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I've looked up a ticket for a connection from Brussels to Den Haag, with a five minute connection in Breda. This connection is suggested by the railway company, is that some kind of commitment that this connection is reachable?
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I've looked up a ticket for a connection from Brussels to Den Haag, with a five minute connection in Breda. This connection is suggested by the railway company, is that some kind of commitment that this connection is reachable?
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You've got some valid answers already, with regard to the feasibility of the 5 minute changeover. But I think it's relevant to note it's not a commitment. If the first train is delayed, the other generally won't wait but leave on the scheduled time.
– AVee
6 hours ago
One thing to note. Both Brussels and The Hague have multiple major stations. That makes quite a difference on answering this. On the other hand, once you reach either Breda or Rotterdam (preferred) there are many options to get to Den Haag. All assuming decent times so say 6am to 11pm on weekdays and a bit less flexible on weekends.
– Paul Palmpje
4 hours ago
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I've looked up a ticket for a connection from Brussels to Den Haag, with a five minute connection in Breda. This connection is suggested by the railway company, is that some kind of commitment that this connection is reachable?
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I've looked up a ticket for a connection from Brussels to Den Haag, with a five minute connection in Breda. This connection is suggested by the railway company, is that some kind of commitment that this connection is reachable?
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You've got some valid answers already, with regard to the feasibility of the 5 minute changeover. But I think it's relevant to note it's not a commitment. If the first train is delayed, the other generally won't wait but leave on the scheduled time.
– AVee
6 hours ago
One thing to note. Both Brussels and The Hague have multiple major stations. That makes quite a difference on answering this. On the other hand, once you reach either Breda or Rotterdam (preferred) there are many options to get to Den Haag. All assuming decent times so say 6am to 11pm on weekdays and a bit less flexible on weekends.
– Paul Palmpje
4 hours ago
add a comment |
1
You've got some valid answers already, with regard to the feasibility of the 5 minute changeover. But I think it's relevant to note it's not a commitment. If the first train is delayed, the other generally won't wait but leave on the scheduled time.
– AVee
6 hours ago
One thing to note. Both Brussels and The Hague have multiple major stations. That makes quite a difference on answering this. On the other hand, once you reach either Breda or Rotterdam (preferred) there are many options to get to Den Haag. All assuming decent times so say 6am to 11pm on weekdays and a bit less flexible on weekends.
– Paul Palmpje
4 hours ago
1
1
You've got some valid answers already, with regard to the feasibility of the 5 minute changeover. But I think it's relevant to note it's not a commitment. If the first train is delayed, the other generally won't wait but leave on the scheduled time.
– AVee
6 hours ago
You've got some valid answers already, with regard to the feasibility of the 5 minute changeover. But I think it's relevant to note it's not a commitment. If the first train is delayed, the other generally won't wait but leave on the scheduled time.
– AVee
6 hours ago
One thing to note. Both Brussels and The Hague have multiple major stations. That makes quite a difference on answering this. On the other hand, once you reach either Breda or Rotterdam (preferred) there are many options to get to Den Haag. All assuming decent times so say 6am to 11pm on weekdays and a bit less flexible on weekends.
– Paul Palmpje
4 hours ago
One thing to note. Both Brussels and The Hague have multiple major stations. That makes quite a difference on answering this. On the other hand, once you reach either Breda or Rotterdam (preferred) there are many options to get to Den Haag. All assuming decent times so say 6am to 11pm on weekdays and a bit less flexible on weekends.
– Paul Palmpje
4 hours ago
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When you have a train ticket this is a commitment by the railways to get you to your destination.
In your case your ticket is for Brussels to Den Haag so to Den haag the railways must get you.
But it doesn’t have to be with the trains you originally intended to use. The fact that you change in Breda tells me you have a ticket for the IC train. That ticket is valid for a whole day on all trains on the Brussel - Breda - Den Haag route.
That means you can also take one of the direct trains. Or you can choose to transfer in Rotterdam in stead. Staying on the train till Rotterdam and changing there has some advantages. There are like 8 trains per hour from Rotterdam to Den Haag, so if you miss one you do not have to wait long for the next one...
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Breda is already in the Netherlands and the most common method for this kind of tight connections is that one train comes in, stops on one side of a platform, then the other train comes in on the other side of the same platform, stays for a few minutes, so every body gets out and in, last in train leaves first, first train in leaves last.
So while the connection is about 5 minutes, it is not rushed, as you only have to cross the platform. If you give more details I can look up the details. (Or you can look them up yourself. On the Dutch railways planner, here in English.)
In the Netherlands, platforms are given for each train, as part of the normal train table information. Rarely the station has to announce changes but as a rule the trains leave from the platforms as announced.
Even when you have to change to one of the other platforms, 5 minutes is the norm rather than short. There are stairs on both ends of the platforms and only 3 (double sided, so 6 numbers) of them.
