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I know that there is a tax advantage to having a child on December 31st at 11:59 as opposed to January 1st at 12:01. Does the same hold true for marriage? If it matters I make ~$130,000/yr and have a rental property and a home, and my girlfriend is in school so is making -$40,000/yr and has effectively no assets.
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I know that there is a tax advantage to having a child on December 31st at 11:59 as opposed to January 1st at 12:01. Does the same hold true for marriage? If it matters I make ~$130,000/yr and have a rental property and a home, and my girlfriend is in school so is making -$40,000/yr and has effectively no assets.
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Do you mean she is making-$40k
as in has expenditure of $40k? Or~$40k
as in earning roughly 40k?
– perennial_noob
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@perennial_noob or has school loans of $40K?
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I know that there is a tax advantage to having a child on December 31st at 11:59 as opposed to January 1st at 12:01. Does the same hold true for marriage? If it matters I make ~$130,000/yr and have a rental property and a home, and my girlfriend is in school so is making -$40,000/yr and has effectively no assets.
united-states taxes
I know that there is a tax advantage to having a child on December 31st at 11:59 as opposed to January 1st at 12:01. Does the same hold true for marriage? If it matters I make ~$130,000/yr and have a rental property and a home, and my girlfriend is in school so is making -$40,000/yr and has effectively no assets.
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Do you mean she is making-$40k
as in has expenditure of $40k? Or~$40k
as in earning roughly 40k?
– perennial_noob
10 hours ago
@perennial_noob or has school loans of $40K?
– RonJohn
8 hours ago
add a comment |
Do you mean she is making-$40k
as in has expenditure of $40k? Or~$40k
as in earning roughly 40k?
– perennial_noob
10 hours ago
@perennial_noob or has school loans of $40K?
– RonJohn
8 hours ago
Do you mean she is making
-$40k
as in has expenditure of $40k? Or ~$40k
as in earning roughly 40k?– perennial_noob
10 hours ago
Do you mean she is making
-$40k
as in has expenditure of $40k? Or ~$40k
as in earning roughly 40k?– perennial_noob
10 hours ago
@perennial_noob or has school loans of $40K?
– RonJohn
8 hours ago
@perennial_noob or has school loans of $40K?
– RonJohn
8 hours ago
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Generally there are tax benefits from filing as a married couple, specifically if one spouse has a very different salary. It can pull you into a lower tax bracket overall since everything (brackets, deductions, etc.) is roughly doubled, so one spouse gets the benefit of any "unused" margin that the other would not get to use as an individual.
That said...
To butcher JoeTaxpayer's catchphrase - "Don't let the tax tail wag the marriage dog". Marriage is a serious institution (at least it is for me). Don't rush into it just to get a little bit of a tax break.
2
Marriage doubles many tax benefits on the way in and halves EVERYTHING on the way out :->O
– Bob Baerker
10 hours ago
8
Pretty sure choosing Dec 31 isn't rushing things any more than choosing Jan 1 :)
– chepner
10 hours ago
My wife and I got married two months "early" just for health insurance reasons.
– stannius
9 hours ago
7
My suggestion is to wait until Jan 9th+ since the New Years Eve timing makes everything wedding-related more expensive! Saving ~$20k on wedding plans can easily outweigh any $5k tax advantages.
– JasonInVegas
9 hours ago
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It's easy to get a rough but practical answer for this yourself. As an exercise, do your taxes now, estimating income or other factors through the end of the year, as if you were both single. Then do the same, but married filing jointly. Compare the results.
I was married last year (for the 2nd time) and did this comparison "for fun" (it didn't impact our choice of date - I was just curious about the difference). We ended up with an advantage of owing roughly 4% of our AGI less than if we had not been married and had filed individually. That's a significant amount of money! Of course, your mileage may vary, but since filing status is determined based on your standing as of December 31, and marriage generally results in a tax benefit, getting married on the 31st means you can file as married for that tax year and take advantage of those benefits, for the entire tax year.
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Certainly run the numbers both ways to get a rough idea. Would you hit the SALT limit of $10K on your own? If yes my guess is that you're better off not being married this year since you'll be able to itemize, but maybe not once you're married due to the SALT limit staying at $10K for both single or married.
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Generally there are tax benefits from filing as a married couple, specifically if one spouse has a very different salary. It can pull you into a lower tax bracket overall since everything (brackets, deductions, etc.) is roughly doubled, so one spouse gets the benefit of any "unused" margin that the other would not get to use as an individual.
That said...
