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Do you need type ratings for private flying?
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This question popped into my head when I learned some Citation X series have shared (?) type ratings.
So a theoretical situation:
I am a happy person with PPL and IFR ratings and then I decide to rent a 737-800 to give a birthday party to a close friend.
Can I just charter a private jet (assuming I am lucky enough to find a company that will give one to me) and fly? Do civilians need type ratings? I have heard you need a type rating to be the pilot in command. (It wouldn't be hard to find a pilot if that is the case.)
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This question popped into my head when I learned some Citation X series have shared (?) type ratings.
So a theoretical situation:
I am a happy person with PPL and IFR ratings and then I decide to rent a 737-800 to give a birthday party to a close friend.
Can I just charter a private jet (assuming I am lucky enough to find a company that will give one to me) and fly? Do civilians need type ratings? I have heard you need a type rating to be the pilot in command. (It wouldn't be hard to find a pilot if that is the case.)
faa-regulations airman-certification type-ratings
edited 7 hours ago
Pondlife
53.2k10146303
asked 8 hours ago
Jonathan IronsJonathan Irons
1,46711132
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add a comment |
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This question popped into my head when I learned some Citation X series have shared (?) type ratings.
So a theoretical situation:
I am a happy person with PPL and IFR ratings and then I decide to rent a 737-800 to give a birthday party to a close friend.
Can I just charter a private jet (assuming I am lucky enough to find a company that will give one to me) and fly? Do civilians need type ratings? I have heard you need a type rating to be the pilot in command. (It wouldn't be hard to find a pilot if that is the case.)
faa-regulations airman-certification type-ratings
edited 7 hours ago
Pondlife
53.2k10146303
asked 8 hours ago
Jonathan IronsJonathan Irons
1,46711132
$endgroup$
This question popped into my head when I learned some Citation X series have shared (?) type ratings.
So a theoretical situation:
I am a happy person with PPL and IFR ratings and then I decide to rent a 737-800 to give a birthday party to a close friend.
Can I just charter a private jet (assuming I am lucky enough to find a company that will give one to me) and fly? Do civilians need type ratings? I have heard you need a type rating to be the pilot in command. (It wouldn't be hard to find a pilot if that is the case.)
faa-regulations airman-certification type-ratings
faa-regulations airman-certification type-ratings
edited 7 hours ago
Pondlife
53.2k10146303
asked 8 hours ago
Jonathan IronsJonathan Irons
1,46711132
edited 7 hours ago
Pondlife
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asked 8 hours ago
Jonathan IronsJonathan Irons
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edited 7 hours ago
Pondlife
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Pondlife
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Pondlife
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asked 8 hours ago
Jonathan IronsJonathan Irons
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In addition to a type rating, you cannot fly a 737 without a commercial pilot's license and 1,200 flight hours. Further, your flight and maintenance operation must be certificated by the FAA. You'll need FAA approved opspecs, flight manuals, pilot training and testing, a drug test program, hazmat program, a designated safety manager, and more.
Aircraft with 20 or more passenger seats, or 6,000 lbs payload capacity must be either flown under Part 121 air carrier rules or else they fall under Part 125 regulation. Except for limited circumstances, they cannot be operated under Part 91.
Once the aircraft is large enough, there is no longer a distinction between private and commercial operation, Part 125 covers commercial operations short of common carriage. Even if you're operating an aircraft privately (like John Travolta and his 707), you have to comply with commercial level safety requirements.
answered 7 hours ago
user71659user71659
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Is the 1,200 hours related to a frozen ATPL? I'm guessing a cargo 737 with no passengers wouldn't require any sort of ATPL so it would be a type-related requirement???
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– Dave Gremlin
4 hours ago
add a comment |
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You would most certainly need a type rating to fly a 737. Any turbine powered airplane or aircraft gross weight greater than 12,500 lbs requires a type rating.
In this case, you will need quite a bit of extra training to fly a 737, pass a practical test to earn a type rating.
§61.31 Type rating requirements, additional training, and authorization requirements.
(a) Type ratings required. A person who acts as a pilot in command of any of the following aircraft must hold a type rating for that aircraft:
(1) Large aircraft (except lighter-than-air).
(2) Turbojet-powered airplanes.
(3) Other aircraft specified by the Administrator through aircraft type certificate procedures.
Large aircraft means aircraft of more than 12,500 pounds, maximum certificated takeoff weight.
Part 1.1: Large aircraft means aircraft of more than 12,500 pounds, maximum certificated takeoff weight.
answered 8 hours ago
wbeard52wbeard52
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Also, I doubt that you could legally fly a 737 with just a single pilot.
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– jamesqf
8 hours ago
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ATP also requires type ratings.