And as a rule these trains run every 30 minutes, often with an alternate connection in between for busy routes, you will not run much risk unless you have an ongoing connection to a different kind of transport that is running less often.
Not sure if it's still the case, but there used to be one of these connections at Leiden going to Schiphol where the trains were in the same platform but one in front of the other (e.g. 9a and 9b) and it was a mad rush with no guarantee of success if you sat at the wrong end of the train and had to walk the whole length of it. Another easier variation is when a second train couples into your train to continue the journey together.
– Eric
7 hours ago
This is not the case for this connection in Breda. The train to Den Haag does not depart from the same platform as the arriving train from Brussels.
– Tor-Einar Jarnbjo
7 hours ago
@Eric That now only happens in Leiden if you want to change from the local train (Sprinter) to the express train (Intercity); but the local train arrives a few minutes ahead of the express train; furthermore, the train to Schiphol stops for several minutes. You have more than enough time to make the connection.
– Abigail
1 hour ago
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It is doable, but quite tight, especially if you have a lot of luggage.
The train from Brussels will usually arrive in Breda on track 5 and the train to Den Haag will depart from track 7, which is a different platform. You will either have to take the stairs or the elevator down to a connecting corridor and then up again to reach the correct platform. Especially if you prefer to use the elevator, it is not unlikely that you will queue up with other passengers and not have time to catch the next train.
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When you have a train ticket this is a commitment by the railways to get you to your destination.
In your case your ticket is for Brussels to Den Haag so to Den haag the railways must get you.
But it doesn’t have to be with the trains you originally intended to use. The fact that you change in Breda tells me you have a ticket for the IC train. That ticket is valid for a whole day on all trains on the Brussel - Breda - Den Haag route.
That means you can also take one of the direct trains. Or you can choose to transfer in Rotterdam in stead. Staying on the train till Rotterdam and changing there has some advantages. There are like 8 trains per hour from Rotterdam to Den Haag, so if you miss one you do not have to wait long for the next one...
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When you have a train ticket this is a commitment by the railways to get you to your destination.
In your case your ticket is for Brussels to Den Haag so to Den haag the railways must get you.
But it doesn’t have to be with the trains you originally intended to use. The fact that you change in Breda tells me you have a ticket for the IC train. That ticket is valid for a whole day on all trains on the Brussel - Breda - Den Haag route.
That means you can also take one of the direct trains. Or you can choose to transfer in Rotterdam in stead. Staying on the train till Rotterdam and changing there has some advantages. There are like 8 trains per hour from Rotterdam to Den Haag, so if you miss one you do not have to wait long for the next one...
add a comment |
When you have a train ticket this is a commitment by the railways to get you to your destination.
In your case your ticket is for Brussels to Den Haag so to Den haag the railways must get you.
But it doesn’t have to be with the trains you originally intended to use. The fact that you change in Breda tells me you have a ticket for the IC train. That ticket is valid for a whole day on all trains on the Brussel - Breda - Den Haag route.
That means you can also take one of the direct trains. Or you can choose to transfer in Rotterdam in stead. Staying on the train till Rotterdam and changing there has some advantages. There are like 8 trains per hour from Rotterdam to Den Haag, so if you miss one you do not have to wait long for the next one...
When you have a train ticket this is a commitment by the railways to get you to your destination.
In your case your ticket is for Brussels to Den Haag so to Den haag the railways must get you.
But it doesn’t have to be with the trains you originally intended to use. The fact that you change in Breda tells me you have a ticket for the IC train. That ticket is valid for a whole day on all trains on the Brussel - Breda - Den Haag route.
That means you can also take one of the direct trains. Or you can choose to transfer in Rotterdam in stead. Staying on the train till Rotterdam and changing there has some advantages. There are like 8 trains per hour from Rotterdam to Den Haag, so if you miss one you do not have to wait long for the next one...
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Breda is already in the Netherlands and the most common method for this kind of tight connections is that one train comes in, stops on one side of a platform, then the other train comes in on the other side of the same platform, stays for a few minutes, so every body gets out and in, last in train leaves first, first train in leaves last.
So while the connection is about 5 minutes, it is not rushed, as you only have to cross the platform. If you give more details I can look up the details. (Or you can look them up yourself. On the Dutch railways planner, here in English.)
In the Netherlands, platforms are given for each train, as part of the normal train table information. Rarely the station has to announce changes but as a rule the trains leave from the platforms as announced.
Even when you have to change to one of the other platforms, 5 minutes is the norm rather than short. There are stairs on both ends of the platforms and only 3 (double sided, so 6 numbers) of them.
And as a rule these trains run every 30 minutes, often with an alternate connection in between for busy routes, you will not run much risk unless you have an ongoing connection to a different kind of transport that is running less often.