To butcher JoeTaxpayer's catchphrase - "Don't let the tax tail wag the marriage dog". Marriage is a serious institution (at least it is for me). Don't rush into it just to get a little bit of a tax break.
2
Marriage doubles many tax benefits on the way in and halves EVERYTHING on the way out :->O
– Bob Baerker
10 hours ago
8
Pretty sure choosing Dec 31 isn't rushing things any more than choosing Jan 1 :)
– chepner
10 hours ago
My wife and I got married two months "early" just for health insurance reasons.
– stannius
9 hours ago
7
My suggestion is to wait until Jan 9th+ since the New Years Eve timing makes everything wedding-related more expensive! Saving ~$20k on wedding plans can easily outweigh any $5k tax advantages.
– JasonInVegas
9 hours ago
add a comment |
Generally there are tax benefits from filing as a married couple, specifically if one spouse has a very different salary. It can pull you into a lower tax bracket overall since everything (brackets, deductions, etc.) is roughly doubled, so one spouse gets the benefit of any "unused" margin that the other would not get to use as an individual.
That said...
To butcher JoeTaxpayer's catchphrase - "Don't let the tax tail wag the marriage dog". Marriage is a serious institution (at least it is for me). Don't rush into it just to get a little bit of a tax break.
2
Marriage doubles many tax benefits on the way in and halves EVERYTHING on the way out :->O
– Bob Baerker
10 hours ago
8
Pretty sure choosing Dec 31 isn't rushing things any more than choosing Jan 1 :)
– chepner
10 hours ago
My wife and I got married two months "early" just for health insurance reasons.
– stannius
9 hours ago
7
My suggestion is to wait until Jan 9th+ since the New Years Eve timing makes everything wedding-related more expensive! Saving ~$20k on wedding plans can easily outweigh any $5k tax advantages.
– JasonInVegas
9 hours ago
add a comment |
Generally there are tax benefits from filing as a married couple, specifically if one spouse has a very different salary. It can pull you into a lower tax bracket overall since everything (brackets, deductions, etc.) is roughly doubled, so one spouse gets the benefit of any "unused" margin that the other would not get to use as an individual.
That said...
To butcher JoeTaxpayer's catchphrase - "Don't let the tax tail wag the marriage dog". Marriage is a serious institution (at least it is for me). Don't rush into it just to get a little bit of a tax break.
Generally there are tax benefits from filing as a married couple, specifically if one spouse has a very different salary. It can pull you into a lower tax bracket overall since everything (brackets, deductions, etc.) is roughly doubled, so one spouse gets the benefit of any "unused" margin that the other would not get to use as an individual.
That said...
To butcher JoeTaxpayer's catchphrase - "Don't let the tax tail wag the marriage dog". Marriage is a serious institution (at least it is for me). Don't rush into it just to get a little bit of a tax break.
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Marriage doubles many tax benefits on the way in and halves EVERYTHING on the way out :->O
– Bob Baerker
10 hours ago
8
Pretty sure choosing Dec 31 isn't rushing things any more than choosing Jan 1 :)
– chepner
10 hours ago
My wife and I got married two months "early" just for health insurance reasons.
– stannius
9 hours ago
7
My suggestion is to wait until Jan 9th+ since the New Years Eve timing makes everything wedding-related more expensive! Saving ~$20k on wedding plans can easily outweigh any $5k tax advantages.
– JasonInVegas
9 hours ago
add a comment |
2
Marriage doubles many tax benefits on the way in and halves EVERYTHING on the way out :->O
– Bob Baerker
10 hours ago
8
Pretty sure choosing Dec 31 isn't rushing things any more than choosing Jan 1 :)
– chepner
10 hours ago
My wife and I got married two months "early" just for health insurance reasons.
– stannius
9 hours ago
7
My suggestion is to wait until Jan 9th+ since the New Years Eve timing makes everything wedding-related more expensive! Saving ~$20k on wedding plans can easily outweigh any $5k tax advantages.
– JasonInVegas
9 hours ago
2
2
Marriage doubles many tax benefits on the way in and halves EVERYTHING on the way out :->O
– Bob Baerker
10 hours ago
Marriage doubles many tax benefits on the way in and halves EVERYTHING on the way out :->O
– Bob Baerker
10 hours ago
8
8
Pretty sure choosing Dec 31 isn't rushing things any more than choosing Jan 1 :)
– chepner
10 hours ago
Pretty sure choosing Dec 31 isn't rushing things any more than choosing Jan 1 :)
– chepner
10 hours ago
My wife and I got married two months "early" just for health insurance reasons.