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– wbeard52
8 hours ago
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@JonathanIrons IFR doesn’t require two pilots. The operation or aircraft may require two pilots.
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– wbeard52
8 hours ago
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@wbeard52 I'm not sure what you mean, but I don't think there any requirement to have a type rating in order to get an ATP. You can get a single-engine ATP in a light single if you really want to.
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– Pondlife
7 hours ago
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Type ratings are tested to ATP standards, so if you have the hours, you might as well pick up your ATP while you're at it.
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– StephenS
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In addition to a type rating, you cannot fly a 737 without a commercial pilot's license and 1,200 flight hours. Further, your flight and maintenance operation must be certificated by the FAA. You'll need FAA approved opspecs, flight manuals, pilot training and testing, a drug test program, hazmat program, a designated safety manager, and more.
Aircraft with 20 or more passenger seats, or 6,000 lbs payload capacity must be either flown under Part 121 air carrier rules or else they fall under Part 125 regulation. Except for limited circumstances, they cannot be operated under Part 91.
Once the aircraft is large enough, there is no longer a distinction between private and commercial operation, Part 125 covers commercial operations short of common carriage. Even if you're operating an aircraft privately (like John Travolta and his 707), you have to comply with commercial level safety requirements.
answered 7 hours ago
user71659user71659
4,61711130
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Is the 1,200 hours related to a frozen ATPL? I'm guessing a cargo 737 with no passengers wouldn't require any sort of ATPL so it would be a type-related requirement???
$endgroup$
– Dave Gremlin
4 hours ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
In addition to a type rating, you cannot fly a 737 without a commercial pilot's license and 1,200 flight hours. Further, your flight and maintenance operation must be certificated by the FAA. You'll need FAA approved opspecs, flight manuals, pilot training and testing, a drug test program, hazmat program, a designated safety manager, and more.
Aircraft with 20 or more passenger seats, or 6,000 lbs payload capacity must be either flown under Part 121 air carrier rules or else they fall under Part 125 regulation. Except for limited circumstances, they cannot be operated under Part 91.
Once the aircraft is large enough, there is no longer a distinction between private and commercial operation, Part 125 covers commercial operations short of common carriage. Even if you're operating an aircraft privately (like John Travolta and his 707), you have to comply with commercial level safety requirements.
answered 7 hours ago
user71659user71659
4,61711130
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
Is the 1,200 hours related to a frozen ATPL? I'm guessing a cargo 737 with no passengers wouldn't require any sort of ATPL so it would be a type-related requirement???
$endgroup$
– Dave Gremlin
4 hours ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
In addition to a type rating, you cannot fly a 737 without a commercial pilot's license and 1,200 flight hours. Further, your flight and maintenance operation must be certificated by the FAA. You'll need FAA approved opspecs, flight manuals, pilot training and testing, a drug test program, hazmat program, a designated safety manager, and more.
Aircraft with 20 or more passenger seats, or 6,000 lbs payload capacity must be either flown under Part 121 air carrier rules or else they fall under Part 125 regulation. Except for limited circumstances, they cannot be operated under Part 91.
Once the aircraft is large enough, there is no longer a distinction between private and commercial operation, Part 125 covers commercial operations short of common carriage. Even if you're operating an aircraft privately (like John Travolta and his 707), you have to comply with commercial level safety requirements.
answered 7 hours ago
user71659user71659
4,61711130
$endgroup$
In addition to a type rating, you cannot fly a 737 without a commercial pilot's license and 1,200 flight hours. Further, your flight and maintenance operation must be certificated by the FAA. You'll need FAA approved opspecs, flight manuals, pilot training and testing, a drug test program, hazmat program, a designated safety manager, and more.
Aircraft with 20 or more passenger seats, or 6,000 lbs payload capacity must be either flown under Part 121 air carrier rules or else they fall under Part 125 regulation. Except for limited circumstances, they cannot be operated under Part 91.
Once the aircraft is large enough, there is no longer a distinction between private and commercial operation, Part 125 covers commercial operations short of common carriage. Even if you're operating an aircraft privately (like John Travolta and his 707), you have to comply with commercial level safety requirements.
answered 7 hours ago
user71659user71659
4,61711130
answered 7 hours ago
user71659user71659
4,61711130
answered 7 hours ago
user71659user71659
4,61711130
answered 7 hours ago
user71659user71659
4,61711130
4,61711130
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Is the 1,200 hours related to a frozen ATPL? I'm guessing a cargo 737 with no passengers wouldn't require any sort of ATPL so it would be a type-related requirement???
$endgroup$
– Dave Gremlin
4 hours ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Is the 1,200 hours related to a frozen ATPL? I'm guessing a cargo 737 with no passengers wouldn't require any sort of ATPL so it would be a type-related requirement???