Not sure if it's still the case, but there used to be one of these connections at Leiden going to Schiphol where the trains were in the same platform but one in front of the other (e.g. 9a and 9b) and it was a mad rush with no guarantee of success if you sat at the wrong end of the train and had to walk the whole length of it. Another easier variation is when a second train couples into your train to continue the journey together.
– Eric
7 hours ago
This is not the case for this connection in Breda. The train to Den Haag does not depart from the same platform as the arriving train from Brussels.
– Tor-Einar Jarnbjo
7 hours ago
@Eric That now only happens in Leiden if you want to change from the local train (Sprinter) to the express train (Intercity); but the local train arrives a few minutes ahead of the express train; furthermore, the train to Schiphol stops for several minutes. You have more than enough time to make the connection.
– Abigail
1 hour ago
add a comment |
Breda is already in the Netherlands and the most common method for this kind of tight connections is that one train comes in, stops on one side of a platform, then the other train comes in on the other side of the same platform, stays for a few minutes, so every body gets out and in, last in train leaves first, first train in leaves last.
So while the connection is about 5 minutes, it is not rushed, as you only have to cross the platform. If you give more details I can look up the details. (Or you can look them up yourself. On the Dutch railways planner, here in English.)
In the Netherlands, platforms are given for each train, as part of the normal train table information. Rarely the station has to announce changes but as a rule the trains leave from the platforms as announced.
Even when you have to change to one of the other platforms, 5 minutes is the norm rather than short. There are stairs on both ends of the platforms and only 3 (double sided, so 6 numbers) of them.
And as a rule these trains run every 30 minutes, often with an alternate connection in between for busy routes, you will not run much risk unless you have an ongoing connection to a different kind of transport that is running less often.
Not sure if it's still the case, but there used to be one of these connections at Leiden going to Schiphol where the trains were in the same platform but one in front of the other (e.g. 9a and 9b) and it was a mad rush with no guarantee of success if you sat at the wrong end of the train and had to walk the whole length of it. Another easier variation is when a second train couples into your train to continue the journey together.
– Eric
7 hours ago
This is not the case for this connection in Breda. The train to Den Haag does not depart from the same platform as the arriving train from Brussels.
– Tor-Einar Jarnbjo
7 hours ago
@Eric That now only happens in Leiden if you want to change from the local train (Sprinter) to the express train (Intercity); but the local train arrives a few minutes ahead of the express train; furthermore, the train to Schiphol stops for several minutes. You have more than enough time to make the connection.
– Abigail
1 hour ago
add a comment |
Breda is already in the Netherlands and the most common method for this kind of tight connections is that one train comes in, stops on one side of a platform, then the other train comes in on the other side of the same platform, stays for a few minutes, so every body gets out and in, last in train leaves first, first train in leaves last.
So while the connection is about 5 minutes, it is not rushed, as you only have to cross the platform. If you give more details I can look up the details. (Or you can look them up yourself. On the Dutch railways planner, here in English.)
In the Netherlands, platforms are given for each train, as part of the normal train table information. Rarely the station has to announce changes but as a rule the trains leave from the platforms as announced.
Even when you have to change to one of the other platforms, 5 minutes is the norm rather than short. There are stairs on both ends of the platforms and only 3 (double sided, so 6 numbers) of them.
And as a rule these trains run every 30 minutes, often with an alternate connection in between for busy routes, you will not run much risk unless you have an ongoing connection to a different kind of transport that is running less often.
Breda is already in the Netherlands and the most common method for this kind of tight connections is that one train comes in, stops on one side of a platform, then the other train comes in on the other side of the same platform, stays for a few minutes, so every body gets out and in, last in train leaves first, first train in leaves last.
So while the connection is about 5 minutes, it is not rushed, as you only have to cross the platform. If you give more details I can look up the details. (Or you can look them up yourself. On the Dutch railways planner, here in English.)
In the Netherlands, platforms are given for each train, as part of the normal train table information. Rarely the station has to announce changes but as a rule the trains leave from the platforms as announced.
Even when you have to change to one of the other platforms, 5 minutes is the norm rather than short. There are stairs on both ends of the platforms and only 3 (double sided, so 6 numbers) of them.
And as a rule these trains run every 30 minutes, often with an alternate connection in between for busy routes, you will not run much risk unless you have an ongoing connection to a different kind of transport that is running less often.
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Not sure if it's still the case, but there used to be one of these connections at Leiden going to Schiphol where the trains were in the same platform but one in front of the other (e.g. 9a and 9b) and it was a mad rush with no guarantee of success if you sat at the wrong end of the train and had to walk the whole length of it. Another easier variation is when a second train couples into your train to continue the journey together.
– Eric
7 hours ago
This is not the case for this connection in Breda. The train to Den Haag does not depart from the same platform as the arriving train from Brussels.