– stannius
9 hours ago
My wife and I got married two months "early" just for health insurance reasons.
– stannius
9 hours ago
7
7
My suggestion is to wait until Jan 9th+ since the New Years Eve timing makes everything wedding-related more expensive! Saving ~$20k on wedding plans can easily outweigh any $5k tax advantages.
– JasonInVegas
9 hours ago
My suggestion is to wait until Jan 9th+ since the New Years Eve timing makes everything wedding-related more expensive! Saving ~$20k on wedding plans can easily outweigh any $5k tax advantages.
– JasonInVegas
9 hours ago
add a comment |
It's easy to get a rough but practical answer for this yourself. As an exercise, do your taxes now, estimating income or other factors through the end of the year, as if you were both single. Then do the same, but married filing jointly. Compare the results.
I was married last year (for the 2nd time) and did this comparison "for fun" (it didn't impact our choice of date - I was just curious about the difference). We ended up with an advantage of owing roughly 4% of our AGI less than if we had not been married and had filed individually. That's a significant amount of money! Of course, your mileage may vary, but since filing status is determined based on your standing as of December 31, and marriage generally results in a tax benefit, getting married on the 31st means you can file as married for that tax year and take advantage of those benefits, for the entire tax year.
add a comment |
It's easy to get a rough but practical answer for this yourself. As an exercise, do your taxes now, estimating income or other factors through the end of the year, as if you were both single. Then do the same, but married filing jointly. Compare the results.
I was married last year (for the 2nd time) and did this comparison "for fun" (it didn't impact our choice of date - I was just curious about the difference). We ended up with an advantage of owing roughly 4% of our AGI less than if we had not been married and had filed individually. That's a significant amount of money! Of course, your mileage may vary, but since filing status is determined based on your standing as of December 31, and marriage generally results in a tax benefit, getting married on the 31st means you can file as married for that tax year and take advantage of those benefits, for the entire tax year.
add a comment |
It's easy to get a rough but practical answer for this yourself. As an exercise, do your taxes now, estimating income or other factors through the end of the year, as if you were both single. Then do the same, but married filing jointly. Compare the results.
I was married last year (for the 2nd time) and did this comparison "for fun" (it didn't impact our choice of date - I was just curious about the difference). We ended up with an advantage of owing roughly 4% of our AGI less than if we had not been married and had filed individually. That's a significant amount of money! Of course, your mileage may vary, but since filing status is determined based on your standing as of December 31, and marriage generally results in a tax benefit, getting married on the 31st means you can file as married for that tax year and take advantage of those benefits, for the entire tax year.
It's easy to get a rough but practical answer for this yourself. As an exercise, do your taxes now, estimating income or other factors through the end of the year, as if you were both single. Then do the same, but married filing jointly. Compare the results.
I was married last year (for the 2nd time) and did this comparison "for fun" (it didn't impact our choice of date - I was just curious about the difference). We ended up with an advantage of owing roughly 4% of our AGI less than if we had not been married and had filed individually. That's a significant amount of money! Of course, your mileage may vary, but since filing status is determined based on your standing as of December 31, and marriage generally results in a tax benefit, getting married on the 31st means you can file as married for that tax year and take advantage of those benefits, for the entire tax year.
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Certainly run the numbers both ways to get a rough idea. Would you hit the SALT limit of $10K on your own? If yes my guess is that you're better off not being married this year since you'll be able to itemize, but maybe not once you're married due to the SALT limit staying at $10K for both single or married.
add a comment |
Certainly run the numbers both ways to get a rough idea. Would you hit the SALT limit of $10K on your own? If yes my guess is that you're better off not being married this year since you'll be able to itemize, but maybe not once you're married due to the SALT limit staying at $10K for both single or married.
add a comment |
Certainly run the numbers both ways to get a rough idea. Would you hit the SALT limit of $10K on your own? If yes my guess is that you're better off not being married this year since you'll be able to itemize, but maybe not once you're married due to the SALT limit staying at $10K for both single or married.
Certainly run the numbers both ways to get a rough idea. Would you hit the SALT limit of $10K on your own? If yes my guess is that you're better off not being married this year since you'll be able to itemize, but maybe not once you're married due to the SALT limit staying at $10K for both single or married.
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Do you mean she is making
-$40k
as in has expenditure of $40k? Or~$40k
as in earning roughly 40k?– perennial_noob
10 hours ago
@perennial_noob or has school loans of $40K?
– RonJohn
8 hours ago