$endgroup$
– Dave Gremlin
4 hours ago
$begingroup$
Is the 1,200 hours related to a frozen ATPL? I'm guessing a cargo 737 with no passengers wouldn't require any sort of ATPL so it would be a type-related requirement???
$endgroup$
– Dave Gremlin
4 hours ago
$begingroup$
Is the 1,200 hours related to a frozen ATPL? I'm guessing a cargo 737 with no passengers wouldn't require any sort of ATPL so it would be a type-related requirement???
$endgroup$
– Dave Gremlin
4 hours ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
You would most certainly need a type rating to fly a 737. Any turbine powered airplane or aircraft gross weight greater than 12,500 lbs requires a type rating.
In this case, you will need quite a bit of extra training to fly a 737, pass a practical test to earn a type rating.
§61.31 Type rating requirements, additional training, and authorization requirements.
(a) Type ratings required. A person who acts as a pilot in command of any of the following aircraft must hold a type rating for that aircraft:
(1) Large aircraft (except lighter-than-air).
(2) Turbojet-powered airplanes.
(3) Other aircraft specified by the Administrator through aircraft type certificate procedures.
Large aircraft means aircraft of more than 12,500 pounds, maximum certificated takeoff weight.
Part 1.1: Large aircraft means aircraft of more than 12,500 pounds, maximum certificated takeoff weight.
answered 8 hours ago
wbeard52wbeard52
6,72432156
$endgroup$
1
$begingroup$
Also, I doubt that you could legally fly a 737 with just a single pilot.
$endgroup$
– jamesqf
8 hours ago
1
$begingroup$
ATP also requires type ratings.
$endgroup$
– wbeard52
8 hours ago
2
$begingroup$
@JonathanIrons IFR doesn’t require two pilots. The operation or aircraft may require two pilots.
$endgroup$
– wbeard52
8 hours ago
2
$begingroup$
@wbeard52 I'm not sure what you mean, but I don't think there any requirement to have a type rating in order to get an ATP. You can get a single-engine ATP in a light single if you really want to.
$endgroup$
– Pondlife
7 hours ago
1
$begingroup$
Type ratings are tested to ATP standards, so if you have the hours, you might as well pick up your ATP while you're at it.
$endgroup$
– StephenS
7 hours ago
|
show 3 more comments
$begingroup$
You would most certainly need a type rating to fly a 737. Any turbine powered airplane or aircraft gross weight greater than 12,500 lbs requires a type rating.
In this case, you will need quite a bit of extra training to fly a 737, pass a practical test to earn a type rating.
§61.31 Type rating requirements, additional training, and authorization requirements.
(a) Type ratings required. A person who acts as a pilot in command of any of the following aircraft must hold a type rating for that aircraft:
(1) Large aircraft (except lighter-than-air).
(2) Turbojet-powered airplanes.
(3) Other aircraft specified by the Administrator through aircraft type certificate procedures.
Large aircraft means aircraft of more than 12,500 pounds, maximum certificated takeoff weight.
Part 1.1: Large aircraft means aircraft of more than 12,500 pounds, maximum certificated takeoff weight.
answered 8 hours ago
wbeard52wbeard52
6,72432156
$endgroup$
1
$begingroup$
Also, I doubt that you could legally fly a 737 with just a single pilot.
$endgroup$
– jamesqf
8 hours ago
1
$begingroup$
ATP also requires type ratings.
$endgroup$
– wbeard52
8 hours ago
2
$begingroup$
@JonathanIrons IFR doesn’t require two pilots. The operation or aircraft may require two pilots.
$endgroup$
– wbeard52
8 hours ago
2
$begingroup$
@wbeard52 I'm not sure what you mean, but I don't think there any requirement to have a type rating in order to get an ATP. You can get a single-engine ATP in a light single if you really want to.
$endgroup$
– Pondlife
7 hours ago
1
$begingroup$
Type ratings are tested to ATP standards, so if you have the hours, you might as well pick up your ATP while you're at it.
$endgroup$
– StephenS
7 hours ago
|
show 3 more comments
$begingroup$
You would most certainly need a type rating to fly a 737. Any turbine powered airplane or aircraft gross weight greater than 12,500 lbs requires a type rating.
In this case, you will need quite a bit of extra training to fly a 737, pass a practical test to earn a type rating.
§61.31 Type rating requirements, additional training, and authorization requirements.
(a) Type ratings required. A person who acts as a pilot in command of any of the following aircraft must hold a type rating for that aircraft:
(1) Large aircraft (except lighter-than-air).
(2) Turbojet-powered airplanes.
(3) Other aircraft specified by the Administrator through aircraft type certificate procedures.