– Tor-Einar Jarnbjo
7 hours ago
@Eric That now only happens in Leiden if you want to change from the local train (Sprinter) to the express train (Intercity); but the local train arrives a few minutes ahead of the express train; furthermore, the train to Schiphol stops for several minutes. You have more than enough time to make the connection.
– Abigail
1 hour ago
add a comment |
Not sure if it's still the case, but there used to be one of these connections at Leiden going to Schiphol where the trains were in the same platform but one in front of the other (e.g. 9a and 9b) and it was a mad rush with no guarantee of success if you sat at the wrong end of the train and had to walk the whole length of it. Another easier variation is when a second train couples into your train to continue the journey together.
– Eric
7 hours ago
This is not the case for this connection in Breda. The train to Den Haag does not depart from the same platform as the arriving train from Brussels.
– Tor-Einar Jarnbjo
7 hours ago
@Eric That now only happens in Leiden if you want to change from the local train (Sprinter) to the express train (Intercity); but the local train arrives a few minutes ahead of the express train; furthermore, the train to Schiphol stops for several minutes. You have more than enough time to make the connection.
– Abigail
1 hour ago
Not sure if it's still the case, but there used to be one of these connections at Leiden going to Schiphol where the trains were in the same platform but one in front of the other (e.g. 9a and 9b) and it was a mad rush with no guarantee of success if you sat at the wrong end of the train and had to walk the whole length of it. Another easier variation is when a second train couples into your train to continue the journey together.
– Eric
7 hours ago
Not sure if it's still the case, but there used to be one of these connections at Leiden going to Schiphol where the trains were in the same platform but one in front of the other (e.g. 9a and 9b) and it was a mad rush with no guarantee of success if you sat at the wrong end of the train and had to walk the whole length of it. Another easier variation is when a second train couples into your train to continue the journey together.
– Eric
7 hours ago
This is not the case for this connection in Breda. The train to Den Haag does not depart from the same platform as the arriving train from Brussels.
– Tor-Einar Jarnbjo
7 hours ago
This is not the case for this connection in Breda. The train to Den Haag does not depart from the same platform as the arriving train from Brussels.
– Tor-Einar Jarnbjo
7 hours ago
@Eric That now only happens in Leiden if you want to change from the local train (Sprinter) to the express train (Intercity); but the local train arrives a few minutes ahead of the express train; furthermore, the train to Schiphol stops for several minutes. You have more than enough time to make the connection.
– Abigail
1 hour ago
@Eric That now only happens in Leiden if you want to change from the local train (Sprinter) to the express train (Intercity); but the local train arrives a few minutes ahead of the express train; furthermore, the train to Schiphol stops for several minutes. You have more than enough time to make the connection.
– Abigail
1 hour ago
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It is doable, but quite tight, especially if you have a lot of luggage.
The train from Brussels will usually arrive in Breda on track 5 and the train to Den Haag will depart from track 7, which is a different platform. You will either have to take the stairs or the elevator down to a connecting corridor and then up again to reach the correct platform. Especially if you prefer to use the elevator, it is not unlikely that you will queue up with other passengers and not have time to catch the next train.
add a comment |
It is doable, but quite tight, especially if you have a lot of luggage.
The train from Brussels will usually arrive in Breda on track 5 and the train to Den Haag will depart from track 7, which is a different platform. You will either have to take the stairs or the elevator down to a connecting corridor and then up again to reach the correct platform. Especially if you prefer to use the elevator, it is not unlikely that you will queue up with other passengers and not have time to catch the next train.
add a comment |
It is doable, but quite tight, especially if you have a lot of luggage.
The train from Brussels will usually arrive in Breda on track 5 and the train to Den Haag will depart from track 7, which is a different platform. You will either have to take the stairs or the elevator down to a connecting corridor and then up again to reach the correct platform. Especially if you prefer to use the elevator, it is not unlikely that you will queue up with other passengers and not have time to catch the next train.
It is doable, but quite tight, especially if you have a lot of luggage.
The train from Brussels will usually arrive in Breda on track 5 and the train to Den Haag will depart from track 7, which is a different platform. You will either have to take the stairs or the elevator down to a connecting corridor and then up again to reach the correct platform. Especially if you prefer to use the elevator, it is not unlikely that you will queue up with other passengers and not have time to catch the next train.
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You've got some valid answers already, with regard to the feasibility of the 5 minute changeover. But I think it's relevant to note it's not a commitment. If the first train is delayed, the other generally won't wait but leave on the scheduled time.
– AVee
6 hours ago
One thing to note. Both Brussels and The Hague have multiple major stations. That makes quite a difference on answering this. On the other hand, once you reach either Breda or Rotterdam (preferred) there are many options to get to Den Haag. All assuming decent times so say 6am to 11pm on weekdays and a bit less flexible on weekends.
– Paul Palmpje
4 hours ago