1}{{n}^{6} left( {n}^{2}{x}^{2}+1 right) }} $$
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When I am doing integration I stuck there $int x^6/(n^2cdot x^2 +1)$
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– Trebacz112
8 hours ago
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Partial fractions, @Trebacz112
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– Clayton
8 hours ago
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Hint: $$frac{x^6}{n^2x^2+1}={frac {{x}^{4}}{{n}^{2}}}-{frac {{x}^{2}}{{n}^{4}}}+{n}^{-6}-{frac {1}{{n}^{6} left( {n}^{2}{x}^{2}+1 right) }} $$
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– Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
8 hours ago
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When I am doing integration I stuck there $int x^6/(n^2cdot x^2 +1)$
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– Trebacz112
8 hours ago
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When I am doing integration I stuck there $int x^6/(n^2cdot x^2 +1)$
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– Trebacz112
8 hours ago
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Partial fractions, @Trebacz112
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– Clayton
8 hours ago
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Partial fractions, @Trebacz112
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– Clayton
8 hours ago
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Hint: $$frac{x^6}{n^2x^2+1}={frac {{x}^{4}}{{n}^{2}}}-{frac {{x}^{2}}{{n}^{4}}}+{n}^{-6}-{frac {1}{{n}^{6} left( {n}^{2}{x}^{2}+1 right) }} $$
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Hint: $$frac{x^6}{n^2x^2+1}={frac {{x}^{4}}{{n}^{2}}}-{frac {{x}^{2}}{{n}^{4}}}+{n}^{-6}-{frac {1}{{n}^{6} left( {n}^{2}{x}^{2}+1 right) }} $$
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