Large aircraft means aircraft of more than 12,500 pounds, maximum certificated takeoff weight.
Part 1.1: Large aircraft means aircraft of more than 12,500 pounds, maximum certificated takeoff weight.
answered 8 hours ago
wbeard52wbeard52
6,72432156
$endgroup$
You would most certainly need a type rating to fly a 737. Any turbine powered airplane or aircraft gross weight greater than 12,500 lbs requires a type rating.
In this case, you will need quite a bit of extra training to fly a 737, pass a practical test to earn a type rating.
§61.31 Type rating requirements, additional training, and authorization requirements.
(a) Type ratings required. A person who acts as a pilot in command of any of the following aircraft must hold a type rating for that aircraft:
(1) Large aircraft (except lighter-than-air).
(2) Turbojet-powered airplanes.
(3) Other aircraft specified by the Administrator through aircraft type certificate procedures.
Large aircraft means aircraft of more than 12,500 pounds, maximum certificated takeoff weight.
Part 1.1: Large aircraft means aircraft of more than 12,500 pounds, maximum certificated takeoff weight.
answered 8 hours ago
wbeard52wbeard52
6,72432156
answered 8 hours ago
wbeard52wbeard52
6,72432156
answered 8 hours ago
wbeard52wbeard52
6,72432156
answered 8 hours ago
wbeard52wbeard52
6,72432156
6,72432156
1
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Also, I doubt that you could legally fly a 737 with just a single pilot.
$endgroup$
– jamesqf
8 hours ago
1
$begingroup$
ATP also requires type ratings.
$endgroup$
– wbeard52
8 hours ago
2
$begingroup$
@JonathanIrons IFR doesn’t require two pilots. The operation or aircraft may require two pilots.
$endgroup$
– wbeard52
8 hours ago
2
$begingroup$
@wbeard52 I'm not sure what you mean, but I don't think there any requirement to have a type rating in order to get an ATP. You can get a single-engine ATP in a light single if you really want to.
$endgroup$
– Pondlife
7 hours ago
1
$begingroup$
Type ratings are tested to ATP standards, so if you have the hours, you might as well pick up your ATP while you're at it.
$endgroup$
– StephenS
7 hours ago
|
show 3 more comments
1
$begingroup$
Also, I doubt that you could legally fly a 737 with just a single pilot.
$endgroup$
– jamesqf
8 hours ago
1
$begingroup$
ATP also requires type ratings.
$endgroup$
– wbeard52
8 hours ago
2
$begingroup$
@JonathanIrons IFR doesn’t require two pilots. The operation or aircraft may require two pilots.
$endgroup$
– wbeard52
8 hours ago
2
$begingroup$
@wbeard52 I'm not sure what you mean, but I don't think there any requirement to have a type rating in order to get an ATP. You can get a single-engine ATP in a light single if you really want to.
$endgroup$
– Pondlife
7 hours ago
1
$begingroup$
Type ratings are tested to ATP standards, so if you have the hours, you might as well pick up your ATP while you're at it.
$endgroup$
– StephenS
7 hours ago
1
1
$begingroup$
Also, I doubt that you could legally fly a 737 with just a single pilot.
$endgroup$
– jamesqf
8 hours ago
$begingroup$
Also, I doubt that you could legally fly a 737 with just a single pilot.
$endgroup$
– jamesqf
8 hours ago
1
1
$begingroup$
ATP also requires type ratings.
$endgroup$
– wbeard52
8 hours ago
$begingroup$
ATP also requires type ratings.
$endgroup$
– wbeard52
8 hours ago
2
2
$begingroup$
@JonathanIrons IFR doesn’t require two pilots. The operation or aircraft may require two pilots.
$endgroup$
– wbeard52
8 hours ago
$begingroup$
@JonathanIrons IFR doesn’t require two pilots. The operation or aircraft may require two pilots.
$endgroup$
– wbeard52
8 hours ago
2
2
$begingroup$
@wbeard52 I'm not sure what you mean, but I don't think there any requirement to have a type rating in order to get an ATP. You can get a single-engine ATP in a light single if you really want to.
$endgroup$
– Pondlife
7 hours ago
$begingroup$
@wbeard52 I'm not sure what you mean, but I don't think there any requirement to have a type rating in order to get an ATP. You can get a single-engine ATP in a light single if you really want to.
$endgroup$
– Pondlife
7 hours ago
1
1
$begingroup$
Type ratings are tested to ATP standards, so if you have the hours, you might as well pick up your ATP while you're at it.
$endgroup$
– StephenS
7 hours ago
$begingroup$
Type ratings are tested to ATP standards, so if you have the hours, you might as well pick up your ATP while you're at it.
$endgroup$
– StephenS
7 hours ago
|
show 3 more comments
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